Phone Shutdown - Forced Reboot when using AC power adaptor - Epic 4G General

I'm on Syndicate ROM 1.0.1a and LOVING IT. However, don't think this is a ROM related issue - wanted to solicit feedback from other users on their experience:
When I shut down my Epic and its connected to AC power adaptor (e.g. provided wall wort or accessory charging dock) it just reboots. Never shuts down.
Minor inconvenience. No biggie. Just strange. When I'm on USB power from my Win 7 PC it shuts down and I get the LPM green battery charging as expected. If I unplug the USB charger (form PC) and place back on charging dock, it powers up.
Is this a "feature" of wall charging from an AC adapter on this phone?

codest3r said:
Is this a "feature" of wall charging from an AC adapter on this phone?
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Nope, definitely not. And you're right, it's not a ROM bug.

You'll probably need a replacement phone, sorry to say - sounds like the overvoltage protection circuitry is a bit trigger-happy on your device.

I am now starting to see this on my Epic. very strange indeed. anyone else seeing this?
Thanks,
JD

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Now my phone won't charge

Totally stock (but i don't think it matters).
Plug the phone in, orange LED comes on.
Hold it or place in on the counter five seconds later, LED is off.
Had the phone since 6/4.
Anyone else having issues?
Are you using the AC charger ? I have two Evos and one of the chargers does what you are describing. The orange LED comes on and then goes off after a while and the phone stops charging. Does it on both phones, the other charger works fine with both usb cables.
Are you using the USB charger with a computer or laptop or plugging straight into the wall with an AC charger?
This does make a difference because if you are charging with a USB + laptop combination you could be suffering from the computer going to sleep and disabling the USB ports power to conserve laptop battery life. If you are having the issue when plugging into the wall, try plugging into a computer and selecting the "Charge Only" option when your USB debug comes up. Once it does this, allow it to charge for a period of time and then turn the phone off, switch to AC power plug and see what happens.
Perhaps you had some kind of over voltage spike on the charger through the AC plug. I could see it possibly tripping something in the phone to stop taking charge to protect the handset.
Also make sure if you do use a laptop, use a USB 2.0 or better port. More power and faster connection. Gotta love it.
Your charger may not be sourcing enough current anymore (for whatever reason). I have seen the exact same behavior with USB car chargers that were only sourcing 100-150mA.
Have you tried plugging the USB cable into a modern desktop PC? (Some laptops have reduced current ports, so a desktop is a safer bet)
Its definitely a current issue. I tried to charge my phone using my bluetooth headset's wall charger, but I got the behavior you are describing. The bluetooth headset's charger just doesnt put out enough current.
Are you using the charger that came with the phone? if so, you may want to exchange the charger...
im having the same problem when i connect it to my desktop, it sees it for about 2 secs n then disappears. My computer at work has no problem seeing the phone. i wonder if i need a driver or something for my usb ports, anyone have any ideas??
tarheelsmj12001 said:
im having the same problem when i connect it to my desktop, it sees it for about 2 secs n then disappears. My computer at work has no problem seeing the phone. i wonder if i need a driver or something for my usb ports, anyone have any ideas??
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Probably not a driver issue, but that that rail from the power supply is either undervolted (say 4.6V instead of 5V), or can't provide enough current (amperage) or both. If I recall correctly, the Evo needs 5V @ 1A (+/- 3% tolerance).
Phone not charging
my phone has been charging fine since I got it... even been using the night desk clock app while sleeping at night for the alarm with it plugged in... everything was good...
With my phone about to die today, I plug it in to the wall charger, the led/batter indicator shows that it is charging... then POW.. it says I have a low battery and it needs to be plugged in... WTH??? it is plugged in!
The only thing I did today was flash the new boot.img for the cap fix over in Toast's thread...
Weird thing now is that I took my hero battery and put it in my EVO, plugged it into wall charger, and it stays charging... So, I put my EVO battery in my hero, plugged it in, and whola... it's now charging...
Please help as I am baffled.
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The only thing I did today was flash the new boot.img for the cap fix over in Toast's thread...
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that's your problem right there. that custom kernel is known to have charging issues.
I'm having the same issue with my car charger consistently. Plus my AC charger less consistently. For example, I'll go to bed and plug it in, the next morning I wake up and see the phone is at 80% charge and isn't charging. At some point over night, it gave up. This is with the stock charger too.

