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Gingerbread officially released! How long will it take for it to come to Leo?

here you can read more about our beloved new version of Android, version 2.3!
sooo, im' asking you, how long do you think it will take to our developers to have it running smoothly on leo?

How the hell should we know ???

There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?

pr0x2 said:
There are so many devs on xda for HD2 it's just a race now lol.
Is the SDK downloadable already?
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Yup!
10char

I already gave infinitybiff the system.img from the 2.3 sdk. So, soon people!
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OMG Ur Really Asking a Dumb question
It Will Take As Long As Xda Developers will take dont worry about it and let them do their hobbie(they arent getting paid for it) and eventually we will get it this thread will most likey jst pressure them more

Why Flame Just because someone asks a question?
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Agreed. =)

Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)

doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?

lomniom said:
Agreed. =)
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Agreed It wasn't pleasant when I start asking questions and I got sent to the "Box-of-silence" for "spilling-the-milk"...

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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Finally someone said it. Completely agree
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domineus said:
doubts this heavily
can't we wait till it is actually on a device like the n1 first and not just dumped from an emulator instead? also do we need 10 million threads of the same thing?
Gingerbread has not been released for any current device. why don't we just wait till there is a n1 release and then we can have at it?
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If people do not like multiple threads, complainers, then why contribute to them by taking up space and jabbering comments? Kinda contradicktory; if the DEVS don't like it then they'll delete it, simple.

asctony said:
I read these boards daily and I just have to comment on this one. Why do people who are using this forum so opinionated? Meaning, why don't you provide some positive comments rather than some smart ass remarks like the two people who just posted. If you don't like what someone has posted, ignore it. Especially when you are on your second posting and already you are a smart ass. This is a forum that people use to gather info, post info and try to help each other. Now, if your posting helps, then great. Otherwise, please try to be civil.
JMHO!
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+1 ...i totally agree. some get ignorant for no reason. it's like they try to belittle others.try to sound one step smarter than the next person..and for what? what do you gain? i also hate when someone takes advantage of the post system and talks down to someone with less posts.
just because one has less posts then another doesn't mean they know any less. it just means they recently joined this forum. doesn't mean they are noobs.

2.3
Correct me if I am wrong here but since 2.3 is a revision of 2.2 wouldn't it be a case of just updating the kernel and booting away??
Eg relatively minor work compared to the whole getting android on to HD2 in the first place.

eenbox said:
Love the post - but even better love the post before this one as shown on the screenshot... while asking this question and wondering, 20-25 minutes before the question was asked there is posted extracted img file of GingerDude ... I know it's not complete build but you can imagine since this fast extraction worked - Leo is gonna have gingerdude very very soon :L)
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Oh hell yeah. Saw this earlier, but didnt even realise that it was my post that you were talking about. Biff has already tried to start booting, but no luck yet. Motoman and M-deejay are on it as well.

geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!

stirkac said:
geez you guys i post a topic and ofcourse some "smart" people who don't get the question ansewr as harsh as they can just to prove their "i'm a big important guy".
the question i posted was majorly mistaken as i tried to be retoric. to those who still don't get it better question could be "how long do you think our developers will need to get gingerbread working, share your thoughts!"
as i'm long time member of this site i can now perfectly see why some newbie users are afraid of asking and rather pay for complete tut how to get android workin on ebay and similar.
such big site should be open to new users because they can become potential developers (they get into it and get addicted...).
i know that flaming will still exist nomather what i write here, but, atleast if you can, answer to the new users, make good tutorials, suggest stickies to mods! this will keep our train rollin.
noone is born smart, you learn(ed) every and each thing you "smartasses" know and probably didn't just fall off the sky. you asked. so respect that!
EDIT: mods can now close this thread as gingerbread is working according to our hero darkstone!!
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Awesome reply...

to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.

koperko said:
to stirkac>
absolutely agree..
long time ago i discover this forum with my first HTC Universal in my hand..and i love it here..
now with hd2 i learned so much about wm year by year.. so at this time i am ADDICTED full respect to devs and newebies booth is needed to keep this in friendly and going forward continuum.. i reply rarely but this is "must" quick reply salute to all members.. be friendly and helping each other.
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thanks and respect to you! also includes deadmansink's post

[Q] A Very Important Question

You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.

