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The HTCANDROID project! Let's get it running!

Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).

you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.

Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?

You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.

I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!

I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.

Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena

WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!

If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .

HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC

Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!

he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.

just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?

hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.

crescentsaber said:
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot

For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet

Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/

doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead

Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??

Android or moblin for TG01?

Hi, I'm thinking of how to port android or linux system to TG01, I do think it's possible, but not sure since I've never port android or moblin before.
Here are some of my thoughts:
First, a dual boot software might be used to ensure TG01 won't brick in case of port failure.
Then, can we dump the rom of Nexous one?
Furthermore, is it possbile to use the rom of winmo drives for android system?
Guys interested or skilled in android or linux system or , make contribution please!

The start to both (though it think that you were thinking of MeeGo not Moblin, which was x86 only) is a working Linux kernel.
HaRET is the tool to start the work on a working kernel, and a working kernel is what we need before we even start worrying about a dual boot bootloader.
Dumping Nexus One might help, but I believe it's not the right way. XDAndroid might be a nice starting point for the Android ecosystem, but not necessarily for the kernel. Otherwise I believe that there are some people that work on the HTC HD2, which is a Snapdragon device as well (though there are some differences (e.g. the TG01 has less Ram and most likely different WiFi, bluetooth, accelerometer or whatever chips)).
(I would like to help, but I am no programmer and not experienced with kernel stuff, but I could help with setting up a wiki and trying out stuff)

Please please please have a go. I can't help with anything except a small donation, as the reason I'm going to buy a TG01 is purely because I can't afford an HTC phone at the moment. I was really happy to see a section on the TG1 on here, which was the other reason I decided to go non-HTC.

Thanks to all of you. I can't accept any donation now.
Is there anybody want to set up such a project to port android on TG01?

I already wrote about this in the general section since the way we are trying to run linux/android is not with a rom but over the curent os.
Check this thread I posted it has more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656056
Thanks,
Peter

dogguns said:
I already wrote about this in the general section since the way we are trying to run linux/android is not with a rom but over the curent os.
Check this thread I posted it has more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656056
Thanks,
Peter
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maybe we need to make a detailed research first and then figure out a way to start

in my opinion it would be great.
I played with HTC Magic some time and I must say that Android is awesome. Android's applications are so great and free. We have to be honest WM has nothing if we compare it to Android or Iphone's OS. In WM market we can buy crapp for a lot of money and Android's free great apps in other hands. TG01 and Android would be perfect match

Have a go...
I use HTC HERO as my primary devise and Toshiba TG01 as my secondary device. To be honest Win Mo does not do justice and dsnt fully utilize the ability of the hardware available. Android is mind blowing with regards to the usability and specially because of the number of useful free apps on offer. . Android is the way to go. It can transform this device from a looser to an absolute winner. I bought the device for £139 with Android it would be a steal..
Thank you so much. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately I contribute in any manner except donating for the efforts because I am not experienced in this.

Same i do i came from iphone OS and using htc magic android, and i love thousand apps for iphone and android and quality of theese ; so id like anybody could make something like this.
TG01 is a great device but is quite short in software by now.

[Q] Does anyone have HP614C with Android2.2?

Does anyone have installed to HP614C a Android2.2 software?
Please advice if this someday will it can be installed and will it be stable?
I have read about the dual boot.
Thank you.

second that!

mendel129 said:
second that!
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Yes but there is not answer if this can be done now!

Never heard of Android on 614c. I heard of it successfully run on some HTC devices (Tilt II), but this one is manufactured by a different company, so I don't think it will ever be possible

there is a thread regarding booting aOS on 614c. The memeber who tried (natively, no haret involved) told it is working but most of the functions do not work. I tried to beg him/pm him for boot loader instructions etc to no avail until now. So it is possible as pxa is now supported within android. he told that calls did work but no camera net or wifi was there. I myself would like to test it. actually i think the farthest we can get is 1.6. i think 2.1 demands more resources like 3d and andr 2.2 fixes the speed greatly for 2.1.
Please seniors, do some devel regarding this. if we have an inital rom/howto someone might be interrested in developing it a little further.
Kudos to this board!
here is the first topic regarding this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464998&highlight=android
Also here is my pm with the guy who managed it and told some info and advised us not to bother (tonev)
"Why would you need android there are so many things that don't work, you can't take pictures with the camera, no sound (but you can make calls and you can hear the other person and he can hear you perfectly)"

