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Hello,
I have just upgraded to the official GPS ROM and I am on the Swedish 3 operator. I have noticed since the upgrade that the network connection is switching from 3G to HSDPA when there is a demand of bandwidth or simply when there is data in either direction.
I can see that the purpose of this was to make it possible and more reliable to place and receive calls during data sessions. I have figured out though, that with the old ROM, there was no such switching (but there was no distinction with the icon, so you really had no idea) and the connection speed was always constantly 1Mbits/s when using Internet Sharing for example. Now with the HSDPA/3G switching/throttling, the connection often drops down to 3G speeds and Skype-calls are lacking quality from this a bit when using Skype in the car which i do quite regularly nowadays using my Jabra JX-10 headset.
I also realize that there is still a problem with outgoing and incoming calls during these automaticly switched-on HSDPA-sessions. That is probably why HTC has decided to keep the HSDPA sessions as short as possible, that's fine, but what boggles me is the algorithm used for the switching. It seems to always kick in HSDPA in the beginning of a new data session, and after a short time of inactivity (while pondering what favourite page to open this time) the connection drops down to 3G and it won't kick back to HSDPA even when you start browsing again, until a certain period of "non-HSDPA-ratio" has been reached and the phone thinks it would be OK to kick in the highspeed again for a little while.
I also noticed that using Skype would keep HSDPA alive once you place a call from a fresh started data session and keep talking ;-)
This is not a particular problem to me, I was just wondering of anyone else here has noticed and had an idea of what the programmers had in mind?
BTW: I am running TomTom 6.010 and Franson GpsGate on the machine now and it works absolutely like a dream. I used to have a Blue-I Bluetooth GPS in the car (Trimble based chipset, only 8 channels but quite OK piece of hardware) but this is far superior when it comes to HOLDING a persistent fix also when moving indoors. The TTFF is quite fast as long as you are outdoors, most of the time i have a fix before i leave the parking space. I noticed there being a dynamic number of satellites of the receiver, sometimes i see 7 out of 8 satellites, and then sometimes i see 10 out of 12! Anyone noticed?
Thanks in advance! Cheers...
It’s not your phone that decide to change from HSDPA mode to normal R99 (384kbits) mode and vice versa. Everything are always controlled by the network. The behaviors that you describe are normal. Besides the HSDPA is quit new for the operators and new parameters needs to be tuned for best performance for every users.
BTW, the degradation that you notice. You are not alone that use HSDPA.... Its finally the big success for 3G
I use Phone Alarm profiles and BandSwitch to control my connection based on business hours. I get a poor singal unless on 3G where my office is located. I force it to GPRS otherwise to save battery.
I have similar problems, cannot receive or start calls when HSDPA connected. Shouldn't that be possible anyway, calling and transferring data at the same time? Or is this a network provider problem?
I too am on the Swedish operator 3. I have an unlocked, non-operator distributed HTC TyTN that I had updated the radio to 1.40xxx and the ROM to Black Dymond 3.5 and was having the exact same problem. I could reproduce the incoming call not getting through error every single time I got the phone to go into HSDPA mode.
After some initial searching I read somewhere it was network dependent (Nokia switches vs Ericsson) and the only way to solve it was to disable the HSDPA using e.g. HTweakC, which I did and it solved the problem, but then of course I couldn't take advantage of the high-speed data access, which was the major reason I got this phone.
I recently noticed that 3 released a new extended ROM with instructions to update the ROM to the latest (as is available on the ftp here) then install their ExtROM. I went to the trouble to try and breakdown what was in this extended ROM, but being a newbie to pocketpc it was all hyroglyphics to me, so I went ahead and installed it over my old HTC ext ROM (which I saved for later use just in case).
When I get around to it I may mount this extended ROM here (I have it, but don't have too much time to put it up right now, so someone may beat me to it).
Anyway, Black Dymond 3.5 didn't install the Extended ROM after a hard reset (assuming that was the intention), so I did it myself afterwards. One initial bug that showed up quickly was the Comm Manager not wanting to start saying it would only manage a max of 7 items (whatever that means). So I installed Schaps latest Comm Manager and it worked fine.
