Does anyone else think JK2 isn't quite ready yet? - Vibrant General

I've tried most of the Froyo ROMs out there (except Eugene's, but I assume it isn't much different... I could be wrong). Anyways, everyone says it's stupid fast, but I just don't see it. Even with a lag fix.
Also whenever I scroll, most notable in LauncherPro or maybe scrolling through the picture stream at the bottom of the facebook app, it seems to studder. Which bugs me to no end for some reason.
I want to make the jump to Froyo, I really do. I tried using Froyo roms as my daily driver but I couldn't do it, I always come back to JI6 for some reason.
As a side note, I'm not really sure why, but I keep going back to stock JI6 instead of Fusion for some reason, ODIN seems easier to me hahaha.
Anyhow is anyone else seeing any similar problems? Also is this due to the kernel?

Dude, there is an issue on your end. My froyo FLIES.

rbirg said:
I've tried most of the Froyo ROMs out there (except Eugene's, but I assume it isn't much different... I could be wrong). Anyways, everyone says it's stupid fast, but I just don't see it. Even with a lag fix.
Also whenever I scroll, most notable in LauncherPro or maybe scrolling through the picture stream at the bottom of the facebook app, it seems to studder. Which bugs me to no end for some reason.
I want to make the jump to Froyo, I really do. I tried using Froyo roms as my daily driver but I couldn't do it, I always come back to JI6 for some reason.
As a side note, I'm not really sure why, but I keep going back to stock JI6 instead of Fusion for some reason, ODIN seems easier to me hahaha.
Anyhow is anyone else seeing any similar problems? Also is this due to the kernel?
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I've always had the lag on facebook because my 3G connection couldn't keep up. I've never had LauncherPro lag... its insanely fast IMO. Try ODIN repartition to JFD and then flash a ROM on top of it. I'm using Team Whiskey's Onyx R4 btw.

richan90 said:
I've always had the lag on facebook because my 3G connection couldn't keep up. I've never had LauncherPro lag... its insanely fast IMO. Try ODIN repartition to JFD and then flash a ROM on top of it. I'm using Team Whiskey's Onyx R4 btw.
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Also it's not due to internet. It is when you scroll the pictures on the selection screen (profile, friends, etc)
It's not lag, it's subtle studders. It'll start scrolling smoothly, then all the sudden it will jump back up for a second and keep scrolling down.
Fail.

I also tried some of existing JK2-based roms. I suspect even the eugene's odin rom be not a pure JK2 rom. I'd appreciate the thankful efforts by devs, though. Anyways, I also always kept coming back to JI6 for some issues. That some don't suffer from issues doesn't mean that others don't either. In my case, there were intermittent force closes randomly, FYI.

I'm running Axura and love it.
Perfection by Axura

ransz28 said:
I'm running Axura and love it.
Perfection by Axura
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I tried Axura earlier today and had the same issues. Loved the rom though. The animations are so awesome.

rbirg said:
Also it's not due to internet. It is when you scroll the pictures on the selection screen (profile, friends, etc)
It's not lag, it's subtle studders. It'll start scrolling smoothly, then all the sudden it will jump back up for a second and keep scrolling down.
Fail.
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This happens on JI6 when using the Friends widget. It may simply be the way the data is loaded into the control, and drawing the pictures can perhaps be somewhat of a reason. I haven't really troubleshooted it much, so I can't say for sure.
I just stopped using the widget. When I had an HTC phone the sense widget did not have this issue, and it was the same base OS (Android 2.1). I'm having a hard time blaming this on the OS itself.
Lag... Stutters... I say semantics.

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What is "lag", and how does it present itself?

Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
keenerb said:
Ok, so stock Vibrant "lag". What does this mean, precisely? I'm a rooted but otherwise stock JI6, and I don't see any lag anywhere on the phone.
If I were to be experiencing this lag, what would it look like?
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Get Xscope V5 (V6 is buggy) browser for free x-labs.net and use it for a day or two. Notice how slow it loads webpages sometimes. Or try Miui Browser (not in market) GUI lags a little too
The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
The 'lag' that you see people complaining about does not happen on all phones, all the time.
And I need to remind you to be careful about installing any lagfix. Read up on what it does and how it may affect your phone BEFORE installing it.
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The LAG that most people are talking about is when you switch windows or open a new app. Sometimes when doing this, the phone will seem to freeze for a moment before going to the new app or page.
With Voodoo lagfix, I have not seen this happen once, where with stock it happened all the time.
If you have rooted your phone and gone down the mod rabbit hole, lagfix is well worth it.
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Agreed, you might think the phone is fast now but when you install the lag fix you'll definately notice a difference.
It amazed me when I had to go back to stock (after soft bricking my phone) and I had to install rom manager from the market while everything was stock and it was crazy how slow it was.
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I installed a LagFix recently like I did months ago and saw no huge change in performance (barely any change really) This "lag" problem is about as overblown as it could be. Firefox runs as smoothly as it can (it's not that smooth, beta and needs 40MB of ram on my phone. JFD firmware was did have some lag issues though that we're a problem. Some serious lag was solved by a factory reset or by reloading the OS. The lagfix isn't worth the reduced app space or lesser reliability. If you have no problems with how your phone is running, don't bother with any hacks like that.
Some people randomly got major lag when updating from JFD to JI6. A data wipe solves it.. and they couldn't be happier.
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Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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N8ter is a troll, just read their posts. Where did I say "fresh reboot"? Nowhere!
N8ter said:
Gonma take our two vibrants to tmo and use my camcorder to rexord us using different phones after fresh reboots soon to shut up idiots like u.
The lag issue is far from overblown.
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Am interested in seeing said video.
Here is a video I took a while back. I'd be interested in seeing the lag. I know someone with a DROID X, behavior is exactly the same when opening apps. It was the same when I installed the lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1Q2qlRNwE
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
knurdle said:
I'm on stock JI6, non-rooted.
I think what I'm experiencing is considered lag.
It doesn't happen all the time but it is annoying when it does.
Sometimes it'll take 10 seconds for an app to launch.
It's especially bad if I have more than a couple of apps going at the same time.
Some of this can be worked around, keeping as few apps going as possible. I don't use a task killer, I just back out of apps instead of switching home and keeping the app in memory.
There are certain apps where it seems to be worse in.
The Facebook app is horrible to the point where I don't use it but I'm not sure if that's the app or the phone. I can't scroll a page without the phone locking up for 3-4 seconds. Clicking on anything takes about 3-5 seconds for it to register.
I'm pretty disappointed in Samsung in general with their software. The hardware is great, the software just sucks.
One of these days I'll get around to installing another ROM.
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You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
heygrl said:
You obviously have something else going on here.. Facebook runs with no problems on my phone. If you flash another rom everything will be wiped, just the same as what I said above. The FB app taking 10 seconds to load and locking up the phone is NOT normal behavior.
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I think you're right. It doesn't make sense that facebook would be so bad.
Everything else is pretty much okay.
I think I'm going to try one of the other ROMs. Just need to find some time.
Also, I'm dreading having to go through the whole process of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. I might have to try titanium backup so that I don't have to do that.

Slow Gallery in DK28?

