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Ok, I have been thrown for a loop and need some help....
I had a Sprint Hero Rooted on 2.1 the .5 sprint update
Tried to run the new update but it kept getting corrupt.
Did a Nandroid backup
So I reverted back to the .5 RUU
Then it wanted me to update to the old .6 update, so I did
Hoping then I would upgrade to the new .6 but it was not able to find a new update?
Wanted to restore my nandroid update.
When I try to boot into the recovery mode I get a picture of a phone with a red Explanation mark in a triangle.
There is a bunch of people on the net that say they have seen or gotten it, but no one says how to get rid of it? So I can not get in to recovery mode at all.
Tried the home+power boot
Tried the volume down + power then home
always ends in the same screen with no recovery.
Tried multiple times to install the .5 RUU
Reset phone
never can get back there to the recovery?
Phone will boot fine into 2.1 and run fine..
Anyone have any ideas, I have tried everything I can think of.
Thanks
Did u try placing the recovery on ur SD card and flashing it threw terminal on ur phone
Root-Hack-Mod-Always™
You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.
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You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.
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Thanks, I can't believe I missed that! I had never tried a backup before root, so I did not think about that. Now I know and hopefully this will help someone that googles this issue, as there is never a clear answer until yours.
Thanks again...
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
Also If you ever run an ruu on your phone you can kiss your root good bye no matter what version you do. but if you have nand backups you can reroot your phone and then restore one of your backups since there stored on your sdcard.
copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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Correction: If you see this symbol, it means you don't have a custom recovery image in the phone. You can actually be rooted and still get that symbol if you haven't yet flashed a custom recovery after you rooted. You need to have a custom recovery (that requires root) to avoid getting that symbol when you try to boot into recovery.
Most rooting methods on here automatically include flashing a custom recovery as one of the steps, so this isn't really a big issue....but I just wanted to clarify the specifics of this for anyone else who reads.
copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?
brisuth said:
I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?
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Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different
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only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different
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The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.
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The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.
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just had a friendly member point out what i was starting to suspect the problem lies with the custom recovery being flashed back to stock on every restart, the shell command here
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh this stops any custom recovery on reboot. any advice on what tools to edit or remove
Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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I always had root that was where the confusion was, what i did not know was the script was running with every boot of the handset and removing the recovery that was there as it was identified as unofficial and exclamation mark could be down to me using many methods to flash i may have renamed original recovery so when it goes to exclamation it is because cant find original recovery whether handset is rooted or not.
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Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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would that have worked? i thought about it many many times but as i had never flashed before was unsure how many times phone would reset and if it did before it was installed could i lose my recovery.
on the plus side the 2 months i have spent trying to solve this i have a much broader view of the workings of my handset and without the many members like yourself who take the time to reply and try to help others i would have given up a long time ago.
Brian
I'm sure if you deleted that script a custom recovery would have stuck
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So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
Just for your information use the root method in wiki thats on this forum its easy. I think the visionary is outdated.
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red triangle with an exclamation point in it.
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The red triangle is the pre-screen to the stock recovery. At that screen if you press Vol + and Power (IIRC), it will take you to the recovery. I am not sure why you got this screen if you flashed clockwork recovery from ROM manager.
If the phone is not properly rooted, it probably cannot flash a custom recovery. Make sure you follow the instructions for rooting via Gfree in the wiki.
you are just soft rooted you will need to go through the root through adb
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So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Not positive how Visionary attempts to permroot, but you should check to see if you have it. Hold the volume down while powering on to enter the bootloader. The first line will say S-OFF if you have root and S-ON if you don't. If you have S-OFF, go ahead and try to flash the ClockworkMod recovery again (it just may not have worked that first time). If you have S-ON, or still have problems flashing the recovery, you can use either of the guides I linked to in the earlier post (you don't have to write scripts, but will need to use terminal---just follow the instructions carefully and watch for typos).
As far as ROMs, once rooted, you can try any of them really easily to see what you like best (be sure to make a backup first and you can always revert back). They are all pretty friendly to use right out of the box.
My phone is back to stock so I can't check lol. The link you posted titled guide seems pretty user friendly. I will attempt that root tnite... I will not do the h boot bc I dnt want more risk of a brick. Once I root I will flash clockworkrecovery. So in rom manager i should flash clockworkrecovery then scroll down to the bottom of it and backup current rom.how can I confirm its backed up? And once it is backed up I am clear to install new roms correct
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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So jus confirmed s on... so I will root using the guide u provided tnite.. few more questions jus to be safe I dnt wanna be a annoying but I appreciate the help...
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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jjp023 said:
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
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Yup.
jjp023 said:
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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This just means the ClockworkMod recovery did not flash properly (and you are seeing the stock recovery). Just boot the phone normally and try flashing the recovery again in ROM Manager. If that doesn't work, there are other options we can try, but it should work fine once you are actually permrooted.
Sounds good. I'm trying to prepare myself to do this root later tnite.
I want to make sure I get the command right in terminal.
After the money sign and number signs there are spaces correct?
