So the other day I was at work & I had a cup of hot cocoa. As I took a sip, a single drop fell onto my HD2, right on the buttons. There's no damage that I can notice, the buttons still work just fine, but they stick a little now. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could clean them? Ugh this is so annoying.
If something like this would happen to me I would clean it with cotton wool on a stick (no translation found ).
Drain the wool in water or a solvent and carefully try cleaning.
Hopefully this will work.
Good Luck
The problem is that it's actually down IN the buttons where I can't get to it. I heard somewhere that alcohol is safe to use in situations like this, that it won't fry electronics or cause damage.
kabuk1 said:
The problem is that it's actually down IN the buttons where I can't get to it. I heard somewhere that alcohol is safe to use in situations like this, that it won't fry electronics or cause damage.
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whatever you decide to use I would remove the battery first, clean as much as you can and then let it sit for like overnight at least before using it to make sure it's dry. I personally would probably use rubbing alcohol on an old t shirt, just enough to be wet without dripping, and dob at the area gently and try not to get it too wet. good luck.
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My HD dropped in the water. I dissembly it and let it dry for 3 days. Battery was only 30% charged. After 3 days when I switched it on it worked fine for 2 days but now it switched off and is not switching on again . I replaced battery but nothing happened. Any help ...
Normally speaking electronics would be able to handle the water if dried thoroughly and as quickly as possible (using a hairdryer is recommended) and it's the battery which dies on the spot and can actually explode. In your case tho it worked for 2 days after, so that's quite lucky.
If you haven't done it yet, there's a link in the wiki to the technical service manual which shows how to disassemble the phone to it's smallest parts. If you're up to it, you could see if there's anything turning brown\reddish. If so (or not) you could try clean everything as best possible (perhaps with some alcohol) and then try make use of your warranty...
Could very well be the powerswitch itself which is just sticking tho..
so sorry for you man!
That's too bad. I dunno if this will help you at this point since it's already been several days since it fell in the water, but I read that if you drop your phone in water, you should take whatever you can apart, dry them the best you can, and then submerge all of the parts in dry, uncooked rice. This is supposed to absorb all of the moisture from the parts. I actually used this technique once when my old phone fell in water and it worked perfectly.
I know this won't help you at this point, but it may help others...good luck.
BMW^Z4 said:
My HD dropped in the water. I dissembly it and let it dry for 3 days. Battery was only 30% charged. After 3 days when I switched it on it worked fine for 2 days but now it switched off and is not switching on again . I replaced battery but nothing happened. Any help ...
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Just a word of thumb to all people. Once the phone / battery has been submerged in water you need to discard the battery right away. Never use a battery that has been exposed to water again in your phone. That is how you fry a phone. I bet if you would have used another battery in your phone it might still work.
Too late for BMW^Z4, but to others:
If it was dropped in dirty or especially salty water, after taking it apart, before drying it, you may want to submerge/rinse it in even more clean water. Distilled water would be even better.
Any left over residue (especially salt) will accelerate corrosion of contacts and leads and could indeed cause it too fail a few days later.
Buy another one
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Just a word of thumb to all people. Once the phone / battery has been submerged in water you need to discard the battery right away. Never use a battery that has been exposed to water again in your phone. That is how you fry a phone. I bet if you would have used another battery in your phone it might still work.
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Which is why I said:
'If so (or not) you could try clean everything as best possible (perhaps with some alcohol) and then try make use of your warranty...'
If you take it back to the store and they (HTC) see you've used it as a submersible they'll turn you down and charge you for the repairs..
I dropped my phone in toilet too. Was in back pocket. I heard a clunk and turned around and noticed it was my phone. I quickly removed it. Took cover, battery, sim and sd card out and dried it with tissue. Then i used those super powerful Dyson heated hand driers to dry it as much as possible. It happened Monday night and I still have not tried putting in the battery. Now I don't know if I should try the battery or just buy a new one from the posts up. I am dreading it if it does not work. I would hate to have to buy another HD as they are so expensive. I guess toilet water is not considered clean. Hope no corrosion.