I did some searches and didn't really come up with an answer on this one so forgive me if it has been asked and answered already.
After jumping to DK28 my gallery app loads extremely slowly. It literally drops 1 picture at a time in the folders on the screen. This combined with the very slow screen response is driving me nuts. Is there anything to fix this or should I just go back to DI18?
thanks for the help.
Yes it does. Froyo DK28 has been such a disappointment.
To add to this so do the:
App list
Web browsers
song list (which is ridiculous since I only reloaded three songs back to the card)
And i'm getting like 2 hours on the battery when all i'm doing is reading a kindle book
Stock DI18 to Stock DK28
I have not had this issue with DK28. The gallery loads up as fast as DI18.
I definately agree. The gallery app is hella slow with Dk28
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shellee said:
Yes it does. Froyo DK28 has been such a disappointment.
To add to this so do the:
App list
Web browsers
song list (which is ridiculous since I only reloaded three songs back to the card)
And i'm getting like 2 hours on the battery when all i'm doing is reading a kindle book
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I agree on the gallery, it is really slow. However, I am not seeing issues with any of the other things you listed.
same here. ver slow loading...
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I tried an app suggested on this forum called "Large Image Viewer". Its a decent app but you can't delete from it or move files or anything like that as in the Gallery. But it is fast and it does a decent job for viewing.
I am still thinking about going back to DI18.
How many pictures do you all have in your gallery, because the gallery is fast for me. I have about 300 total in a few different folders, with one folder having 207, and the rest spread out in 3 or 4 other folders.
Agreed...that's why i wish some devs would stick with 2.1 roms...2.2 only adds flash....but is slow as molasses.
I thought DK28 felt really slow too. The notification bar was noticeably slower, but so were SMS threads, app drawer, and gallery.
I ended up flashing back to DI18 stock for the GPS.... Mine was toast in DK28 and I really didn't feel like screwing around getting it to work. I'd rather sit it out and get the official Froyo update when it rolls
Everything was slower in DK28. The gallery was especially bad. I am back to DI18 as well.
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2.2 adds much more than just flash.
suzook said:
Agreed...that's why i wish some devs would stick with 2.1 roms...2.2 only adds flash....but is slow as molasses.
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I hope you folks realize that the DK28 was a leak and as such is not a finished 2.2 version. So you can't compare an unfinished 2.2 to a stock 2.1. For what the DK28 leak brought even in its unfinished state, i like it a lot, especially if you're running any of the customized DK28 (like Nebula ROM !!).
So if you don't like the performance of the leaked DK28, find a custom ROM and see the difference.
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I hope you folks realize that the DK28 was a leak and as such is not a finished 2.2 version. So you can't compare an unfinished 2.2 to a stock 2.1. For what the DK28 leak brought even in its unfinished state, i like it a lot, especially if you're running any of the customized DK28 (like Nebula ROM !!).
So if you don't like the performance of the leaked DK28, find a custom ROM and see the difference.
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I am fairly certain we all understand that. Or at least I hope so. I was using Nebula ROM 1.0.5 and it was very good for being DK28, but I still had horrible gallery lag, lousy multi-tasking, and other minor issues (none of which I attributed to Nebula). Yeah, for a leaked version it isn't bad...there have been much worse. But for me the performance hits were more than enough to justify going back to DI18 and waiting for something better. I look at it as though I would rather my car have an old engine that does everything quite well rather than a new engine that does more, but doesn't do it as well.
I agree it is super slow, my co-workers were ragging on me about the speed and how slow it was.
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I went back to DI18 as well. DK28 didn't show any of the expected speed increase for 2.2. Keyboard response felt a bit better long as there wasn't a lot of programs in the background. Wifi kept flaking out with dropped connections and giving me errors when I tried to turn it on through the notification bar.
I hope they optimize it soon and release cause I miss the youtube application. That thing was sweet.
LordLugard said:
I hope you folks realize that the DK28 was a leak and as such is not a finished 2.2 version. So you can't compare an unfinished 2.2 to a stock 2.1. For what the DK28 leak brought even in its unfinished state, i like it a lot, especially if you're running any of the customized DK28 (like Nebula ROM !!).
So if you don't like the performance of the leaked DK28, find a custom ROM and see the difference.
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+1. The gallery is slow. It seems there are those that do not take into consideration that this is a leak. Issues will come about when you deal with something that isnt intended as a RC.
That said, I originally went back to 2.1 after some of the issues with 2.2 that I was experiencing were getting to me. However, I tried 2.2 again the other day, and after letting my phone "adjust" for a few days the gallery seems improved slightly. Not as great as 2.1, but better, for me at least.
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I tried 2.2 again the other day, and after letting my phone "adjust" for a few days the gallery seems improved slightly. Not as great as 2.1, but better, for me at least.
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I do agree with this.
I am trying a 2.2 rom with ext4 and my gallery is still very slow too. However it is worse than it seems. Quite often I would try to watch a standard defenition tv show, which should be no problem, and the phone chokes on it and cant do it. I downloaded an app called watchdog and everytime it happened it said the gallery was using significant processor in the background, even though i never even opened the gallery. I could confirm this by force closing the gallery and videos would play again. I have never heard anybody here say anything like this happens to them but it has happened to me for every custom 2.2 rom I have tried. It happens for video of all types and every video player. I can only hope that if an official 2.2 rom ever comes out I will be able to watch video on it.
Also while I was trying to monitor this to figure out what was happening I downloaded system panel and it show my cpu activity as always having something they refer to as Nice, (in addition to System and User activity) and when they videos won't play that Nice activity is always going high keeping the total cpu usage maxed out so that it sits at around 1000 MHz.
tl;dr My gallery is very slow as well and if you watch a lot of video on a froyo rom and it gives you no trouble please help me.

