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I seen some review but still no decent comparisons for the nexus 4 to other device so can you please tell me which has has:
(Since i did not yet see the nexus in personal so i only have the following device as reference.)
Better camera(quality and details of the picture): Nexus 4 vs galaxy s1 (i9000), n4 vs s3, n4 vs note 2 (can you rate each 1 to 10 10 as highest quality and detail of picture)
SCreen/display: Nexus 4 vs note 2's display? (which is sharper and which is pleasing to use for games and videos?)
Gaming/speed: (which is faster and play games smoothly Nexus 4 vs note 2, Nexus 4 vs galaxy s3
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994157
So I've been playing with this Moto X which I love. The camera, however is terrible. Any comparisons between the Moto X camera the S4 Google Edition?
I have played with the HTC One before and love it, but hears the S4 camera is one of the best.
If the S4 camera is much better than the X, I may just get the Google Edition S4.
Thanks for any advice.
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why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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Dude what matters you, the benchmarks or the performance?
Performance yeah.. So why care for benchmarks?
What you get from the numbers?? Nothing.. So let them go to heck.!!
What benchmark do you get with Xperia sp? Bwt I will give more with my N4..
Why on earth do you buy phone base on benchmark score?
You can search for benchmark results of both devices on Google.
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Thermal throttle.
Xperia Sp Outshines nexus 4
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
CellSmart! said:
My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
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The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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xfrancis14 said:
The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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Oops than, nexus 4 might be a crap, hehe:laugh:
Even moto g bypasses it in terms of benchmarking
Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.
To sum it up:
- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.
- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.
- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.
However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...
Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?
Source: AndroidAuthority
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.
#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.
#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)
What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.
(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)
Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions
S Pen
MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)
IR blaster
Fingerprint scanner
The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
italia0101 said:
All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
Far_SighT said:
Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
Luxferro said:
Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is NOT THE SAME as Moto X 2014 camera.
N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/
Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299
However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/
So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.
Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software"
agroan05 said:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.
I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.
I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.
I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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agroan05 said:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
Once again, the Galaxy Note 4's GPU performance line up quite closely with what we expect from the Adreno 420. However, due to the higher 1440p resolution the performance improvements from the Adreno 420 are relatively small or none at all unless the application renders at 1080p.
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You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
msal said:
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.]
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I had the OnePlus One and the Moto X 2014, which is what the Nexus 6 design is based on.
The primary reason why I sold both of my OnePlus are:
-Design
-Signal/call quality.
The phone wasn't comfortable to use due to it's design. The signal quality simply wasn't as good. It take a while for me to drive to work and I tend to stream YouTube podcasts over LTE while driving, I didn't get very good LTE signal with the OPO so I had to use 3G most of the time, even then it wasn't as smooth experience as the Moto X 2013 and 2014.
The OnePlus is a great device for the money no doubt, but Motorola design is my favorite at this point, it's wasn't that much smaller than the OPO but it's so much more comfortable to hold and use. The OnePlus have this somewhat "sharp" edges and it wasn't comfortable in the pocket.
The Nexus 6 uses the same Sony sensor as the OPO, while some people didn't think highly of it, I personally got amazing results from it, especially if you know how to tune your shutter speed and ISO level. I love the 4K DCI recording on it too, which unfortunately will not be available on the Nexus 6.
Also you have to deal with yellow screen issue which I got, I had to put the phone under UV light to fix it, but it didn't completely remove it. And if you have issues and need to do an RMA, I heard the experience wasn't very good. Motorola have some complains too, but not the at the same level as OPO.
I like what OnePlus have to offer so I'll look forward to their next phone. But honestly, I already know that most likely it will also be based off whatever the next Oppo flagship phone is, except with corner cuts, and it's probably going to be very big with capacitive buttons, which is not for me. The Nexus 6 is too big for me too, but I'm mainly interested in it to use as a tablet and back up phone, not as my daily driver.
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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The N4 and N6 are running over 50% of the iPhone at a huge increase in pixels pushed......
They need to show apples and apples. If they all ran at 1080 the N4 and N6 would run circles around the iPhone 6
Luxferro said:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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Actually maybe half of those GPU benchmarks are "off screen". Which should remove any resolution handicap.
