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I have tried unsuccessfully to purchase a Wing twice now. Last night I made a bid on a third one, however so much time has passed since I have been trying to get one that I am now out of time. I lost my phone last week and need a new one by Wednesday. In order to get my phone I will have to overnight it for early arrival on Wednesday. The total cost now puts me close to 400 which is the neighborhood of an iphone. When the iphone first came out I swore it was the phone for me but I wasn’t going to spend 600 for it. They have dropped in price to 399 for the 8 gig phone. I am going to have to unlock the phone though for T-mobile service which scares me a bit. I kept pretty close tabs on the whole unlock the iphone saga when it was first being done and it seemed that there was a pretty high failure rate at that time. A quick check on eBay reveals that there are a plethora of unlocked iphones for sale which tells me that they have perfected the process. So now I am at a cross roads. I can get the iphone tomorrow from an Apple store or AT&T’s stores. The Wing will have to be sent overnight if I can convince the seller to drop everything and run down to a FedEx office. So given the pros and cons of the purchase I see a pretty close match. Maybe I should be looking at the phones themselves. The processor on the iphone is way more powerful and so is the storage space. The thing I don’t like about the iphone is that it’s a mac which means I may have issues getting software for it on the open market. Then again it’s a seriously popular device and people may be writing all sorts of tools and software for it. It doesn’t have a dedicated keyboard either which I liked about the wing. So given the choice, should I seriously stick with the Wing or should I make the switch to the iphone? Opinions count but I would like to hear some concrete facts about the differences if I am to make a logical decision. Thanks in advance.
Have you considered you can walk into a Tmobile Store and get a wing for $349?
You talk about walking into an Apple Store vs. having a Wing shipped to you.... and that seems to be the deciding factor on which phone you're going to get. If you walk into a Tmobile store, you can get a Wing for $350 plus tax .... and if you walk into an Apple store, you can get an iPhone for $399 plus tax.
actually I cant get the wing for 349. It's a real pisser and if that was true I would have done that a week ago. I lost my phone (V3 Razor) about a week ago. The first thought that came to mind was go to T-mobile and get a new phone. My second thought was to upgrade into something like the Wing. I didn't know it existed at the time, but I thought that it would be a nice iPhone substitute at 350 since I believed the iphone to be 600. As it turns out I am 10 months away from my contract ending with T-mobile. I am 8 months away from qualifying for any T-mobile phone rebates. The Wing is 499 retail with 100 instant rebate and 50 mail in all of which require 2 additional years of contract. T-mobile will not allow me to extend my contract until I am 2 months or less from my current contract expiration. So to that end and to your point, the phone is not 350 to me it is 499 to me. That is why I started my search on eBay. I thought then as I think now, I can get a better deal on the Wing through eBay. However, I had the damnedest luck on this particular auction. I bid and won my first auction about 5 days ago and have not heard 1 word from the seller regarding the close of the auction. I believe he died and luckily I hadn't sent him any money. Maybe someday I will hear from the guy but at this point he wont respond to any emails nor has he complained about me not paying for the auction. I decided to try again and won a second auction for 255 on the wing. Great deal I thought until I actually paid for the auction only to find out that he already sold the phone to another party as well as collecting payment from me too. Now I have to deal with that big pile of crap but I still need a phone. So here I am needing to win yet another auction for my wing or I can just go to an At&t store and pick up the iphone.
Tough decision to make, one that i considered also. A couple of things to note first is:
Longevity: Remember iphone 2.0 is already in the works and might drop by the end of next year. Also remember T-Mobile's 3g service should start seeing implementation beginning next year. So now the question is, how long are you planning on keeping this phone? Another thing to consider is resale value if you opt to get another phone next year. I would assume an iphone in great condition should have a higher resale value over time than the wing.
Specs: iPhone is more powerful than Wing and also has more storage, has a multitouch display that is larger and with higher resolution.
UI and OS: iPhone beats Wing hands down for STOCK UI and OS, athough it is an unfair advantage. Apple made OSX on the iPhone from the ground up. It only has one platform to work with whereas WM6 is created to be cross-platform and work for different SP, PPC, and PDA that all have different specs and components. Although the dev comm definitely did an outstanding job of making wm6 more user friendly, and with upgrades to wm6 like Shadows's UI and Android around the corner, we'll see how this develops.
Dev. Community: Apple is releasing a SDK for iPhone early next year, so you should start seeing software for iPhone given enough time. Wing has an established dev comm as you can see - xda (The best!), modaco, howardforums, and others.