norodaigh said:
You will all take the level of importance of this question as your own but I have had a query burning in my mind for a while.
I know that currently the Android OS is a BUILD and it takes a wm ROM to launch off, but I was wondering is there a way for the HTC LEO to run DROID ONLY and never have to associate itself or use WM ROMS ever again. Essentially I am asking is there a way to create a ANDROID ROM for the HTC LEO?
Note: Can the answers be open minded and not fuelled by programmers knowledge as most programmers I know will only give answers in the current boundaries of technology, but I do urge you to remember that at one point Computers were impossible...but they did it. I hope the programmers here do not take offence to this, I just want to know is it theoretically possible.
Thank you in advance.
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It's a work in progress. People is working on the bootloader and we are going to flash directly the rom in the phone.
Doesnt know yet the details.

Anyone else got more word?

Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
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Search and read....
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thread moved to Q&A.

norodaigh said:
Anyone else got more word?
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we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum.
norpan111 said:
Atleast a thousand threads about this, and once like yours every week. Its called NAND. Search for that
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just report any out of topic threads using the small triangle with exclamation mark
on the right upper hand corner of the post. so to alert the mods and
then it will be moved to general discussion

NAND http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160
Updates to the project http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
I had also wondered about this as I just got a HD2 last week, my very first smartphone. I put Android on it and love it, I didn't care to much for Windows Mobile. If people would have developed apps for it like iOS and Android I would have stay with winmo but I really wanted that Sirius XM app

jigners said:
we got your word but its pretty obvious you have not read enough in this community
and your topic is not in its proper forum
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It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.

norodaigh said:
It is pretty obvious isn't it, don't mind being a little nicer next time? Pretentious.
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You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
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Ok guys lol,
I think the OP has got the gist of what your saying, lets keep the flames cool please, thanks.
Tim.

norpan111 said:
You should be glad that you got help at all. People get upset when other people want to know something and does zero research of their own. That's why first people gets annoyed sometimes ;d
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I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?

norodaigh said:
I understand what your saying but this is a 'community forum' everyone is here to help everyone or have I completely missed the point?
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There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.

Reno_79 said:
There's a difference between helping and spoon-feeding. a ten second search would have avoided this whole thread.
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100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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as much as i hate redundant threads like this, that's true.

true, but reading the stickies @ the top of each forum would have answered it,....
infact the verry first stickie in the HD2 android general forum is all about it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
there i even linked to it for those that cant find it...

kam333 said:
100% agree with this (i often say it too), with a few exceptions tho
the big NAND question being 1 of them, if you are fairly new to this scene, it can be info overload & without reading every thread this info is easy to miss.
how does "NAND" translate into Android Rom? unless you've been been around for a while you wont know.
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Thanks dude

[Q] HD2 wanna choose the best Android 2.3.2 rom

hi, all
I would like to know which version or which is the best and stable rom
for HD2 cos i would like to install Android Gingerbread 2.3.2.. and i see many developer and many rom so i don't know which one is the best and stable rom for my HD2.
So please share me ur xperience and help me to choose.
Now I have Android 2.3.2 already on my phone but the problem is : It doesn't have the FM Radio,

khmerboytk said:
hi, all
I would like to know which version or which is the best and stable rom
for HD2 cos i would like to install Android Gingerbread 2.3.2.. and i see many developer and many rom so i don't know which one is the best and stable rom for my HD2.
So please share me ur xperience and help me to choose.
Now I have Android 2.3.2 already on my phone but the problem is : It doesn't have the FM Radio,
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seriously? in development?

want to know any good rom, you must try and feel.
may you find a good rom, do not make another topic like this

i think mdjs cm7 will be best fo HD2

mdjs cm7 , if can, could you give me a link?
Thank you!

Please close or move this thread

try it yourself and remove your thread

khmerboytk said:
hi, all
I would like to know which version or which is the best and stable rom
for HD2 cos i would like to install Android Gingerbread 2.3.2.. and i see many developer and many rom so i don't know which one is the best and stable rom for my HD2.
So please share me ur xperience and help me to choose.
Now I have Android 2.3.2 already on my phone but the problem is : It doesn't have the FM Radio,
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wow a lot of dicks around here
I already posted about this question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11272210#post11272210
have fun

casemandan said:
wow a lot of dicks around here
I already posted about this question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11272210#post11272210
have fun
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hey **** if u keep answering peoples questions that are posted in the wrong section it will only get worse. have u read the posting guidlines in the sticky above. I have. dont feed the animals!!!!! you will attract more.
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chrisgto4 said:
hey **** if u keep answering peoples questions that are posted in the wrong section it will only get worse. have u read the posting guidlines in the sticky above. I have. dont feed the animals!!!!! you will attract more.
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Bump that. Animals........