A friend send I should leave it overnight in white spirit but i did not trust him.
Hoping all is well.....
So sorry to hear this.
In another forum, somone accidentally pour coffee on his Athena.
Some one had suggested in another forum that you bury your HD with rice as the later has the moisture absorbing property. Of course, if it is dirty, you should wash it with clean water first.
I would leave it for a few days to let any water completely evaporate before trying on.
I think there may be hope still. Let's keep our finger cross.
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A friend send I should leave it overnight in white spirit but i did not trust him.
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Great way to dissolve the remains of your phone Hope your friend wasn't serious.
Unless he meant alcohol. He said he used to do it with laptops when they were sent in to repair to him.
What do you guys think? Should I try inserting my battery in again or not even try it and just buy a brand new battery?
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Unless he meant alcohol. He said he used to do it with laptops when they were sent in to repair to him.
What do you guys think? Should I try inserting my battery in again or not even try it and just buy a brand new battery?
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A couple people above you specificly stated to NOT use a battery that has suffered water damage. Get a new battery or risk frying your phone for good.
3 days
3 days may have not been enough unless you left it in a hot dry place. I once put an old nokia phone in the washing machine. When it came out it was full of water and the water had shorted and turned it off (obviously). I wrapped it in a couple of layers of toilet roll and pushed it down the back of the radiator. Water dropped out the bottom and steam went out from the top. This ensures there is no water left. Next (when fully dry) take some sandpaper to the battery connections in the phone and the battery. Water can oxidise the heads and you may not be getting a good connection. Try again and try a friends battery if that does not work.
Good luck (if its not already too late)
i think is too late but....
the better way to avoid definitive damages was an immediate extraction of battery and cards, rinsing in distilled water to avoid corrosion or salt deposition and put on gentle warm hair flux for a long long time.
polish any visible contact with very soft paper and replace with a new battery
pray if you believe and try to turn on
let us know good luck
giano
eaglesteve said:
Some one had suggested in another forum that you bury your HD with rice as the later has the moisture absorbing property. Of course, if it is dirty, you should wash it with clean water first.
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This is a very good idea! The rice will definitely absorb the moisture.
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Unless he meant alcohol. He said he used to do it with laptops when they were sent in to repair to him.
What do you guys think? Should I try inserting my battery in again or not even try it and just buy a brand new battery?
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http://video.about.com/cellphones/Revive-Waterlogged-Cell-Phone.htm
Check out that video for more information. I don't know if it will help but they don't mention about getting a new battery.
However I have heard differing reports.
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I dropped my phone in toilet too. ... I guess toilet water is not considered clean.
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I guess that depends if it was before or after....
Seriously, while urine is salty, conductive and corrosive, the actual water used in the toilet is in fact as clean as that out of your kitchen tap.
If you took it out that quickly, and if it was clean barely conductive water, the battery may not only not be damaged, it may still hold a charge. If you have a multimeter, and you can measure between 3 to 4 Volt, I am fairly sure the battery is fine. Though I am not taking responsibility....
Phone in water
Hi guys,
i just read the HTC water story. Clean it first with pure water (best distilled water) and then use pure alcohol and submerge the electroncis in it.
The water at first replaces the dirt water and washes away particles or solids. As water takes long time to dry alcohol is used to replace the water completely. Alcohol has also a much lower conductivity - therefore avoiding shortened circuits due to salts or similar.
Hope this gives some clarification...worked once in a museum where we had mobiles and they pretty regularly fell into the toilet
Have fun with your HTC,
Nils
I used thoses Dyson fast hand dryers - the ones where you dip your hands in and out. After seeing the video I hope I have not done more damage. I was in a public toilet when it happened so had no access to distilled water, alcohol or rice.
I will find out tomorrow if my phone works and will let everyone know. Fingers crossed.
I have already started looking online for a cheap secondhand HD so if anyone knows of one let me know. London based. I guess I don't have much condidence in the phone working.