However, you are right. I discussed the SOC's themselves and then switched to device performance.
But the A8 is a serious chip. It competes with and possibly beats the 805 outright even when resolution is taken out of the equation.
No mention of Droid Turbo/Moto X Play?
This is looking like it will be the spec king of 2014.
Same specs as N6, but smaller screen (5.2), bigger battery (3900mah), and better camera (21mp)
Hi all
This thread is for discussions regarding the overall design features or hardware specifications of the Motorola Moto Maxx. Feel free to comment on performance compared with previous devices.
Specifications:
Display - OLED, 5.2 inches, 1440 x 2560 pixels (~565 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU - Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
GPU - Adreno 420
RAM - 3 GB
Memory - 64 GB
Camera - 21 MP, (5248 x 3936), autofocus, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 2 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 3900 mAh
Dimensions - 143.5 x 73.3 x 8.3 - 11.2 mm
Weight - 176 g
Color Availability - Black Ballistic Nylon
source: gsmarena
Gsm/hspa/lte bands for all Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo
These are the bands the XT1225 receives -- BOTH the "international" Moto Maxx" and "Moto Turbo":
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Not all the Motorola websites (Puerto Rico, Mexico, Brazil) list all the XT1225 bands. Or at least they didn't when first released. I haven't checked recently.
Initially, they left out mentioning LTE band 5 and HSPA band 4 (even though the FCC found those bands when certifying the XT1225 -- which was necessary for the phone to be sold in Puerto Rico, which is a U.S. territory).
It's not unusual for manufacturers to have additional bands enabled which are not listed in "official" specs. Apple did it in 2012 with their iPhone.
All the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo phones carry the same FCC ID, so they have to be identical devices with the same radio frequencies.
I own two of them from different countries, so I have first hand knowledge. Also, I have seen the FCC ID listed on the XT1225 Moto Turbo in pictures.
However the Motorola India website DOES list all the bands of the XT1225. Using modem scanning software, I found all the bands on the XT1225 Moto Maxx BEFORE the XT1225 Moto Turbo was released in India -- and users in the U.S. and Canada confirmed those bands were there by using carriers which used those bands.
When Motorola released the XT1225 Moto Turbo in India (same FCC ID as the XT1225 Moto Maxx, so IDENTICAL device) it confirmed what many of us already knew.
Motorola released the XT1225 under the "Turbo" name in that market because there's a Max or Maxx carrier in India, and Motorola didn't want any confusion that the phone was associated with that carrier.
http://www.motorola.in/consumers/Vi...oto-Turbo/moto-turbo-in.html#moto-turbo-specs
In fact, I flashed both my XT1225 Moto Maxx to XT1225 Moto Turbo -- which didn't actually change any radio frequencies -- except now I don't have to argue about the specs. I can just point to the Motorola India website "official" specs. But the specs -- including radio frequencies -- are the same across all the XT1225. Perhaps Motorola has revised their other countries' websites to reflect reality, but I have not checked recently.
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These are the bands the XT1250 receives -- the U.S. Moto Maxx, which is sold by smaller regional CDMA/LTE carriers in the United States:
The XT1250 Moto Maxx is IDENTICAL to the XT1254 Verizon Droid Turbo -- same FCC ID, same bands, same specs -- except it has an unlock-able bootloader. The XT1250 is basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo. You can unlock the bootloader, install TWRP recovery, root, etc.
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The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.
See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:
FCC ID IHDT56PK1:
XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This device has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.
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FCC ID IHDT56PK2:
XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). No CMDA. This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.
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Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo, Droid Turbo) -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader.
The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it. (unlock-able bootloader, can be easily rooted, TWRP installed, etc.)
FYI: in the U.S., due to the American Disability Act (ADA), a device with the same FCC ID as another is the SAME device, no matter if it has a different model name for marketing purpose. Devices are certified to work with hearing impaired by the FCC ID. Any company that messes that up is liable for millions of dollars in fines and lawsuits in the United States.