Okay so I take it all back

I'm usually that guy that rolls his eyes at crying about 2.2 being released. I make jokes about your phone not automatically dispensing cash after you update it. I tell people to sit on it, it isn't that big of a deal.
Well I take it all back.
I've been running DK28 since it is was available on google (update zip). I switched to various versions of Bonsai, I've run TrulyEpic. I've been pleased with all of them.
The only problem I really have had was on all DK28 based installs, I end up with messaging locking up every 20 or so texts, and it will stick at Sending... until I reboot the phone, then it will send the queue after 45 seconds or so. No big deal really, just a nuisance, and I've seen many others with the issue.
Well two days ago I started getting the 'no audio' phone calls where you have to speakerphone on/off to hear anything. That I can't deal with. I know several have had it happen, but that is just something that can severely affect my productivity and must be stopped.
After fooling around with reflashes a bit I decided to go back to stock(ish). I odin'd back to DI18.
I figured CWM2.5, get my root explorer going again, organize everything how I want and just sit tight until we go official. Learned my fav GTG doesn't work correctly with 2.1; no problem, we'll use LauncherPro and suck it up some more. So I get everything organized how I like it and ready to go.
Crap this sucks. 2.2 really is nicer. Everything is more fluid. Menus are more welcoming in appearance. There is significantly less jitters moving between apps (I'm looking at you, Market). USB connectivity issues are resolved (I totally forgot how finicky 2.1 was with USB cord connecting).
And benchmarks? Yeah forget about them, the difference is depressing.
So yeah, sorry. We really do deserve 2.2 on this phone. It'd just been so long I forgot I'm still keeping 2.1 on it for now... possibly until update (2012 is just around the corner). I thought it might be nice to have a back-and-forth perspective for a change, as I haven't seen many people go back to 2.1 with intention of staying.
TL;DR:
Went back to 2.1
Misses 2.2
Still TL;DR:
Whaaaaaaa!
People keep saying 2.2 is faster. I've put 2 epics side by side one with DI18 one with DK28. Froyo is slower, not by a little, by a lot. Some small things operate a little faster, but in whole the entire user interaction is slower than eclair. I've tried several times, even swapped what phones had what OS, results never changed.
I went back to 2.1 and also think it is faster and a lot quicker to response. 2.2 seemed pretty sluggish to me. The 2.2 Roms were nice but I did not like Ext 4 so I just reverted back to 2.1
xjman said:
People keep saying 2.2 is faster. I've put 2 epics side by side one with DI18 one with DK28. Froyo is slower, not by a little, by a lot. Some small things operate a little faster, but in whole the entire user interaction is slower than eclair. I've tried several times, even swapped what phones had what OS, results never changed.
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See that's strange because I went back and forth several times for about 3 hours last night making comparisons and on mine, it was just the opposite :/
Agreed, there are lots of little things in Froyo that are faster (transitions and stuff), but those I discount because they aren't really indicative of the speed of the phone so much as the way the transition is designed to appear.
Over all though, much less lag between applications on 2.2... the Market being one of the worst to open showing obvious jitters etc.
Funny as it is, I can live with that stuff; the things that really bother me are the totally superfluous things like cosmetics and the simplicity of sticking a usb cable in and the phone figuring out what I want to do on it's own and not asking me to unplug it, change a setting, replug it, etc.
Anywho.... I'll see how long I stick it out
I've been back on stock for almost a week now after trying various ROMs, and I've decided to tough it out until an official update if one comes at all. It's not a bad experience at all for me.
been running Baked Snack 1.6(DI18) over here...... crazy fast! especially on wifi. i like the idea of building a house on a good foundation, so sticking with DI18 for now.
DK28 is a POS... My 2.1 run faster and smoother then any DK28 I've tried... IMO developers should save their energy till we get the official release.
Quantum is nice and fast I got a live wallpaper and it's doing well
I keep switching back and forth between 2.1 and 2.2 Nebula with Ext4 and I have to say that overall, 2.1 with xtreme kernal and Syndicate is just as fast with great battery than the froyo roms. Although Nebula is performing great for me and I do have the occasional glitch from time to time, I think I'm gonna roll with it at least for another week
Vertig0 said:
DK28 is a POS... My 2.1 run faster and smoother then any DK28 I've tried... IMO developers should save their energy till we get the official release.
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Here here....
My wife was on baked snack 1.6 and i was running one of the dk28 roms my phone was smoking her phone. just saying. much quicker load times, better gps and battery.
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Quantum is nice and fast I got a live wallpaper and it's doing well