So my keystrokes shoule be (I dnt press $ or #)
$(space)su(enter)
#(space)cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root/data/local/perm_root(enter)
#(space)chmod(space)777(space)/data/local/*(enter)
#(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
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You don't need to type the space at the start of the commands (they will already be there). Also you are missing a space in the second line:
cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
Otherwise, looks good.
I know exactly what you're talking about with the triangle and red exclamation mark. Happened to me when i first flashed clockwork mod (CWM). What fixed it for me was to flash it TWICE when using Rom Manager. The first time you try to flash it, it doesn't always work, so you just reboot as normal (not into recovery) and flash CWM again and it should fix it.
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So I've been using amon ra since I got my evo then about 2 weeks ago when CM7 nightlies came out I flashed clockwork 3.0.0.5 so I could get notifications and update though ROM Manger. Today I backed up my sdcard and went to format my card through clockwork and it failed and said it couldn't do it. I figured alright lemme just boot into android and do it, so I hit reboot and it vibrates 5 times and sits there with a black screen and a flashing green light. I've searched around and found people with rooted/modded and unrooted/stock phones that are having the same issue with no resolution. Strange thing is that my evo is now S-ON even though I was flashed with unrevoked forever with S-OFF. I also can't boot in to recovery. Here are my problems and what I have tried so far..
1. Used fastboot to flash everything I can think of, but always get some kind of error.
2. After many many attempts I was able to flash the latest official PC36IMG.zip. Sometimes it boots and sometimes it won't. When it does boot it shuts off and gives the 5 vibrates. It also will not see the microSD card when booted up.
3. Tried different microSD card and battery.
4. Tried to use unrevoked, but adb is not working.
5. When booted up it also lists 3 "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" entries in device manager with exclimations.
4. Any suggestions anyone may have?
I've only had my phone for about two months and I bought it new off ebay. If I can't get it working I'm at a loss. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
EDIT: I was able to get android to see the sd card by doing the fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243, but it still reboots.
Clockwork is not bad, but it isn't the best. I used amon ra for a year on my hero and I never had one issue. I have an epic now (just bought an evo on ebay ), and clockwork is always a hassel for me. If I were you, download the new amon ra recovery image. You can go into rom manager and select "flash alternate recovery". It will automatically switch you over. Or remove root and re root the phone.
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Dj21o said:
Clockwork is not bad, but it isn't the best. I used amon ra for a year on my hero and I never had one issue. I have an epic now (just bought an evo on ebay ), and clockwork is always a hassel for me. If I were you, download the new amon ra recovery image. You can go into rom manager and select "flash alternate recovery". It will automatically switch you over. Or remove root and re root the phone.
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I'm running the stock rom with S-ON and no root. Android will not even stay up long enough to use temporary root from z4root and flash another recovery.
Seems to be happening a lot lately with the new CM7 build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10744115&postcount=11
Are they trying to incorporate some sort of epst app in it now? Thats strange a rom would mess with the bootloader but for it to do it on an evo and an incredible?
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If its unrooted with s-on then have you considered going to a sprint store and having it replaced? With TEP its free, without it, its $35-
apfrost said:
I'm running the stock rom with S-ON and no root. Android will not even stay up long enough to use temporary root from z4root and flash another recovery.
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No not z4 lol. You need a recovery image to back up the phone, flash new roms, etc.
Unless I have no idea what you're talking about. I miss amon ra, and that will be the first thing I put on my evo lol.
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After 16 hours of trying to recover the phone I finally caved and went to the sprint store. I paid the $35 got real lucky since sprint had no refurbished evos at the warehouse so they gave me a new one there an then. Number one rule..
DON'T USE CLOCKWORK!
Clockwork 3.0.0.5 was the common factor in all cases I found.
EDIT: Also if your using a custom rom with customer recovery like amon ra I would leave S-ON. This way a flashable zip can't modify and corrupt your NAND partitions.
Search function is down but I did go through a few pages of threads looking for what was going on and no luck but I apologize if this has been solved somewhere else.
First off I would rate my rooting know-how as beginner to intermediate. I've jailbroken/unlocked multiple iPhones awhile back and have rooted/flashed roms on a cliq, mts, my3g, and this mt4g before.
I recently returned my current mt4g back to stock rom and unrooted. I do not think I turned s back on but I should have double checked before.
I currently have root and flashed clockwork and am trying to flash CM7 (I had ran it before on this phone as well). I have an issue right now where I cannot get into clockwork recovery as it will just sit at the mytouch logo forever and if I try and volume up and power into recovery all I get is 3 vibrations and a flashing amber light.
I can boot into the stock (but rooted) rom.
Any ideas? I feel like my recovery is broken or something but this goes beyond what I know. Any help would be great and any information you need I'll be happy to provide.
myTouch 4G, rooted, s (probably) off, stock rom, clockwork says i'm on 3.0.2.4
After reading that, I'm not fully convinced you actually have root and S-OFF. If you're sure you do, download ROM Manager from the Market and use that to install a fresh copy of CWM recovery. Also make sure the "fast boot" option is turned off somewhere under Settings. At that point, there should be nothing preventing you from getting into recovery if you have perm root.
