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USB Host

Does anyone know of a usb host driver that enables usb host on the X1? Another user reported that the Zeno usb host drivers did not work. Any one tried others with success?

it has been discussed here somewere, and the last thing was all agreed it doesn't have a USB Host!
i hope it's not true, only time will let us know!

Uh... Well... I understand what you are asking for, but I don't know what you want to do with it... What would be the need for a USB host function on a mobile phone

Trudi said:
Uh... Well... I understand what you are asking for, but I don't know what you want to do with it... What would be the need for a USB host function on a mobile phone
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Let's say you have some files on a thumb drive and wanna work on them (.doc , .xls...etc) but you don't have a laptop with you.
Or..Some images on an external HDD you wanna send via email, but no laptop with you...
Or..Show off to your iSheep friends that you can connect usb mouse and keyboard to use on your x1..
Get images off of your digi cam....etc etc
How about pluging in a usb joypad for gaming??
Endless possibilities.

I've recently seen some universal WinMo USB host drivers but the problem with X1 supposedly is that it doesn't power the USB port itself so you might need to power it externally. Dunno if it would really work though.

But you still need a pen drive or ext. hd with mini USB right?

Carty said:
But you still need a pen drive or ext. hd with mini USB right?
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This http://www.amazon.com/Female-Mini-Male-Adapter-Shipping/dp/B000Y6UL5E
http://tero.mononen.eu/index.cgi/Blog/N800_and_photograhy-2008-07-27-19-01.cgi

Does the amazon actually work on the X1?

Peeps, i have been thinking about this problem for awhile now. Check this thread, there is a link to a site with drivers that should work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480279
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BUT
BUT
Xperia doesn't have a powered usb. So, the only two ways to get something working are to either connect something with its own power supply, or to use a usb injector. Sadly the first option defeats the whole point of connecting a flash or a mouse and the latter one, well, i haven't had any luck with a suitable injector for the x1.
Good luck.

Concentrate said:
Does the amazon actually work on the X1?
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NO, not unless we have a driver for USB host for X1
And as above posts stats, power to the USB.

[Q] Android USB Host :)

Android USB Host
Actually, wanted to know if USB Host mode could be enabled in Android or not...
Before few months, it was on devlopment... but no new news

Do you mean for USB file transfers? Yes it works perfectly fine now on current builds (well, every build I've tried over the last few weeks anyway)

I think he rather means the ability to plug on the hd2 a mouse, keyboard or usb key

Just says 'needs testing'.

No. The microUSB port of your HD2 is not sending electricity to your mouse/keyboard (external power source needed).
You can't fix this by software.
Maybe once Teksoft get there Blueinput working on the HD2, you will be able to connect a standard 2.4ghz bluetooth mouse on WinMo/Android.

Thnx buddies... proud of being HD2 owner
gogodu5sU said:
No. The microUSB port of your HD2 is not sending electricity to your mouse/keyboard (external power source needed).
You can't fix this by software.
Maybe once Teksoft get there Blueinput working on the HD2, you will be able to connect a standard 2.4ghz bluetooth mouse on WinMo/Android.
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I tried making external power adaptor, but it didnt evn worked
shadiku said:
Just says 'needs testing'.
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i tested... bt no luck
Sichroteph said:
I think he rather means the ability to plug on the hd2 a mouse, keyboard or usb key
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Reno_79 said:
Do you mean for USB file transfers? Yes it works perfectly fine now on current builds (well, every build I've tried over the last few weeks anyway)
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yeah... i mean USB Host... the way usb devices could be connected to our HD2

Energy Supply by Usb hosting and Micro-Usb to HDMI Cable

Hi! I know there are several kernels that enables usb hosting on our Galaxy S, [I'm using last Semaphore right now], my question here is: Does exist any way to supply energy directly to the usb device from our terminal? I have the proper cable to connect them [atm I don't remember the name of it], so I thought "There is an exchange of energy trought the usb entrance in our phone, so why we couldn't use it not just as input, but as output too?" Let me know it, and thanks in advance

Because you can either have power or data transfer, not both, due too pin arrangement, external power is needed unfortunately

Thanks for answering! But let me understand, when usb mass storage is connected, is there not both transferring of data and power supply? Why would be different with usb hosting?

