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Trillian for Android: Your Thoughts...

So, I just downloaded this bad boy and been enjoying it so far. Definitely a lot better than Fring and Nimbuzz. If there was one thing I would change, it would be the option to reduce the size of the avatars and contacts names on the list. With such a large screen, we would be able to fit most, if not all, of our contacts without the need for scrolling.
Anyways, aside from that, my main concern is battery consumption. What are your thoughts so far? How much drain are you experiencing with it? How does it compare to other Multi-IM apps out there?
Let's get some convos going!
PS - BTW, here's the link for the BETA: http://www.trillian.im/learn/tour-android.html

thanks for the heads up... been waiting for this or beejive for the longest

Android Cloud to Device Messaging?
Does anyone know if it uses the new Android Cloud to Device Messaging? If so that should seriously improve its battery consumption over other IM apps.

I haven't tried Trillian but Meebo works just fine. Meebo also has a nice web client that I have been using for years.

Minjin said:
I haven't tried Trillian but Meebo works just fine. Meebo also has a nice web client that I have been using for years.
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I'm a fan of Meebo too..

akarol said:
So, I just downloaded this bad boy and been enjoying it so far. Definitely a lot better than Fring and Nimbuzz. If there was one thing I would change, it would be the option to reduce the size of the avatars and contacts names on the list. With such a large screen, we would be able to fit most, if not all, of our contacts without the need for scrolling.
Anyways, aside from that, my main concern is battery consumption. What are your thoughts so far? How much drain are you experiencing with it? How does it compare to other Multi-IM apps out there?
Let's get some convos going!
PS - BTW, here's the link for the BETA: http://www.trillian.im/learn/tour-android.html
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Yea i downloaded a few hours ago and its running beautiful. i havent noticed anything when it comes to the battery YET, i will confirm that tomorrow. I also agree with you when it comes to the Avatar size, with my Evo they look way too big. other then that great APP!

Just reading the name "Trillian" makes my blood boil.

I'm enjoying it so far. I like the interface better than eBuddy, and it doesn't show a notification icon while it's running in the background. I'm really impressed with it just being a beta, and I'm looking forward to the updates.

I've been using it and it's the best IM app yet. I'm a bit concerned about battery life though. I receive messages while on background but they're not instant, meaning it looks like the app is polling the server, which would drain the battery as opposed to keeping a push connection.
Update: Okay now all of a sudden my messages are coming right away. Maybe it's push? Also, I've noticed under settings, you can have it send a notification to your push Gmail account when someone IMs you you select "Suspend" instead of "Sign off", which would save a lot of battery.

dallashigh said:
Just reading the name "Trillian" makes my blood boil.
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Did you have a thing for her or something?

SilverZero said:
Did you have a thing for her or something?
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LOL. Tried it (desktop version) a few times in the middle of the decade. It was always way too bloated and resource-hungry, yet never had any features I actually wanted or needed. I'm sure the Android version is different, but the brand name means I will never touch it.
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i've been using meebo but use trillian on all my PCs. looking forward to testing this out.

dallashigh said:
LOL. Tried it (desktop version) a few times in the middle of the decade. It was always way too bloated and resource-hungry, yet never had any features I actually wanted or needed. I'm sure the Android version is different, but the brand name means I will never touch it.
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Yeah, I was never a fan myself. But I kinda got tired of IM in college. Started out in the early days of ICQ and Messenger, graduated to AIM, then I just got tired of other people.
Glad you at least got my reference, though.

tried it, looks pretty, not impressed

Tried it looks ok but I really need a client with true push notifications the cloud iphone Type

Jsimon9633 said:
Tried it looks ok but I really need a client with true push notifications the cloud iphone Type
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it actually looks like they are using Push for background notifications. That's what I just read on their blog.

zeuzinn said:
it actually looks like they are using Push for background notifications. That's what I just read on their blog.
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I gathered that there is some confusion on what suspended means in that asp and so it is not clear to me what exactly they are doing

i loved trillian back in the day... when i actually IMed people. i may download this just to take a look. nice find.

I like it but I definitely think that the avatars are a bit too large on the Evo. Needs a skin to fix that...
Lets see what the battery impact is...

Video chat support?

How do I turn off the blocking of playing music with Low Battery?

If they battery gets below 15%, I can't play music. It gives me a message about "please plug in the phone huaoaoaaouuo." I don't care if I'm going to run my battery dead sometimes I just want to hear a song!
I feel like there should be an option for this some where but I can't find it.

The only option I've found is to download another media player off of the marketplace, that being said I really like the real player one since I watch a lot of movies on my phone as well a listen to music
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I use MixZing and it works fine for me, thats what I used to run my battery dead the day I got it.

