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im not trying too ask if it exists our start a flaming war but im seriously sick of seeing android on hd2 threads pop up like almost every day I mean come on dont be lazy search when there is android on hd2 it will be posted on xda-developers.com
no need to make this thread , ;..; ,
yes there is. so people will come to this and see it before they make a thread asking since their too lazy to search.
So you are sick of seeing noew threads come up about Android on the HD2 poping up daily............
What you didn't see one come up today so you thought it would be a good idea to make one? I mean really what was the point of this post other then being an ignorant troll?
Wil Badger said:
So you are sick of seeing noew threads come up about Android on the HD2 poping up daily............
What you didn't see one come up today so you thought it would be a good idea to make one? I mean really what was the point of this post other then being an ignorant troll?
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And yet you replied to it ......
(that was not intended to sound as insulting as it does, just saying he got ya, and now me .... )
Don't Feed The Trolls!!
actually yes ones been posted today and i'm sick of seeing it and if it's gonna get posted every day i'd rather post one so people will be attracted to this thread and so they can see it's not happening anytime soon.
Oh great another useless thread, threads like this annoy everyone just as much as "android on my hd2" threads annoy you.
The reason people don't search is becuase it's far simpler to just make a new thread so having a thread that just says "use the search button" is not going to stop them
no people are just too lazy to search. argue with me then prove it. go search for something you have a small problem even as small as it is I guarantee you will find it. I have searched and found everything I have needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631069
Searching before posting is supposed to be a rule on here... Maybe the mods should come down a little harder on Android threads seeing how everyone's getting a little bit sick of them appearing each and every day... I still love this forum but I think it's falling victim to the HD2's success to a certain extent as you never used to see so many duplicate threads on the Trinity or Diamond forums (where people probably took the time to search more).
Thats exactly what I'm saying man. The threads just sit and collect replies and replies and die and then someone just posts another one. It takes up alot of threads that are really useful and I"m tired of having to go to sometimes 7 pages before I see all the important threads.
It's a little bit out of control and it's an outrage. Noobs don't listen to the mods on making pointless posts
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Thats exactly what I'm saying man. The threads just sit and collect replies and replies and die and then someone just posts another one. It takes up alot of threads that are really useful and I"m tired of having to go to sometimes 7 pages before I see all the important threads.
It's a little bit out of control and it's an outrage. Noobs don't listen to the mods on making pointless posts
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So you started another one ... that is taking up my time ... geez look at me, it is like an addiction cannot ignore the damn things .....
sherlockpwnz said:
im not trying too ask if it exists our start a flaming war but im seriously sick of seeing android on hd2 threads pop up like almost every day I mean come on dont be lazy search when there is android on hd2 it will be posted on xda-developers.com
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SPAMMER...
You cried about them asking all the time - and you just created another thread talking about it??? That my friend is called SPAMMING!!!!
sorry to say, this is one hell of a pointless thread, and the idea of it is full of contradictions. sorry OP!
the OP created this thread, mentioning in the first post that people don't search (which may very well be true).
given the first assumption, the OP is justifying the creation of the thread with the motive that "people looking for android will come to this thread". dude! how will they come to find this thread if they are incapable of searching in the first place?
a thread to attract those interested in android development for the HD2 already exists...it has been STICKIED in the ROM development section. a stickied thread about the topic doesn't seem to deter the noobs from asking about it...how can this new thread be any more successful at minimizing the clutter?
I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
churchwin88 said:
I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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That is a pretty good idea you just came up with there!
Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
Aridon said:
Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Then where do those serious posters post?
yeah there are waaay to many people who basically just want someone else to do everything for them, and dont want to actually search for themselves. frankly i think its US the people who know how to use a forum properly, that should NOT be paying attention to these people. i wish people would just not respond to all those lazy people who just want to be spoonfed on what to do. if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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Thanks, now I am going to have nightmares.
yeah i mean i pretty much almost never go into the Q&A section, and general section because 90% of whats in there is a bunch "i dont know how to do this please tell me how" probably because those people never finished their freshman year in college and actually learned how to do proper research... but oh well, i mean the only forum i check is the development one, it seems to slowly be getting better and better. very slowly.
I agree with the OP, however, this is simply a side effect from the forum hitting the mainstream. At almost 3 million users, it is simply impossible not to get these kinds of people. The development forum is a lot better though since it's better curated.
I've learned to simply ignore it and move along. Trust me, it could be way worse.
how do i root my phone... I'm kidding of course
sent from satan fone!
I think I know how to clean up the redundant threads a little bit.
The forum administrator could change the input field for naming your new thread into a hidden Google search box!
So then people type their new topic into the box and WHAMMO suddenly there is >3,000,000 solutions right in their face before they even begin to start writing the body of the post.
