I have a US T-Mobile G1, but am in Belgium, and we don't have T network here...
is the update coming to the devices, regardless of the network they're registered on, or do I really need to be in the US, on a T-Mobile network, to get the update?
Anyone from Belgium, or somewhere in Europe that has a G1 that is on another network than it was meant for?
Is there (going to be) any means of pulling the update manually, even on another network?
Thanks for sharing the info...
First, is your phone rooted or not?
Second, what firmware/rom are you running?
You do not need to be on T-mobile to get the update. Your phone checks with a server run by google. If there is an update for it it will get sent to your phone. If your phone is rooted it wont update due to running testkeys instead of releasekeys (unless you are running an ADP firmware).
Once the exact location of the file is known you can manually download it and update your phone if you dont want to wait.
Since you say its a US G1 you should be able to get the 1.5 update which should drop sometime between May 11th and the end of the month. Your location may prevent that from happening, however you can just use the zip file that will get posted on this site somewhere if that happens.
First of all, thanks for the quick response.
The phone is not rooted, it's a normal user phone, no hacks, no custom soft...
Current version is 1.1 RC33 126986 with the release keys intact...
I'll wait until the end of the month and see then...
Just need it to get SipDroid running... (www.sipdroid.org) Wanted to make it a 'cordless phone' for my asterisk server running at home...
Thanks for the info and help!
I'll let you know when I get the update.
Just to let you know, I'm currently abroad with my G1 (UK on T-Mobile), with data roaming turned off.
Connected my G1 to the internet over Wifi and the update was detected and downloaded over Wifi. So looks as though it shouldn't matter what you're connected over.
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
saluk said:
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
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I think (thx to xda-develpers ) mine is not rooted right? Then why didn't I got the cupcake or the previous version which is newer than mine :/
Im just curious if i will receive the update OTA or not. I rooted my phone however it states that it is release keys and not test keys. Below is what the About Phone screen looks like
Firmware Version
1.1
kernel Version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-rc33 126986
ota-rel-keys, release-keys
Thanks for the help
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
You should get the OTA updates. I bought a dev phone in december and in January I got the OTA ADP1.1h update. I'm not on T-Mo at all and never have. I am on AT&T and all was well and I would assume you should be too.
ExploreMN said:
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
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I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
neoobs said:
I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I am not saying that Google created it but rather it is hosted on Google Servers, this can't change because the update script pulls the update from Google servers. Maybe in 1.5 it will change but as of 1.1 it still checks Google for the update.
Basically as long as you can reach the google address it all will update.
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
menov321 said:
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
bakgwailo said:
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
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Where did you get your info? We had tons of users getting the update OTA for the 1.1 and even previous 1.0 builds. BTW there are 3 versions of software, 2 by t-mobile, 1 by google. The 2 t-mobile versions are US and UK which have different applications because of the way company each works.
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
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Where did you hear there is a generic google version? So far only the ADP 1.5 has been made available to us, and we only know of the ADP and T-Mobile versions.
There is also this one, cupcake for holiday phone europe
http://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-dream_gfh_eu-ota-147201.ea8cd686.zip
posted here
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/05/official-german-cupcake-url-leaks-for-developers/
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
petko64 said:
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
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That could be because updates were stopped halfway through on one of the updates to make sure they fixed some security holes.
The last update I got before any T-mobile customers and I was on AT&T. I actually pulled the file off my phone and gave it to JesusFreke but by the time he got it the link had already been posted.
Could anyone with a new (before any updates, with the 7004 os version) T-Mobile UK Omnia 7 please verify what PDA / Phone / CSC does the handset come out of the box with??? Please DON'T provide the version numbers listed under Settings->About, I want the I8700xxzz codes.
You can find that info by entering the Diagnosis menu (dialing ##634#) and then *#1234#
I think that would be a useful piece of info just in case we need to send the device back.
I can tell you what mine came out of the box with on Orange UK, which I would guess may be the same since the two companies are so closely linked.
on .7004 i had...
PDA: ends with JID
Phone: ends with JIC
CSC: ends with JID
If you do a search through this thread i saw a guy saying he had JJ4 firmware on his early release t-mobile UK Omnia.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963285&highlight=update&page=9
These not alot of point in listing this info, due to the facts that the firmware the phone has, depends on when it was released.
Plus if your phone came with the orignal firmware and was latter updated to NoDo, then it went wrong. T-Mobile (and the other Phone companies) would still Repair/Replace it.
Point in case My Omnia (Oct 2010) has JJ4 firmware.
My mates Omnia (Feb 2011) has JJ6, both are T-Mobile contract phones.
Judging from the fact that Ι got my phone just recently, and it had the 7004 os version, I kinda thought that they wouldn't have updated any phones in stock firmware-wise as well, and that they all had one out-of-the-factory firmware. Apparently that isn't the case.
This is just a guess, so keep a bucket of salt handy
When the phones leave the Samsung factory they have the lastest Firmware and possibly the lastest Retail OS versions.
Then when the phones arrive at the Network Provider, they wipe the 'Retail' OS and use their own 'Branded' OS image.