Hey . I would sugest
[15 FEB][CWM][★★★★★]HyperDroidGBXv5[AOSP-2.3.2][a2sd+][KER:RAF1.7][SMOOTHEST,OPENSRC]
You can find it on the first page. This rom doesnt require a lot of knoledge of hacking. Everything you need is included. Also, the developer responds very fast.
Only thing I dont like is resolution of the screen. The rom is customised and the author likes smaller density of the screen. Everything is very small but there is an instruction how to change it.

You say dont feed the animals, but your the f**king animals.
Dont like a thread? Dont respond. If its going to get removed, a moderator will remove it. If you have an answer, then give it.
Dont sit there and massflame, nufags.
I suggest MDJ's CM7 2.3 release. Its quick, and as far as Ive seen, troublefree.

Truaim said:
You say dont feed the animals, but your the f**king animals.
Dont like a thread? Dont respond. If its going to get removed, a moderator will remove it. If you have an answer, then give it.
Dont sit there and massflame, nufags.
I suggest MDJ's CM7 2.3 release. Its quick, and as far as Ive seen, troublefree.
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hey.i cant see that thread.

Instead of *****ing about the thread in the wrong section, Just report it. like I just did.
exclamation triangle thing next to post # is to report posts.

chrisgto4 said:
hey **** if u keep answering peoples questions that are posted in the wrong section it will only get worse. have u read the posting guidlines in the sticky above. I have. dont feed the animals!!!!! you will attract more.
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get a life fagbag!

casemandan said:
get a life fagbag!
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haha fagbag...i like that! whats worse that a fag.....a bag of fags. haha. hey you bag of fags!!!! haha that might be the only useful part of this whole thread. yall are right flaming doesnt help, but neither does answering the question in the wrong section. its not that ppl would rather flame than help, i think everyone on this site is here to get help or help others. i do both. I have also doine my fair share of posts in the wrong place and been flamed for it. heres the catch though, xda mods and staff have put a lot of effort into making this site as efficient and helpful as possible. When ppl just randomly post stuff because they didnt bother to search or try things themselves then you end up with random stuff posted all over the place. and the site would be a huge mess....trust me i have seen it. just go into some of the other forums and see how they look.....a mess. No its not nice to flame ppl but............in that thread there are 14+ posts and 1200+ views in less than 24 hrs. so had the question been answered nicely and no one flamed him before it got moved then all those ppl that post the exact same type question in the Q&A will see instead of waiting for an answer in there they can just mnake a post in here and it will get answered by someone as yourself. INSTEAD he got gently flamed and maybe he and the 1000 newbs that saw it learned not to post here. DONT TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
p.s. the 2 that started the name calling...fagbag,****,and dumfag. yall are the ones that really started the flaming. READ the rules before posting. yall have broken the rules as far as what can and cant be said in a post. As a gay american i am deeply hurt by your remarks and i hope you will be repremanded for it. CASEMANDAN especially you!!!!! BTW i reported u

[Q] Which NAND ROM delivers the best battery life before tweaking?

Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.

qipengart said:
Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!

malybru said:
Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!
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LMFAO ........................................
omg you made me spit iced tea everywhere

Kameirus said:
LMFAO ........................................
omg you made me spit iced tea everywhere
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I love his answers, one of his most popular answers is the amazing "click" where he simply names the link click and it transfers you to google-.-
HAHAH

qipengart said:
Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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I love the battery life on hyperdroid cm7 2.1.0

qipengart said:
Which NAND ROM provides the longest battery life before tweaking with SetCPU and/or JuiceDefender? I would like to have peeps provide here their opinion or proof before I settle on a single ROM.
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Great, another "whats got bets battery life" topic, we have been running short on these and other circular never ending topics like them, lets all enjoy at the finality of the answers.
Go and try some roms and find out what has best battery life for YOU because what MAY have good life for us doesn't necessarily translate to best for YOU.