Well, guess what, now there's a daemond that starts on boot and the phone app is different (another bug is that the text on the phone app buttons remain in the 3 theme although I changed back to black, but that's minor), but now I cannot replicate the no incoming calls during HSDPA error.
Apparently they've added something that makes the phone connect properly to their 3G/HSDPA network for call handling. Now I've got full HSDPA speed and no problem on incoming calls (plus still have Black Dymond's great VOIP/SIP WM6 solution).
Ok, as a noob I of course missed the fact that the daemon starting at boot is Voice Commander. Still the actual phone app/dll is somehow different with this ExtROM and it's solved my problems.
what do you think, I think one of the most important is about the huge power consumption when using GSM (that is including HSPA) data connection....yes, my X1 an play music 1.75 hours with -as indicated- 10% battery drop, BUT THE SAME LEVEL OF DROP is achieved if I use my X1 to browse with GSM connection in just below 1 hour! *mind you that I wasn't downloading, that means that isn't a 100% constant connection traffic usage*
will they ever release a ROM update? when? I mean, Samsung for example, already released more than 4 ROM update for OMNIA, it will be UNACCEPTABLE if SE doesn't do that
From what I've heard from SE support there is an update imminent. -"At the latest, two weeks before christmas"... that's like, today.
Wouldn't bet any money on it reaching us before xmas though. SEs pretty good at not meeting deadlines, as we all know.
Id like an autolock, bigger dialer button option, send and recieve all email accounts at once, select/delete multiple emails, keep copys of emails and louder mp3 ringtones please, for Xmas!
Im sure there are others I cant think of at the moment .
loggy said:
select/delete multiple emails
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have you tried SHIFT + cursor down?
regarding the autolock, have you tried this? (notice: i haven't but it looks like what you want)
autolock download page
loggy said:
Id like an autolock, bigger dialer button option, send and recieve all email accounts at once, select/delete multiple emails, keep copys of emails and louder mp3 ringtones please, for Xmas!
Im sure there are others I cant think of at the moment .
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press and hold stylus/finger for about 500ms then drag up or down to select multiple mails.
Also good for selecting multiple contacts. It's not just simple press and drag, press a little long (around 500ms) then drag
it works and it's easy
And to be ontopic
- better today interface(using OpenGL of course) that should include shortcuts to: - communications manager(turn off/on quickly for bluetooth,wifi and data connections);
- calls;
- weather;
- day and clock & alarms;
- a field with quick launch for user chosen applications.
So far i did not encounter any problem with radio functions(bluetooth, wifi and gsm/3g/umts connection). (Bluetooth does not turn off completely, it's entering a suspend state, and resumes instantly when needed - that's why i don't need any app to keep bluetooth on)
-better design to calls, and quicker response;
-optimization of graphic drivers;
-panels 2 and 4 are crapp. should be redesigned. I tried them and since then never launched again. Useless.
-try to include usb mass storage option when connecting to pc (an option to choose between active sync and mass storage);
- try to unlock Qualcomm's function to recognize an external card reader, or stick when connected to Xperia as a drive , so i can read&write on them
- more (usefull) panels for Download
- speed improvement on loading panels
- not showing the dummy panel while panel is loading
- fixing some bluetooth issues
- Browse Filesystem for Multimedia Files in Panel (not only by ID3-Tags)
- Fast switch between GSM and 3G(UMTS) in Comm Manager
- Native Remapping of Camera Button
I want a fix for the poor signal
MrZippo said:
I want a fix for the poor signal
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you have Vodafone branded Xperia?? If yes, get rid of branding and do a HasrSPL reFlash with generic UK ROM. Signal pretty good, if not excellent!
Vodafone branding craps signal. It's a fact!
Oh, i forgot: There is a must in new firmware -
-redesign of camera interface, and unlock the real video recording capabilities of the machine, with possibility to choose from 3gp to mp4. For the moment, video recording is crap for what the hardware can do.
-camera should store the last settings used when taking picture, like flash on.
- adding the possibility to sync shutter speed with flash(take pictures in the night whitout long exposure time, just as the flash lights).
memtronic said:
you have Vodafone branded Xperia?? If yes, get rid of branding and do a HasrSPL reFlash with generic UK ROM. Signal pretty good, if not excellent!
