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today i was cleaning the pool, since the leather pouch only clips on and doesnt actually have lashes to put the belt through it got lose and fell into the pool, fully submerged. it took me about 20 seconds to get to it and get it back out.
as soon as i had it out i saw it restart by itself. immediately took out the battery, put it in front of the heater and had it there for about 3 hours.
turned it back on and it works just fine. everything is try.
i guess thats nice to know, lol.....seems to be very water friendly....lol
we will see how it goes the next days, there is always the option Asurion.......
Wow, amazing! Please keep us updated through-out the lifetime of this phone. I am very curious.
I would really recommend taking it apart and letting it sit out for a day or two to completely dry out. There is bound to still be some water in the phone. But it sounds like you got real lucky
distilled water
If this happened to me I would soak it in distilled water then blow out with air compressor, then repeat
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If this happened to me I would soak it in distilled water then blow out with air compressor, then repeat
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Bad idea. The phone works as is. Clearly the water didn't penetrate very far into the device. If you soak it in water,distilled or otherwise,your going to be worse off. If you had a little water inside,then your best bet is to dissasemble it,and clean the boards with 90% isopropyl alcohol and let it sit in a warm place for a few days. Do not get this on the display however,it will destroy it. (I destroyed a laptop panel once by using to much IPA on a paper towel so I speak from had experience)
the phone still works
just like a charm........everything is tested......all day long.........its amazing.....
i guess this is the first titan that can swim.......anybody got the telephone number for the guinness book??? lol....just kiddin
Good to hear. People usually over-react to dropping electronics in water. Water does not damage electronics just because its there, and that seems to be what people think. The water would have to cover a full surface area of open contacts and create a short which destroy's some component or the whole device.
Its like the peeing on the electric fence thing. You don't get shocked unless you are close enough to create a complete path for electricity to flow.
Anyway, good to hear your phone survived, but its no miracle. Its probably more due to good hardware and EMC design that sealed the components well enough.
Yeah it's usually not the submersion that damages stuff it's either shorting out or damage during the fall. A few winters ago a buddy of mine was bringing some stuff back home for winter break (college) and he forgot to take his computer out of the bed of the pickup truck. It got snowed and rained on all night long. He took it in the house and disassembeled the entire thing to let it dry. Put it back together and it fired right up...
I dropped my old 6700 in a bloody mary once, I did the same thing, took out the battery, and put it in the sun for a day it worked like a charm...the key is pulling the battery ASAP...water is "pretty much" harmless without electricity, it's when those two mix that you're gonna have trouble...
Hi folks!
Just wanted to post this, as it really surprised me.
I went to a swim the other day (about 2 weeks ago) and forgot, that I had my HD2 in my Pocket.
It was about 0.5 hrs under water. Afterwards I yelled... then took out the battery and tried to dry it with a hairdryer.
It did not help. It stayed dead (The paper indicator are in a bright pink now)
Then about 1 week later I finally found the time to buy a new battery. I put it in and then... it worked.
After about 5 or 6 hrs using time, the last bit of water in the screen (a nice 3D effect ;-) dryed and I have absolutely no difference whatsoever. Working like a charm, no problem.
Maybe it helps so.
JoC
lucky you ;-)
Wow, happy you. Don't try this at home
lol, how many hd2's have been sold? thats a one in that many chance occurance, and no mistake.
just wow
Wow I cant believe it still works. Id wanna shoot myself!
If you get your phone wet don't use a hair dryer to dry it coz it overheats metal parts so the circuits melt.
In the words of homer simpson DOH! cant believe it worked after
as long as the internal complete dry, u shouldn't have problem to turn it back on.
The best thing you can do with a phone that has been for a swim (completely submerged in water) is to pull the battery off and soak it in isopropyl for 30 min or so. This should get the water out of it. Then leave it out to dry until completely dry.
Iven if a wet phone works initially, it generally wont be long before the components begin to corrode. The isophopyl will drive out any water and then completely evaporate.
u are one lucky guy lol
very very lucky, my friend sneezed on his and it stopped working...