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Quantum is buggy. Probably not the developers fault, as most of the issues are DK28, but I have been running Quantum 2.7 since it came out and I certainly wouldn't use the words "nice" or "fast" to describe it. Also, some of the bugs are absolutely not DK28. I am trying to be very careful not to insult the developer, but the issues that his rom has makes me want to do awful things to my phone sometimes.
I know how you feel OP. I can barely stand using my Epic anymore cause of the sickness it causes. I feel I've been cheated by just buying the phone, thinking that it was gonna be updated with some sort of quickness. It's just depressing knowing that when you spend that much money and are stuck behind 2 O/S upgrades. Hopefully we will get something soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I know how you feel OP. I can barely stand using my Epic anymore cause of the sickness it causes. I feel I've been cheated by just buying the phone, thinking that it was gonna be updated with some sort of quickness. It's just depressing knowing that when you spend that much money and are stuck behind 2 O/S upgrades. Hopefully we will get something soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The way people are around here the last month or so, I'm not sure if that first sentence is sincerity or sarcasm
I actually had no care or consideration for 2.2 when I bought the phone. Wasn't the least of my concerns. I just wanted the newest Sprint smartphone, and I couldn't use an Evo because A) needed a slide out keyboard for certain things that the popup wouldn't work and B) Evos are far more moisture sensitive due to their construction and it wouldn't have lasted a week for me.
Having tried 2.2 out though, it just feels more natural to me. Everyone is back and forth on the speed thing, and that really isn't it for me. 2.2 feels more natural in a lot of respects, both in form and function where 2.1 feels more half-completed. Like comparing a spiral staircase to an aluminum ladder.
My point was that it really does, as far as feeling like a completed unit, -make- the phone. There are glitches etc that aren't part of my consideration as I expect them to be Beta related. No doubt 2.1 is more solid and probably faster at some things than others... speed isn't really an issue for me unless you count the App lag and jitters... they suck.
But yeah, now that i've done side-by-sides of it, 2.2 (in a completed non Beta state) really is what the phone deserves. I'm hoping it does eventually happen.
It's nice to know that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side. I'm sitting at stock and just waiting for 2.2 to drop. I have no problem rooting (I did the G1 bunches), but I just don't want to go to the trouble of rooting to find a different set of problems. As best I can tell that's what would happen. Even CM Beta 0 is buggy right now. I'll take the devil I know at this point. Thanks for sharing your story.
How is Quantum buggy? I use Quantum 2.1 here without ext4 and I'm not getting any bugs. It's the best rom I've found to date. Froyo is way smoother on basically every single thing I've tried to do than the stock rom ever was.
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How is Quantum buggy? I use Quantum 2.1 here without ext4 and I'm not getting any bugs. It's the best rom I've found to date. Froyo is way smoother on basically every single thing I've tried to do than the stock rom ever was.
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When I tap the power button to put the phone to sleep, it turns off the screen, pauses a second or two, then turns the screen back on with the lockscreen being displayed. It does this about 50% of the time. No other DK28 rom has done this for me, so its not DK28 that is causing this. The wifi toggle in the notification drop down causes errors probably 30% of the time with Wifi never turning on. There are SMS issues where it will freeze and not send messages. Friends have received multiple messages from me over and over for some reason.
I could go on, but I won't.
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When I tap the power button to put the phone to sleep, it turns off the screen, pauses a second or two, then turns the screen back on with the lockscreen being displayed. It does this about 50% of the time. No other DK28 rom has done this for me, so its not DK28 that is causing this. The wifi toggle in the notification drop down causes errors probably 30% of the time with Wifi never turning on. There are SMS issues where it will freeze and not send messages. Friends have received multiple messages from me over and over for some reason.
I could go on, but I won't.
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The power off issue happens to me all the time, and I am running stock dk28, so I wouldnt rule out it being just quantum.
Go Ducks! Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G
i had the power button issue on dk28, quantam and bonsai, until i tried ext4. i havent had the issue since.
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The power off issue happens to me all the time, and I am running stock dk28, so I wouldnt rule out it being just quantum.
Go Ducks! Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G
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Interesting. I ran stock DK28 for a few weeks and it never happened to me. Maybe the bugs I thought were from Quantum were just DK28 being buggy. Its not that big of a deal, yet it infuriates me. Can't wait for official Froyo to be done. Please Samsung, please.