Wow samsung. Just wow.
I don't really want to use another music player but I guess that's what I'll have to do. Thanks guys.

akijikan said:
Wow samsung. Just wow.
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Wait until you try to use the camera with low battery.

jjthe2 said:
Wait until you try to use the camera with low battery.
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*kicks samsung*
So annoying
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PokeAsheep said:
*kicks samsung*
So annoying
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What's worse? ANY APP that tries to access the camera will fail. any. app.

Xodium said:
What's worse? ANY APP that tries to access the camera will fail. any. app.
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You're 100% wrong. Vignette works.

infamousjax said:
You're 100% wrong. Vignette works.
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I tried taking a photo from Facebook and it threw the low battery warning in my face. Same with Retro Camera >_<
I'll give Vignette a shot.

Thats not just Samsung, its Android.

i was able to run my hero into the ground. low battery never stopped it. unless htc did some of their software wizardry

A_Flying_Fox said:
i was able to run my hero into the ground. low battery never stopped it. unless htc did some of their software wizardry
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Same here, hero would die before it closed out of an app to save battery...literally.

akijikan said:
If they battery gets below 15%, I can't play music. It gives me a message about "please plug in the phone huaoaoaaouuo." I don't care if I'm going to run my battery dead sometimes I just want to hear a song!
I feel like there should be an option for this some where but I can't find it.
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akijikan said:
Wow samsung. Just wow.
I don't really want to use another music player but I guess that's what I'll have to do. Thanks guys.
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jjthe2 said:
Wait until you try to use the camera with low battery.
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OMG... I hate this issue... I mean i appreciate the warning and all... but I should at least have the choice... maybe have the pop-up with a continue anyway button or a way to disable in settings...
The idea of warning and attempting to save the battery is a good one, but making it a mandatory default is an apple move, and its sill I have to download third party apps to get around it... if thats the case I cant wait for 2.2 so i can update and just flash a custom rom completely getting rid of all the useless stuff... including the lock down default apps... no point in having two cam or music apps on one device...ahh well

I read that the reason they stop the camera from being able to take photos and the music from playing is that they want to minimize the risk of corrupting the SD card by not writing to it when the phone dies. What doesn't make any sense why they chose 15% and not a more sensible 3% or even 5%. This really pisses me off.

Using Launcher Pro, easier way to close apps faster?

I heard App Killers use memory, so I was wondering is there a way to get a shortcut, or a way to tweak to put what apps I want terminated and that I use on the go all at once or all in the same list? It's annoying to go into settings, then applications, then run and scroll through each one and force stop lol .

Don't force apps to stop. If it's not in use, it doesn't matter if it's in the memory.
Linux operates differently. In Windows you could use up a bunch of memory and it slows things down, but until you get to a critical level your Atrix isn't going to slow down. It's better to let it manage itself, otherwise it will simply start the task over and pull it to the foreground even though it was using no resources happily in the background.
Only close apps if they're erratic or if you want to clear memory for something hardcore like a PSX or N64 emulator, etc.
Trust me. I don't kill apps and used my phone like some sort of newb, but it actually works way better than when I try erratically killing apps all the time.

so even if its in the running tab say like browser and gmail, and say an app that uses gps and data and I close it but don't force stop it, it won't do a big deal on my battery? Sorry im new to all this, very new.
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As soon as apps like Maps are out of focus (not immediately running on your screen) the GPS will stop searching. You will notice that Android is more than capable of handling it's own memory management. Just relax and let the OS do it's job. Some things you're killing with a task killer will just be immediately reopened by Android, as it's being referenced by another app. That will kill your battery much more so than just letting Android remove resources from a running app.

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so even if its in the running tab say like browser and gmail, and say an app that uses gps and data and I close it but don't force stop it, it won't do a big deal on my battery? Sorry im new to all this, very new.
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Divinedark said:
As soon as apps like Maps are out of focus (not immediately running on your screen) the GPS will stop searching. You will notice that Android is more than capable of handling it's own memory management. Just relax and let the OS do it's job. Some things you're killing with a task killer will just be immediately reopened by Android, as it's being referenced by another app. That will kill your battery much more so than just letting Android remove resources from a running app.
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^^^
This brother is right!
Yep, it's kind of a strange concept. I was so skeptical and yes, sometimes I look at the stuff in the background and still get suspicious. But the battery life and performance speaks for itself. After months and months of it pestering me, I finally submitted. I only kill tasks before running high end console emulators or a couple other apps that require a lot of juice.
It's definitely something that takes time getting used to. I've had an Android for almost exactly a year to this day and it's still a hard concept to grasp. As long as you're not running some crappy program that was poorly coded, it otherwise does a great job.
First Android OS was 1.6/Donut and that wasn't nearly as good as Froyo and Gingerbread. HUGE difference. I'm using an Xperia X10 because my Atrix is currently broken, but I've got CM running Gingerbread and WOW. It's like a completely different phone!! Even just the stock Froyo handles tasks much better. The Atrix is damn near flawless in comparison too.