Impossible to charge sg2 in car

Hi all, just came 3 days ago from an htc hd2, and so far I am more than happy with it.
I have only one complaint and maybe you guys will help me sharing your experience : I can't charge this phone in my car while using gps.
It seems that the power adapter is not powerful enough to charge the phone screen on.
The car charger has a 5v 1000ma output, more than the regular wall charger provided by Samsung and it was working well before with my HD2 so I have no clue about this problem.
Did you experience that issue too, else can you share what car charger do you use?
try to buy new standard car charger with micro plug.. 13 eur and you will be saved..
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Charger doesn't matter unless the phone is dropping into USB charging mode - phone limits to around 600-650 mA by default.
Custom kernels can bump this limit up for I9100 users. I777 users are screwed - we've got a crippled charger chip.
I had the same problem, I used the samsung one, useless, so I used my iPad charger, which is 2A, and charges the iPad quick, still useless. We drove from Bathurst NSW, down to Melbourne, about 10 hour drive, plugged in all the way using GPS, and about an hour from home, the connect to charger warning came on!! So once I stopped GPS, it started taking charge. Looks like when the phone is in use, it draws more then it takes charge, plus I read somewhere on here the phone is limited on the charge it takes, so using the 2A does nothing different then the stock 500mA charger.
I always had this problem with my Nexus One, although they are different phones, the problem is the same, uses more power then it can recharge in USB mode.
After trying 3 or 4 different charges I remember that I found one ultra-cheap 'made in taiwan' from a street seller that worked very well.... so it's kind of a lucky shot!
good luck!
Im using a genuine Samsung SGS2 charger and I can charge and run Sygic just fine. I started my journey with 80% and 40mins later I was up to 91% when I stopped and got out. (not in aeroplane mode..)
Very interesting feedbacks... So that confirm that is clearly not a matter of output amperage power.
It is now the same problem on the galaxy tab 10.1, for quickly charge this tab you need the Samsung compatible usb adapter.
It can be likely with a tab bringing a proprietary plug, but I didn't thought it will be the same with a Samsung phone bringing a regular micro usb plug. Quite frustrating and disappointing!
I will search around a micro plug car charger as suggested by redzion, but actually I don't clearly see the difference with my usb charger + a micro usb cable.
Double post, sorry.
If I use the usb cable from my cd player I have the same problem but if I use the official Samsung car charger Ithe only problem I have is the phone getting stupid hot
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Oh Samsung, when you will understand?!
Samsung DOES follow the USB charging standard - it goes to its highest current setting when a charger that follows the standard is connected.
Note that iPad/iPhone chargers do NOT follow the standard - Samsungs will treat these as USB hosts and limit to 450 mA instead of 600-650.
Modified kernels can increase both of these values on I9100s.
The only thing Samsung really did **** up is counting screen/CPU current usage against the charge current limits - that's just stupid.
So the charger has smarts. On the i9000 factory chargers, the data pins were bridged. Bridging these pins manually on a USB cable when connecting to a USB source (such as a PC) enabled full current charging. You can see this in Settings -> About; it will say either USB or AC charging.
Do you think this is the case with the i9100?
I don't condone testing this theory on your i9100. Increasing the max current via custom ROM may be a safer solution.
I had the same problem. Two things fixed it for me:
1) I bought this charger: Sony Ericsson AN300 Micro USB 10€
2) I am using a custom kernel now
Any charger that is rated at 1000mA or more (per port) will do just fine. The problem is the cable - you need a quality microUSB cable, or it won't provide all the juice you need. I had the same issue, and I swapped three chargers until I found the real culprit.
Try with the charger you have now and the mUSB cable that was in the phone box - it should work well with that one.
I just press the power button to turn the screen off. when i need the sat nav i press the power and it still tracks you so there is no delay. With the screen off it does charge.
same problem
Duffman19 said:
I just press the power button to turn the screen off. when i need the sat nav i press the power and it still tracks you so there is no delay. With the screen off it does charge.
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You are right, but even if it is better than nothing the charging time is still a big problem.
Yesterday I drove for at least 40mn phone off. Arrived to destination, I turn the device on: it charged only from 0 to 5%
I would like to test the mariusi theory concerning the Samsung micro usb cable, unfortunately on my SgsII box I just have a wall charger, no a microusb-usb cable.
Entropy512 said:
Samsung DOES follow the USB charging standard - it goes to its highest current setting when a charger that follows the standard is connected.
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Is there a way to know before buying if the charger respect this charging standard?
I have some cheap usb chargers here and no one is a fast as the one provided by Samsung.
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The only thing Samsung really did **** up is counting screen/CPU current usage against the charge current limits - that's just stupid.
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Maybe for safety purpose? Gps phones can become very hot behind the car glass.
Samsung are trying to "encourage" you to buy only their official accessories. To do this they've wired something differently in their chargers and cables. This "problem" exists on the Galaxy Tab too and can be solved with this adapter...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-car-w...ccessories&hash=item2c5c07736b#ht_3084wt_1163
It's cheap and turns a trickle charge into a full charge. I don't know the specifics of what they've done, but their USB charging just isn't the same as most others manufacturers.
Archer said:
It's cheap and turns a trickle charge into a full charge. I don't know the specifics of what they've done, but their USB charging just isn't the same as most others manufacturers.
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Great find.
Pretty sure it just bridges the data pins.

