Hi,
After a lot of tweeking, installing and long hours, I finally managed to get Android 3.2 (Froyo Stone) to work and be able to reboot . Ofcourse, I am very happy, but there is only one thing I am wondering..
Every time I download an app or take a picture or basically do anything on the phone, the phone generates a new folder on the root of the SD Card and not directly in the Android folder. This is not a problem because I can just place them in the android folder whenever I need to reboot only and everything is back too normal acceptttt.. Most games and apps. They are still visible on the SD Card, but I can not play them anymore because I moved them and have to re-download and re-install them every time I need to reboot. And when I leave the folder outside of the SD Card, I can't boot Android because the Android folder needs to be the only one on the root of the SD Card. So here's my question:
Is there a way to automatically save all download/installs to the Android, insted of the Root of the SD Card?
Real simple answer to this.... stop moving the files! I've seen it on the forums where people say that the Android folder must be the only folder on your SD card, but that is just plain wrong.
Just let it do what it does and don't worry about the miriad of new folders that are created.
i don't think "android" must be the only folder in the root. just don't touch any system files.
in fact my understanding is android in sd card is kind of convenience. as long as you backup the file, you can do any experiments you want: moving file to anywhere easily.
much easier than nandroid backup
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Hi everyone
I just managed to boot android onto my HD2 and I'm loving it!
Question though: when i install applications from the android market, where do they get stored/installed? Is it in the SD card? Or on the flash memory of the phone... I couldn't seem to find a directory on my sd card that had all the applications I downloaded...
Thanks in advance!
they will get stored in the data file unless it needs some external access and then it will create a folder on the sd card
oh, do you mean that 1GB data.img file?
so it basically does just stay on the SD card then right?
i installed quite a bit of applications, but the data.img file still seems to stay at the same size..?
Yes, exactly. everything will be stored in the 1GB data.img. Unless you download additional stuffs through or within the application, then the application will create a new folder to store them.
To conclude, everything will be stored in your SD card.
great! thanks!
Installing apps
Since the topic is about installation of apps, i'd just like to ask a question about installing apps. I'm new to Android on hd2 and was wondering if they are cab files to install android apps like in WM. And also if there is, how do u install the apps as we can;'t access file explorer in android
Thanks
Hey,
I was wondering how to install multiple ROMs of Android on the same SD card. I've read that each ROM should have its own folder in the root of the SD card. The thing is, though, that the root of my SD card has a bunch of other files and folders - most of which are related to Android (and are the folders of Apps of my current ROM).
Do I just move everything that's related to that ROM into a new folder in the root? So instead of my Haret file being located at "I:\HyperDroidV1.7" it would be located at "I:\NewFolder\HyperDroidV1.7"
Also, when you are just updating from one ROM to another, is there a way to keep all of your apps/data?
Thanks!
1. What you need to do, is to rename the folder containing your 2nd, 3rd, etc. builds to whatever makes you comfortable (HyperDroid, SenseDroid, UltimateDroid, you get it) and then in the startup.txt of the corresponding build, where it says rel_path='Android', change the Android part to whatever you named the corresponding folder to.
It is a good idea to not rename the folder until you have fully booted a build at least once though, so if you download a build and its folder is named 'android' and you already have a build on your sd card in an 'android folder, just rename the existing one to 'android2' or something temporarily, then change it back once you have booted and renamed the new build.
2. Then get Exceller Android and Ubuntu Loader, just search the HD2 forums and you'll find it. It will detect your folders with Haret in them, and give you the choice of which one you want to boot, it will activate CLRCAD and Haret for you, and it also has an autoboot feature that you can set to 3 seconds after booting Windows, which really helps save battery in Android.
You can have as many builds as you want, you're only limited by the size of your sd card. I have like 7 or 8 myself, but only really ever use 3 or 4 (I get bored easy )
3. As far as saving your data, you can try copy n pasting your data.img from your Android folder to your new build, but I never do, as it can cause problems and often won't even boot up. I suggest using Titanium Backup to back up/restore your apps from build to build, and your contacts and appointments should be restored when you sign into your Google account when you first set up the build. Then it's just a matter of customizing everything else. After all, you don't want all your builds set up exactly the same, right?
Good luck, hope this helps
Thanks for the info, but I still have a question: if I just change the name of the "Android" folder for the new build, wont other folders conflict? For example, on my current build, the root of my SD card has, among other folders, the "HyperDroid" folder (where my haret is), "Android," and "Media". It also has folders belonging to other Apps.