Vodafone branding craps signal. It's a fact!
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Yeah I did have a Vodafone branded X1 but I have flashed it with the generic UK ROM and the signal is still crap, I get 2 bars then during calls it drops signal and then searches for a signal and then 2 bars magically appear, I call the person back and it drops again. It only seems to happen in areas that don't have a strong signal, but I never had any problems in these 2 bar signal areas with all my previous mobiles.
I am experiencing a very strange problem, and I really hope to solve it otherwise I will have to use my blackstone just as a PDA...
Something like one week ago I have experienced huge problems to catch network, I was at my home where there are always problems as it is located on the border between Luxembourg and Germany, several networks are available and no one is really ok.. however in the past expecially after radio 1.13 all was more or less solved but after "that" moment it was extremely difficult to connect, even with the "manual"option while in the past it was always ok and even if connected with signal at a good strenght it was impossible to make any call or connect to data network.
At that moment, I had Topix 2.6 with radio 1.13 - I have tried to reinstall the image, I have changed to Topix 2.7, then to Dutty 3.5, radio 1.14, back to 1.13... hard reset several times... no way to solve and symptoms are exactly the same.
At least I have identified the problem in transmission: reception is ok, phone can "see" networks but as I try to connect he cannot negotiate, when signal is stonger all works fine, and when it start to become weaker (for instance entering into a garage) I can still hear perfectly but people cannot hear me... assaid also even if I see a decent signal I cannot make any call, I can receive but when I try to answer I cannot say anything (I hear people but they cannot hear me at all)
So my question is:is there any "bios-like" settings that may influence the transmission power or I have to pre-pension my beloved blackstone... ?
All the rest works just perfectly...
Thanks for your he
Eventually does someone know if the tx and rx antennas are the same? Just to see if eventually it can be an internal damage to teh tx antenna...
Thanks for any help!
I hope you will forgive me for an up...
I had to put Blackstone in a drawer, it is impossible to use it unless the coverage is perfect...
seems you have a motherboard problem, what is your SN? 845 have gsm chipset
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I hope you will forgive me for an up...
I had to put Blackstone in a drawer, it is impossible to use it unless the coverage is perfect...
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I think this is absolutely normal if you are in low reception area. The phone (2W EIRP max) can not compare with the TX power of a base station (~1000W EIRP), so if there is a problem with the reception you shoud still be able to 'hear' the base station but the base station may have trouble 'hearing' you. It is not neccessary to have sepparate antennas for TX and RX, so it is safe to assume that the blackstone's antenna is the same, so the problem is not with your antenna. Still, you may try to see the RX level on your phone using the fieldtest application (search in XDA). Be sure to launch it during a call because the BTS is likely be configured to use the 1800 frequencies for calls (if available) and 900 mainly for signalling.
As for a tweak or application for boosting the TX power of the phone, I seriously doubt that there is one, because this is defined in the GSM standard and is controlled by the BTS, so the phone has little to say about it.
You can try to search for an application that forces the phone to identify itself as a 900 GSM only (unfortunately in the band setting there is no such option) and see if the problem is with the 900 -> 1800 'handover' when you make a call.
Of course you may try speaking to your operator's support and ask them to make some tests - like shutting down the 1800 frequencies of your cell in the middle of the night and trying to make a call, but it is highly unlikely that they will be willing to do that. Or even demand that they install some kind of repeater to cover your area.
Thanks guys, really appreciated!
Unfortunately however the problems looks really like the phone became "weaker" as, in the same area" after this "something" was really ok, better than the Diamond especially with the last radio releases. Network is there, and if it is not, is because the phone cannot "negociate" correctly its login onto (I am in the border between Germany and Luxembourg and there are quite few network but especially T-mobile was always ok if connected manually).
When i manage to connect it stays ok, I can hear everybody but they hear me "broken:
as soon as I am at home i will check the serial- I really think I will have to take to the doctor, hoping that is recoverable (it should be in warranty however...to be checked)
Just make sure you flash the original ROM with which the device came, because there have been numerous cases when HTC blames everything on the custom ROM and refuses to repair the phone.