Thus the fact the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and XT1254 Verizon Droid Turbo both have the same FCC ID shows the device and all the Droid Turbo device's specs/frquencies is NOT "exclusive" to Verizon. Only the name "Droid" is exclusive (because Verizon paid for the rights), not the device. Anyone that says differently is just believing Verizon's marketing lies and doesn't REALLY know about the technical/legal aspects of the cell phone industry.
Many people have bought the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and run it on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card, just like a non Verizon Nexus 6. It's the same phone as the XT1254 Droid Turbo, just a different model name. Same FCC ID irrefutably proves it.
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My 5.2" Moto Nexus 6.
I bought the XT1225 Moto Maxx because I am a huge Nexus smartphone fan. What?
Let me explain. My wife and I owned both the gen3 Galaxy Nexus (4.65", 720p) and the gen5 LG Nexus 5 (4.95", 1080p). I had followed Nexus smartphones and tablets extensively even before we owned any, and had even been invited by an Android website to write a blog about them. (I declined due to work restrictions.) Knowing the history of the Nexus smartphones, the gen6 Nexus phone should have been 5.2" 1440p...
Oh, and for the Nexus phones, any number in the name the was the generation model, not the screen size. The Nexus One was NOT 1". The Nexus 4 was closer to 5" than 4". It was NEVER the screen size. For the tablets, yes -- but NOT for the smartphones.
gen1: HTC One, 3.5"
gen2: Samsung Nexus S, 4.0"
gen3: Samsung Galaxy Nexus, 4.65" HD 720p
gen4: LG Nexus 4, 4.7" HD 720p
gen5: LG Nexus 5, 4.95" full HD 1080p
Therefore...
gen6: Nexus 6, probably 5.2", at least full HD 1080p -- probably QHD 1440p. (this was what should have been, not what actually happened -- as we know)
The mainstream "sweet point" in 2014 was a range of 5.1 - 5.5" -- made by the flagship LG, HTC, Samsung, Sony phones. (2014 LG G3 was the outlier at 5.5" but had super slim bezels and was in some dimensions actually smaller than the 2014 5.1" HTC M8.) Even the 2013 & 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note phablet was only 5.7", because even Samsung knows there's a LIMIT to how big a phone can be.
Up to this point for Nexus smartphones, Google had always gone with cutting edge hardware specs (CPU, GPU, resolution) while going with mainstream size, and skimping on camera and battery. Thus 5.2" 1440p with latest Snapdragon was the most logical choice...
Instead Google made a huge mistake and went with a 6" Nexus phablet -- which had poor sales due to size and price. Mostly size. They have admitted their mistake and this year (2015) are making two Nexus phones, both of which are SMALLER than the Nexus 6 whale. I think that's a big mea culpa!
In fact, we know Google/Motorola were testing a 5.2" 1440p gen6 Nexus ("Shamu") as of mid-August 2014. We have the leaked benchmarks to prove it. But after that point in time Google chose the larger of the two variants they were testing.
Motorola subsequently released the "Quark" phones, which are basically 5.2" versions of the 64GB Motorola Nexus 6.
As you can see, 95% same specs but just in a more reasonable size. Same CPU, GPU, Snapdragon SoC, Qi wireless charging, turbo charging, multiple HSPA/LTE bands (yeah not as many as the Nexus 6 but enough for me)... Oh, and the XT1225 has a LARGER battery than the Moto Nexus 6.
The software portion is for "stock" software. For the XT1225 we have several 5.1.1 custom ROMs.
The Quark would be perfect, if only the XT1225 had rear camera OIS and front stereo speakers!
So, I bought two Moto XT1225 to be MY Nexus 6. It's the phone Google should have released last year as the Nexus 6. Or they should have pulled an Apple and released two phones last year (like they are doing this year). The 5.2" would have been a best seller!
For me it was never about price, it was about specs and size. I bought two of these phones which cost me as much as buying two 64GB Moto Nexus 6. Motorola got my money instead of Google.
Google screwed up, but I still got the 5.2" Moto Nexus 6 I wanted.