Who has gone back to DI18 after trying EB13?

Returned to stock DI18 yesterday after experiencing glaring issues within less than one day of using EB13. That's a testament to how bad it is. EB13 is definitely not ready for prime time and must've been rushed out with glaringly known issues to appease the public with a 2.2 release. The stability, functionality and feature loss are not worth whatever minor gains in EB13 Froyo 2.2 such as bluetooth voice dialing, in-browser Flash support, etc. For now DI18 is the way to go for stability (record 600+ hours uptime before forced reboot) and for the most part everything work or have work around. Froyo 2.2 update is a failure for Sprint in comparison to T-Mobile Vibrant because theirs actually made improvements and resolve issues.
Method of upgrade was ODIN to stock DI18, run Samsung update for EB13, boot into recover mode, cleared cache and applied factory defaults.
EB13 issues found within a short time span and was concerned what else might surface:
- Instability, phone shut down when clicking on a link in browser
- Video camera live view and recording lag. I use the video camera every day so it was glaringly obvious.
- Graphical glitch in browser when dragging page where a block of the page is offset. This is glaringly obvious too and surprised it got by QA.
- Samsung update hung towards the end on second flash, good thing for old reliable stand-alone ODIN
You should try ODINing to EB13 rather than the Samsung method, most users so far have had a nearly flawless EB13 experience
I think it really depends on the exact methods people are using to upgrade. I haven't had any glaring issues, just some small things that existed on the stock 2.1, like weird button miss presses, some keyboard lag. Just waiting for a good EB13 rom before I say anything is defunct.
I wouldnt go all the way back to eclair....try if u don't like eb13 use dk28 I haven't gone to eb 13 but if I don't like how eb13 rides im going to dk28 especially now with a OC kernal
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If I only had one Epic, I would stay on di18, or a custom ROM based on di18. Since I have 2 Epics, one will stay on di18 and the other will continue to beta test Froyo ROMs. There is little progress between dk28 and EB13. Most of the bugs from dk28 still exist in the latest release. I really hope our devs here can clean this mess up.
Im sad to say. But I just did. The low fps on low light video recording killed EB13 for me. Useless since I go out and do pegan nightime rituals and record the clan meeting. Now instead of having awesome night time videos off me wearing my long night hooded warlock trechcoat, it looks like a disaster video of blurr. How can I continue my rituals with this shat samsung!? Foorrrr shaaaammme!
At first I went back to a rooted/customized DI18. Unfortunately, the damn system update message kept popping up saying that an update was available and needed to install. I eventually got sick of the message and flashed the phone to Froyo using Odin. What do I have to remove to prevent the system update from trying to update my rooted phone?
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At first I went back to a rooted/customized DI18. Unfortunately, the damn system update message kept popping up saying that an update was available and needed to install. I eventually got sick of the message and flashed the phone to Froyo using Odin. What do I have to remove to prevent the system update from trying to update my rooted phone?
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You can delete the system updater.apk in the system/app directory. This will prevent your phone from downloading and prompting you to update.
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Weird, I used the update.zip method of updating my rooted epic from stock and have only had small annoying problems that were today outweighed by the single fact that the gps now locks instantly to within ten feet...indoors.
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Color me lucky?