Apple vs. Microsoft: Which is the lesser of two evils?
Warranty: unlock your iPhone and you just voided your warranty. At least with wing something happens to it, you should be able to have T-Mobile help you in some way. At least, i would think.
Personally, i'm happy with my Wing. It might be no iPhone, but then again no other is. It's the little device that could, and while there are more powerful phones on the market, it still holds it own. Plus i like the idea that i can abuse it more than the iPhone. I feel HTC makes quality phones and i can't wait to see if T-Mobile releases HTC Touch Cruise for its 3g service (please, please, please). Plus, it's not a F'ing Sidekick! lol.
Unless you are in dire need of a pda phone right now, i would buy a cheap phone for the time and wait until the next round of pda phones come out. Take a look at the ATT tilt, for instance, much more powerful than the wing and im sure we'll see a price drop pretty quick.
Have you considered this?
http://www.fatwallet.org/forums/messageview.php?catid=18&threadid=733578
This is where I bought my wing, when the price was $49 after rebate, now it's $79 with free bluetooth headphone. You do need to sign-up another one year contract (no activation fee, free 2-day shipping) with Tmobile though, but you can combine your twon lines to a family plan and save some $$.
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unless you are within 2 months of your current contract expiring, you can not renew your contract with tmobile. Your account must be 60 days to contract expiration before you can get any rebates or discounts applied to your phone. I have mentioned that twice so far. It's a very important tip to pass on and to keep in mind with your own upgrade decisions in the future. If I qualified for any sort of assistance I would have bought the wing long ago.
FYI..I ended up with 3 failed auctions for the wing. Very strange situatation to say the least. In the end I went with the iphone but I am starting to wonder if that was a wise choice considering all the trouble I have had with it over the last week. I attempted for 48 hours straight to hack the iphone for use on t-mobile service. Apple has released an update sometime last month that pretty much locks the phone down for the next couple of weeks or months. Someone will surely figure out a way around it but for now its damn near impossible. I decided to sign up with att service and only after a week of fooling with this phone did I finally get it working today. About 6 hours after finally getting the phone up and running did I discover that it doesnt have VOIP support. Now at first glance that might seem like a meaningless attribute but this was the primary reason for me starting this little adventure of phone upgrading. I am going to start a new thread because I have more to tell and need help in making a choice.
if you use your phone almost like laptop then you won't like the iPhone. You will for for a little while till the wow factor wares off. It's definately pretty and very nice with all its tricks but the simple things it cant do. Some 3rd party apps attempt to fix this but it doesnt work all too well.
You'll take things for granted such as browsing to a site to download something and email it as an attatchment to someone or yourself.
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.
I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho
Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
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i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone
T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.
I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.
I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).
If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?
Zoltair Wright said:
the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)
Zardos66 said:
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.
t140568 said:
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.
Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.
Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol
If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....
well i've just seen all the lovely things verizon has in store...is this phone going to last long? at all......... Verizon is putting out 1.3 ghz phones in a month or soi love the fascinate but it struck a nerve when i paid 100 off wirefly for it and now its only 9.99.......THE HELL it makes me feel like a jack ass or if the phone is dubed obsolete already?
How many times have you asked your self this question through out life? I'm sure it's rather redundant. There will always be better things coming out. I myself just upgraded from the Droid and it feels like I have downgraded for the time being while development is in the works. Phones are phones. How much faster can one phone be than another? .3 secs?
hm ur right but i dunno when i bought my tp2 i was fully satisfied but now compared to my fascinate my tp2 is a bulky lumber yard full of crack whores on sleeping drugs....man is it ****ing slow!~ lol but i get your point
Technology changes too fast these days. Anything you buy will be obsolete within a few months, as there is ALWAYS something better coming down the line. Just pick a spot and jump in, and don't look back. If you have issues with commitment, pay the extra $70 to get the phone on a 1 year contract (that's Verizon pricing) like I do. Still a reasonable price for the phone, and I get to upgrade every 10 months.
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Hey there!
First post since making my account close to two years ago
I just recently purchased a Galaxy Tab through Rogers w/o a contract. It was pretty much a impulse buy. After going on here and reading what I could do to the device, I caught glimpse of some threads saying to hold off for the Xoom and some other tablets that are coming out.
I own a iPhone4, Macbook Pro (13") and a Alienware M17x (17").