Even if I rename the one Android folder, wouldn't that new build also create new folders on the root of my SD cards, some of which would inevitably conflict with stuff I have on my first build.
Thanks.
Rangerunseen said:
Thanks for the info, but I still have a question: if I just change the name of the "Android" folder for the new build, wont other folders conflict? For example, on my current build, the root of my SD card has, among other folders, the "HyperDroid" folder (where my haret is), "Android," and "Media". It also has folders belonging to other Apps.
Even if I rename the one Android folder, wouldn't that new build also create new folders on the root of my SD cards, some of which would inevitably conflict with stuff I have on my first build.
Thanks.
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Some do and some dont, Its probably best to stick to multiple builds of same type of builds and dont mix say sense rom with MIUI or stock ones etc.
Hello,
i have 2 problems:
1. I formated my 8 GB card under FAT32 and i copied on Andorid. Then i copied some apps on the card to install them, but when i opened Files explorer in android, the files were not there. Then i opened the card again in windows, and they were there again!!! So they are visible in windows and not visible in android
2. I put back my music on the card, it was ok for 30 mins and after that all the new files on the card ware gone! Only the android folder was there!
What to do?
Anybody can help?
Am i the only one with this problem
From what I remember this has been a problem when using Android to move files to your sdcard, are you using Nand or SD?
After you copy something try rebooting and then it should show up. Way back when before Nand we had to do it this way as for some reason Android will not see the new file until you reboot.
I've restarted the phone several times, but still no files...
Are you using a SD or Nand rom?
SD. All i can see on the card from droid file manager are only the droid files.
Update: After moving the files on the phone while in WM, now i can see them in Android also... for now I will update it if android deletes them or something...
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SD. All i can see on the card from droid file manager are only the droid files.
Update: After moving the files on the phone while in WM, now i can see them in Android also... for now I will update it if android deletes them or something...
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Glad you got it sorted out, yeah mounting your sdcard while running an SD Android rom has never been the most reliable. I would definitely suggest doing it in WinMo from now on to avoid any issues
I've always booted Android from my SD card using RunDroid under Windows 6.5. But I broke my HD2 so I bought another used HD2.
This "new" HD2 already has Android (NAND) installed and it's using MAGLDR 1.13. The installed Android version runs fine so I don't want to remove it. Instead, I simply want to run the same Android I've been running on my old HD2 from SD.
So I boot into MAGLDR, goto Services -> Boot Settings-> AD-SD Dir to pick the directory I want to boot my Android from.
Problem is, the directory list MAGLDR is showing isn't anywhere near complete. It only shows the first 9 directories on the SD card (there are about 30 directories on the SD card). So I'm unable to choose the right directory to boot from.
This is a 16GB SD card formatted as FAT32. My old HD2 had no problems whatsovere reading from it (not in Win6.5, not in Android).
So does anybody know what's wrong here?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Perhaps some folders have an attribute set that is hiding them? -h for instance. Personally I'd create a new folder, test if mgldr can see it, and if it can, move the contents of the android folder into it. If itccan't, I'd backup the SD, and do a complete reformat of the card, including rebuilding the partition from scratch.
All directories can be viewed from within Android without problem...
Odd thing is, that MAGLDR is displaying all directory names in 8.3 format. In fact, I think it only shows the directories created from within WM 6.5. The directories it doesn't show are created from within Android.
I've copied the contents of the SD Card to my PC's harddrive, reformatted the SD Card and copied everything back.
It's still only showing the first 9 directories (only this time 9 different directories).
The card was formatted using FAT32 since I want the card to be readable under WM6.5 as well. But that shouldn't be a problem considering Android can read the SD card just fine.
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It's still only showing the first 9 directories (only this time 9 different directories).
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try this just for kicks, if youcan be bothered,,,, empty teh card, put the dirs on in the ordser you want them to appear, one at a time. Im betting the first nine you drag across will appear.
Ive seen harddisks do the 8.3 thing unexpectedly, i'd be looking hard at the sd card. If you have another card available, definitely give it a test to compare.
