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I do not want to change my plan. I don't have a sero plan or anything.
its a family talk plan with add ons for unlimtied data on each of the two lines.
anyone have any ideas?
No, it is not possible. Some people might give you hope saying Radio Shack can do it but your plan will get switched (they will call and tell you to switch plans or return the phone) if it somehow happens to fall through the cracks and activate on a non everything plan.
Absolutely not. I tried all with all the sugary syrup i could think off but no dice. In my case too i don't have SERO but my plan is from 2002, and let me just say that with taxes, it comes out to less than $35/month .
I decided to make do with the Touch Pro 2. I found a dealer selling them brand new on craigslist for $350 and got one yesterday. Not my 1st choice (Hero was) but at least i get to keep my juicy plan and TP2 should hold me for a while to come.
Okay, so I want this phone. Sadly, they won't let existing customers upgrade to it. Whatever. I have someone who wants to join my family plan and it allows them to pick whatever phone they want, so can I just order this phone, use it with my current SIM card (I pay for the $30 dollar internet so I'm not trying to scam them here), and have the new line use a dumb phone and take internet off?
When I try to check out with it, it says I must have a data plan for the line. Will they allow me to change that when it eventually kicks in that a smartphone isn't exactly on their network for that number? Hopefully, the line isn't auto-locked to the number, right? What if your smartphone breaks and you have to rock a dumbphone for a couple months?
Actually, now it looks like I can upgrade to the HD2 now on my current line. I think I'll just do that. I just want the phone!
Edit: I now am awaiting a HD2.
jdwrrzmm said:
Okay, so I want this phone. Sadly, they won't let existing customers upgrade to it. Whatever. I have someone who wants to join my family plan and it allows them to pick whatever phone they want, so can I just order this phone, use it with my current SIM card (I pay for the $30 dollar internet so I'm not trying to scam them here), and have the new line use a dumb phone and take internet off?
When I try to check out with it, it says I must have a data plan for the line. Will they allow me to change that when it eventually kicks in that a smartphone isn't exactly on their network for that number? Hopefully, the line isn't auto-locked to the number, right? What if your smartphone breaks and you have to rock a dumbphone for a couple months?
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For the record you are only obligated to use the smartphone data plan for as long as you are actually using the smartphone. Even if you sell it, as long as you use a dumbphone or unbranded undetected phone (or from another network) you'll be good to go and can drop the data plan completely or even to a dumbphone plan without issues.
I went around shopping today for a HD2 ..
Trying to get the HD2 and sign a new 2yr contract family plan with 3-4 lines..and most the stores will offer it to me for free plus $50-100 bucks back. The only catch is they won't open the line unless i also sign up for the $30 data plan... which i don't want.
Some of the reps told me the alternative is to buy the international version of the phone without data plan but they want me to cough up a extra ~$200+ some dollars out of my pocket to get it.
I went to this one store and said they would give me the T-mobile version of the phone plus some money back as well without the data plan and the way he'll do it is not record the IMEI during the sign up...... really interesting proposition !!!
Does that really work ???? Not record the IMEI number... he said i won't have warranty if he doesn't not record the IMEI. I guess my real question is will Tmobile find out i have the HD2 and force data plan on my contract some time down the 2 year contract.....
Do you really want to risk the chance of not having a warranty though....???
I thought they had to list the IMEI when you sign up in order to establish the acct. but you never know. Just give it a long thought b/c you wouldnt want the phone to be defective after allowed time period and then have to pay $130 (assuming you get insurance) for another one....
He said i can't buy the insurance or claim any type of warranty because then T-mobile will get the IMEI and probably enforce the data plan. So i really don't know how this works....
In any event... if i pay $30 a month X 24 months i'm going to be out $720, by that time i've spent enough money to buy TWO HD2..... $720 dollars worth of service i don't really need because i have Wifi in most the places i travel to.
Yes it will work but you won't have any data at all. It will just say your phone is not supported on this network. In the future if you want data or text its $30 unlimited for both text and data. Or if you have skype you can get unlimited data alone for $39.99. I was thinking of that for a while. I think the dataplan is how they give you the phone, I thought it was mandatory so he may be cheating tmo out of money. Tmo stores are mostly independent and will lie cheat and steal from you any chance they get. I remeber one friend saying they were nice enough to recognize his IME and upgrade his dataplan automatically. Your Tmo guy may not tell you this. I would call Tmobile and order the phones you want online. If you don't want data but want an HD2 what about getting an HD2 on craigslist for $250 new and selling what you get from tmo, either a Touch Pro 2 , or a BB 9700 I think right now. Or get your kids phones on the plan and buy yours on CL.
