Random Downloading APK question - Fascinate General

When downloading an apk to your sd. Is it best to move it to the app folder in system to install it (as opposed to installing it right on the sd card) or is there no benefit to doing so.

just install it from the SD card. When you do that, it leaves a backup of the app there (in case you need to wipe the phone) and it installs it into the data/app folder NOT the system folder. Some apps don't play well in the system folder (handcent comes to mind) and some programs exempt system apps from their function (task killers and the like)

I put it on root of SD(not required at all) then find it in astro and all goes well every time
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[n00b] Market APPs not installing -Try This-

There are a bunch of threads that have questions about Apps not installing in the market. My usual symptoms include the app being stuck in 'Starting Download" in the market while the notification bar says it downloading ok. This occurs in many roms too ASOP and Sense.
This fix I use it deleting the contents of .android_secure folder found on your SDCard. This fix works 100% for me.
I'm pretty sure that deletes any apps you've moved to the SD card.
I can't say thats the case. I have a couple of apps on my sd card (Angry Birds, Raging Thunder 2, etc) and my .android_secure is empty.
I checked by going into settings/applications/manage applications/on sd card. It reports 7 apps on SD. What I did then is checked the .android_secure folder using Root Explorer and it says its empty. Finally, I opened up Raging Thunder and was able to play the game successfully.
Where did you get this information? Looking at the folder structure, it looks like the data is stored in another location. I would like to know where though.
The directory appears empty from within an android based explorer, but if you mount the card on windows, you'll see a bunch of .asec files. For example, I have a 16MB com.rovio.angrybirds-1.asec file there. I think the reason it appears empty when you look on the phone is because it takes those files and mounts them, either hiding them as a side effect of that process or explicitly hiding them as a separate step. If you do a df from ADB or terminal (with the card mounted on the phone), you see a bunch of entries like this:
/dev/block/dm-69 16612 14484 2128 87% /mnt/asec/com.rovio.angrybirds-1
So there are files there, but it looks like they're hidden when the card is mounted. I'm not 100% sure what happens if you delete them (while the card is mounted on windows, not the phone), but I believe it would break the apps you've moved to the SD card when you remount the card on the phone.
Interesting info...i didn't know the files were hidden. Btw, do you have apps that don't install the first go around? This happens on numerous occasions with different roms
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Yeah, I've seen issues sometimes. You mention different roms -- are you using Titanium to reinstall apps and having issues the next time an update comes out on the market? I've been seeing that one lately. Usually the second time around it works. Not sure why. Of course, the market itself also goes out from time to time.
Your tip *does* apply when you're doing a hard reset/wipe data. .android_secure should be emptied after you've wiped data, as I believe those files are encrypted using a key on the data partition. However, I believe both CW (for sure) and Amon (I think) will wipe .android_secure when you wipe data, so that should be done for you. I did see situations before I was rooted when I reset somehow (maybe just through android's own factory reset) and the dir didn't clear out, but I think it will normally if you wipe through recovery. Other than after a data wipe though, I don't think you normally want to manually touch that directory.
Another method that has worked for me especially with Angry Birds is to unmount your SD card (via settings), install the program, and then remount your SD card. With this method however you have to repeat the procedure each time the program is updated.

Move apps from ext to internal memory?

Hi,
I wanted to move some apps from the ext-partition of my cm6-based rom back to the internal memory. I tried moving the apk from /sd-ext/app to /system/app with ES-File Explorer but this broke the apps (FC). Do I need to move more files or is there another trick to get this to work?
Try moving app from data app to system app. I use root explorer for this and works fine
I've got no "app" folder in my /data/ folder
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I've got no "app" folder in my /data/ folder
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If you're using estrongs I'm not sure you'd see it. Root explorer works for me but ADB is another way to do it. If you have an ext partition on SD all downloaded apps will go there but some file managers I used don't access bits of data on my SD : )
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[Q] Is the sd card independent of rom?