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Sentinel196 said:
The best thing you can do with a phone that has been for a swim (completely submerged in water) is to pull the battery off and soak it in isopropyl for 30 min or so. This should get the water out of it. Then leave it out to dry until completely dry.
Iven if a wet phone works initially, it generally wont be long before the components begin to corrode. The isophopyl will drive out any water and then completely evaporate.
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Even better, since this phone already soaked for half an hour, with the battery out soak and then flush it well with distilled water to remove all the minerals that could cause corrosion, then stick it in a container of desiccant or rice if you're cheap
Alcohol especially soaked that long could be harsh on adhesives, surfaces and components in the phone.
Water itself isnt bad for electronics, its the minerals that are in the average tap, pool, beach, lake water. Distilled water has none of these minerals. Also any liquid tends to damage things like the camera and LCDs where it can get between the glass covering and LCD and backlight causing water spots to develop that are hard are just about impossible to remove.
If you do go the isopropyl route, id say do a very quick flush with it, and then make sure you are using 90%, usually in a red labeled bottle at the drug store, normal isopropyl is something like 65% alcohol and the remainder is water!
Really the best option for either route is to completely disassemble the phone then flush and dry while disassembled, but i know thats hard for some people to do without completely damaging it cosmetically. Remove things like the LCD, Camera, and speakers as these could be further damaged by subsequent soakings in either water or alcohol. These parts may need to be completely replaced depending on the existing damage
im supprised no one has asked this but,
HOW DO YOU GO FOR A SWIM WITH YOUR HD2??????
Did you go fully clothed or something? or do you normally keep your HD2 in the pockets of your swim shorts?
Me too
Hi,
I also took my leo swiming. Now loud speaker isnt working. can anyone help where i can get one?
Oooo, that's interesting...for your next test...microwave the phone for half an hour.
Yes.. I had it in my swim shorts. Before I went to the pool, I thought: "Be aware of that phone, don´t forget it in the pockets..." -> That didn´t help...
Yeah, our HD2 is a great phone.
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Oooo, that's interesting...for your next test...microwave the phone for half an hour.
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xD hilarious
and distilled water won't screw up your device? so lets say, if I want to clean my screen randomly, I should use that?
So I dropped my N1 in water. Took out the battery as soon as possible then I dried what I could with a towel.
After this I tried hours of the rice method (putting my N1 in a bag of dry rice to dry it out). And I was able to successfully boot up my phone again, almost everything works fine but the digitizer/touch screen has some issues.
The rightest side of the screen, about an inch worth is completely unresponsive, so if I load up my app drawer and try to click anything on the right it won't work at all just so you know what I mean.
What can I do about this? Is this a simple fix? Do I just need a new digitizer? Or is it something else?
Water damage can affect anything. Luckily the digitizer is only $25 and there are tons of videos on how to disassemble the phone.
Sounds to me like you've still got a short somewhere inside your N1. Here are some suggestions.
1. Rice is a desiccant, it takes a LONG TIME to actually dry-out something like the internals of a phone. If you can part with the phone for that long, I'd suggest leaving it in the rice for more like 72hours!!
2. If you can't give it that much time, and you've got some tools, skills and a willingness to take apart your N1? Then search youtube for "nexus one disassembly" and take it apart, being extra sure to manually dab dry all areas possible (especially in the digitizer area as you've stated issues around there).
3. Finally, if those steps don't work, you're looking at a digitizer replacement. Which, if you've already taken apart your N1 from step #2, will be an easier swap out for you to handle.
My N1 too went for an unwanted splash as well. Total submersion for a good few seconds as I had to fish it out. Water had gotten into the screen, EVERYTHING was wet.
I had the tools and the mindset that my N1 was likely dead anyway so taking it apart couldn't hurt any further. So I took it completely apart, used a paper towel to dab dry everything possible that I could. Then I left everything out on the table overnight to dry.
Next morning I put it all back together and to my delighted surprise everything worked!
Our N1s are troopers! I'm confident you can bring yours back to full life!
Good luck!