I've got ROM Manager and it has SU permissions and I have the latest recovery flashed but I am still stuck on mytouch logo or the 3 vibrations/amber light when I try to get to recovery. If I reboot there is still no problem getting SU in terminal emulator or ROM manager or anything.
Fast boot is off as well. Thanks for the help so far.
Any ideas?
I don't often boot into recovery manually since most custom ROMs have an enhanced reboot menu with a recovery option, but if memory serves, I believe the key press combination is actually Power + Volume Down, not up like you mentioned in your OP. Give that a try.
Man I am really crazy. Here I am a tmo rep and also a novice modder and I'm hitting power + volume up.
Worked like a charm.. Now just to figure out why clockwork is sitting at the mytouch screen when trying to install CM7.
Thanks for the fresh set of eyes!
breakaway87 said:
Worked like a charm.. Now just to figure out why clockwork is sitting at the mytouch screen when trying to install CM7.
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After flashing CM7, the phone hangs at the myTouch screen when attempting the first boot?
From ROM Manager if I try to flash CM7 from there it goes to the mytouch screen and hangs before anything else happens.
breakaway87 said:
From ROM Manager if I try to flash CM7 from there it goes to the mytouch screen and hangs before anything else happens.
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What if you select the "boot into recovery" option in ROM Manager? Does the phone reboot into CWM recovery? (you should see the main CWM menu in orange text)
Boot into recovery takes me to MT4G logo and hangs.
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Boot into recovery takes me to MT4G logo and hangs.
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So you don't have a good installation of CWM. Open ROM Manager again and re-flash a fresh recovery. I think there's an option to wipe your existing recovery beforehand, so if you see that, select it. You need to get a working recovery image before you can do much else.
Deleted current recovery and I confirm my model again and it takes a total of 5 seconds. Trying to reboot into recovery again after and I still hang at MT4G.
I hate it when you know something you need to do but you've been working on it so long you can't come up with new ideas.
Thanks again for the help.
Sorry multipost since it didn't register on my computer the first time for some reason
Yeah sorry man, I've never heard of a situation where CWM stubbornly refuses to install. If you have the engineering bootloader, you could manually flash it that way, but that's my only other idea.
Alright well thanks for all the help man, I'll dig around and pick up tomorrow.
I ended up looking for the recovery myself on the SD card and deleted it and then it flashed no problem. Thanks again for the help
breakaway87 said:
I ended up looking for the recovery myself on the SD card and deleted it and then it flashed no problem. Thanks again for the help
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Sure, glad you figured it out.
okay well a couple months ago I permarooted my phone and flashed a custom rom but I can't remember which one I used all I can say is that I cannot do anything no more with my phone in a way because I keep trying to turn s-on but superuser is not letting me because it's basically broken. I try to open up superuser to see whats wrong but it just shows me a white screen. so I find an update for superuser but I don't know how to install it anyway but the clockwork recovery mode way. So I try to reboot into clockwork recovery but my phone just gets stuck in the mytouch 4g screen and never boots into recovery, so I am forced to take out the batttery and put it back in. I need an answer by today hopefully
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okay well a couple months ago I permarooted my phone and flashed a custom rom but I can't remember which one I used all I can say is that I cannot do anything no more with my phone in a way because I keep trying to turn s-on but superuser is not letting me because it's basically broken. I try to open up superuser to see whats wrong but it just shows me a white screen. so I find an update for superuser but I don't know how to install it anyway but the clockwork recovery mode way. So I try to reboot into clockwork recovery but my phone just gets stuck in the mytouch 4g screen and never boots into recovery, so I am forced to take out the batttery and put it back in. I need an answer by today hopefully
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I think you update superuser in the market. Try flashing clockworkmod recovery from the ROM Manager app, then boot into recovery (if you need to) and see if it works. If not, I have no clue what your problem is. Sorry, hope I helped. Press thanks if I did
Forgot to mention that when I try to flash recovery or anything because super user is not working I can't install clockrecovery or go Into it with bootloader because it just freezes at touch 4g screen
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Forgot to mention that when I try to flash recovery or anything because super user is not working I can't install clockrecovery or go Into it with bootloader because it just freezes at touch 4g screen
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OK. Are you sure you are rooted/S-OFF? Boot into bootloader by holding power + volume down to see if you have S-OFF.
Yup it still is permarooted
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Yup it still is permarooted
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Hmmm.....try rooting with ./gfree, it worked for me. I am not sure what your problem is if it doesn't work.
I think the solution is to update super user but I can't update super user unless I'm in the clockwork recovery mode and stuff which I can't get into unless there is another way to update super user because when I open super user it just gives me a blank white screen
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I think the solution is to update super user but I can't update super user unless I'm in the clockwork recovery mode and stuff which I can't get into unless there is another way to update super user
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Super user is an app. Go to the market.
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okay so I was able to get superuser updated but now when I try to update the su binary it keeps saying fail when trying to gain root access
sorry for double post but I need this done by today because I sold it rooted and now I am trying to do s-on, unpermaroot, then unroot
oh btw my superuser binary is not updating it keeps saying gaining root access fail
EDIT:Turns out all I had to do was read a guide that was posted about my by an admin or mod so it's fixed now