The thing I love most about the Galaxy Tab is the form factor. I find the size comfortable. Reading about the new tablets with dual core processors and 10" + screens is exciting tho. Currently in Canada the Tab's are not cheap I paid $755 including taxes. I do have 15 days to return the Tab.
Should I return it and wait for something new? or do you think if or when honeycomb is ported over it will still be able to compete with the xoom or some of the newer tablets of 2011.
Thanks! Sorry for the long post, thought I'd make it a good one to break my XDA cherry
-Geby.
prices will drop. return it.
yeah, return it and wait for the next new shiny thing to be released, but then hang on because the next even more shiny and even newer thing will be on the horizon so best wait for that. Oh, don't buy that version because it will be out of date when the next new bit of kit comes along.
Enjoy what you have, so if it's out of date in 18 months sell it then and buy something newer.
I reckon that my 'tech fund' for phones etc costs me about £10 a week - money well spent.
Just for the record, there is no way I'd part with my Tab or my X10
keep it, it's always best to buy "newer" units after 6 months since its release. (better prices, no more bugs, updated firmwares etc)
dont even think twice take it back i just got 2 of them 3 days ago and find it to get boring seeing that it does not work as good as it should esp iu had 750 in 2 and decided to f it there will be the tab 2 in june plus the moto xoom
geby86 said:
Hey there!
First post since making my account close to two years ago
I just recently purchased a Galaxy Tab through Rogers w/o a contract. It was pretty much a impulse buy. After going on here and reading what I could do to the device, I caught glimpse of some threads saying to hold off for the Xoom and some other tablets that are coming out.
I own a iPhone4, Macbook Pro (13") and a Alienware M17x (17").
The thing I love most about the Galaxy Tab is the form factor. I find the size comfortable. Reading about the new tablets with dual core processors and 10" + screens is exciting tho. Currently in Canada the Tab's are not cheap I paid $755 including taxes. I do have 15 days to return the Tab.
Should I return it and wait for something new? or do you think if or when honeycomb is ported over it will still be able to compete with the xoom or some of the newer tablets of 2011.
Thanks! Sorry for the long post, thought I'd make it a good one to break my XDA cherry
-Geby.
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$755??? WTF!!! Return it, drive across the border and buy one for $300
Yeah- at that price I'd take it back and scout around for a cheaper one. If you don't find it in a month or so then wait for the next version.
You can always argue that the next one will be better, but with an upgrade cycle now for most phone-tablets-electronic devices of about 6 months you have to draw the line somewhere and get something. Otherwise you will be like the couple that keeps putting off having a child until they can afford it, or have the time for it. It never happens!
Or, if you wait to long to make up your mind and the return period runs out you can always send it to me. I could use a nice gift right about now
I agree, got mine at Tmo about 3 weeks ago for $350.00 on contract; went back to the store tdy and got $. 50 back on my ccard and $ 50 mail back rebate: = $ 250.00 total cost I figured will use it for 6 to 9 months and by then the prices of the new models will be way better than at launching...
I bought one today for $533 new from Best Buy. I didn't sign up for a plan cause I have free hotspot on my EVO, so it doesn't make sense to pay Sprint $30 a month for what I have free. I've connected it to my Evo and it works great....BUT I am wondering if I should have waited on the tab 2 or spend a little more and get the Xoom.
Hey guys and gals. The money wasnt a huge issue with buying the tab. The main thing was if i should wait a month for something better. Looking on ebay i see that you guys are dead on about the prices. Which carriers are compatible with my rogers 3G?
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I need to keep up. Just picked up a used i9100 for the wife here on XDA last week. I could have given my i9100 to her and bought this. Now I want it and already we have 2 i9100s. I am hesitant to sell mine because it would make a great back up although it would go far to bring down the initial cost.
We are upgrade ready at ATT but I don't want a Carrier device and don't want to blow my upgrades on phones that won't bring a premium like we got with a couple of iPhone 3GS before they went to all the carriers.
Since we don't have LTE here and it's not expected until 2013 we are on the UL data dumb phone 3G+ plans. We use over 200MB but well under 2 GB a month so I did not want to pay $30 each for data. $10 each is great and offsets the cost of the devices as well.
That said the Dell streak failed but somehow I think the Note will be the device to have for those of us who want a bigger screen and a tablet but don't to carry around a bevy of technology.
Edit your Subject .. "i1900"
You are missing a lot by not getting the GNote,I also kept my HD2 for backup,but I'm afraid the battery will totally run out flat dead since its never been used for over six Weeks now.
My wife thinks my lifespan will be extended at least by couple of years after buying this gadget!!!.