As for the fat32 formatting, perhaps a non standard block size was used (or at least one magldr wasn't expecting, , remember magldr is a handfull of lines of code compared to androids many hundred thousand lines, , just saying 'well android can read it fine' is a bit like saying 'hey what gives, , my binoculars can't see the horsehead nebula, but the hubble can'
(astronerds, calm yourselves, yes i know you can see it thru a nice set of decent binos with a good lense/filter, it was just the first commonly known astro object i could think of )
Yeah it's showing the first 9 directories only so I did what you said and cleared the SD card and copied the Android folder first, then the rest. MAGLDR now saw the right Android directory and I was able to set it as boot directory. But now I have another weird problem. I've started a new thread since it's (I think) an unrelated problem.
Zippy1970 said:
I've always booted Android from my SD card using RunDroid under Windows 6.5. But I broke my HD2 so I bought another used HD2.
This "new" HD2 already has Android (NAND) installed and it's using MAGLDR 1.13. The installed Android version runs fine so I don't want to remove it. Instead, I simply want to run the same Android I've been running on my old HD2 from SD.
So I boot into MAGLDR, goto Services -> Boot Settings-> AD-SD Dir to pick the directory I want to boot my Android from.
Problem is, the directory list MAGLDR is showing isn't anywhere near complete. It only shows the first 9 directories on the SD card (there are about 30 directories on the SD card). So I'm unable to choose the right directory to boot from.
This is a 16GB SD card formatted as FAT32. My old HD2 had no problems whatsovere reading from it (not in Win6.5, not in Android).
So does anybody know what's wrong here?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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i extremely stuck i was trying to use native sd method so i created a new ext partition but when i tried to create it i am unable to see any folders in the Services -> Boot Settings-> AD-SD Dir to pick the directory I want to boot my Android
why is this please help me asap
That was a problem to me when I started playing with nativesd, seeing only the first few directories, but if you just use the volume rocker to scroll down, you will get another page of the remaining directories and files, simple.
Just great reply - Thanks
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That was a problem to me when I started playing with nativesd, seeing only the first few directories, but if you just use the volume rocker to scroll down, you will get another page of the remaining directories and files, simple.
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Hello,
I am looking for some advice with regard to a speciifc problem I have with my HD2 which is running Android from SD using haret.exe etc to start the system from within Windows Mobile 6.5. The android files are currently held on a 8GB sandisk card. I have prefered this method of using android basically because I find it useful to remove the SD card and create a backup of the files onto my PC, which gives me peace of mind before installing new tryout software, just incase something goes wrong, I know I have the option to go back to a working system very quickly by reloading the files back to the SD card from the PC backup.
Recently I have been thinking that it might be easier if I could backup the files using the phone directly, so I decided to buy a 16GB card in order to partition it into two virtual 8GB drives and load my existing android os files onto one partition, whilst using the second partition to save a backup of android. I thought I should be able to create a backup of android from within WM6.5 instead of having to remove the card and rely on a PC all the time to do this job.
So, using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition, I formatted and partitioned the new 16GB SD card, I used FAT32 for each partition and proceeded to copy my android files to the first partition of the new card. I installed the card into my HD2 and started the phone up which booted into WM6.5
From within WM6.5, I used the file explorer and could see both partitions appearing as separate SD cards, the first containing all my android os files etc, and the second partition was empty of course. Just as a test I thought I would try a copy and paste of a couple of files from the android partition to the empty partition, and this worked just fine. I thought to myself I am onto a winner here : ) Read on....
With that I decided to boot into android by clicking on haret.exe.
The system started to boot as normal and everything appeared to be going very very well. Booting completed and the system was ready to use..... Then I thought I would have a look around and see if it was running ok. OH DEAR.... It was reporting that it couldn't find the SD card, even though it had booted from it ! All my files and folders inaccessible and any programs that had been moved to SD card wouldn't start up or were missing from the list of installed apps. I still cant understand why the system has booted from an SD card that it cannot find once the system has booted......
This whole excercise was basically motivated by the need to be able to backup and restore the system from one partition to the other without the constant need to remove the SD card and do the job from a PC. (Constant removal of the SD card is starting to bother me incase I end up wearing the card slot out)
So basically my question is can this be done using my existing android install? (I wouldn't want to start again and install from scratch because the system is highly customised, and has took me a long time to get where it is now) I want to be able to have two partitions on my SD card, one which boots, runs android and holds all my files associated with android, and a second parition which I can use to create and restore a backup from within WM6.5.
This is not a desperate requirement, but I feel it would be a lot better than needing to rely on having my PC to hand all the time. This idea has come from my longstanding history of creating backups using GHOST and similar applications in Windows XP. I would like to do the same with my phone. Obviously I would still periodically make a backup to the PC for safekeeping but it would be more convenient to do it with the phone itself.
