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So i dont know if my battery is dying or if there is a glitch. But when my battery runs low, about 15%, i plug the charger in until it reaches about 40% charged. With the charger still intact, i do a soft rest, HOLD CALL, HOLD MENU and CLICK END CALL, and voila! The battery is fully charged after it fully boots up. Can anyone contest that this is true?
it just gets negative reading... its not really a 100 % heh
LOLOL!!!
Definately not charged.
i recall there's an issue with 1.5 firmware with the battery life....search the Development's thread for this.
OMG!!!!!! I'm gonna do this now!!!
thanks for the contribution to the community.
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OMG!!!!!! I'm gonna do this now!!!
thanks for the contribution to the community.
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LOL.
Now that's funny!
I might not do this, for it may glitch my g1 thinking its full and bam died out of nowhere
Yeah ur phone is definitly not 100% charged, the battery just isn't calibrated correctly anymore.
I'd recommend you recalibrate it in order to get your full battery life out of it again, or else your probably going to find yourself running out of battery faster than usual.
Hillarious...
The title should really read "How to make your G1 think a battery is full, while only at 40% charge"
hahahaha yeah. Let's use logic next time we make a post, shall we dumplin101?
ZOMG SO COOL!
(that was a joke)
Im not a battery junkie so my theory may be wrong, but let me explain a little of what i have learned from automotive batteries.
Remember this is an automotive battery.
Technically an auto battery is charged at 12.6 volts, but the amperage also needs to be rated at whatever the battery may need to be. for simplicities sake we will say that a battery is 12.6 volts and 500 cold cranking amps.
The battery will loose a charge to 9.6 volts and 260 amps.
If we put this battery on a charger and get it back to 12.6 volts but we did not give it enough time for the amperage to get back to normal we would have a 12.6 volt battery at 350 amps. the voltage is 100% but the amperage is not. the full battery capacity is not there and will not work the same way.
in your case I would bet that that battery also drains faster when you perform the charge like that. another thing that can happen is that when you first boot it up the phone software needs to adjust the true reading of you may be sending a voltage spike to the readings.
Remember, this is just a theory.
Yes that is correct, BUT....BUT! this is a PHONE HAHAHAHA! jk man, yea that is true, i work on cars all the time, and sometimes i get customers who come to me with dead batteries because they charge them too much.
In all seriousness, I've found that my battery charges faster when I turn airplane mode on. Really. It could totally be in my head, but it seems like it.
nolageek said:
In all seriousness, I've found that my battery charges faster when I turn airplane mode on. Really. It could totally be in my head, but it seems like it.
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And it would charge even faster if you turned the phone off.
The charger puts out 5v at 1A. That's all it can do.
If you have all the features turned on, that uses up a certain amount of juice, and the rest is used for charging. If the phone is off (or most/all features are turned off) most if not all of the juice is going to charging the battery.
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And it would charge even faster if you turned the phone off.
The charger puts out 5v at 1A. That's all it can do.
If you have all the features turned on, that uses up a certain amount of juice, and the rest is used for charging. If the phone is off (or most/all features are turned off) most if not all of the juice is going to charging the battery.
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Your right on this because i noticed less than an hour my phone was fully charged when turned off.
Anybody ever look at the power ratings on the wall charger vs the car charger?
I was told my car charger was a quick charger, but never took the time to look at the power ratings.
i just did the reset thing to my phone and now am at 100% too!
This is way better than having to plug it in! Gonna throw all these wires in the garbage!
Thank God for unlimited power! !!!!!!
droid01 said:
i just did the reset thing to my phone and now am at 100% too!
This is way better than having to plug it in! Gonna throw all these wires in the garbage!
Thank God for unlimited power! !!!!!!
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lol at your avatar and your comment
kizer said:
Anybody ever look at the power ratings on the wall charger vs the car charger?
I was told my car charger was a quick charger, but never took the time to look at the power ratings.
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Car chargers charge faster, but less completely. It's a trickle charge, so it'll fill it up faster, but it's not great for your battery and it isn't a solid charge like your home AC charger will give it. Use your car charger sparingly, and always give it a full charge on the AC charger as soon as you can after using your car charger.
I was wondering if everybody drains the battery to 0% before charging their HD2. I have done this the first 5 times or so now but am thinking that it isn't a big deal at this point?
What does everybody think?
I like to drain all of my devices before charging them. With my phones, I always let them drain until they won' t turn back on when I first get them for the first few charges, but that's it... I think you are good. Plus you can always buy a spare battery if it stops holding a charge. The HD2 over Iphone advantage!
