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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
The reason I ask is because side by side there is a huge difference between my fascinate and my wifes droid 2. Her signal is usually at about -88dBm while mine is -106dBm. Verizon says anything < -92dBm is not strong enough for data.
I have read the fascinate is known for weaker signal then the moto's but is it a hardware issue or software issue that can be resolved with a radio update? Verizon wants to replace it with another new fascinate so we'll see on Wednesday if the signal is any better.
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The reason is because side by side there is a huge difference between my fascinate and my sides droid 2. Her signal is usually at about -88dBm while mine is -106dBm. Verizon says anything < -92dBm is not strong enough for data.
I have read the fascinate is known for weaker signal then the moto's but is it a hardware issue or software issue that can be resolved with a radio update? Verizon wants to replace it with another new fascinate so we'll see on Wednesday if the signal is any better.
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Please post and let me know! Mine sucks
-96dBm 678kbps down 458kbps up @home in the burbs
Had a tower in the city that got 2049kbps down 849kbps up. blew me away.
good day.
-106dBm.
.09 Mbps up
.22 Mbps down at my house... lol.
Seems pretty consistent with what I'm seeing. I didn't have this issue with my Epic prior to switching last month. I really hope a radio update will fix this. I find this to be a pretty big problem for myself at least.
-96 here with terrible 3g connection, my moto droid is -84 and no problem with 3g
-96 here getting 1.75MB download and 1MB upload. Ping usually around 130.
As fast as 2K kbps down and 850 up -86dBm
-96 here too but I have had no 3G issues, don't remember my download and upload speeds right now but they're high enough. I have nothing to compare it to since my husband has the same phone, but my Eris was always in the 80's.
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At work outside, it was showing -96dBm and I got a SpeedTest result of 2000kbs down/800kbps up. Came inside and it goes between -101dBm and -96dBm and it bounces around from a 2-300kbps down /50-100kbps up to around 600-800kbps down/ 1-300kbps up. Speeds seem similar to what I got with my old TP2 here, though when there is a poor signal, it bounces around a lot more than the TP2 did.
Ok so for some reason lately my 3g service seems to be really really slow or not working at all. Gives error when going to the market or using the web.says no service accessible.please try again. What the hell is going on? I live in the renton/kent Washington area. And no I have not reached 5gb cap yet.my month just started. Some times it works and gives me up to 4mb to 6mb speeds if I go to a friends house. But wont work 90% of the time in my area. Use to work great. But now it sucks balls! Thanks for any ideas!
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If you have had good 3g up until now, call TMo. If it is not a currently known service issue, have them open a service ticket. They did it for me (although edge was working) and I was back in business in about 4 days, and they even called me back to make sure everything was cool.
Yea already called them.told me I should upgrade to the Myslide 4g. Lol I just got the Vibrant. Also told me it should be working fine.made a trouble ticket but that was last week.still having major issues with 3g service. Stupid thing is they told me if I added the $15 extra tethering plain.my 3g would be faster.what a load of crap! Lol
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you're not alone, my 3g is gone too though i have a good reception here in my place in the past.
Just ran the Speedtest.net App and only got 0.15kb download speed but got 1.75mg upload speed. That doesn't seem right to me!
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what rom are you running?
i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?
happened to me the other day in myrtle beach for like 15 minutes i had like crappy 100 kbps download and like 2 mbits upload.
i think some ****er is just hogging all the bandwidth from the tower you are on.
sorry if we cant cuss im new.
Running just the offical ROM with JI6 update. Also Rooted. Starting to get pissed off here.plus GPS is non working taking like 10mins to even find me.and its jumping all over the place on google maps! WTF!! ;(
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I came from the G1 and I noticed the Vibrant doesn't get nearly as good of reception. It was a pretty rare thing to ever be on anything but 3G with the G1 but the Vibrant spends quite a bit of time on Edge. Same locations...
For what it is worth the JK2 modem has given me the best overall performance/battery life. Could be worth a try putting a JK2 ROM on there if you haven't already. But yeah the Vibrant overall doesn't get as good of signal as some other phones.
I've been having reception issues since T-mobile announced Louisvile was live with 4G. getting similar errors saying no service accessible.please try again. or it will just say network error.
Ok so I just installed the lag fix from the market and I got to say wow. Phone is lighting fast and gps seems to be better and 3g. Almost like a new device! Crazy
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you sure the lagfix fixed it? can you run a speedtest?
Yeah all same here. 3g issues for 3 days now, speed test was 67 kbs. Usually 4000 + Idk what's happening but its good to know I'm not alone. This is pissing me off.