Do the contents of my sd card have any effect on rom or after downgrade. I think i understand that some apps require 2.3.4 for compatibility reasons. After downgrading, rooting, can i use my previous sd card?
The contents of the sdcard can, but normally do not affect the ROM. Unity does store some stuff on the sdcard and android creates a few hidden folders for data. If the other ROM doesn't use the same storage, there should be no adverse consequences.
If your sdcard has multiple partitions; fat, ext, swap; then it will be more likely to cause issues. If you are just using it for storage then it shouldn't be an issue.
Be sure to move any PD15IMG files to a subfolder and you should be fine.
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Hopefully the PM was alright. I'll be sure to move the PD15IMG.zip to another folder. When using titanium backup for the apps i saved the data also. If, after rooting redownload the app and having the dropbox account and having saved the titanium backup data folder - should i be able to restore each app + data without having to save each data folder? I appreciate your help.
If you copied the titanium folder from the sdcard after running the backup, then yes, your data is saved too. Some apps will act a little funny if you do a restore of "app + data". With those, I restore the app only, then restore data only.
You may find it easier to put the titanium folder back on the sdcard before you download the app again. Then when the app initializes it will see the folder is already there and use the information in it.
Google's backup feature has been hit and miss with me when switching ROMs. Sometimes it installs all my apps from the market, some times only a few of them and usually none of them.
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Tutorial on how to install more apps on your phone when youre out of memory

Ive found a way to install apps on my desire even if it says that im out of memory. When it says that its almost out of memory it means that it isnt so much space left in the data partition of the phone.
However i have seen that i have like 130 mb space left in my system partition.
The system partition is much like the data partition. The difference is that this partition holds the system apps like contact app, camera app, gallery app, settings app and so on...
Data partition unlike the system partition holds apps that are install/uninstallable. Still if you have root and have root explorer installed then you can see if you have much storage left in your system partition. I would recommend that you have about 100 mb storage left cuz then you can surely use this method.
NOTE:
This isnt garanteed 100% that it will work and for that i recommend that you do a backup of your current rom. And leave a bit space in system partition incase it needs some space. I leave 20 mb space and its working out for me fine.
So what we are gonna do is that we are gonna move our apps or games to the system partition as if it would be a system app and we are gonna use that extra space.
Requirements: Root, S-OFF, recovery, root explorer installed, the apk files of the apps you wabt to move (use a apk manager to make a apk file from your installed apps)
1. Backup your current rom using a recovery.
2. Open root explorer and grant the root access permission.
3. Go to sdcard/ and copy the apk files of the apps that you want to move
4. Go back out of the sdcard and go to system/app/
5. Here make sure you tap on the button in the upper right corner that says Mount R/W
6. Paste the apk files here and rename them to some simple name for example rename com.imangi.templerun.apk to TempleRun.apk
7. After youve done everything in the right order just reboot and your apps should appear in your apps list and you wont be able to move them to sdcard or uninstall them. Incase you have the apps that want to move already installed then uninstall them before the restart.
Only way to remove these apps is to remove the apk files from system/app folder using root manager while the system is mounted as r/w. After a restart the apps should be gone.
If anything goes wrong then just format the system partition and restore it using recovery.
Hope some of you find this helpfull
BTW: this does not work with viber so done even try or you will get unlimited crashes that wont stop viber from trying to start.
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Quick question:
I'm on a MIUI based rom, and my /system/app only has 11Mb free. I'm assuming that I can't increase that without losing some important apps?
Well i have never encountered a rom that has less than 50 mb space there. I assume that you have too many apps there. See if you can clean that folder up a bit by searching for apps that you think arent necessary. Like for example i have a app called adaway.apk. I dont need it nor does the system need it. If u cannot do that then change rom.
Btw more apps that donr work with this: SetCPU, Viber
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[Q] How to expand system memory?

How can i expand my system storage? Because i want to instal chainfire 3d and it dont let me istall it , it says there are not enaught space in system.....
You can't expand the system partition. Do a full wipe (including system) and flash your ROM again, and this time save some space by not flashing mods, and using minimal gapps.
Or, for a quick solution you could delete certain system apps via root explorer
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In to system folder and delete unnecessary ringtones or system apps
With this little information it's a wild guess but:
If your internal memory is full, maybe you can check the /data/tombstones directory because it can take up a few GiB's. If your phone is rooted and you have root explorer, you can delete them all. If not delete something so you can install root explorer.

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