Yeah that sounds like how I usually run my batteries ... I will drain them 100% the first handful of times. Then after that I just charge at night when it is lower.
I have been looking at the larger capacity battery with the kickstand. Might buy that as a spare. Does anybody have the external wall charger for this phone ... I saw it on a few websites. I wonder if it works with the larger battery too? Would be nice if you could charge outside the phone with a second one.
the drain/charge cycle was for nickle MH- batteries.
It's no longer necessary for Lithium ion batteries, cos they dont suffer from charge memory effect.. or at least thats what the science says.
samsamuel said:
the drain/charge cycle was for nickle MH- batteries.
It's no longer necessary for Lithium ion batteries, cos they dont suffer from charge memory effect.. or at least thats what the science says.
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I agree.
But there's no harm doing it the old way. I've let my battery die completely before I plug in the charger. I think I've done it 6 times in the last 7 days that I've owned the phone.
Wall charger
NickPDX said:
Yeah that sounds like how I usually run my batteries ... I will drain them 100% the first handful of times. Then after that I just charge at night when it is lower.
I have been looking at the larger capacity battery with the kickstand. Might buy that as a spare. Does anybody have the external wall charger for this phone ... I saw it on a few websites. I wonder if it works with the larger battery too? Would be nice if you could charge outside the phone with a second one.
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I bought a wall charger from Amazon and it was wigging my phone out for some reason. But went back to the USB charger but with a 6ft Extension and now its awesome! That little USB wall charger thing was just way too short!
kcaj32 said:
I agree.
But there's no harm doing it the old way. I've let my battery die completely before I plug in the charger. I think I've done it 6 times in the last 7 days that I've owned the phone.
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oh absolutely, i still try run it a good way down now and again, , old habits and that.
Has anyone experienced this issue, seems as tho when I charge my battery to 100% it takes less then 30m before it discharges to 92-92%.
This is happening with the original battery and the Seidio extended battery that I have.
Is there a fix for this, or is this something I should call VZW about. A lot of people at androidforums have been having the same issue.
http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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Yeah, I've read this, is everyone having this issue, or just certain phones? The battery "trick" does not work for me.
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
ufvj217 said:
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
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Your battery stats are miscalculated. You need a calibration procedure. Replacing the phone might fix the problem, but if your battery charging habits don't change it'll happen again, unless HTC feels like changing their battery calibration algorithm, and there's no need to wait for that. Any laptap manufacturer will have a good how-to on li-ion battery calibration.
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
ufvj217 said:
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
I completely discharged my battery last night, turned it off, and fully charged it while it was off. Now the first 10% seems a lot more resilient then before. I just hope I don't have to do this every night. I don't have a land line and it sucks having to turn it off just to charge it.
good to see this post, i to have a htc touch hd, and have problems with batteries, ive bought 2 new batteries from ebay.
and seem to get vary results, its as if mobile is showing 100% but the battery is only 40% charged.
charged one last night finished at 12pm and battery was saying it was flat at 7am !
the orginal htc does seem to last longer, but obvisily there is a issue with the phone itself, if it needs reset or something?
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
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Replacing the phone is not necessary. It's actually the OS that cuts the charge short of full. The OS "thinks" the battery is full,thus stopping the charge. Completely drain the battery, then plug it in,leaving the phone on. Let it fully charge while it's on - when the LED indicator is green,and the battery is "full" - while still plugged in, power phone off,and you'll notice the indicator will turn red again,charging the phone for about another half hour or so. That will give you a true full charge.
Days later...and running Froyo, and still battery problems
I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Thanks! I will give it a try...
How do u clear your battery stats?
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Go into recovery and it is under advanced.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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Oh thanks. I was actually planning to get a new battery today.
Whick one do you suggest?
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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I can tell you it doesn't have anything to do with the chargers. I have this problem while the phone is turned on whether I plug it into my Computer, original charger, off brand car charger, usb car charger, usb cable from the lg ally, or the OEM lg ally charger. it has everything to do with HTCs software on the phone. it is using two different ways to charge the battery, one while the phone is on and in use (that uses HTCs software/algorithm), and one while the phone is turned off(uses the batteries overcharge protection circuit).
jeeeeezz
I have tried everything, I tried resetting / removing the battery stats etc. Nothing works...Its useless ppl...have to wait for a fix from HTC. Which bring my question, does anyone know when or if this is planned to be fixed?
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
Nice! Ill test that later today
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
I know but there were many threads about battery not charging up to 100% so I just decided to help a little)
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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can you provide more info on this?
alexvega said:
can you provide more info on this?