[Q] Overnight: Charging to 100%, then discharging while still connected?

Hi there,
got a strange problem.
I plug in my N4 in the evening, it is loading up to 100% and there it begins to DISCHARGE (or in other words, stops to hold the battery at 100%) although still connected to the charger. In the morning I unplug the phone and have just around 70% left ... see attached screenshot.
Using stock charger and cable that came with the phone.
I hope this is not intended by Google? Running Android 4.2.1 Stock.
is this the only time it happened?
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
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KyraOfFire said:
It is probably because of the charger. They definitely didn't include the best charger out there try another charger, you'll see improvements.
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Thanks! Used my equipment (powered USB hub with another micro USB cable) from old phone until yesterday, and read about charging problems when NOT using the charger and cable that came with the N4. To see if that is maybe the problem I therefore unpacked the "stock" cable and charger - but it didn't solve the problem.
The most strange thing is, that it charges perfectly up to 100%! I would expect then that it stops charging to avoid overloading, but that holds the charge level at 100% until unplugged. I think this logic is not within the charger, but controlled by the phone itself (Software / Hardware Unit)?
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is this the only time it happened?
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Have the N4 about 1 week now and I realized this happening at least 4 times now. I'm usually plugging it in every evening and unplug it in the morning.
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Locksmith81 said:
Its intended as a safety measure so it doesn't over charge when its 100 percent.... It's always been that way
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Hmmm ... never experienced this 15 years mobile phones (at least 4 of them using Android and tons of different ROMs ...). What would be the purpose to plug in your phone in at 22pm, stop charging at 1am and begin the fresh day at 7am with again 30% loss of capacity? I would need to carry my charger stuff all day with me ...
As I said, I fully understand that it stops charging at 100% to avoid overloading - and also see the sense in this here -, but usually it should HOLD it at 99-100% until you unplug and not lose capacity while still connected to the charger.
Cheers
did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
Just found this one ... maybe I'm not explaining my case very well, but it seems I am not alone ...
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39919
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did you plug it into a USB hub that was plugged into a computer? that might be your problem. My N4 has issues charging from USB ports... it never holds charge properly.
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This happened to me previously, ended up swapping my charger back to my Samsung OEM one and havent had the problem again.
Another time that this could happen is if you're charging via your USB port on your computer and you shutdown your computer which it will still show the charging icon but the status says not charging which could be changed by replugging the phone and/or having BIOS settings that enable usb power draw etc...
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Yesterday I used the wall plug. All the years before I used a SEPARATELY POWERED usb hub. Even if the PC is shut, the hub provides power to the ports. Anyway, it doesn't matter - Charging is working perfectly on wall plug, usb hub, stock cable, non-stock cable ... before reaching 100% and phone disscharges. Picture in 1st post illustrates the disscharge while still "charging" (last bar at the bottom)
it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
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it's def. not normal. mine doesn't discharge, it can stay plugged in all night and it'll say 'CHARGED'
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Exactly what I would expect! Now that I found the others on code.google.com having the same issue I think there was a batch of devices having it and that I might need to RMA ...
Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
Are you using stock kernel?
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Well the reason why I was mentioning the charger (unless you've tested another one) is because I was using the original LG oem charger and for a while it would give inaccurate readings on multiple occasions. Example being I woke up (used wall charger) and it said 70-80% and the charge icon was still there but on the status it said 'not charging'. Another time was when it said 96%, unplugged and replugged and it charged to 100%. Then I use the phone for a couple of seconds and it drops down percentage again 96%~ and when/if charged it will say 100% again (giving a false reading).
I was thinking it was the cord because I used my bro's LG charger and it charged the phone 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 and not 96 -> 100% therefore the cord may have been the problem. Went back to my Samsung OEM charger and it has been fine since then and never had any discharging.
Are you using stock kernel?
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I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! The "event" invoking the disscharge to me is the reach of 100%. Maybe this is a misbehavior of the overloading protection, to stop charging (as intended), but not restarting to charge at lets say 99% or 98% to get back to 100%. This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnectfrom time to time to trigger the charging again.
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I'm on 4.2.1 stock yes.
Thing is, that I'm not plugging it out! While being connected it suddenly starts to disscharge - Why the heck would you disscharge when you have a power source connected?! This would mean that when I'm using navigation in my car I would need to reconnect once and then to trigger the charging again.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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Yeah I know what you mean but its odd that I had this problem as well but disappeared when I swapped.
As for my USB/PC, that charges when the computer is on and off but when I turn it off, I would have to replug the phone to get it started again as it will have the same "charging icon" w/o it actually charging. My guess is that if the power source loses its power, even if its temporary it will stop charging. But when I using my Skyrocket a few months back I never had to replug the phone onto my computer to get it charging again but I do know that the computer will temporarily cut off power when you shutdown and bring it back to charge plugged devices. (didnt change any power states in BIOS).
So most likely it is something with the phone but it could also be a setting or some software error triggering a fail-safe or something.
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I see definitely some issues in the charging logic in both of our cases here. You shouldn't have to replug your phone if you send your PC to sleep, as long as it still outputs the USB power. Since I would not expect the decision to charge or not to charge in the wall plug or in the USB hubs, I can only hope it is not a hardware problem of the charging electonic, but a software problem which could be patched. Also wouldn't I wonder if this has to do with the wireless charging option of the phone ...
come to think of it i had the same problem. charging from the PC when off via USB it would do the same thing as OP. charging through the wall works fine.
Well just found out I am maybe reposting the issue as I didn't find this initially ... similar (or same?) problem described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031246

