Hi, my phone the x10i has a problem. A few days ago my phone fell out of bed during charging. The battery fell out, and then i reconnected the cable and inserted the batterry again and fell asleep. the morning after my telephone was 5%..
So i reflashed the firmware and the problem was gone for 2 days..
Now when i connect the telephone it charges till 89% and then it slowly start to drain to 8%.
PS when i shutdown the telephone and connect the power it charges to 100%
What should i do or does someone have the same problems?
Sorry for the bad language but i had to write fast!
when mine charges to 100% it will slowly drain over night, like battery 'forgets' that its on the wire.
PartyVirginX10 said:
when mine charges to 100% it will slowly drain over night, like battery 'forgets' that its on the wire.
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I noticed the same, i think X10 will stop charging when it reaches 100% and will never start charging again unless you unplug the phone and plug it again.
Sometimes when i leave mine on the charger during night, i get about 90%( sometimes even less) at morning.
I also noticed that today,when I unpluged phone,battery was on 91% and when i last checked when it was charging it was on 94%,I think that is some feature to avoid overcharging of the batery and on some way it drains itself to protect battery and phone
Sewez said:
I noticed the same, i think X10 will stop charging when it reaches 100%
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Correct, numerous threads on the subject.
Sewez said:
and will never start charging again unless you unplug the phone and plug it again.
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That's incorrect, it should charge to 100% (mine does), drop charge to what ever level (I've never sat to watch what it drops to), then charges again.
If you install Juice plotter you will be able to track the battery drain behaviour..
The device will charge up to 100% then AC supply is turned off.
Then it will run on battery until it drops to 90%.
... and will charge again to 100%.
(This 100%->90%->100% can occurs several times during one charge. Juice plotter will show you this)
This happens to me during over night charging.
Me too on both my x10i's. I assume this is normal behavior.
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Mine sometime is battery around 50% i plug in to AC and I use the phone while charging but the battery still continue to drain until around 40%, and slowly raise to 100%
pacharru said:
The device will charge up to 100% then AC supply is turned off.
Then it will run on battery until it drops to 90%.
... and will charge again to 100%.
(This 100%->90%->100% can occurs several times during one charge. Juice plotter will show you this)
This happens to me during over night charging.
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Yes, that's correct. In this way your battery life is saved, because it couldn't reach higher temperatures or fall in short circuit.
It's a normal behaviour I've had also in 1.6, don't you?
Baldolo said:
Yes, that's correct. In this way your battery life is saved, because it couldn't reach higher temperatures or fall in short circuit.
It's a normal behaviour I've had also in 1.6, don't you?
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Mine only started this since 2.1
Baldolo said:
Yes, that's correct. In this way your battery life is saved, because it couldn't reach higher temperatures or fall in short circuit.
It's a normal behaviour I've had also in 1.6, don't you?
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Mine did the same in 1.6(i mean it did stop charging at 100%, i never saw it start charging again at 90%)
pacharru said:
The device will charge up to 100% then AC supply is turned off.
Then it will run on battery until it drops to 90%.
... and will charge again to 100%.
(This 100%->90%->100% can occurs several times during one charge. Juice plotter will show you this)
This happens to me during over night charging.
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Same behavior in 1.6 and now on 2.1
got the same prob since 1.6, sometimes i'm watching a video and it is plugged then the battery reaches 80%
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hi
what the recommended method to charge the new battery?
1)charge few hrs till full and drain till 0% and charge again?
2)charge >10hrs?
I used to have N6288, it will auto stop charging when full.
Therefore i tend to charge my hp before i sleep and wake up in the morning to off the charger. So which is like charging for >10hrs.
Since i do not own htc before, so i'm not sure about how they charge.
lets say if battery full till 100%, will it auto stop charging?
i only afraid with my charging pattern (charging while sleeping) will make htc batt spoilt.
any advices?
thx alot
htctc16 said:
hi
what the recommended method to charge the new battery?
1)charge few hrs till full and drain till 0% and charge again?
2)charge >10hrs?
I used to have N6288, it will auto stop charging when full.
Therefore i tend to charge my hp before i sleep and wake up in the morning to off the charger. So which is like charging for >10hrs.
Since i do not own htc before, so i'm not sure about how they charge.
lets say if battery full till 100%, will it auto stop charging?
i only afraid with my charging pattern (charging while sleeping) will make htc batt spoilt.
any advices?
thx alot
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Of course it will stop. Every battery will stop charging when it will be full otherwise it would burn or explode.
erzketis said:
Of course it will stop. Every battery will stop charging when it will be full otherwise it would burn or explode.