Any advice on where I am going wrong would be very useful. Also if you can suggest any other ways of making a strong reliable backup that makes an image of 'EVERYTHING' as is from within android directly, please let me know. I have had a look at Titanium backup, but not sure if it would make a mirror image of 'EVERYTHING' the way I would like to do it (like Ghost does in windows). The way I am doing it at present works fine, except for having to constantly remove the card and rely on having a PC about.
Oh by the way the android version on my SD card is Froyo 2.2 incase this matters (I have never bothered upgrading because it works and does what I need it to do)
Many Thanks
Tony
Brookbond said:
Hello,
I am looking for some advice with regard to a speciifc problem I have with my HD2 which is running Android from SD using haret.exe etc to start the system from within Windows Mobile 6.5. The android files are currently held on a 8GB sandisk card. I have prefered this method of using android basically because I find it useful to remove the SD card and create a backup of the files onto my PC, which gives me peace of mind before installing new tryout software, just incase something goes wrong, I know I have the option to go back to a working system very quickly by reloading the files back to the SD card from the PC backup.
Recently I have been thinking that it might be easier if I could backup the files using the phone directly, so I decided to buy a 16GB card in order to partition it into two virtual 8GB drives and load my existing android os files onto one partition, whilst using the second partition to save a backup of android. I thought I should be able to create a backup of android from within WM6.5 instead of having to remove the card and rely on a PC all the time to do this job.
So, using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition, I formatted and partitioned the new 16GB SD card, I used FAT32 for each partition and proceeded to copy my android files to the first partition of the new card. I installed the card into my HD2 and started the phone up which booted into WM6.5
From within WM6.5, I used the file explorer and could see both partitions appearing as separate SD cards, the first containing all my android os files etc, and the second partition was empty of course. Just as a test I thought I would try a copy and paste of a couple of files from the android partition to the empty partition, and this worked just fine. I thought to myself I am onto a winner here : ) Read on....
With that I decided to boot into android by clicking on haret.exe.
The system started to boot as normal and everything appeared to be going very very well. Booting completed and the system was ready to use..... Then I thought I would have a look around and see if it was running ok. OH DEAR.... It was reporting that it couldn't find the SD card, even though it had booted from it ! All my files and folders inaccessible and any programs that had been moved to SD card wouldn't start up or were missing from the list of installed apps. I still cant understand why the system has booted from an SD card that it cannot find once the system has booted......
This whole excercise was basically motivated by the need to be able to backup and restore the system from one partition to the other without the constant need to remove the SD card and do the job from a PC. (Constant removal of the SD card is starting to bother me incase I end up wearing the card slot out)
So basically my question is can this be done using my existing android install? (I wouldn't want to start again and install from scratch because the system is highly customised, and has took me a long time to get where it is now) I want to be able to have two partitions on my SD card, one which boots, runs android and holds all my files associated with android, and a second parition which I can use to create and restore a backup from within WM6.5.
This is not a desperate requirement, but I feel it would be a lot better than needing to rely on having my PC to hand all the time. This idea has come from my longstanding history of creating backups using GHOST and similar applications in Windows XP. I would like to do the same with my phone. Obviously I would still periodically make a backup to the PC for safekeeping but it would be more convenient to do it with the phone itself.
Any advice on where I am going wrong would be very useful. Also if you can suggest any other ways of making a strong reliable backup that makes an image of 'EVERYTHING' as is from within android directly, please let me know. I have had a look at Titanium backup, but not sure if it would make a mirror image of 'EVERYTHING' the way I would like to do it (like Ghost does in windows). The way I am doing it at present works fine, except for having to constantly remove the card and rely on having a PC about.
Oh by the way the android version on my SD card is Froyo 2.2 incase this matters (I have never bothered upgrading because it works and does what I need it to do)
Many Thanks
Tony
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Android looks at storage (and cards and file systems) differently. Assuming you created the partitions okay, you would have to use the Linux mount command (sorry, more reading).
A simpler way to accomplish your goal would be to have everything in one partition on the card. Create a folder and call it "Backup_Folder" or some other name meaningful to you. You will be able to copy/paste in Windows or Android.
Having said that you might want to read more about NAND installations when you have time. It would likely run better and give you more choices. Although a learning curve, once mastered it is as simple and safe as what you are now doing.
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