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Yea ran new speedtest and got like 1.12mg but probably would be faster if the weather wasn't so crappy outside 60 mph winds!
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Ok just ran the speedtest app again and got 1.98mg download and 2.65mg upload speeds.so seems faster with the lag fix. And gps seems to work better too.
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Also got Quadrant Standard score of 2096 instead of the normal 890! Wow what a difference!
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It won't work that well around the area of Kent, East Hill area.
I am experiencing the same matter as you, and live in about the same area.
From my observation, general east hill area has bad 3G,data packet connection.
I've been having the same problems as u guys. I live in philly, and 3g had always been pretty good. I called tmo and got to upper level tech support, and they said out might be a network merging issue (whatever the hell that is). So, I starting playing around with the settings and I found a short term fix for me. Do this only if u know u have 3g signal, go to wireless and network, then network mode and click wcdma. if u go into edge area u will lose signal completely.
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i think the vibrant has weak reception in general, mine is always switching between 3g and edge everywhere where my tp2 could hold a 3g connection and sometimes my vibrant will search for a signal where my tp2 would have at least edge.
also the wifi bars will go to 1 or 0 on the vibrant when i am one room over from my router but my tp2 and bb bold will have full bars.
maybe this is caused by the battery saving algorithm?
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Dude I think you should replace your phone
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Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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Is the PRL up to date...when I got my shift there was already a new PRL..check settings>system update>update prl
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I did a PRL update when I recieved the phone, but it did do a new update just now. There may be a slight improvement... I think that I'll still get the radios checked today.
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I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?
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I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?
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If all you want to do is bring up your 3G speeds. Do the mod on THIS post. It should fix the issue for you.
Anyway to improve 3G speeds on AOSP?
Evo SHIFT
Just flash back to a Sense rom. Make the changes, then flash back to AOSP.
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I do believe if you flash to sense, then go back, it has to be a new rom flash, not a nandroid, otherwise it restores those settings from the nandroid, not the changes you made in the sense rom.
You are correct . See now that I forgot to mention that .
Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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sprints wifi tether is dependent on the signal strength.
on 3g avg dl speed is 45k upload 13k
4g is 950+kb 720 upload
IF your PRL is up to date AND you aren't fair from a tower
is it good? i will be using it on ATT as it is unlocked. i had a fascinate on VZ before it was updated, and it was a crappy signal compared to my others. hows the vibrant?
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is it good? i will be using it on ATT as it is unlocked. i had a fascinate on VZ before it was updated, and it was a crappy signal compared to my others. hows the vibrant?
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I'm not an ATT but reception was fine, but mainly depended on your modem. Some modems gave great reception and data speeds, but gave poor battery, while some gave mediocre reception, with great battery.
As long as you live in a area that has wcdma 1900, the vibrant should work fine on at&t.
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As long as you live in a area that has wcdma 1900, the vibrant should work fine on at&t.
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well its half and half where i live and work. i am totally fine under EDGE. dont use data much. i just want c good cell reception since it is my pnly phone.
has the wifi issies been fixed?
Mine has always been great. No complaints at all. I can't speak for Att Network but you should see good signal if you are in a city
I'm on ATT and the reception is very good, even in elevators.
my vibrant has one of the worst antenna. I can't hold the bottom part of the phone if I want to have a 3G data.
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Mine works perfect could not ask for anything better I get perfect signal on att edge and 3g /bionix v
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Really good and YES, depends on the modem you use.
I have found that I get the best signal when driving over 120mph. My emails loads like you wouldn't believe, and text messages seem to send and receive much better at those speeds. Although the new KB5 modem may let you go a little slower. Haven't tested it as I drank too much before I got in the car after flashing it, and I forgot which pocket I left my phone it to see.
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I have found that I get the best signal when driving over 120mph. My emails loads like you wouldn't believe, and text messages seem to send and receive much better at those speeds. Although the new KB5 modem may let you go a little slower. Haven't tested it as I drank too much before I got in the car after flashing it, and I forgot which pocket I left my phone it to see.
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Ha, only 120mph, you drive slow.
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Ha, only 120mph, you drive slow.
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In his defense he was bit tipsy.
pff, i went 160 and my gps couldnt keep up with tellin me where to turn on time
in my defense i was bit high , in my phones defense sh!t is retarded
Well i am on Bionix 1.3.1 Rom. There is slight difference in different Modems. Anyhow i have seen that the reception is actually better than Iphone 3gs when running in difficult areas with low reception.