Weird charging issue

I usually charge my phone using USB while in the office. At home, I'll use the supplied wall AC adapter.
I've noticed that even though I'm using the AC charger, the stock battery display will show Charging (USB), which is not the case. Power cycling the AC charger usually fixes it to show Charging (AC).
Have also noticed that in some instances when it's plugged into the AC charger, the charging status would switch between "charging" and "not charging". Very obvious in the notification battery icon, where I would see the lightning symbol appear and disappear, about every half second.
I think there's an issue with the AC charger, or maybe it's the charging circuit in the phone?
Anyone experienced something like this before?
Cheers
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I usually charge my phone using USB while in the office. At home, I'll use the supplied wall AC adapter.
I've noticed that even though I'm using the AC charger, the stock battery display will show Charging (USB), which is not the case. Power cycling the AC charger usually fixes it to show Charging (AC).
Have also noticed that in some instances when it's plugged into the AC charger, the charging status would switch between "charging" and "not charging". Very obvious in the notification battery icon, where I would see the lightning symbol appear and disappear, about every half second.
I think there's an issue with the AC charger, or maybe it's the charging circuit in the phone?
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Sounds like a hardware issue. If you want to run the test yourself, you can try swapping the charger with another OEM Nexus 4 charger (don't try to get around this). But I'd contact Google about this if I were you.
Might be the stock charger if thats what your using i had the same prob and sometimes but battery would either stay on the same percent for a while or go down so chanhed the charger and its been working fine ever since i still use the stock box charger i just changed the cord
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casonswag said:
Might be the stock charger if thats what your using i had the same prob and sometimes but battery would either stay on the same percent for a while or go down so chanhed the charger and its been working fine ever since i still use the stock box charger i just changed the cord
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^ this...
i had similar issue..when plugged it shows charging/discharging..if charging it will be slow as hell..swap cable all good..
throw away the original cable try a different one..
Thanks. Will give it a shot and see how it goes.
Do you guys think this is a charging issue? Temp is very high but still continues to charge at AC level. I have switched out my power bricks and cable but still have the same result.
Noctus Nosfuratsu said:
Do you guys think this is a charging issue? Temp is very high but still continues to charge at AC level. I have switched out my power bricks and cable but still have the same result.
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It is due to temperature I believe. I have observed this behavior closely for a long time, so I'm almost certain this is the cause. I've seen it on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. I can't tell you offhand the exact temperature they stop charging at, but I can tell you it's most likely between 50°-60° Celsius. You've got to let your devices cool off. It may be a pain, but it protects your hardware, so when it stops charging, your phone is saying "Hey partner, you think you could let me cool down for just a second? Is that too much for you or what? What's your problem, you dingdong?"..
... Or something like that. If that's not exactly what it says, it's very close.
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It is due to temperature I believe. I have observed this behavior closely for a long time, so I'm almost certain this is the cause. I've seen it on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. I can't tell you offhand the exact temperature they stop charging at, but I can tell you it's most likely between 50°-60° Celsius. You've got to let your devices cool off. It may be a pain, but it protects your hardware, so when it stops charging, your phone is saying "Hey partner, you think you could let me cool down for just a second? Is that too much for you or what? What's your problem, you dingdong?"..