That's what I really meant... probably you can boot it (I think you can also boot Linux), but a lot of stuff doesn't work, and probably never will because there are no drivers for the hardware. Android development only respects hardware in devices that are *made for* android, so I doubt there'll ever be any drivers for our hardware, especially since it was built by some company that doesn't build any devices anymore. HTC reuses hardware in lots of devices, so there's a higher probability with an HTC device that hardware is supported.

Hi,
Does anyone make some progress on this project?
Thanks!

Hi,
Any update on this?

[Q] development has slowed down

First of all this is not a complaint,only a query.why has the development of wp7 Rom slowed down,is it because the great devs are waiting for the big update to be released first?
And just to add my thanks for the fantastic work all devs do for us hd2 owners.

stressballs said:
First of all this is not a complaint,only a query.why has the development of wp7 Rom slowed down,is it because the great devs are waiting for the big update to be released first?
And just to add my thanks for the fantastic work all devs do for us hd2 owners.
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there never has been any development bar the original release, im sure they are working on it but everything you have seen on here has been nothing but a few reg tweaks. There is only one known group that can release working ROMs everyone else just copies those, i doubt those guys will release a new ROM until nodo is out, its pointless doing silly updates
For the time being there will not be the variety of ROMS like we had on WM6.5 (there is no tools for one and no development branch releases) and because its very much locked down you wont get "home brewed" versions like in android.
besides, im more than happy with the original release, many of the so called bugs in other releases "appear" to be bugs created by the editing of the ROm in the first place.

ofcourse development slowed down.. to begin with there was no development at all.. all the devs were spaming roms that for me are all the same.. sure the one has the white htc bootscreen and the others dont.. but so what? the only thing that was new was one dude that put polish language in the menus.. and that's it.. the OS it pretty new and most of all locked down..

There is no real reason for new ROM's before the NoDo update. The 7008 update is actually a dummy to test the update process and contains nothing new.
The current DFT ROM runs as well as WP7 could possibly run on a HD2. All the known bugs are either OS related (affect also native WP7 devices) or are caused by the hardware (no camera button = no autofocus, no native HD2 battery driver etc.). There is not much that can be fixed atm so it's natural we don't see many ROM's.

IF! android is ever ported to the htc sorround

please devs if you guys get android ported to the sorround let the screen be unlocked with the button on top directly to home...... many of us are having trouble with the touch screens when we lock it..........AAANNNDDD people please be positive about the porting its the only way it'll give hope to the developers on doing this so if your bringing that negative energy go away

As an HD2 user who is looking into replacements (though none can really be found), I can give some tips on how to try.
First, you need to make a port of the HD2's cLK ROM Loader, an open-source bootloader that can dual-boot WP7 and Android. Cotulla's MAGLDR, the first of them, was no easy task to create, and it's Android booting function has not been replicated on other ports to my knowledge.
Next, you need to find a working kernel that is compatible, perhaps from a similar HTC Android phone. It just happened that HTC made the EVO 4G with the same parts to spite the HD2, but even then the kernel needed years of tuning and driver rewrites to get it to where it is now.
Finally, you need a huge worldwide userbase on XDA that is fully dedicated to making Android on your phone possible. For the HD2, it was a superpowered phone crippled by obselete software, so many devs got it cut rate secondhand and had a big motivation to make their phones usable again. Even so, this took a looong time to get a usable Android build, by then which Android phones were fast surpassing the power of the venerable HD2, sapping the initial benefits.
To the OP, we have an old adage where a mouse tells a group of mice that it would be a good idea to put a bell on the neighborhood cat. The mice agree, but seek advice from the elder mouse. The elder brings up a good point: "A good idea; But who will bell the cat?"
Sent fom my HTC HD2

It's pretty hard to do that because of the hardware compatibility and the structure build of the phone I guess but still I also hope that that day would come.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII GT-9100T