Excellent post, ChazzMatt. Another Nexus fan here. I come from a Nexus 4 (Mako) (which I still have and love, despite its battery lasting less and less everyday, and despite its power button getting less responsive). I would've been okay with a Shamu, but I was attracted by Quark's large battery. And yeah, the hardware is practically the same, so I went for it. With CM on it, it's just like a Nexus.
Nexus 5x/Nexus 6p vs Moto XT1225
I owned two gen3 Galaxy Nexus and two gen5 LG Nexus 5 smartphones. I did not buy a Nexus 6 as Google screwed up and made it too big. Instead I bought two 5.2" Moto XT1225 which had 95% of the Moto Nexus 6 specs in a more reasonable size. So, I was curious about the upcoming gen7 Nexus phones. Would they make me want to "upgrade"?
At least Google is making two Nexus phones this year (5.2", 5.7"), and in a telling apology BOTH are smaller than last year's 6" Nexus WHALE.
However they are making a mistake by giving the 5.2" lesser specs than the 5.7". Just because some people want a more reasonable phone to hold doesn't mean they don't want top hardware specs.
Read the article. More comments at bottom.
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The Nexus 5X & Nexus 6P Are HERE: Specs & Hardware Detailed
Google has officially announced the Nexus 5X and the Nexus 6P. The handsets represent a big shift in how Google does phones. For starters, there’s two handsets -- something that has never happened before. Second, because there are two handsets users now have a choice over which option they go for -- do you want the big one or the smaller, Nexus 5-style handset?
The Nexus 5X: The Nexus 5 Redesigned
The Nexus 5X features a 5.2-inch LCD display with full HD resolution, just like the original Nexus 5. The Nexus 5X has a pixel density of 424 ppi. Under the hood you’ll find a 2GHz hexa-core Snapdragon 808 processor alongside 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM. With storage you have two options: 16GB and 32GB. As usual, there is ZERO SD-support.
Google has also updated the camera too. It is now a 12.3MP rear camera with an f/2.0 aperture and laser-assisted focus. On the front you have a 5MP unit for selfies and Hangouts. The Nexus 5X also has a fingerprint scanner for security and Android Pay, a Micro USB Type-C port and a 2,700 mAh battery. The handset will ship with Android Marshmallow as well, obviously.
Nexus 5X Specs In FULL
Operating System: Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Display: 5.2 inches, FHD (1920 x 1080) LCD at 423 ppi, Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3, Fingerprint and smudge-resistant oleophobic coating
Rear Camera: 12.3 MP¹, 1.55 µm pixels, f/2.0 aperture, IR laser-assisted autofocus, 4K (30 fps) video capture, Broad-spectrum CRI-90 dual flash
Front Camera: 5 MP, 1.4 µm pixels, f/2.0 aperture
Processors: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 808 processor, 1.8 GHz hexa-core 64-bit, Adreno 418 GPU
Memory & Storage: RAM: 2 GB LPDDR3, Internal storage: 16 GB or 32 GB
Dimensions³: 147.0 x 72.6 x 7.9 mm
Weight: 136 g
Colour Options: Carbon, Quartz, Ice
Nexus 5X & Nexus 6P In A Nutshell
Nexus 6P is the first all-metal-body Nexus phone. Built in collaboration with Huawei, this 5.7” phone is crafted from aeronautical-grade aluminum, with a USB Type-C port for fast charging, a powerful 64-bit processor, and a 12.3 MP camera sensor with massive 1.55µm pixels (hello, better photos!). The Nexus 6P starts at $499.
You’re not the only one who misses your Nexus 5. We’ve joined forces with LG to bring it back with the new Nexus 5X, which gives you great performance in a compact and light package, with a beautiful 5.2” screen and the same 12.3 MP camera and Type-C port as the Nexus 6P. Nexus 5X starts at $379.
The Nexus 6P: A New Dawn For Nexus Flagships
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The Nexus 6P is Google’s flagship, the handset designed to do battle with the iPhone 6s, Samsung Galaxy S6 and LG G4. Like the Nexus 6, the Nexus 6P features a 5.7in AMOLED WQHD display, meaning you’re looking at a rather awesome 2560 x 1440 pixel panel with a pixel density of 518ppi.