malybru said:
Hi,
I had a NAND ROM once.
I installed it, charged it to the Max, powered it down, and put it in the cupboard for a week.
And guess what. There was still some charge on it when I switched it on again!
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haha quality

just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum.. and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop... be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?

ujjwal321 said:
be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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with reading, reading, reading. and with experimenting. with trying something out and not expecting it to be 100% perfect the first time i did it. not posting and expecting others to solve basics for me.
but i digress. so many threads about "best this" or "best that"...it seems that people are hesitating to experiment or impatient at that their first choice may not be the best answer.
anyways. blah blah.

ujjwal321 said:
just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum.. and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop... be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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new to the forum huh
youve been a member since 2008

ujjwal321 said:
just bought a second hand hd2 yesterday
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Enjoy
ujjwal321 said:
... I thought this thread was a good place to start... but all I saw was worthless answers... at least you could have given a one word answer rather than writing 2-3 lines long sentences..
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How can you give a "one word" answer to this question? Aprt from maybe "search" or "read"
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you guys might be pro at flashing but there will always be some one like me who is new to this forum..
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1) Been pro at flashing has absolutley nothing to do with it, Its about common sense and not been LAZY.
2) You've been a member here since 2008!!!!
ujjwal321 said:
and I don't think the question about best ROM and best battery life will stop...
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That doesnt mean you cant point out the fact that its a rediculous topic to make because its already been made over and over again, In the least it will make the OP aware that next time he/she/himshe needsto use search or take a simple browse of the sections before cteating a topic (ITS ALSO IN THE RULES AT NUMBER 1)
ujjwal321 said:
be honest... if you were new to this forum,, where would you start?"?
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Is this some kind of joke? Are you seriously asking this question?
I start the same place I would do on ANY forum...
Search Button
Sticky Topics
Reading topics
All these "best" topics are completley useless other then to clog up the forum with useless junk, There is just too many of them and they always have the same answers. In some section they get closed/deleted by mods so its not as if we are complaining for no reason.
Anyway, Welcome to the HD2 forum some advice for you...
DO NOT create topics in the dev section, Its for posting dev releases/work/reference ONLY!
DO NOT create "Best rom" or "Best Battery" or any other kind of "best" topics as they will always get same response, "best" is subjective upon the user, The ONLY way to find the "best" is to try it yourself because best for you is not always best for us etc.
PS. Incase you wasnt aware, All XDA n00bs at registration are give this video to watch so they have absolutely no excuse creating topics that are going to be obviously a FAQ, Its just common sense, ANY question that a n00b can think of has very likely already been asked AND answered a million times already so all they have to do is take 2 seconds to look, its as simple as that.

TheATHEiST said:
Enjoy
How can you give a "one word" answer to this question? Aprt from maybe "search" or "read"
1) Been pro at flashing has absolutley nothing to do with it, Its about common sense and not been LAZY.
2) You've been a member here since 2008!!!!
That doesnt mean you cant point out the fact that its a rediculous topic to make because its already been made over and over again, In the least it will make the OP aware that next time he/she/himshe needsto use search or take a simple browse of the sections before cteating a topic (ITS ALSO IN THE RULES AT NUMBER 1)
Is this some kind of joke? Are you seriously asking this question?
I start the same place I would do on ANY forum...
Search Button
Sticky Topics
Reading topics
All these "best" topics are completley useless other then to clog up the forum with useless junk, There is just too many of them and they always have the same answers. In some section they get closed/deleted by mods so its not as if we are complaining for no reason.
Anyway, Welcome to the HD2 forum some advice for you...
DO NOT create topics in the dev section, Its for posting dev releases/work/reference ONLY!
DO NOT create "Best rom" or "Best Battery" or any other kind of "best" topics as they will always get same response, "best" is subjective upon the user, The ONLY way to find the "best" is to try it yourself because best for you is not always best for us etc.
PS. Incase you wasnt aware, All XDA n00bs at registration are give this video to watch so they have absolutely no excuse creating topics that are going to be obviously a FAQ, Its just common sense, ANY question that a n00b can think of has very likely already been asked AND answered a million times already so all they have to do is take 2 seconds to look, its as simple as that.
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OK so the new to the forum thing should have been new to HD2 forum. I have been following the galaxy S forum for last few months. so I know the basics..
but I don't want to go through tens of threads so the best thing would be to ask or look for best ROM topic..
yes it is irritating to read all the best ROM, kernel topics but that's what newbies like to know.. I think the solution would be add a newbie section.. so that the development section will remain clean.. or you could just stop replying to such threads... whats up with that? ?