Thanks for the responses!
I will definitely try taking it apart and I'll post back soon on the outcome, if I get lazy though I'll just buy a new digitizer.
How is it possible that water doesn't hurt your N1? It's completely incredible. Few years ago i had a samsung player (my son in fact) that was in contact with water (no immersion!!) and after drying for a week (air then hair-drier!) it was impossible to get it on again.
Is N1 that strong!! So lucky you are!!
abccg said:
Thanks for the responses!
I will definitely try taking it apart and I'll post back soon on the outcome, if I get lazy though I'll just buy a new digitizer.
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Well if you buy a new digitizer you're gonna have to take it apart anyway haha.
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So I dropped my N1 in water. Took out the battery as soon as possible then I dried what I could with a towel.
After this I tried hours of the rice method (putting my N1 in a bag of dry rice to dry it out). And I was able to successfully boot up my phone again, almost everything works fine but the digitizer/touch screen has some issues.
The rightest side of the screen, about an inch worth is completely unresponsive, so if I load up my app drawer and try to click anything on the right it won't work at all just so you know what I mean.
What can I do about this? Is this a simple fix? Do I just need a new digitizer? Or is it something else?
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Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
Seems like there is still a short in your cellphone and i would recommend you call your manufacturer for this. Anyway, it's risky to repair a cellphone by yourself.
A little over a year ago I washed my Nexus One in the washing machine. Extra bleach, long cycle with an extra rinse cycle since it was a bunch of dirty clothing.
I remembered it was in my pocked when I went to remove my clothing, I was sure it was dead.
I pulled the battery and put the phone on the dry air vent of my dehumidifier for two days. The vent blew warm, completely dry air directly into the open back of my phone.
I popped the battery back in and it's been working like new ever since. The camera colors are ever so slightly off, however.
Let the phone dry out before you try to turn it back on.
Recently had the same issue. In my case was a bit easier.
What I did - removed back cover, battery, SIM, sd-card..
Switched my laptop and loaded it with compiling linux kernel. Then decoding HD video with handbrake. The aim was to get a constant flow of warm air (abt 70 degrees Celcius). And I put my phone close to vent fan out of my laptop. It is not overheating too much (like you can with air dryer).
I had a water damage as well, sliped with phone into the while geocaching. The salt walter wasn't good for my phone... :-(
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Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
Seems like there is still a short in your cellphone and i would recommend you call your manufacturer for this. Anyway, it's risky to repair a cellphone by yourself.
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.
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Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.
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Rice is actually a very good thing to use just like cyberstoic says. It sucks the water into the rice and gets it out of the device.
The reason he listed for the hair dryer is valid, but it isn't the main reason. The main reason is that the hair dryer will just cause the water to evaporate, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the super humid air will leave the device, so as soon as it cools back down, you will still have that moisture in there.\
This is why rice or other desiccants (like all those silica gel packets that come with a lot of packaging) are used. They actually pull the moisture out of the device.
Rice worked for me when my N1 spent a night soaking in seltzer. (not completely submerged, but enough to get a big batch under the screen) But first I used a vacuum to suck out as much of the seltzer as I could. Then I put it in rice for about 30 hours.
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.
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What about the dirt in the rice? If you use rice to dry those water inside, the dirt with rice will melt with the water inside and make damage to your elements.
If you use hair dryer in a proper way, it can dry your water inside without causing any damage. Have seen after-sale repair workers do this many times.
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If you use hair dryer in a proper way, it can dry your water inside without causing any damage. Have seen after-sale repair workers do this many times.
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Did you read my response at all? While it is possible for the hair dryer to fix the problem, it can also cause the problem to remanifest itself if that humid air doesn't actually leave the casing. That is the point of the rice. Dirt in the rice is irrelevant. We aren't talking about that much water, and the phone is still in its casing. The rice is just removing the moisture from the air.
i put it in the water and after one minutes i took it out and push the home button i saw downgrading mode on screen and then i took the battery out and drying the battery.
now my S5 won't work.
i tried some way such push home + up volume + power with each other but didn't work , also push power button for more than 30 seconds yet it didn't work anyway.
i used charger cable on my device nothing happen and when i push the power button it produced some with noise.
i need your help
You most likely have a fake s5. I swim with my s5 and I have absolutely no problems.