If you get the international version, you won't have 3g too. If you ever changed your mind about the data plan, you would be using it with edge. MUCH slower. Just buy the t-mobile one off craigslist and don't go on the internet via t-mobile. Just wifi. Ive never seen them put it on when someone doesn't have any internet. If you had the cheap internet plan, ive seen them refuse access to the internet until you buy the more expensive one but even that you can get around by changing the apn. Hell, im using my hd2 with $5.99 t-zones! With the epc apn! (Every time i call t-mobile about something, they give me this horror story about how my phone will shut off or stop working if i don't get the full data plan. They push it VERY hard but i keep refusing. I pay $100 in data plans on all my lines already!)
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Yes it will work but you won't have any data at all. It will just say your phone is not supported on this network. In the future if you want data or text its $30 unlimited for both text and data. Or if you have skype you can get unlimited data alone for $39.99. I was thinking of that for a while. I think the dataplan is how they give you the phone, I thought it was mandatory so he may be cheating tmo out of money. Tmo stores are mostly independent and will lie cheat and steal from you any chance they get. I remeber one friend saying they were nice enough to recognize his IME and upgrade his dataplan automatically. Your Tmo guy may not tell you this. I would call Tmobile and order the phones you want online. If you don't want data but want an HD2 what about getting an HD2 on craigslist for $250 new and selling what you get from tmo, either a Touch Pro 2 , or a BB 9700 I think right now. Or get your kids phones on the plan and buy yours on CL.
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'Really? Im paying $30 for web alone and then $10 for text. smh
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'Really? Im paying $30 for web alone and then $10 for text. smh
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Really and HD2 without a data plan is like buying a Lamborgini without an engine ...
It'll look good sitting in your garage, but what ya gonna do with it ???
Seriously , get the data plan , if you live in an area with HSDPA or even better HSDPA+ it is worth it, with the latter you can get upwards of 7 meg or so down in good coverage area, the data plan is pretty cheap for that kind of bandwidth ...
If not , just get you a pda and cheap phone ...
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Really and HD2 without a data plan is like buying a Lamborgini without an engine ...
It'll look good sitting in your garage, but what ya gonna do with it ???
Seriously , get the data plan , if you live in an area with HSDPA or even better HSDPA+ it is worth it, with the latter you can get upwards of 7 meg or so down in good coverage area, the data plan is pretty cheap for that kind of bandwidth ...
If not , just get you a pda and cheap phone ...
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Yeah. i dont want to lose my data b/c its more dependable. but i have been hearing from a few ppl that their txt is included in that chrge. Maybe i need to actually take a look at my statement...
I'm fully aware that the international version does not support the proper radio freq for Tmobile 3G but i've never heard of the phone not working because of the lack of data plan, the phone should work without the internet.
I refuse to pay $30 for 3G access when i have wifi ..... i have a HTC TYTN2 right now and all i do is make calls, txt and GPS... i rarely use the internet. I could care less about all the features i won't be able to use without data plan i'm in it more for the eye candy...... Now if they offered $30 for 4G access i would consider it.
Right now I really want the vibrant, but i'm not eligible for full upgrade from tmobile so i can't get the phone for 100 from costco where its on sale. Since my brother whose in a family plan with my parents is eligible, he could get me the phone since he says he's fine with his old sidekick.
So would it be as simple as him ordering the phone, giving it to me, and myself putting the sim card in, and using it right away? Also, I understand he has to get the data plan since it's required, but could he technically call tomobile to take it off and say he lost it? Because he's fine with his old sidekick and not wanting a data plan added on his bill. I would appreciate any responses thankyou.
Yes that should work fine. They may require you to add a data plan to your line though.
as for using a different line for upgrading the phone on another line, that is fine - I do this all the time (my company has over 30 lines, and most employees are still on the same phone they got in 2002)
the data plan will be an issue - technically, the price of the phone is subsidized by the data plan, so he would not be able to just cancel the data plan. if that were possible, tmobile would lose money, and that is a big NO-NO
But, I've heard from different people, that if you did report the phone lost, they would take the data plan off. Or that could go to your online t-mobile account and change what phone you have, like if you change that you have a "dumbphone". Can anyone else confirm this?