Used Samsung method after returning to stock. Battery, GPS et al rock solid on EB13. Enjoyed Bonsai, but am now "in the groove" - custom ROM had some nice details, but gaps as well. EB13 is a hi function 4G smarter phone for me!
I did. After the latest issue of losing 4G for 2 days straight I reinstalled eb13 and nothing. I went back to DI18 and 4G came right up, what a shocker.
EDIT: I'm running on midnight ROM eb13 4.0 and with the new wired tether apk posted in the themes and apps area, my phone is running flawlessly! I just had to correct this post.
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I went back. I record videos all the time and that's what killed it for me. Even in still-camera mode the pictures look almost pastel, hate it.
I'll be going back to Eclair. I really didn't like anything froyo had to offer besides the updated youtube app (if I can't get that on 2.1) and flash support.
I just got froyo this morning OTA, went to class, came home and flashed it again hoping to fix my main problems. Didn't work. I just got done wiping my phone, flashing DI18, reboot, flashing EB13, and still it's still messed up.
I really don't care about the camcorder deal because I don't use it often but the laggy sleep/wake and no auto correct are really annoying for me. I only use my epic for browsing here and there and mainly texting/music. Now the audio sounds bad and on top of that my dictionary vanished. I don't even know if anyone else is having this problem because no one seems to say anything about it. Not to mention they changed the call log (the little phone button) and you can't toggle through ringtone volume>vibrate>silent any more with the volume buttons.
Gonna go back to DI18, root, remove system updater(thanks for that tip^), fix the yamaha calibutil thing, and sit happily while I wait for a stable(r) release. What a pain.
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What a pain.
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Yup! Sick of it.
Well, I'm done messing with this phone. It has been in a desk drawer for 2 months waiting for an upgrade. Now that it officially has Froyo, I can advertise it as such and sell it on eBay. It's back to the EVO for me until my contract renewal comes up. From there, who knows. I loved the screen but hate the bugs!
ansong said:
Weird, I used the update.zip method of updating my rooted epic from stock and have only had small annoying problems that were today outweighed by the single fact that the gps now locks instantly to within ten feet...indoors.
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I used that method too and I get gps locks in about 3 SECONDS now.....before I couldnt even get the nav to work...(Turn by turn voice directions were completely gone)
However EB13 is kinda buggy....nothing major yet just a lot of scrolling glitches and such.
im gonna wait for some eb13 roms before abandoning ship
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Im sad to say. But I just did. The low fps on low light video recording killed EB13 for me. Useless since I go out and do pegan nightime rituals and record the clan meeting. Now instead of having awesome night time videos off me wearing my long night hooded warlock trechcoat, it looks like a disaster video of blurr. How can I continue my rituals with this shat samsung!? Foorrrr shaaaammme!
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aaaahhhhhhahahaha!
Sorry, someone had to say it.
In all seriousness, does anyone know how I can get the froyo gmail and that cool call notification bar option onto di18?
nicholishen said:
aaaahhhhhhahahaha!
Sorry, someone had to say it.
In all seriousness, does anyone know how I can get the froyo gmail and that cool call notification bar option onto di18?
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Buy another phone.....preferably one not made by Samsung.
eb13 was anything but rushed lol
This is pretty sad. All of the people in this forum griped and moaned and yelled about not having froyo, now that they got it they dont want it. Bunch of kids
Now I dont profess to be an expert, but the low light thing is there, it is a bug and im sure they will fix it. is it a deal breaker? OMG no it isnt.