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i see..thx
so how long u charge the 1st time?
Before when I bough Tytn II, I charge it over 10 hours and that works well (3~4 days). Recently I bought HTC Touch Cruise09 and I only charge it for 3~5 hours (because the LED turns its color and I just remove the charger). I will see how this battery works.
How to charge a new battery... the solution. ;-)
Hi,
As erzketis says, you have an internal tools wihc switch of your charge.
I'm an electronical technician...
As the charger is a 1Aand the battery is a 1.1 Ah.
In two hour maximum it should be OK.
For me, I went to the sport and 3 hours after, it was OK.
What we usually forget to says is 2 things:
- After the first charge try to use at maximum your battery, let put it close himself (memory effect even if we says taht Lithium has a minus effct, it's a bull****). Try to reperform the same thing 5 times before going on the second tab...
- Avoid to charge you phone when it's not necessary (desactive auto charge when connected on USB). I'll says, wait till 10~0% to charge it. I know it's not prctical, but you'll have a better battery life.
I hope it will help you.
So lately I've noticed that battery life is strange on my Vogue with android. When I let it charge overnight, I take it off the charger and it instantly falls to about 97%. At about 1 PM the battery hits around 30% so I plug it in.
Here's the weird part: it's only charged for a half hour and it's reached 80% according to the meter. After another half hour it will say 100%, and stops charging. If I take it off the charger, it will instantly drop to around 77%, and lower quickly. If it says it is not charging anymore, but I know it is not full, is it really not charging? Can I just leave it on and expect it to continue charging to the real capacity?
Is this just how it is? or is there anything to be done about this? I've tried completely discharging the battery a few times, but didn't really help at all that I could tell.
Curious about everyone else's experiences
Thanks!
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
cbaty08 said:
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
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Trying this now... lol
Would I have to do this every time I want to get a full charge? seems strange. Maybe this woudl explain why it charges overnight - longer period of time the battery can cool down, charge up more, cool down, charge
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
berardi said:
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
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3 hours usually.
gigermunit said:
3 hours usually.
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Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
berardi said:
Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
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well it could be that the age, my phone of 2 years got replaced after the power button snapped off, got another which i lost which got replaced by my most recent.
polyrhythmic said:
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
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Gah, that's too bad.
When I charge overnight, I don't have problems. It's in the middle of the day when it isn't on the charger for too long that I have issues.
Thanks for confirming the weirdness though, at least I won't bother with a new battery (yet)
Hi all.. My Evo Shift 4G seems to have developed a charging issue.. I'm not sure if the phone is not reading the voltage from the battery properly or what.. Basically, my phone will not charge over 85%... In other words -- it never reaches 90%+ on the phone, which would typically cause the charging indicator to change from amber to green.
I've watched what the phone supposedly sees with 'Battery Monitor Widget'. Currently, the phone has been on the AC charger for about 7 hours... The phone reports 77% charged, 32.1 degrees C for the battery, 4024mV. I've watched it during the charge cycles, and when the battery is low, the current is definitely being applied to the battery -- around 500-600 mA. When it gets close to 70%, however, it starts ramping down the current.. Right now, at that 77% level, it is showing 0mA being applied to the charging circuit.
I have 3 batteries -- two HTC original batteries, one about 2 weeks old, the other from March.. I also have a 3rd party battery.. All of the batteries behave the same in MY phone.. If I throw the batteries into a couple of friend's HTC phones (one has a Hero, the other a MyTouch 4G) -- their phones report the charge at 100%.
I also have an external charger -- if I charge the batteries in that fully, my phone shows 85% charge, while my friend's phones will show the batteries at 100%. Likewise, if I put their batteries in my phone once theirs are fully charged, my phone will show it at 85%.
Anyone know how or if I can correct this?
Thanks,
Rick
Have you tried clearing the battery stats and re-calibrating?
Ron Overdrive said:
Have you tried clearing the battery stats and re-calibrating?
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I would suggest you do that.
Your phone would have to be rooted though.
Evo SHIFT
Enraged21 said:
I would suggest you do that.
Your phone would have to be rooted though.
Evo SHIFT
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It is rooted.. I get the same behavior on CM7 or the rooted OTA 2.3 update by x99..