tripleh3lix said:
I heard App Killers use memory, so I was wondering is there a way to get a shortcut, or a way to tweak to put what apps I want terminated and that I use on the go all at once or all in the same list? It's annoying to go into settings, then applications, then run and scroll through each one and force stop lol .
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I like Watchdog, http://goo.gl/c4On5. It will tell you if an app needs killing. You can even put a widget on your screen and watch how many apps are running, how many are idle, and what % of cpu is used.

bongd said:
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This brother is right!
Yep, it's kind of a strange concept. I was so skeptical and yes, sometimes I look at the stuff in the background and still get suspicious. But the battery life and performance speaks for itself. After months and months of it pestering me, I finally submitted. I only kill tasks before running high end console emulators or a couple other apps that require a lot of juice.
It's definitely something that takes time getting used to. I've had an Android for almost exactly a year to this day and it's still a hard concept to grasp. As long as you're not running some crappy program that was poorly coded, it otherwise does a great job.
First Android OS was 1.6/Donut and that wasn't nearly as good as Froyo and Gingerbread. HUGE difference. I'm using an Xperia X10 because my Atrix is currently broken, but I've got CM running Gingerbread and WOW. It's like a completely different phone!! Even just the stock Froyo handles tasks much better. The Atrix is damn near flawless in comparison too.
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Thank you. I have 4 and a half hours with this thing powered on, and screen is on an hour and a half and it's on 50 percent already. Was using maps and just texting that's about it. I keep turning gps off when done.
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Screen Wobble/Battery Consumption (Xperia Play User Comparison)

Hi Yall
Ive had the xperia play for around 2 weeks now and loving it but seeing as im pretty particular about my new gadgets im just wondering if my xperia play is the same as everyone elses.
Ive basically got only a couple queries which are:
1. How is your screen wobble when the slider is opened and closed?
With mine, when the slider is closed there is a slight gap between the gamepad and the screen so when you use the touch screen (for smsing etc) you can here the tapping of the screen on the gamepad.
When the slider is open on the other hand the same thing happens but only on the bottom 2 corners of the screen you can push them slightly down onto the gamepad with slight movement.
2. How is your battery usage/life?
With mine, I basically get 1 or 1.5 days battery life depending on what I am doing but I cant help notice that even with little things such as sending a quick sms or simply going through the phones settings will actually eat 1% or 2% of the battery life. This normal?
Lastly, im new to android as I have recently switched from the iphone so when im looking at the stock android app killer thats built into the device under the applications section. What is actually using the battery? As you go the the running apps part its got used and free application that show up. are both of these eating the battery or is it just the used ones?
Thank You in advance and thanks for comparing.

this has been discussed over and over again, please use search first before posting.
Anyway, Markus (developer I think) from Sony Ericsson confirmed the "LITTLE" wobble and small gap when closed is normal. That is in accordance to their design engineers' wants to allow users to have a good feel when using the gaming device. As with any side-slider phones, THIS IS NORMAL.
Regarding the battery, that is just fine. You are actually getting the juice out of it. Period. I had mine rooted and bloatware removed, but the difference in battery consumption against non-rooted didn't vary a lot. So I reverted back to NO BLOATWARE REMOVED (but still rooted though) to preserve my ability to update via OTA in the future and it's working just fine. I believe the phone is managing itself very well so there's no need for us to be doing a lot of tweaks that could be potentially dangerous. And oh, I believe you're already on 2.3.3 because on 2.3.2 the battery won't even last a day. Mine lasts a maximum of 35 hours on 2.3.3 with moderate use, 4-5 hours on straight gaming.
EDIT: Never use third-party App Killers/Task Managers! I read somewhere legit that they will just screw up your phone. Android phones are way better off with spiking memory usages because that's the time when the phone starts to manage itself actually. Remember, devs and engineers will never release a device that cannot manage itself. Love your device! Love it even more if it's in stock condition!