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Putting electronics in water isn't a good idea. The S5 is rated as water resistant, not water proof. Great protection against accidental exposure to fresh water. If the battery cover is slightly ajar or anything is loose, water will get in. There is no immunity against doing ill advised and inherently hazardous things.
Anyway. Genuine phone or not, it sounds like the OP got water in his phone. First, take the battery out and do not try to turn it on every so often to impatiently check whether it has recovered. Every time you do, you run a real risk of permanent damage. At the very least, you need allow abundant time for it to dry out, which will be a long time if you don't disassemble it for decent access /airflow /allowance for evaporation.
Also any professional repair would also include, at a minimum, gently scrubbing the electronics with a solvent to remove mineral deposits from the water. It is very common that a phone will have serious issues even after it has 100% dried due to conductive minerals left behind after water exposure.
On the positive side, phones will usually survive water immersion with zero to minimal permanent damage, provided that you resist powering them before they are cleaned and dried. If you are proficient with electronics, give serious consideration to disassembling the phone and cleaning /drying it properly. You would need a heatgun to detach the glued in place screen assembly. Most components are not accessible without this preliminary step.
If disassembling the phone sounds daunting, then you should get a professional repair. But at the very least, allow the phone to dry a considerable time before trying to turn it on again. Impatience may well result in permanent damage. Placing it in a sealed container, with silica gel to remove water vapour would help dry it a lot faster. Rice would be a distant, distant second and considerably less effective approach. Do not put the phone in direct contact with loose rice. Just put the rice in the same container.
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Hello,
my Redmi Note 7 fell in the water of our harbor and it took ~15min until we were able to find it. The water was ~1 meter deep.
I put the phone in rice for 4 days strait away. At some point the phone started but was discharged the next day. After that the phone did not start or charged anymore but showed a battery symbol.
We took the phone apart and cleaned everything with pure alcohol. We replaced the battery too. I took a few measurements: There is 5V on the battery test point and 4.8 V too.
At some point the phone showed 80% while it was off and attached to a charger today.
At the moment the screen goes on for a very short time ~1-2 sec. when powered on but does not charge when connected to a charger.
What could I do to bring it back to live?
I mean there are working parts in it as it looks like.
It's DOA.
The only way to save it was to pull the battery asap (in salt water even that might not be fast enough), disassemble, flush liberally with warm RO water, flush, flush, then flush with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to absorb the water, dry for at least 2 days with a fan in a warm room.
Water is the best solvent for brine...
What has happened is water/alcohol insoluble corrosion has formed on contacts and any exposed conductors. BGA chipsets, flat pack ICs, power circuits and PCB traces may be shorted out completely especially V+/ground rails. Once this happens it's beyond salvage... sorry.
You could try a pulling all connectors and dumping the whole lot minus the battery and frame into a mild acid bath for an hour then rinsing throughly with RO water, then isopropyl alcohol, drying etc. Which acid, concentration, and time? Probably very diluted sulphuric acid. It's a mix of copper, silver, tin and more alloys you're trying to clean.
That's the only way to remove the corrosion if present. The acid could easily destroy exposed (no conformal coating) fine pitch PCB traces. As long as any corrosion remains it will continue to corrode.
I don't give it a good chance of working...
Oh man that sounds bad. I thought there would be a chance as it was more sweet water than salt water and the phone worked after the incident for a short time.
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Oh man that sounds bad. I thought there would be a chance as it was more sweet water than salt water and the phone worked after the incident for a short time.
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Disconnect the battery.
You can try disassembling it again. Pull all ribbon cables and connectors. Place in warm/hot RO water, clean contact surfaces the best you can with a toothbrush or a ultrasonic gum cleaner if you have one. Try to get some water flow under the BGA chipsets.
Replace the RO water at least 2 times and leave in it for a couple hours*.