Beginning to hate my tab

I have a Verizon SGT and am starting to hate it. It constantly freezes up for a few seconds when loading a page in the browser and then when it finishes loading and I double tap to zoom, it zooms in and everything is fuzzy for a few seconds (freezes again also) before everything is sharp. None of my friends have a tab so I'm not sure if this is normal for our tabs.
My tab is rooted (z4) and I've tried sgstools and OCLF to try to fix it, but nothing has helped so far. I've also done a factory reset but it doesn't really work because apps are all still there. If this is normal behavior, will flashing a new ROM help? What ROM would you recommend for a Verizon tab? My firmware is stock dj11. I've flashed many ROMs on my Moto Droid, so I'm not opposed to a new ROM if that's all it will take.
Roger
use miren browser, it's on market
come back after you try it and give some feedbacks
It's not just the browser, but the browser freeze is the most common freeze for my tab. I've tried other browsers and read about Miren but haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot but it won't solve the general OS freezes.
Roger
96cobra said:
I have a Verizon SGT and am starting to hate it. It constantly freezes up for a few seconds when loading a page in the browser and then when it finishes loading and I double tap to zoom, it zooms in and everything is fuzzy for a few seconds (freezes again also) before everything is sharp. None of my friends have a tab so I'm not sure if this is normal for our tabs.
My tab is rooted (z4) and I've tried sgstools and OCLF to try to fix it, but nothing has helped so far. I've also done a factory reset but it doesn't really work because apps are all still there. If this is normal behavior, will flashing a new ROM help? What ROM would you recommend for a Verizon tab? My firmware is stock dj11. I've flashed many ROMs on my Moto Droid, so I'm not opposed to a new ROM if that's all it will take.
Roger
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I would have to say that's not normal. If I had to wait "a few seconds" for the thing to get it's act together every time I did something the least bit intensive, such as loading a web page with ANY browser, I would have exchanged it for one that worked correctly. You may want to consider that. My Tab isn't as smooth as my iPad but it's pretty close. Yours should be too. Custom roms and the like should be a distant option because, just like with phones, not one of them is ever 100% reliable.
Is it possible that these kind of things (lags and freezes) are caused by too little free memory? My Tab seems to run better and faster when I delete a few device based apps. Of course I screw things up again by adding new apps, lol.
I had the same problems AFTER I tried OCLF; Try undoing OCLF and anything related to it.
Install a good rom and OCd kernel. Mine runs better than any other Android device I've owned.
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Install a good rom and OCd kernel. Mine runs better than any other Android device I've owned.
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That doesn't help. You shouldn't need to overclock to have a decent experience. My Verizon Tab worked just fine right out of the box without any of the pausing the OP has mentioned. Overclocking is a bandaid over a problem that isn't going to go away if you ignore it. Exchange the device for one that works correctly and then overclock it to make it better. Besides, if the CPU can't handle an overclocked speed then the OP is really screwed.
This sounds like a similar scenario to me. I had a stock euro tab and was starting to hate it as well until I flashed it with a new rom. Now it's awesome and what you'd expect it to be in the first place. I dunno why the telcos bloat their stock roms up with so much ****. Rooting is not going to do much for your situation.
Get rid of the stock rom and you'll never look back. If you are after a bloatless, but stock like experience, then use Rotohammer JMIv2 and make sure you convert the file system to EXT4.
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This sounds like a similar scenario to me. I had a stock euro tab and was starting to hate it as well until I flashed it with a new rom. Now it's awesome and what you'd expect it to be in the first place. I dunno why the telcos bloat their stock roms up with so much ****. Rooting is not going to do much for your situation.
Get rid of the stock rom and you'll never look back. If you are after a bloatless, but stock like experience, then use Rotohammer JMIv2 and make sure you convert the file system to EXT4.
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+ 1 Also check your memory usage.
I got ATT tab and a Dell Streak. Both of them are doing that. Inresponsive for a few seconds, but if I poke the screen repeatedly, the app or browser will close by itself or the thing just reboot on it own. Maybe it's Android glitch? Start to hate Android now.
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I got ATT tab and a Dell Streak. Both of them are doing that. Inresponsive for a few seconds, but if I poke the screen repeatedly, the app or browser will close by itself or the thing just reboot on it own. Maybe it's Android glitch? Start to hate Android now.
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You'd better go by an iPad. That'll fix your issues.
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Since recovery and download mode is pretty reliable on this device, i took the courage to mod the tab and of course It wasn't a short process to achieve it, i tried every rom and kernel.
So my suggestion, try the overcome. It's so snappy you could not go wrong by switching to that ROM and kernel. I always have the GPS, Bluetooth, HSDPA turned on and on top of that i usually browsing and hearing music or playing some games while i'm in the car. Before i switched to overcome, multi tasking is sluggish, it would lags if messages, emails or tweets kicked in and the music would jitter. And now all is smooth as butter.
Although i have the oc version, i usually limit it on 1 Ghz underclocked depends on how long i would be outside. Battery life is still good, around 4-5 hours to reach 50% with GPS, HSPDA and Bluetooth always turned on and some browsing, plus some gaming, GPSing and calling.
All thanks to the developers, who know what they themselves and people want! Cheers!
Screw the ipad. No flash is like the year before the year 2000 man!
Be careful with the specifics of the advice you are getting here. You have a CDMA tab and these GSM tabbers kernel and ROM suggestions will bork your tab if you do what they did verbatim. The basic advice is good, if you are comfortable with flashing a kernel and working through the issues it entails then you will be rewarded for your effort with a smoothly operating device. Right now your best (only?) option will be the KhasMek kernel available in the Galaxy Tab Android Development section of the forum.
The kernel did enough for me, so I have not tried the ROM yet myself as I have not felt the need.
Hit up boush / khasmek he made my tablet lovely
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