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It wont shorten it thats BS.
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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Charging to 100% will not shorten the battery life if any Lithium Ion or lipo battery, but if you discharge past 5% will kill the battery faster. This I know from using the lipo battery's on my big RC Helicopters and that the ESC's have a low voltage cutoff on them to keep from doing damage to the battery. All lipo batterys are built the same so before someone says it is not the same, YES it is!!!
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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hopefully an OTA will fix these issues.
Does anybody have access to a Moment,Instinct HD, Behold II? Charge your Nexus S to 95% and then put battery in one of these phones and see what battery reading you get.
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Doesn't work...sorry.
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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ive done this and i never reach 100%. the highest i have gone is 98%.
This is curious. I usually pick my phone in the morning and read some tweets and news before I get up, while the phone is still connected to the charger. When I 1st take it it has about 96-97% but after I use the phone for some time it goes up to 98 or 99%, but never got 100%.
does that 5% really make that much of a difference? maybe it helps the battery to not go to 100%, maybe it doesn't...
but are you really using the battery down to 5% before charging it where it makes that huge of a difference?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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any real input on this? or just an assumption?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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Let me guess... Google told you first?
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guys is better to charge the phone before it is <5% or not?
if you leave the screen on while charging, you can charge it to 100%, i do it a few times a week. as soon as the screen goes off over 95%, it will stop charging, at that point just unplug it, then plug it back in and leave the screen on. itll get to 100%. have patience, itll just takes some time.
ok i switched to another phone and i stooped using nexus s for like 4 months i was planning to sell it and today i took it out it does not even turn on. does not take charge. it was perfectly fine... what happened?????
Maybe the battery got killed.
does it do anything when its plugged in?
pull the battery, put it back in, try charging, oddly enough sometimes works.
it was perfectly fine until you left it for another <del>woman</del> phone. how did you think it would react?
Try charging it connected to a computer. Often wall chargers can't charge a device that is completely dead
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Matridom said:
Try charging it connected to a computer. Often wall chargers can't charge a device that is completely dead
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I don't see how that would make any difference. I've never experienced that yet.
herbthehammer said:
I don't see how that would make any difference. I've never experienced that yet.
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Because you'res not dead?
lvnatic said:
Because you'res not dead?
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A charger is a charger. If both are working properly then one won't charge better than the other. One may charge faster than the other. Perhaps the battery has a dead or weak cell in it. Try swapping batteries with someone and see if your phone will charge it. Give someone your battery and see if their phone charges it. Try their charger on your phone. Try your charger on their phone. Process of elimination.
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A charger is a charger. If both are working properly then one won't charge better than the other. One may charge faster than the other. Perhaps the battery has a dead or weak cell in it. Try swapping batteries with someone and see if your phone will charge it. Give someone your battery and see if their phone charges it. Try their charger on your phone. Try your charger on their phone. Process of elimination.
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Think about it..why would one charge faster than the other? well because the one charging faster is being given more current. if the battery is dead and isnt able to charge with the weak charger, maybe the one giving out more current is just enough current to get it started. You can compare this to jump starting a dead car battery.
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Think about it..why would one charge faster than the other? well because the one charging faster is being given more current. if the battery is dead and isnt able to charge with the weak charger, maybe the one giving out more current is just enough current to get it started. You can compare this to jump starting a dead car battery.
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Yeah, no. It doesn't work like that at all.
Chances are the battery is just totally dead. If you have some sort of a charger that can charge any given Li-ion battery, hook it up and see if it charges. Otherwise, you're going to have to beg/borrow/steal/buy a new battery.
Yeah, a dead or weak cell is just that. I might be wrong but once that happens, there's no way to fix or revive it that will bring it back to normal. Check into it. If it turns out to be a bad battery, I'm not 100% sure so don't quote me, I thought I might have read the ns uses the same battery as the Samsung moment. If this is true, please research it first, then it shouldn't be very expensive to replace. I highly suggest you get an OEM original Samsung battery. Aftermarket usually never hold up as good as an OEM if both batteries are the same ratings. I've had OEM batteries outlast aftermarket ones for uptime even when the OEM was rated significantly lower in output. Example: I had sprint official battery that was extended 2200 for my evo. I had aftermarket 3300 for the epic. The evo would outlast the epic when both had a full overnight charge. Now before anyone says that's not a fair comparison, consider this. When both phones had OEM 1500ma batteries in them, the evo would ALWAYS die before the epic would. Noticeably sooner.