“Huawei is very excited to collaborate with Google and deliver a premium Nexus experience for the global market,” said Richard Yu, CEO of Huawei Consumer Business Group. “We value the way consumers embrace mobile technology in all parts of their lives and have created a smartphone with great design, performance and seamless integration of Android 6.0 Marshmallow, the latest Android release.”
“We're excited to partner with Huawei to introduce customers to Nexus 6P, our most premium phone yet and Android 6.0, Marshmallow, our most polished and highest-performing OS ever." Said Hiroshi Lockheimer, VP Android, Chromecast and Chrome OS at Google.
Unlike the Nexus 5X, the Nexus 6P uses Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 810 CPU. This is 64-bit chipset and has it has proven time and time again its pedigree inside some of Android’s best handsets so far this year. The Nexus 6P also features 3GB of RAM, dual front-facing stereo speakers, a Micro USB Type-C port, a 12.3MP main camera, an 8-megapixel front-facing selfie camera, a massive 3,450 battery and either 16GB, 64GB or 128GB of storage.
Nexus 6P Specs In FULL
Operating System: Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Display: 5.7 inches; WQHD (2560 x 1440) AMOLED display at 518 ppi; 16:9 aspect ratio; Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4; Fingerprint and smudge-resistant oleophobic coating
Rear Camera: 12.3 MP¹; 1.55 µm pixels; f/2.0 aperture; IR Laser assisted autofocus; 4K (30 fps) video capture; Broad-spectrum CRI-90 dual flash
Front Camera: 8MP camera; 1.4 µm pixels; f/2.4 aperture; HD video capture (30 fps)
Processors: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 810 v2.1, 2.0 GHz Octa-core 64-bit; Adreno 430 GPU
Memory & Storage: RAM: 3 GB LPDDR4; Internal storage: 32 GB, 64 GB, or 128 GB
Dimensions: 159.3 X 77.8 X 7.3 mm
Weight: 178 g
Color: Aluminium; Graphite; Frost
Media: Dual front-facing stereo speakers; 3 microphones (2 front, 1 rear) with noise cancellation
Battery: 3,450 mAh battery; Fast charging: up to 7 hours of use from only 10 minutes of charging
Wireless & Location: LTE cat. 6; Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MIMO, dual-band (2.4 GHz, 5.0 GHz); Bluetooth 4.2; NFC; GPS, GLONASS; Digital compass; Wi-Fi use requires 802.11a/b/g/n/ac access point (router). Syncing services, such as backup, require a Google Account.
Ports: USB Type-C; Single Nano SIM slot: 3.5 mm audio jack
Material: Anodized aluminum
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Nexus 2015 Release Date: Handsets WILL Ship In October
According to a report from MobileSyrup, Canadian carrier Telus has revealed some details about the Android 6.0 Marshmallow rollout. Allegedly it will be rolling from October 5 to a selection of devices, this is according to a "subject to change" software release schedule from the firm. Devices mentioned for Marshmallow specifically include the existing Nexus 5 and Nexus 6 models. Assuming that the Nexus and Marshmallow launch is going ahead on September 29 a software rollout date of October 5 would certainly make a lot of sense.
Google has now confirmed that both the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P will begin shipping during October. The Nexus 5X starts at $379 and the Nexus 6P starts at $499. We don't have UK pricing just yet, but it is likely to be the same. We'll update as soon as we know more.
The 16GB Nexus 5X will be priced at $379.99, but currently the price of the 32GB option is not known. It has been confirmed that the Nexus 5X will be up for pre-order on Google Play in the UK, US, Japan, Ireland and South Korea, in "Carbon", "Quartz" and "Ice Blue" finishes.
As expected the Nexus 6P will be a bit more expensive, the base model is 32GB and will cost $499.99 and there will be 64GB and 128GB models too, but again no prices for those just yet. Colour options for the metal finish are "Aluminium", "Graphite" and "Frost", while the gold option will be a Japan exclusive at first. Pre-order availability includes the UK, Canada, Japan, US and Ireland.