Which in the case of T-Mobile UK could still be the original one from last October, hence your new phone still had 7004 installed.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S. The details on 'About' menu of the phone are:
Model Number:
GT-I9000
Firmware version:
2.1-update1
Baseband version:
I9000XXJF3
Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
Build number:
ECLAIR
I use the phone on T-Mobile. I have no idea if it is locked, etc, but was purchased there from new (well a reseller website, not sure where it physically came from).
I have never updated this phone. This is as the phone was purchased one year ago. I have not installed any new ROMs, official or custom. I am the only owner and therefore no it has never been updated without my knowledge.
I am aware a new version of Android is out and have installed the Kies software, wishing to do this the 'official' route.
I get the following error message in Kies:
The current version is not an official release.
Firmware upgrade service for unofficial versions is not supported.
Current firmware version: PDA:JF4 / PHONE:JF3 / CSC:JE6 (TMU)
Any help at all? I really want to get this updated, especially after the hassle of install the terrible Kies software! I would prefer to do this the 'official' route without installing custom ROMs etc.
Has anybody seen such a message before? Thanks!
If your using a T-Mobile version, use Samsung Kies Mini. Search for it in google.
carlo.edmon said:
If your using a T-Mobile version, use Samsung Kies Mini. Search for it in google.
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Thank you very much for the reply.
I am on T-Mobile UK and got the phone from them. I assume this means I am using a T-Mobile UK version. Can Samsung Kies Mini upgrade T-Mobile UK? If so, can you please provide a link? When searching via Google all I can find is Kies Mini for Mac. There are some old versions that come up, too, but these seem to be for specific phones.
If you could give any further advice on how to upgrade my Samsung Galaxy S i9000 on T-Mobile UK that'd be great .
Thanks.
PS - Is this part of my original post:
Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
relevant at all? Should it say 'root'? I have never 'rooted' the phone. Could this be why Kies is unhappy with my firmware version? Thanks.
Try this one:
"ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559"
It's for US but just give it a try. After installing the software, let it update to the latest version then connect your phone. My sister's phone came from US and I used this to update hers.
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Try this one:
"ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559"
It's for US but just give it a try. After installing the software, let it update to the latest version then connect your phone. My sister's phone came from US and I used this to update hers.
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Thanks for the link, I had found that before but ignored it because it does not mention i9000.
I'll give it a while incase any other ideas come in, otherwise I'll give it a go. The fact it's for the US (and you used it to update a US phone) does not give me confidence it'll work for a UK phone. I'll try it as a last resort, but I'd like to see if there are any other options for the moment.
I've given T-Mobile UK a call who were useless -If you cannot update because of Samsung Kies then you'll have to contact Samsung, not us. I contact them and they basically say 'take it into a Samsung authorised repairer'. I call my nearest one and it sounds far from a professional outfit - 'Just drop it off'. I'd hoped they could update it on the spot but I was told I'd have to leave it with them... I cannot afford to be without my phone, though.
It looks like I might have to stick to the current version I've got, I cannot get Kies to give any message other than the one in the original post... And none of the 'official' support lines are bothered. No wonder people don't bother with the 'official' releases... Though I'd like to in order to keep my warranty intact.
Thanks.
Use odin and update it your self or contach t mobile about your problem
got-petrol said:
Use odin and update it your self or contach t mobile about your problem
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Thanks for the reply. I have tried contacting T-Mobile already, see previous post (relevant section below):
I've given T-Mobile UK a call who were useless -If you cannot update because of Samsung Kies then you'll have to contact Samsung, not us. I contact them and they basically say 'take it into a Samsung authorised repairer'. I call my nearest one and it sounds far from a professional outfit - 'Just drop it off'. I'd hoped they could update it on the spot but I was told I'd have to leave it with them... I cannot afford to be without my phone, though.
I'm basically left without any help from them. I'd rather not go down the Do-It-Yourself route, mainly because I do not understand all of the steps that need doing. Each guide is *slightly* different... And I've no idea which (specific) files I should download and from where... And kernel? And ROM? And.. Urgg. I also see Phone/PDA/CSC... It's a minefield for somebody that does not know enough and wanted an easy update.
I am starting to consider doing it myself but really need to find one definitive guide that I should follow.
Thanks.
I would have posted this under the S5 'T-Mobile' section, but I think it might be more of a generic discussion.
I am considering in purchasing the S5 Plus (G901F). From what I can see right now, this is only available in Germany, UK and just about now, Netherlands. Problem is that it's exclusive to respective providers and therefore - "branded"
I can find it cheaper from Germany - which is subject to T-Mobile / Telekom (same thing?) branding.
I have asked the shop and they confirmed that the phone is factory unlocked to any provider/country and that there is no "hardware branding" on the phone. Meaning no stickers, no logos or anything else physically on the phone.
However, there is "software branding". Meaning the firmware itself and whatever bloatware the provider has put inside that ROM.
Now, I have read that I can use ODIN and find the least crapware-loaded ROM (from any country) and flash it *without* compromissing the knox bit. So far so good.