I've tried clearing the battery stats.. That has not worked.. I believe it comes down to a problem with how my phone is reading the voltage of the battery..
Worked for me...
I had the same problem but the it could charge to 93ish% percent, not 85. I fixed by clearing the battery stats, setting the screen to never go off, and left it on overnight (while I'd been using it all day), recharged it to full while it was off the next morning, and unplugged the charger and reinserted it until when I could plug it in starting with the light green. Following, I turned it on while it was still plugged in, downloaded the battery calibration app from the market, and calibrated it.
Afterwards, I've been able to get the same outrageous battery life that others claimed they got on roms like evervolv and miui, and been able to charge to full. See if this works for you.
Have you tried a different charger? Say if you are using the wall try a usb or if using a usb try a wall. Just a suggestion don't know if it'll work.
EDIT: Looks like I need to follow my own rules and read everything fully. Sorry for the ignorant post it'll prob be no help!
FdxRider said:
Have you tried a different charger? Say if you are using the wall try a usb or if using a usb try a wall. Just a suggestion don't know if it'll work.
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I've tried charging via a number of different chargers:
1) HTC AC Charger (5V/1A)
2) Computer USB (5V 500mA)
3) Palm Pre AC Charger (5V/1A)
4) Palm Pre Car Charger (5V/1A)
5) Aftermarket AC Charger (5V/1A)
I think there may be a problem with CWM. I tired the wipe battery stats a few times (7) and it seems like it didn't do anything. Then I downloaded an app from the market called battery calibration, wiped with the app. I think it actually worked with the app, as my run times went from about 8-9hrs to well over 24. Hope this helps - Viperspike
From what i understand, charge to 100%, turn phone off and charge a little more, reboot, wipe batt stats and unplug. Run all the way down to zero (phone shutdown) and restart one more time (it should immediately turn off) Then plug in the charger, and reboot. Once on the charger make sure it charges uninterrupted until it reaches 100% the first charge.
Thats the problem.. I can never get anywhere near 100% -- 85% is the top.. At that point current drops to 0mA and the charging circuit turns off.
I did send a support request to HTC.. This is their response:
You were having issues with the battery life on your HTC EVO Shift 4G. You mention that you have tried another battery but you cannot get the LED indicator light to turn green or the charge percentage to go above 85%. You state that you have tested your two batteries in a friend’s MyTouch 4G and HTC Hero. Both devices show 100% when there is an indication of a full charge. Unfortunately, there might be another hardware related issue causing this to occur so I would suggest you consider a repair request for your Android device.
After my phone had been on the charger all night I pulled it off the charger and noticed my battery immediately went to 98% after I unplugged it. What seemed to correct this for me was I had to turn the phone off let it fully charge then for safe measures I unplugged it and plugged it back in again till it said 100% again. After doing this my phone now fully charges and stays at 100% after I pull it off the charger.
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bkeaver said:
After my phone had been on the charger all night I pulled it off the charger and noticed my battery immediately went to 98% after I unplugged it. What seemed to correct this for me was I had to turn the phone off let it fully charge then for safe measures I unplugged it and plugged it back in again till it said 100% again. After doing this my phone now fully charges and stays at 100% after I pull it off the charger.
Just thought I'd share...
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The reason for this is for battery health. The phone will actually slowly leech a charge down while plugged in once it hits 100% and then recharge. The reason for this is because it's bad to leave a phone at 100% all the time. It's normal for that to happen with phones. Some phones are more accurate with displaying the proper percentage than others.
Thats odd. My phone charged to 100% yesterday and after about 30-40 minutes of rarely any usage it was still at 100
yeah it happens from time to time. But its easy to remedy.
I've noticed that when I leave the phone plugged in overnight it sometimes just seems to stop charging at a random point somewhere throughout the night and I'll wake up with a phone that is only at 80%, 65%, etc.. battery. It isn't fully charging and then just being drained again either, it just randomly stops charging. It will recognize that a charger is plugged in and even says that it is charging but the percentage indicator in the Settings pulldown doesn't move. This doesn't happen every night and it has never happened when I charge the phone during the day. I assume it only happens at night because I'm not at my desk using it. I can also assume that the device isn't taking 8 hours to go from 35% battery to 75%, it doesn't charge that slowly. Any ideas?