I was able to cancel the data plan here is how: Once you buy the phone and the data plan is active login at the t-mobile website and change the phone to another phone. On the left click on the line you just bought the phone on, then under the picture of the phone you just bought click on "not your phone/device" then choose a cheapo phone from the list (one that does not require an internet plan). Now you should be able to go under that accounts plan and cancel the internet. If this does not work then you would have to start begging tmobile to remove it (just explain to them the real situation and that you will add the plan to your line) usually if you have been a long time well paying customer they will help you.
Just have your brother, or whomever's name under the account, call in and ask to remove the Android data plan and put back the Sidekick plan. Of course, your brother's sim card needs to be in the sidekick at the time you request the change. If they ask for a reason, just say "I didn't like it, so I gave it to my brother." That's it. Keep it simple.
Cool, appreciate all the responses guys. I don't think my brother has the Sidekick plan, he just has the regular family plan line with no data or anything.
Okay, it's been about 2 weeks, and so I decided to call about the phone and switching the data plan. However, T-mobile would not allow my brother to switch his data plan over to my account. They won't allow him to get rid of the data charge on his account period. The only option the rep gave me was to downgrade to a sidekick plan for his account which basically cost the samee anyways. Anyone know what I should do now?
That will work, but like others said they will require you to have that data plan. So your brother will be stuck with his sidekick data plan and the data plan for the Vibrant. Unlike other phones I do not think he can use the Android data plan with his Sidekick. I have used my G1 plan with the Mytouch 3g, Cliq, HD2, and now my Vibrant. As you can see I used it with a non-adroid device (HD2) and it worked fine, but I think sidekicks are in a whole different league.
Just wait it out. How much longer is your contract. Also go to walmart instead of costco. If you go anywhere else you will get taxed on the full price of the phone when walmart only tax the cost shown. For example walmart taxes on 98.99. Whereas everyone else will tax 500.00.
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Talk to a T-mo representative in store and ask them if you have a equipment credit line. I'm not eligible for upgrade until Nov but I have like $300 ECL. So I still got the phone at the same price of an upgrade.
Appreciate the responses guys, but right now I have the phone and it's great and everything. I even got the data plan myself. But what im trying to figure out is how to take the data plan completely off my brothers account since he technically doesnt own the phone anymore and having the plan would be useless.
I've talked to 3 different reps and each refused to take his plan off. One rep recommended to go to the store and buy a cheap "dumbphone" for like 50 bucks which takes his data plan off. It seems like my only option now and would you guys recommend that?
Well the terms are that you signed into a 2yr contract knowing there is a data plan requirement for 2 years. And now you want help getting it off? I don't think it would be appropriate to ask that here.
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Hi, I just upgraded my N97 to the G2 and got the HD7 free on black Friday.
I didn't have a data plan before, but when I look up my service it says I have 4g unlimited? I can't seem to find the service fee for it either.
I don't want to get a surprise at the end of the month and be hit with a $30 data plan.
Should I be worried?
The Rep told me the upgrade is only for the phone and does not affect the plan.
If I did get free 4G service then WOOT!
highly doubt it. when you upgrade, they change your data rate plan to the required one for your device. you're most likely going to get charged for it
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My brother got the HD7 and he had the 5.99 tmobile web plan, does this mean he lost his tmobile web plan forever? We he don't plan on keeping the phone and plans to go back to his Milestone.
For tmobile I know that if you upgrade a phone to a "data service required" model, YOU WILL NOT NEED A DATA SERVICE TO USE IT. They pull that bs to get more money out of you on the upgrade offer. All you need is a sim card for the phones designated provider. I know this because I handle the phones in the family plan for my family and have seen nearly every situation and outcome. Every 2 years each of us has a phone we get an upgrade for that individual line. We do not take upgrades always in turn and in the past have bought these "data plan required" phones off craigslist or ebay. They still work. If you use the data without a plan you will get charged out the ass. Luckily you can restrict yourself from doing that just incase you can't remember not to. You will also not lose the web features that are registered to your sim card. If you have the edge package (the cheaper one) and stick your sim in another phone, that phone now becomes "edge" enabled. Same goes for 3G package unless you put it in a HSPA compatible phone, then you will have the HSPA capabilities. Kinda nice that they aren't charging a jacked up fee for their new data service, but my connection locally sucks for it anyways so go figure.