I got you beat on that one, don't ask how, but I got coffee cream (liquid) on my HD. Broke it down to component level, cleaned, reassembled and everything is working fine. No corrosion, no battery loss. Luck of the draw I suppose. Now I always have HD in protective case.
today was a horrible day...
apparently leaving your g1 in your pants while they are in the wash doesnt work so well.
does not power on
anyone have any idea what can be done to bring it back or is it most likely fried
and if it is done then does anyone want to buy it as is?
I guess this is an excuse to get a g2
*UPDATE*
I guess no G2 for me just yet.
My phone works great now. Did not do anything special. Did disassemble the phone though so I can wipe down any residue i saw on main components such as the keyboard.
My advice to anyone that has this misfortune is not to rush things. I think i turned my phone on 2 days too early but I got lucky and it did not affect my phone. I figured this out because there was a lot of visible moisture in the screen when the backlight turned on. The keyboard was not functioning correctly either.
I did leave it in rice for about 36 hours but I do not really think that did much as far as the drying process goes. Best thing to do is go to a hardware store and pick up a torx driver set(mine was $4 at Home Depot and it was 36 piece set including torx philips hex slotted and pozi) open up the phone *be careful* of course and let it air dry for 3-4 days (not absolutely necessary to take apart the entire screen but if you feel comfortable go ahead). While it was open I wiped down the main board and the keyboard. I did not take apart the screen because I just did not want to take any other risks(mostly because i knew the screen worked) even though there was moisture, I knew it would eventually dry out. But the key to all of this was patience(I know its tough to go 3-4 days without your baby).
the link for the service manual is http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Most of the time, phones can live through the washer and live. You MUST take out the battery and do NOT attempt to turn it on for atleast 48 hours, as you will likely short out the phone. Put the phone in a big bag of rice to let it soak up the water, also use a blowdryer to help dry the phone out. However, your warranty is now void, and there likely will be some remnants of water within your screen.
Yep! worst thing you can do is turn that thing on (or try) before its dry.
my g1 hasnt had a bath but other phones have (none with touch screens) and i take as much apart as possible and leave it that way till the waters gone (then like 4 more days just to me sure )
artifical drying sources reccomended (dont get too hot!!!)
I have had it in rice for about 24 hours now and its sitting on top of my dvr because it gives off a little heat so it should help the process.
just remembered that i didnt remove the sd card...
i was thinking that since it was in the washer with detergent, shouldnt i have just removed the battery and try to clean it in some type of solution...
I have read about a alcohol solutions but kind of scared and i just noticed that there is condensation around the edges of the screen
I'd say take it apart, Blow dry what you can, leave the pieces in a warm area for a couple hours, and then try putting it back together and turning it on.
anybody know how sensitive the screen is because i want to try and blow some heat on it but not sure if it will damage it
best part about handset insurance cover lost or stolen phones...hint hint
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best part about handset insurance cover lost or stolen phones...hint hint
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good point but im on att network using the g1 unlocked...
plus i rather not cheat my way out of it because this is my own fault
good news and bad news...
first of all it powers on and boots fine. Secondly the screen seems to be working perfectly (touch and all)
bad news i might have turned it on too early because screen still had noticeable water spots all over it. The keyboard also just spews random letters and commands (ie one of the letters controls the volume)
other good news 1.5 has onscreen keyboard
anyone have any advice on how to go about fixing the keyboard?
Advise for fixing the keyboard: take it apart and clean it.
ok well im taking it apart to clean it out and i see some residue but what should i use?
microfiber cloth?
cleaned out as much as i could but seems like the menu button is now acting up while the keyboard is still messed up
Aside from parts made of paper, parts with thin films (like the lcd), speakers, batteries, or fine parts that are difficult to dry, you can do a very neat job with 99% iso alcohol followed by deionized (aka distilled) water. This includes most (but not all) plastic casing, buttons, pcb boards, etc. Follow up with a hair blowdryer set on low heat (or if you have an electric heatgun, even better).
Get a semi-shallow dish, fill it with the solvent, submerge the part and scrub it lightly with a soft toothbrush. (probably don't scrub for polished surfaces like the exterior casing). Then directly rinse it under a stream of the deionized water. Finally, clean the dish out, fill it with the di water and scrub with the brush.