What I would like to know is that: What happens when finally Samsung releases a pure, non-branded ROM for the G901F? I can still use ODIN to flash - no problem. But what about future releases. I mean future non-branded firmwares. Would I be able to use OTA from that point on, or would I have to keep an eye and update via ODIN? Can someone please elaborate and explain this?
I get it - that's a 'newbie' type of question, but I would be really grateful towards some help here. All I can do for someone who will spend 2mins for writing a useful/accurate answer is say 'thanks'
Didn't find an exact answer to what I ask here, hence me writing this. Hope it's not a double-post!
jstoner said:
I would have posted this under the S5 'T-Mobile' section, but I think it might be more of a generic discussion.
I am considering in purchasing the S5 Plus (G901F). From what I can see right now, this is only available in Germany, UK and just about now, Netherlands. Problem is that it's exclusive to respective providers and therefore - "branded"
I can find it cheaper from Germany - which is subject to T-Mobile / Telekom (same thing?) branding.
I have asked the shop and they confirmed that the phone is factory unlocked to any provider/country and that there is no "hardware branding" on the phone. Meaning no stickers, no logos or anything else physically on the phone.
However, there is "software branding". Meaning the firmware itself and whatever bloatware the provider has put inside that ROM.
Now, I have read that I can use ODIN and find the least crapware-loaded ROM (from any country) and flash it *without* compromissing the knox bit. So far so good.
What I would like to know is that: What happens when finally Samsung releases a pure, non-branded ROM for the G901F? I can still use ODIN to flash - no problem. But what about future releases. I mean future non-branded firmwares. Would I be able to use OTA from that point on, or would I have to keep an eye and update via ODIN? Can someone please elaborate and explain this?
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Hi jstoner,
I think that while using an unbranded ROM would probably prevent you from receiving OTA's from your provider you would still be left wih the Samsung tool for getting new updates - Kies.
It has the options to check for updates and to flash them.
The geeky option is indeed to keep your eyes out for updates and fire up Odin
Disclaimer: I never used Kies to update my phone so I might be wrong here
Sent from my Android powered Tricorder
I forgot to mention - I live in Greece (but I m thinking of buying the phone from Germany, as it's not available here yet)
Does KIES list all ROMs from ALL regions/providers for a particular phone?
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I think that while using an unbranded ROM would probably prevent you from receiving OTA's from your provider you would still be left wih the Samsung tool for getting new updates - Kies.
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Hello,
It seems there is a firmware for Greece for you
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/40735/G901FXXU1ANK3_G901FEUR1ANL1_EUR.zip/
Oh good
Does that mean it's about to be released in Greece soon???
thierry_b said:
Hello,
It seems there is a firmware for Greece for you
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/40735/G901FXXU1ANK3_G901FEUR1ANL1_EUR.zip/
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Nobody knows man. But you can always flash the newest updates via odin without triggering knox. After a few month only German Vodafone is building an update. T- mobil stii stuck on h5 firmware. So if there will be an unbranded oce ever ever ever.........you have odin
Wonder if that Greek ROM is unbranded or not
As for hardware branding, it seems that all G901F units sold in Germany under Telekom/T-Mobile have that "LTE+" at the back (also on the retail box). Instead, those EE (UK) units seem to have no hardware branding at all - it just has the "Samsung" logo at the back cover (and nothing on the retail box)
teichy1 said:
No Body knows man. But you can always flash the newest updates via odin without triggering knox. After a few month only German Vodafone is building an update. T- mobil stii stuck on h5 firmware. So if there will be an unbranded oce ever ever ever.........you have odin
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There are a few Providerapps inside. All Roms i tested for 901F has the normal Samsung Bootloaderscreener. No Provider startup. So nothing to worry about . Mine has also the LTE+ logo, but former T-Mobile Devices have also Coverbrands on it...Thanks God these not
HI,
I'm posting here because I am wondering if anyone can help.
I have a samsung S7 Edge. It's model SM-G935F. It's on Android 7.
It's security patch level is currently listed as Feb 2018.
I'm on the the Three UK network and I purchased this device from a Samsung branded store. If I manually check for updates it says "Your phone is up to do date".
I've spoken to support at three and they tell me that all of their S7's have had this firmware deployed. They have referred me to Samsung tech support who have talked me through a few things (which I had already tried...). I've even used Samsung Switch to check for an update.
The last message I received from Samsung support is that I'll have to wait until they get around to sending an update to my device. Meanwhile Samsung's general account say try taking it to a Samsung service centre.
So I was wondering if anyone had any advice?
Yes, I could root and deploy an issue to my device but for the moment I'd like to see if I can get the OTA update to work.
(I have insurance on this device so I'm unsure if I end up having to root it whether it could invalidate it?)
Also for work reasons I need to see if it is possible to get some support from Samsung and/or Three.
You can easily flash latest Oreo firmware through Odin.
Kill-Switch said:
You can easily flash latest Oreo firmware through Odin.
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Thanks, i know that, it wasn't the answer I was looking for.
Turns out that the supplier had handed me a chinese phone. So I am due a replacement.
To say I am not happy with Samsung's own branded UK shops would be an understatement.