... Or something like that. If that's not exactly what it says, it's very close.
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Ah I see. Anyways, I have used my cousins nexus 4 and every time the temp goes over 38 degrees, the charge rate drops down to USB. Mainly why I asked haha. Yah its a pain from time to time LOl
dzel said:
^ this...
i had similar issue..when plugged it shows charging/discharging..if charging it will be slow as hell..swap cable all good..
throw away the original cable try a different one..
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Same here. Worked out for me it was a dodgy cable. Using the supplied cable through a laptop, I will also from time to time get the plugged/unplugged notification on the computer, which being audible made me realize how often it was happening.
The supplied charger brick now seems to work flawlessly with a different cable (ie, always says AC, no odd charging/not charging behaviour, etc).
Try that and see how you go.
I guess it's the cable. I've tried using a generic ebay cable and it appears to be working fine now.
What sort of mA values are you getting when using the stock AC charger?
Battery Monitor widget says that the phone's only getting around 500mA when I believe it should be getting more than that. I've enabled the USB fastcharge in the options. and have left everything at default. This is after waking up the phone from standby. Keeping the screen on drops the charge rate to 200mA thereabouts.
No music playing, 3G and connected to a wifi access point.

Charging problems

I just got my Note 3 working thanks to this group. When I first got it, it was without a battery and was locked by PIN. I was able to wipe it to factory conditions, but now it will not charge. It charged right away when I first got a replacement (OEM) battery, but then, I did the system factory reset, and now it will not charge. I am using a USB 3.0 cable and connecting this to my Apple charger I got with my iPhone 6 as I don't have a specific charger that might have come with the Note 3...just a generic USB 3.0 cable and the iPhone 6 charger that the USB cable plugs into. Any thoughts for me to try?
Try plugging the cable into a computer. It might not charge fast but it will let u know if it will charge or not. Iphone charger might not be compatible so battery will not charge.
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Try plugging the cable into a computer. It might not charge fast but it will let u know if it will charge or not. Iphone charger might not be compatible so battery will not charge.
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I have tried using the computer and that is part of my confusion...the phone will indicate it is charging...but it doesn't. I get the same indication whether I am using the computer with USB 3.0 cable, or using various wall charger pods with the same cable. It will show the charging symbol (lightning bolt) or, if turned off, but plugged in, it will show the upflowing green drops rising toward the battery. So, it seems to indicate it is charging, but the charge percentage never increases...only drops.
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I have tried using the computer and that is part of my confusion...the phone will indicate it is charging...but it doesn't. I get the same indication whether I am using the computer with USB 3.0 cable, or using various wall charger pods with the same cable. It will show the charging symbol (lightning bolt) or, if turned off, but plugged in, it will show the upflowing green drops rising toward the battery. So, it seems to indicate it is charging, but the charge percentage never increases...only drops.
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It's not unheard of for a brand new battery to be defective. If you know someone else with a Note 3...try swapping batteries with then and see if the problem moves with the battery.
There is nothing in a factory refresh that would effect the charging circuit.
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