^ almost exactly what I did to recover a "dead" water soaked phone. Worked great, and learned a lot about how the phone is built
couldnt find 99% near by but got 91% which im assuming should work...
is it ok if i use bottled water(kirkland)?
oh and the spots on the screen are still there (light and dark areas)
thanks for the help guys
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couldnt find 99% near by but got 91% which im assuming should work...
is it ok if i use bottled water(kirkland)?
oh and the spots on the screen are still there (light and dark areas)
thanks for the help guys
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I bought my 99% iso from Safeway. It comes in a 16oz container. Look for it in the medical supplies aisles. Don't use bottled spring/mineral water, as that contains... minerals. You need buy deionized (also referred to as distilled) water. Distilled water contains a significantly lower amount of mineral ion, which for the purpose of cleaning electronics would be considered contaminants.
Do the spots appear to be blotches of moisture? Perhaps there is fluid trapped between the various layers of the lcd.
ok ill go check out safeway tomorrow morning. thanks for clearing up the water thing.
it looks like its moisture because after leaving it off for about 5 or 6 more hours i saw a few spots fade a little bit.
I will take the screen apart tomorrow as well. Any special instructions on handling the screen or even cleaning it?
You might want to search for the service manual for the G1. It details a complete teardown and rebuild of the dream hardware.
some sort of a miracle just occured because my phone is not acting up at all anymore and i didnt even clean it with the alcohol solution yet.
Just woke up in the morning and turned on the phone and worked perfectly, with absolutely no problem with the keyboard(except that i think i forgot a screw and a few keys are a little loose) everything works fine.
only problem is that the screen still has what looks like condensation.
but the blotches in the screen seem to be slowly fading. Gonna pop it open right now and leave it out overnight.
thanks for the help
oh and the manual has a few mistakes in it as far as procedure goes but any person with common sense should be able to get past those
Damn, thats rough man. I dropped both my old phones in the toilet(damn you superbowl, damn you!!!)and both of them worked after taking them apart and drying them off but never really worked 100% the same...
Just a note too, those were non-touch screen phones.
Best of luck.
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i dont think so........
wow I want some lol wouldn't let it go near my nexus though.. Anyone tried it on anything?
Its alcohol based and water free so it can't cause shorts, the only damage a cleaner is likely to do
whats the point when your phone will get dirty the next time you unlock the screen or answer the phone when it place on your face? marketing gimmick at it's finest!
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whats the point when your phone will get dirty the next time you unlock the screen or answer the phone when it place on your face? marketing gimmick at it's finest!
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Uh... actually dirt and oils build up on devices after prolonged use. Wiping off the phone doesn't take everything off. Using the foam cleaner would take off all the buildup that results from use.
I'd use it...then just wipe it off regularly and use the foam once a month or so to disinfect and take off the grime buildup. Not sure about dropping $20 on it though.
Sounds good...I like my N1 clean & shiny!
I've heard you can just put a few drops of rubbing alcohol on your phone and rub till it dries for 1/100000000th of the price....
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I've heard you can just put a few drops of rubbing alcohol on your phone and rub till it dries for 1/100000000th of the price....
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I bought an adjustable spray bottle... the type with the screw nozzle to adjust from a stream to a mist. A FINE mist of alcohol works great... but foam is nifty. Anyway, I started doing that after trying Pledge for Electronics. It's obvious it's mostly alcohol.
I just wanted 2 share my experience about my power button getting wet twice and being unresponsive for 2 weeks after that it still works, anyone experienced this? Its amazing that it still works cause I left it upside down, power button dipped to water for 30mins(accidentally).
They should have called it HTC Wolverine instead of vision..
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From what I hear if you stuff your dunked phone into a bag of rice for a week or so, the absorbancy powers of the starch will pull out moisture. I can't actually verify this myself, but it is logical.
chances are is when it wouldn't turn on, there are water drops thats shorting something out, after leaving it dry for 2 weeks, it dried up and lucky for you it didn't create too much rust to disconnect the connections
and yes rice does a wonderful job at absorbing water =]
just ask any of your asian friends if you don't believe me
Bag of rice works 90% of the time, I work at a retail store and that's what we always recommend to our customers.