The thread starter must then click on a minimum number of links from the googled solutions before they are allowed to actually post their question with a new thread!
Problem solved....
Unfortunately, the search in the XDA app sux.
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the problem is it's frustrating for everyone.
and also not to point fingers but there's only one way to really curb the problem.
More information available more easily.
Better more acccurate more updated Wiki or compilation of ALL the basics.
Also, for everyone that starts a thread you need to put in more details, Sometimes I'm amazed at how a developer can master putting everything for the phone together and then post a thread saying..... Here's my rom WEE clicky here, done.
DETAILS install, how to when where what, update and keep things updated.
most of the stuff I can navigate threw myself and thats fine but sometimes theres like 300 pages and your getting no where, if your the thread starter and you add something important to the conversation mid thread, edit your first post.
As far as people posting stupid VERY simple repetitive questions, just try and search it first please, ugh.
I agree with the xda app search sucks.. i get low data speed here in wisconsin usually 30kb/s or under so dont use the internet for the site.. the search should be able to sure certain forums that would help alot of people out who do actually use the search but hard finding it with the app search..
sent from my Evo
Also alot of people dont word the topic right or even have what they are asking about.. like today someone put... help!. Had good info on radios but someone thats looking up the same thing wont run into it.
sent from my Evo
Now that I think about it, the hardest thing to do is run through a 200 page topic and actually pull useful information out of it. An example:
The first 500 replys are:
First!
downloading...
Will DL when I get home...
Downloading now
ect, ect for 500 pages
Then you finally get to the meat of the topic when you no longer see "downloading now" and you start to see "my 4gee's no workie" for another 150 pages only to realize that the answer to all of those questions was in the OP that nobody read!
This cycle goes on and on and it's nearly impossible to gather intelligence from chaos like that.
this is probably the 10th topic about this....just sayin
In your third paragraph, you repeated yourself by saying "because" twice. Practice what you preach. If you think you can do it better, go start your own forum.
I'm just bs'ing/being a smartass. You are okay to have your opinion. I can understand when a person gets in a mood and needs to rant to vent some frustrations. You may also have some valid points.
My parting thought:
It can be said in many different ways. Instead of complaining about something you don't agree with or like, might I make a suggestion to volunteer yourself to make things better. Trying to focus on solutions instead of problems.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no saint. Some people really irritate the crap out of me too, plus, I know I'm not mr personality either.
The mods have their hands full (I'm sure that's an understatement). If you can do your good deed for the day and help out a newb, then you are giving back.
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This forum desperately needs more moderation. I messaged toast over a month ago with this suggestion and offered my help as I have moderated other forums. He never even bothered to respond.
For a tech forum,moderation is the difference between good and lousy. Self policing can only go so far.
As for the search, there is no problem with it. VB is the most popular forum software for a reason. It works very well. Pro tip: 99% of your searches should be title only.
Mad06STi said:
I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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The big problem is when people get their EVO, they realize their battery lasts 20 minutes out of the box. They then get on google and try to find out how to increase their battery life. They find an article on some douchebag blog talking about rooting their phone. These people then google rooting their phone and all signs point to XDA. Sometimes they know a guy or have a friend of a friend who told them to "root" their phone, skipping the first step.
This is exactly why there are 100 repeated questions/threads. Everyone is directed to this website from various other websites. So you will get people who want instant answers and don't want to wade through tons of replies/text.
www.gsmarena.com/htc_legend_froyo_update_starts_rolling_out_wildfire_comes_next-news-2132.php
Hopefully soon
Agreed. Hopefully sometime next week prior to the holidays! Taking way too long on this!
I hope its before new year as if it isn't I will have to get rid of My wildfire... By the time 2.3 comes it will be too far behind
I hope that by the time Froyo for Wildfire gets here, people start paying more attention and learn to search for topics. For crying out loud, the topic was on the same freakin' page....
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I hope that by the time Froyo for Wildfire gets here, people start paying more attention and learn to search for topics. For crying out loud, the topic was on the same freakin' page....
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Yes, this is right!!
I saw this question and similar posts for a lots of time ....
Everybody asking this, all over again :S
I hope Froyo is coming, and this stupid questions dissapears.. .
Nop ... after that, everybody will asking Ginger...
sry bad english
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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I'll agree with that.IMO it's just that this phone is a little long in the tooth,and a lot of the really good devs have moved on. Also a lot of the people that were really helpful(not saying all of them,there are still some that help.)have moved on to other phones,and if you look at the sigs. of the mods they are involved with many other phones which eats up a lot of they're time.And I think they're leaving some of the policing to us unless it gets out of hand,like over they're in the thread where it got a little heated....