Up!

Alex-Absolute said:
Up!
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my bad actually, was thinking of situation when you have fast charge enabled....fact remains you need external power supply..Google it, plenty of info out there

slaphead20 said:
my bad actually, was thinking of situation when you have fast charge enabled....fact remains you need external power supply..Google it, plenty of info out there
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I understand.. Well I googled it, but just couldn't find the reason. I guess it's like you said, just a hardware matter. Thank you!
Just a last thing, as we're here. What about the micro-usb to hdmi adapter? Is there the same problem or it will work?

Alex-Absolute said:
I understand.. Well I googled it, but just couldn't find the reason. I guess it's like you said, just a hardware matter. Thank you!
Just a last thing, as we're here. What about the micro-usb to hdmi adapter? Is there the same problem or it will work?
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for tv out? Should work

slaphead20 said:
for tv out? Should work
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Yes! Very thanks, let's hope so. At least I've given 5 free euros and not 15 to Amazon xD
When I'll test it, I'll post the result :good:

UPDATE: Apparently, neither the hdmi output cable works on i9000. I looked around, and I discovered the reason why it doesn't work is about mhl drivers. They need to be compile inside the kernel, and no one seems to have done it yet. Ufortunately, 2 on 2 failed. Damn and thanks either :good:

Up! Anyone could implement those drivers in a kernel? I can donate for that too! Come on!

OTG Support

While i was thinking is it possible to make OTG work on Touch Pro 2?
Any Software or ROM or Kernel updates will do?

You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...

arrrghhh said:
You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...
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Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?

nikhil.pgm said:
Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?
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(Almost) anything is possible with enough time and determination...
Has it been done already? Not to my knowledge.

'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure

Caldair said:
'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure
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Surely i would, leme work on that!

does the Froyo Build support OTG?
nikhil.pgm said:
Surely i would, leme work on that!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]

nikhil.pgm said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]
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That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)

arrrghhh said:
That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?

nikhil.pgm said:
i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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No one ever got it working, I thought I made that perfectly clear...
I'm not sure what you need, again there's probably quite a bit of legwork that you'll need to do in order for it to talk on our devices. I don't think you can just "use" the LEO drivers in this case - however, adapting them might be a good place to start.

nikhil.pgm said:
i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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I thought I read somewhere that the TP2 can not provide power. You had to use a powered usb hub + device to have a chance at getting it working.
The downside being that you had all this stuff to haul around if you wanted to use an OTG cable.

Can someone can try "Headunit" ?

Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !

stadros83 said:
Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !
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Nope. It says it's for Android 4.1+
The NST runs 2.1

Too bad .
Thanks.

Of course the new Nook Glow Plus would probably work, it's 4.4.2
It's a quicker display than the old Nook and at 300 DPI, sharper too.
Also, the light is pretty good.

That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?

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That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?
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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...

Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.

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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...
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Thanks a lot for your time/test !

Renate NST said:
Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.
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I already tried tablets in my car but same problem with any phone : the sun .
I have a cab, so I'm looking for a screen which can be used if there is a lot of light ! (and I also like to play with new things ...)

It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?

Renate NST said:
It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?
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Honestly I don't know !

stadros83 said:
Honestly I don't know !
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Well, what do you plug it into?

Renate NST said:
Well, what do you plug it into?
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Ah sorry I did not understand your question.
For this you need to plug a smartphone (android 5 at least).
It transforms the tablet in an Android Auto display (like a radio).
But if you have technicals questions about the app you should see with the developper, I'm only a single user .

Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.

Renate NST said:
Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
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Yes, sorry I'm not clear !
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.
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You mean software on the Nook or in the headunit app ?