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I met a guy who worked at a repair store and he said that he would take apart water damaged/shorted phones and soak the components in rubbing alcohol. After leaving to dry he'd reassemble the phone and they'd come back to life.
Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Sounded crazy to me but he was convincing.
Rice works, I had to use it on the mytouch once, I've heard about the rubbing alcohol as well. Seems like rice and not taking apart your phone would be a better option if you're not comfortable taking apart your phone.
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I met a guy who worked at a repair store and he said that he would take apart water damaged/shorted phones and soak the components in rubbing alcohol. After leaving to dry he'd reassemble the phone and they'd come back to life.
Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Sounded crazy to me but he was convincing.
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if you're willing to take a part your phone, that would work wonders, but the problem is, the phone might not work not because it was wet, but you failed to put the phone back together =D
so i'd stick with rice if you don't know what you're doing
This is common with many electronic devices that get wet. Eventually, some of them come back to life on their own.
Nice to learn about the rice trick.
xda45 said:
I met a guy who worked at a repair store and he said that he would take apart water damaged/shorted phones and soak the components in rubbing alcohol. After leaving to dry he'd reassemble the phone and they'd come back to life.
Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Sounded crazy to me but he was convincing.
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Pretty common practice. The alcohol has a high rate of evaporation, so basically you can use it to displace all of the residual water and then let the alcohol naturally evaporate (usually all gone within a couple of minutes, if that long).
But yeah, using rice or any kind of desiccant is usually easier...
xda45 said:
I met a guy who worked at a repair store and he said that he would take apart water damaged/shorted phones and soak the components in rubbing alcohol. After leaving to dry he'd reassemble the phone and they'd come back to life.
Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Sounded crazy to me but he was convincing.
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During my time in the plumbers union when I had access to 100% isophopyl alcohol I used it to clean the most unholy gunk off of the tubes underneath heavy chemical sinks where flash memory wafers were produced. Despite its volatility, if used properly I can entirely envision parts being cleaned of oils and grime, let alone water. All you have to do is remove it from the equation, and since alcohol is a non-conductive expectorant I fully expect he was telling the truth.
If you attempt this do not use less than 90%. I do not believe 100% is available to consumers without commercial contacts, so you might be hard pressed to find a gallon jug. God knows, I'd give one of my less favorite toes for a self-renewing gallon of 100% IPA.
Edit: EFB with less wordy reply.
I fixed my power button and q tips but make sure you use 90% isopropyl. If anyone can't ever fix their power button I remember I found an app that re mapped buttons and I used it for my search key until I fixed mine.
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Hey guy. Just curious if anyone has any recommends for cleaning the mechanical home button. I dont get a good clean "click" , but moreso of a mushy touch due to either sweat or coffee or whatever may have gotten in there.
Works fine, but I dont want to pull apart the phone and risk damage. Any tips?!?
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Hey guy. Just curious if anyone has any recommends for cleaning the mechanical home button. I dont get a good clean "click" , but moreso of a mushy touch due to either sweat or coffee or whatever may have gotten in there.
Works fine, but I dont want to pull apart the phone and risk damage. Any tips?!?
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Dunk it in water! It always works for me! haha
Kidding of course. I suggest cleaning the crud around the button first with a flexible piece of plastic (Thin pry tool or a bent straw might do the trick). Adding any liquid in there might be risky... There are some dissasembly threads out there too which could help you get to the contacts, but it's not a job I recommend doing unless you're really comfortable with opening phones. I've botched an iphone 2G doing this before, so...
I recommend using high-percentage isopropyl alcohol (IPA). Avoid using water-ed down stuff. The IPA will evaporate quickly so it will not cause issues. IPA also cleans off organic residue very well as well. Make sure you do this at well-ventilated area because the fumes don't do good things to you.
Using lint-free cloth/paper for some good old physical scrubbing is good as well.