Inspect contacts, surface mount devices, traces, etc with good light and a optic aid for signs of corrosion damage afterward. If none if seen proceed to the 99% isopropyl alcohol flush and dry completely. It might work....
*water may get in between the display and screen. If so it will leave a residue upon evaporation. This must be purge before reassembly. A vacuum drying chamber can be used. Use your best judgement how the proceed with the washing phase depending on this issue.
If it's sealed, no worries otherwise you may wish to modify the washing phase to be less invasive by limiting time and exposure to the display.
The contacts on the display is what really needs to be cleaned...
Today I found the phone is alive indeed. After lots of cleaning with alcohol it came back to live. Everything work.
The only issue I have is water (or alcohol) in the display now. This causes little clouds of brightness and the many random touch events.
Its there something smart I could do to get rid of this last bit of water except a vacuum chamber. It might vanish if I heat up the phone for several hours near/on the heating with a towel in between (not to hot).
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Today I found the phone is alive indeed. After lots of cleaning with alcohol it came back to live. Everything work.
The only issue I have is water (or alcohol) in the display now. This causes little clouds of brightness and the many random touch events.
Its there something smart I could do to get rid of this last bit of water except a vacuum chamber. It might vanish if I heat up the phone for several hours near/on the heating with a towel in between (not to hot).
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It's never a good idea to clean everything with solvents such as isopropyl. It can weaken many of the adhesives used in electronic devices, and it will ruin your display panel. If you have access to a temperature chamber, you can try removing the battery, putting the device in a bag of rice or desiccant beads, and let it heat soak for about 2 hours at +60c.
Chances are your display and touch panel are ruined, however. NEVER soak a device in alcohol or any other solvent.
Well the alcohol "everywhere" was an accident and bad luck. It happened while I cleaned just the last parts and connections. I will try to remove the battery and put the device with rice somewhere warm with a thermometer to check the temperature.
Thanks for the help. I will report what happens next.
I am able to get the few messages and photos from the day it fell in the water now. So I am near a 100% data (backup from ~2am + current backup) rescued scenario very soon. I am very happy to have reach this point so far anyway.
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Well the alcohol "everywhere" was an accident and bad luck. It happened while I cleaned just the last parts and connections. I will try to remove the battery and put the device with rice somewhere warm with a thermometer to check the temperature.
Thanks for the help. I will report what happens next.
I am able to get the few messages and photos from the day it fell in the water now. So I am near a 100% data (backup from ~2am + current backup) rescued scenario very soon. I am very happy to have reach this point so far anyway.
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The accident was dropping it in brine water... without through rinsing it be a goner. Even with rinsing it still may eventually die.
Rice does not work. Heat does*.
Be patient.
Warm dry room with fan on it.
The problem now isn't drying but the residue left behind as the water/alcohol evaporates. Try using centrificule force to move the water although capillary may prevent this.
Try drying on end.
Careful use of a shop vac might work in a dust free room but could destroy the display. Use best judgement. At the worst if you just let it dry it probably will leave some water marks, maybe not.
*raise heat to 110-120°F if it's not drying after 2 days. Heat displaces water ie hot boxes used in tropics.
The phone worked perfectly with clouds of water in the display.
After I put the phone in a warm place to get rid of the last few parts of this moisture the screen was black and stayed this way.
Now the lowest part of the phone gets very hot when switched on. Its hot enough to burn your fingers. The funny thing is that with "scrcpy" I am still able to reach the screen and the OS works perfectly as normal. I guess the lower PCB with the USB-C is the part which gets this warm.
I am angry for myself as I could have lived with the few clouds in the display as a reminder to keep water and smartphones away from each other.
Better than broken ribs...
You would need to carefully separate the display from the glass and clean both. Probably bonded with a heat adhesive.
The hot running suggest the phone isn't completely dry or has damage. Pull the connectors off the port pcb and inspect both them and that board for visible corrosion damage.
Reexamine the mobo's power section for same.
It's all probably academic as it likely will fail completely in time. Rust never sleeps.