Fast and stable rom?

HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.

dohcvtec said:
Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm

Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).

Marvlesz said:
EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Then stick to windows mobile.

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423

Ever-Never said:
you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
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Spamming for 10 posts? Please do it somewhere else.

Nigeldg said:
Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA

Kameirus said:
see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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I do get it. But it doesnt mean it doesnt frustrate me to see the responses in these threads just as it frustrates those who are rattled by the thread even existing who feel the need to jump on and respond.
If it bugs you... you can leave it alone and move on OR you can let the OP know your frustration by refusing to answer the question and telling them to get off XDA. But surely its easier to ignore it?
It honest feels that the forum has become quite arrogant at times especially where "newbs" are concerned. And it can feel at times slightly Elitist (those that Can vs those who need help) with a disregard to anyone who doesnt know where to begin.
One post i read earlier told a FM to "get off the android forum and dont come back" for asking a similar question... How is this helping and how is it got to the point where there are many 'thanks' thumbsup to this sort of response.
I doubt that OP would be back in a hurry but i guess if it stops them asking 'stupid' questions....Theres a pattern forming where some members here who have flashed successfully a few times then become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. Why not just 'Not Respond' at all??
Its like pack mentality sometimes and thankfully it is a minority of members who are rattled and on the whole XDA is immensely helpful to newcomers who will learn the hard way to never ask "that" question :banghead:
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We are members of this community, thus we have to do our best to make it better. We do this by telling people who post such threads about how wrong it is and the correct way of finding "the" rom. But it got out of hand, you can check that for yourself. Every other week, there is a thread asking the exact same thing, i.e "best rom, fastest, stable". Whereas it should be common sense that there is no best in subjective things as Nigel summed it.
Now the problem is that many people think xda is a support site. Here is a quote from a senior member that I couldn't agree more with:
TheATHEiST said:
He is simply one of these XDA n00bs who comes here with the false impression that XDA is tech support for their manufacturers device.
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While it is true that you can find help on xda, that doesn't mean it is given on a silver platter. If you can't bother to help yourself, we can't bother to help you. Furthermore, finding a question that a 2-click search could've provided a more-than-satisfactory answer or finding a post that is almost the same as a two-rows-below post is rather very irritating.
... become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. ...
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That's impossible, if you're asking "what's the best rom", there is no way you're looking for a point in the right direction. Because basically there is no right direction. Some people even try to justify their stupid posts with even more stupid posts.
The HD2 has been out for about 4 years now. NO matter what your problem is, it has a 99% probability it has been asked AND answered before MULTIPLE times. Now if people can't bother to follow the very first rule of the forum rules, they don't deserve to be helped.
When they first registered on xda, they agreed to abide by the terms, rules and conditions. Now if you agree to abide by something and then break that thing, you take full responsibility and deserve everything you get for that breaking.

Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum
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A common misconception, this is a development forum (hence XDA developers ). Other than this I don't really have anything to add to Marvlesz's post tbh. You have to understand that when I posted that there had been literally three similar threads in a row. When you're posting a thread search results for the same or similar title even come up, so there wasn't any excuse for this thread to have been created. There's a subtle line between not knowing and not trying, and this is the latter.

It's problem to me too... I have 1.5 gb roms on my SD and no one fully work for me =(

Ok so i am aware that my earlier post was ott on my part and can only apologize. Must have been posting through some red mist I admit i jumped in without thinking and was unduely judgemental. Sorry bout that Everyone here esp devs are doing such amazing work for our gadgets to perform at their peaks and i am immensely appreciative of that. I agree with the above that this is first a "Development" forum and can be misconceived by some (myself included ) as somewhere where the answers are uniform and one in the same. However i see this is not the case and opinions to questions such as "whats the best, fastest most stable" etc, are so diverse and if everyone were to give an opinion then i guess these threads would also just get messy and lengthy with NO satifactory conclusion.
Sorry Guys...Really Didnt mean to offend. However i can see how my wording may have done so :banghead:
My tail is well and truly behind my legs as i type this
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Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
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it hapen to everyone, even me, you just make a wrong installation! Learn, serach and test before post. No other way to know which the best are.
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Kameirus said:
stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
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