My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
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My ADSL connection can do 13Mb download & 1Mb upload, all computers achieve (also on wireless) this using either speedtest.bbmax.co.uk or speedtest.net. However my HD2 can only achieve 3.5-4Mb max using the same sites, upload is represented correctly. It seems to fly up very quickly then back down, for upload it takes a few seconds to check the speed for both sites. I used Opera 10 (Flash Lite 3).
Also on HSDPA it can only do ~0.5Mb but when tested in dongle it achieves ~2.5Mb, upload is represented correctly (1Mb) for both Vodafone and O2.
I've also tried the wireless N hack but this hasn't improved things.
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There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
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There is no solution. HD2 performance on WI-FI are just bad. People don't care. The only justification they can give to this is "it's just a phone". Amen.
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
Also I meant just O2 for 0.5/2.5 HSDPA thing, just checked Vodafone and got 3.5Mb / 1Mb.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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That sucks, my mates Omnia is also pretty bad on WiFi so I assume this is a WinMo problem?
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I don't know. Maybe it's WinMo but I don't have other Windows Phones to make comparisons.
Also doesn't the "it's just a phone" thing kinda wear off when you cross the £500 mark?
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I agree but these are the people that appear here when you criticize their toy.
Maybe enabling wifi-n will speed it up. I'd at least give that a try.
Also, I did a test, and I get exactly what I get on my laptop which is 5644kbps
I have been having issues with HSDPA on my HD2 for some time. I am with T-mobile UK... what I have found is that when I hard boot/reflash a new rom... HSDPA is full speed. However something triggers what I can only think is a GPRS only mode, at first I thought I had installed apps that affected networking but I don't believe that is the case now.
Yesterday for example I was in a shielded building and had no reception whatsoever... when I came out I could not connect to T-Mobile data so restarted my HD2 a few times then setup data again.... I am connected now but internet connectivity is really slow, I generally stream music but I can't do this and I may as well forget about YouTube.
I have spoken to T-Mobile about this in the past and they said there are no restrictions on my account. I also know (havng proved it before) that by going through the hassle of a hard reset/new rom flash HSDPA with work again.
I wonder if this is IP related but I am not sure how to check the configuration on Winmo. I also am unsure how/where to do a speedtest (Speedtest.net needs an updated version of flash).
Managed to get it sorted out.... sent the Tmobile settings from the Tmobile website to my phone. Then in my ROM (OMEGA) there is a enable 3G mode.... This seems a bit flaky to be honest... Anyway I selected the new Tmobile internet settings option in Connections, then flicked the 3G setting in connection manager on and off a few times...
In the status bar, rather than "G" and a small "G" with reception meter both show as "H" (this will differ to the rom you have probably).... main thing is streaming is back again
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
boysanjose said:
Hello Everybody.
I am new with HTC HD2 1week only. The phone working everything OK, but only the WiFi internet it very slow. I did not configuration any from WiFi yet, just Turn on a wifi and enter ke router home network. When I click open the Opera (V10) display fast but search for another web look like Google.com then it will displaying 1min is it very slow. On my Wife Iphone is it very fast same network router at home.
If someone's to know same as my problem, and how to fixed it please help me. Thank you so much. Have a good day.
Danny
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I've generally found 3G to be faster than WiFi and even the ping in some situations on WM phones.
my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
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my phone also gets around 2 to 3Mbps on the speed test with the wifi.. 700 or so with hspda and 500 or so with 3g.
isnt this the max rate of the memory card? perhaps the phone itself is slowing down the results?
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3G speed depends heavily on the mast tech level and how many people are using it.
Hello. Just want to say that everything started after “some kind of update after 8.0”.
I tried all the official firmware, modems, etc. Nothing helped.
My problem:
1. Very long ping 4g / 3g (speed test by okla)
2. Even longer ping when uploading data with a very low speed (0.01mb)
3. During a conversation, my speech is interrupted, but I hear the other person perfectly
I put IPhone 7 near and got 40mb/30mb speed....
tested several sim-cards - same result.
I took "network cell info" from gplay and find that at -80dbm I loose Internet connection but iPhone 7 and Xiaomi RN2 with same network quality got 4g
Same result. And after the November firmware (that was not so fast but at least it worked) I only got even worst signal.