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GOOD: Both Nexus phones are better than any iPhone. (the 5.7" has higher resolution, bigger display, bigger battery than the iPhone 6s Plus, yet is smaller and lighter). Also, Google went back to lower pricing for their Nexus smartphones.
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BAD: I'm not that impressed with either one -- at least compared to what I have right now (2014 Moto XT1225). There are many Androids better than iPhones. The competition is not inferior iPhones but the top-tier Androids. For instance, both 2015 Nexus phones lack Qi wireless charging and rear camera OIS. What?
The 5.2" variant also needs 3GB RAM, 1440p, and bigger battery -- instead of 2GB RAM, 1080p and 2700 mAh battery. It's just a warmed-over 2013 LG G2 (5.2", 1080p, 2GB RAM). But the LG G2 at least had a 3,000 mAh battery, and the 2013 gen5 LG Nexus 5 (based on the LG G2) had Qi wireless and rear camera OIS. We are now up to gen7 and going backwards?
Also the 5.2" needs a bigger storage option. Tops out at 32GB.
In comparison, MY current 2014 Moto XT1225 has 5.2" AMOLED display, 1440p, 3GB RAM, 3900 mAh battery, 64GB storage, Qi wireless charging, Turbo Quick Charging, 21MP auto-focus camera with dual flash. Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot.
Google should have put ALL that into the 2015 5.2" Nexus phone and MORE. Not LESS.
Sure the Snapdragon 808/810 is slightly faster, but I'm content with my Snapdragon 805. I'm comparing features, not the assumed yearly CPU upgrade. Whereas, the upcoming 2016 Snapdragon 820 will make a huge difference.
Software is not a difference, as my phone can have new Marshmallow 6.0 as soon as I want it after release. (I'm rooted, run developer group ROMs.) I hope Marshmallow 6.0 out of the gate will be better than buggy Lollipop 5.0 last October. Whereas Kitkat 4.4.4 was rock stable. It took until 5.1.1 (about six months) to straighten out issues. But Marshmallow will be available for my phone almost immediately, via CM. Just depends on how quickly I want to switch over to it?
The only thing either new Nexus phone has that XT1225 does not is the stereo speakers and laser-assisted auto-focus. (Just found out the 5.2" doesn't have stereo speakers either. I don't know what the bottom grill is for.) But I have a 21MP camera... which neither 2015 Nexus phone has. My 5.2" XT1225 has a bigger battery (3900 mAh) than either Nexus. I have Qi wireless charging, which neither has -- which is the real deal breaker for me.
I have Kevlar with ballistic nylon overlay, so I'm not jealous of aluminum in any way. My phone can stop a bullet. (Besides with a a case to prevent scuffs/scrapes, it's not like any actually sees the aluminum.)
And no, I'm not impressed by the new C port, IF the trade-off is loss of Qi wireless convenience. Yeah, someone from Google said that's why they left out Qi charging, which is a stupid reason. It's not either/or, you can have BOTH.
So, tell me why I should dump my phone and trade DOWN?
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BOTTOM LINE: The 2015 Nexus phones aren't bad phones, especially if you are upgrading from a phone 2 or more years older. But the 5.2" variant is distinctly a mid-tier phone compared to 2014 and 2015 top-tier Androids, which is very disappointing.
Even the 5.7" needs a couple more features (Qi wireless, rear camera OIS) to be considered true top tier. Previous Nexus phones (gen 5 Nexus 5, gen6 Nexus 6) had those features.
So, it's strange Google would rectify their WHALE mistake from last year, while committing more mistakes this year.
@ChazzMatt Completely agree with you.
It's hard for others to understand how I feel, but I'm disappointed at this year's wave of smartphones.
Also I want to add that no matter how much they talk about the 810, I will always feel like its a failed product. I don't know why but I wouldn't buy a phone with it (even though all issues are probably fixed by now)
Plus, once you go 3900mA, it's hard to go small again (even a bit)
Will see what 2016 has in store for us.
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In my opinion, the Nexus 5X looks like a cheapo Chinese plastic device. The Nexus 6P looks okay for me, though.
Anyway, I'm very happy with my Quark, and I'm not wasting more money on smartphones until at least two more years.