P.S Rooted but on stock ROM
Heartbreak said:
I've noticed that when I leave the phone plugged in overnight it sometimes just seems to stop charging at a random point somewhere throughout the night and I'll wake up with a phone that is only at 80%, 65%, etc.. battery. It isn't fully charging and then just being drained again either, it just randomly stops charging. It will recognize that a charger is plugged in and even says that it is charging but the percentage indicator in the Settings pulldown doesn't move. This doesn't happen every night and it has never happened when I charge the phone during the day. I assume it only happens at night because I'm not at my desk using it. I can also assume that the device isn't taking 8 hours to go from 35% battery to 75%, it doesn't charge that slowly. Any ideas?
P.S Rooted but on stock ROM
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Do you have another charger/cable connection you can try?
Stryder5 said:
Do you have another charger/cable connection you can try?
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I'll give it a shot. Thank you.
I tried it with a different cable last night and it did the same thing. Forgot to mention I'm charging it through my computer.
Heartbreak said:
I tried it with a different cable last night and it did the same thing. Forgot to mention I'm charging it through my computer.
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I would try the charging cable that came with it and if it still does the same thing I would say you have a problem with your phone.
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coldfusionb said:
I would try the charging cable that came with it and if it still does the same thing I would say you have a problem with your phone.
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Yeah, I have been using the cable that came with it. I've tried two different ones. I will try to see if it happens when charged through wall outlet.
Sorry for double post. Couldn't figure out how to attach image to an edit.
I looked at my battery settings and this is what I noticed. It looks like my phone is charging all the way up during the evening and then draining but the charging isn't kicking back or something. The huge gap in screen on time was when I was sleeping and there was no use of the device but battery is steadily draining.
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Sorry for double post. Couldn't figure out how to attach image to an edit.
I looked at my battery settings and this is what I noticed. It looks like my phone is charging all the way up during the evening and then draining but the charging isn't kicking back or something. The huge gap in screen on time was when I was sleeping and there was no use of the device but battery is steadily draining.
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Have you tried using the wall charger?
Stryder5 said:
Have you tried using the wall charger?
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As stated in previous post, I have not. That is the plan when I get home.
I have tried it through the wall charger for the past few nights and it charged just fine. I also tried it through the same cable that my N7 and Gnex were charged with and it still happened. I also tried various USB ports. Any ideas?
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Is it possible the computer is sleeping and no longer powering the USB ports?
I had exactly the same problem for one night.
But it can't be a problem with my Notebook because
my Galaxy S charged just fine.
Probably due to power saving options on your computer, be they USB power saving settings or sleep related. If you want to charge faster you should definitely use the wall charger, USB charging is painfully slow for me... if i am using the device, load can exceed the incoming current and the phone will still discharge. Moral of the story > USB charging = useless.
negroplasty said:
Probably due to power saving options on your computer, be they USB power saving settings or sleep related. If you want to charge faster you should definitely use the wall charger, USB charging is painfully slow for me... if i am using the device, load can exceed the incoming current and the phone will still discharge. Moral of the story > USB charging = useless.
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It really isn't a matter of slow charging. I'm charging it overnight so the speed at which it charges doesn't matter to me. As long as it is charged when I wake up. I've been using the same computer to charge my phones/tablets/cameras for two years and I've never had a problem. I'm not even using the device though, it is at night when I'm sleeping.
I have the same problem all of a sudden. Happened twice in the past week, never happened for months before. I never charge from a computer, always with the provided adapter and cable from the wall. A few hours into the night, before the phone is at 100% (varies from 70-90%), it just stops charging. Battery graph looks very similar to the one in this thread already posted.
I wonder which device switches the current off, the phone, or the wall adapter. I would have guessed the phone, and if that is correct swapping the wall adapter won't do anything.
Or you can use Fast Charge from Google Play and flash Franco Kernel.
Then you'll be able to switch from USB Charge to AC Charge by charging with your computer.
However, the battery will heat and you may consume its life, so do not do that too often, only when necessary if you expect using your phone very long times as i do, i just change phone every 5 years or more, depending of my needs.
Also, i noticed than USB Charging slowing down the charge at around 80%, but still charging, i read with Battery Monitor Widget, and i seen it will gives minus ampere.
I almost forgot, you may also calibrate your battery, the first time, charge it to 100%, then remove the file "batterystats.bin" from /data/system or wipe it threw Recovery, that will ensure you to use your battery to 100% next time.
Mine seems to stop charging at 100% and go back down also. Mine usually is between 95-100% when I wake up though. Is that just how this phone works to protect the battery? I've never noticed this in any other phone I've had.