One other rule about tmobile that I like is that they grandfather you on certain things. For example, I pay a flat $55 monthly for unlimited minutes/texts/data and they no longer have this plan available but since I've had it for the last few years, I am an exception to any plans they have now and that makes me a happier camper.
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so should I call the rep at the store back and tell him to remove the 4g unlimited?
I never had a data plan before the update, but my bro had the 5.99 plan.
or should i switch to a dumb phone and remove it myself?
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You will NOT be able to keep the phone if you want to cancel the data plan. Tmobile requires the data plan as a part of the deal on the upgrade. I have a hard time believing this wasn't made abundantly clear to you before you upgraded.
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That's what I heard, but I kept asking the Rep, Will the upgrade add or change anything to my current, plan and he kept saying no. And he assured me that the upgrade is only for the phone. He told me the Data plan is only for new subscribers.
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That's what I heard, but I kept asking the Rep, Will the upgrade add or change anything to my current, plan and he kept saying no. And he assured me that the upgrade is only for the phone. He told me the Data plan is only for new subscribers.
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Ray as much as I would like to say woohooo for you, it is a well know problem with T-Mo Reps...They hay no clue what they are talking about! I would check your online account in the next few days, but you may not see it until your new billing cycle. These folks really suck at getting their fact straight!
Anyway, i hope that ou do get what you wanted, and keep us posted on the long term outcome.!
I find that no one ever knows what they are doing. I upgraded to the G2 and was very happy until the website said that another data plan was added to our contract for 30 a month. I've had a data plan for quite a while and it was 25 a month. When we called Tmo, they said I had to have that data plan on top of my old one to keep the phone. They were obviously mistaken but refused to do any of the leg work to get it fixed. I had to make calls to Best Buy and Tmo many times to make sure that it was fixed. Sorry for the rant, I just find it hard to believe that anyone has gone through this process smoothly when it has been a huge pain in the ass every time I have upgraded a phone.
I checked online and i saw the $30 data plan. I knew it wasn't going to be free, but oh well.
Do you guys know if i could change it to the $15 data plan?
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I would recomend to anyone getting phones on contract.... buy the phone outright and all the plans become cheaper. Once gou have a contract you loose all your bargining chips. If i have a problem with my service i can call them up and say fix this or i cancel. They will quickly transfer me to a level whatever rep that has the power to change anything oon my plan to keep me happy. Just an fyi if you dont have the cash to buy the phone tmo has a plan that you pay them 20 a month till it paid off no interest. Even going that route monthly rate is still less then being on contract.
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Reps will generally tell you whatever they can to make a sale. The rep outright lied to you when he said it wouldn't require a data plan.you should've asked for it in writing.
All subsidized smartphones require a compatible data plan (except the Nokia Nuron) for the life of the contract.
He didn't say I didn't need data, he just said he wouldn't add or change anything. He just never mentioned I will need a data plan.
looks like my bro won't be getting his 5.99 tzone plan back.
Does forcing us to get a data plan go under that net neutrality thing?
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He didn't say I didn't need data, he just said he wouldn't add or change anything.
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Well, I guess he didn't really lie then... the computer did it automatically.
Seriously though, he probably assumed you already had a data plan due to having an N97 smartphone.
Does forcing us to get a data plan go under that net neutrality thing?
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Not a chance. It's a term stipulated by the contract in order for you to get the discounted price. All spelled out in the terms and conditions paper you sign.
On the G2, you can just use the "My Account" app, "Plan and Services" tab - it will show you up to the minute info regarding your plan, details, and monthly costs. Nothing is free, but TMo is as close as you can get in the US.
What happen is for some reason when upgrading 2 lines only the first one gets the "unlimited 4g" I ran into this problem a few days ago. The system doesn't automatically add the web on the second device(the "free" one) So the customer leaves the store with out the internet of the second device. Now unless he went into your account and changed the tzone package then you should be fine. But in the case that he did just call customer care and have them put the old feature on. They will be reluctant to do so and say that it doesnt exist anymore but they keep all of the plans in the system. Reps just dont like to go into the system and find the package. Hope this helps.