I'm only posting here because I liked the thread title
I kinda agree with you, I noticed the same thing about the necro bumping.
Another thing, is what happened to the search button?? It seems to have disappeared lately
btw (numder =/= number)
Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?
Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?
you saw that lol...
and yes.
Also fowatine or whatever his name is really pissed me off yesterday when he started bashing my thread "help switching to a modified prl" when he didint try to read what was going on.
hey does anyone want to nominate me for a mod ill clean up this town......
jk lol
Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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We are all new at one time, and some of us (like me) post wrong because we're just learning the ropes..
yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile
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yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile
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Maybe those pricks have moved on,,, LoL
Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
sent from a series of tubes.
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Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
sent from a series of tubes.
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You must come from the unix world , to be able to figure linux . Coming from DEC's VMS world , unix never made sense to me .LoL
Also a lot of the grabassing is being done by "senior" members, remember "you can't fix stupid, but ignorance can be taught"
The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.
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The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.
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agreed....
enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.
i defintly think there needs to another mod for the hero deca and theimpaler cant be everywere at once.
Bierce22 said:
enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.
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Aw, does someone need a hug??
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also whats up with that luisdg dude hes bumped like 4 threads up in the last 10min
case in point... lmao
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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touche stayclean tocuhe..
stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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Don't even start. I often am able to offer assistance but decline to do so simply because despite not having the time to search, some users seem to also not have the time to type a properly worded post/question.
why didntthiswork on idk whutsgoin on wid itt radish sum1plzhlp
haha autocorect and texting ruined my typing ability lmao.
hi mods plz dont close threads too early .we`re gonna discus but you dont let us just w8 until a flame war happen then ban ppl dont close whole thread
hope you`ll do it!
i think they want the forum to close lol
Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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Lesser nonsensical opened thread = lesser closed threads.
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agree...
``Delayed update`` made x10 users so angry they just want to fight doesnt matter who is it i think banning the angry mans is best way to control forum not close thread
I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree and asked the same question to a moderator last night. I felt like the problem revolved around a couple senior members, not the entire forum. The mod made a good point. In the past they have tried just banning individuals, but another one pops up in his place. They need to send a message to everyone. Once things calm down, I bet they will back off. Everyone just needs to behave.
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I agree, but I am not sure I can eliminate the issue to particular members, senior or junior. There is a general temperament and hostility in almost every new thread and in some older too. Maybe closing threads is harsh, but if we want to be honest, X10 forums have become unbearable last couple of weeks. I feel we left moderators with no other choice.
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
i knew someone would start another thread, did say this to pilot. feel was harsh, as nothing had been said in the thread. If you take that stance as pilot said, stop it before it starts, then you could close every thread going that has someone stating something different to another.
Agreed !! +1
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I still think that banning is more effective than just locking.
Let's take my pinned Gingerbread update thread for example. I woke up to it today being locked, and I have no idea what caused it, but I do have a hunch to who are the people who caused the flame war and forced the mods to lock it.
Instead of locking the thread (now I can't even edit the OP anymore, so I lose my intention of the thread to keep an updated post on the GB update), it would be better to ban those members. Now, there will be even more spam threads as people post their own gingerbread threads, since mine, which was considered the main one, is locked. More spam=more flaming=more fighting=more locks.
It's a vicious cycle but I feel that banning will be more effective and send a point across.
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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Since You people cant discuss anything without lowering yourselves to arguing and crying ive locked this thread
The OP can still update but you cant ***** at each other
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I think PILOT said you aren't restricted in that thread, just everyone else.
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no I tried...no edit option avaliable.
ok
as my job as moderator i have to sometime preemptively guess if the thread is going to go in the flame war direction. thats my job. its something the admin has asked me to do
i closed a thread about tripnraver because they are guaranteed to turn nasty.
and got complaints. tripnraver is no longer at the this forums that was his choice and he doesnt want stuff of his posted here. also whenever some one does it turns nasty
i closed a thread about the 2.3 update. because i was getting a few dozen complaints per day about this. so it wasnt a discussion as some of you claim
it had been cleaned out a total of fours time by myself and other mods. and you will still not learn
the op of this thread should not have posted it. if he had concerns he should have pm'd me so i can pm him back. otherwise this thread will be full of "oh those moderators theyre asked to look after a forum and whaddya know they close thread destined to spiral into flame wars. stupid mods"
op of 2.3 thread im still looking at a way for you to update first post
all in all if you dont want to my close threads stop posting drivel everywhere. my_immortal was right i have no other option
if you have an issue with me losing a thread pm me or email me
and if you still think i was wrong for stopping arguements then feel free to pm mikechannon or svetius