If you want speed, memory and more battery then do this
Batteryurchase juice defender ultimate, it's absolutely wonderful and ACTUALLY works. With root it saved me x1.50 on battery, without root it saved me x2. 0
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer will free up RAM and stop battery consumption for a few minutes.
Speed: unlocking bootloader and then rooting, installing titanium backup and removing bloatware, uninstalling useless apps and freezing will make it noticibly fast. You can also use. SETCPU for extended battery and faster performance. And SD speed increase
For more speed and precision , flash doomkernel
That will catapult your battery to 10 hours, and will get you to another day.
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Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.

Cat_On_Droid said:
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer
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There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.
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It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.

like i said in my post, that is normal. why fix something that is normal?

I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol

then there's nothing we can do about that. no one's bothered about that here anyway.

So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?

FK1983 said:
There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.
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i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Either way anything that kills apps is bad. I used to do it religiously on my old Droid, and then I read that article and said hey lets just give it a shot. Well it took a while (like a couple days) for the phone to catch up but it actually started to run BETTER and less stuff was crashing and force closing.
I still have Advanced task killer on my phone, but I use it for one thing only, to kill apps that screw up but don't Force Close (generally Facebook because that app is a piece of ****e....)

there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?

KoolMoeDee KMD said:
I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol
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Lol know what you meen, those small things, kind of ocd behavior Mine is rock steady no wobble here.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?
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My R is slightly looser, but that's from gaming on it.
Regards Dousan...
Old school name you've got there from when hip hop was underground and not comercial as it is today

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Ahh ok, Sorry!

Screen wobble is barely noticeable, battery life is amazing.

narflynn619 said:
there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?
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There is quite a good aricle on lifehacker that says all about the native memory management and why task killers are useless

Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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When i was using GO launcher, i had a nasty habbit of using the one in the app draw every time i opened it
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You can stick a teflon mouse skate at the back of the screen just behind the home button. It won't completely eliminate wobble but it makes it a lot more stable when pressing any of the face buttons or texting.

When a task killer kills apps, most of them just restart. If you want it to be truly effective, you need to have root, titanium pro, and freeze them.
Plus, task killers use extra CPU and ram, resulting in more power being used. They just keep killing apps repeatedly and eat your battery.
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Do you use all the features?

I'm planning on getting the htc one but some of these features seem really cool on the s4, so my question is do you use them all or are they just a bunch of gimmicks.
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Absolutely none, just patiently waiting for CM10

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I'm planning on getting the htc one but some of these features seem really cool on the s4, so my question is do you use them all or are they just a bunch of gimmicks.
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Really the only one that has impressed me is the eraser mode on the camera that removes moving objects... otherwise, all the "smart" features stay off. Battery hogs to the max.

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Battery hogs to the max.
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Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
While a lot of the features are gimmicks some are actually very useful.
Smart stay - (the best one out of all them, should be in stock Android)
Quick glance - (use this all time while it's on my desk or on a table)
Air view - (helps me dig through text messages fast and zoom in on some websites)
Air gesture - (I actually go in the gallery a lot and this makes browsing photos more fun and... natural? in a sense)
Palm motion - (use this all the time to answer phone calls and mute or pause music also use it to capture screenshots
Direct call - (I have to admit it's nice and very useful to just directly call someone while simply just moving the phone to your head while in the texting or contacts app)
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I used Air View for a bit but it made my screen too sensitive which i used those specific programs.
besides that the only Air feature that i might turn on is Air Call Accept. And it only works during phone calls so its not bad.
The watchon TV controller thing is a bit weird. Doesnt work all the time..

Today I was eating lunch with my phone next to me. Got a call and used the gesture to answer and have the speaker turn on without me touching the phone. That was nice. Voice control camera is cool, but saying different things changes how the camera shoots. I'm still figuring that one out.

Thanks for the replies, none of these sounds useful to me.
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Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
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Just because i dont have them on now doesnt mean ive never used them.

sulpher said:
Just because i dont have them on now doesnt mean ive never used them. Great job being a douche though~
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OMG... I wasn't trying to come off negative, sorry if it seemed that way. I just hate when people like to call out facts when they haven't even used or tested the subject themselfs.
Notice I also said "unless" you did use them yourself.
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Bjray said:
OMG... I wasn't trying to come off negative, sorry if it seemed that way. I just hate when people like to call out facts when they haven't even used or tested the subject themselfs.
Notice I also said "unless" you did use them yourself.
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Alright, i apologize for the snap judgement. Im fanatical about battery, and they do drain extra, which to me is unacceptable for what you get in exchange. Was much more impressed with the smart stay than any of the new ones, and depending on how many times you let the screen almost time out it can add a fairly substantial amount.
Your right, i should probably rephrase my 'hog' assessment, im probably more picky than others about battery. .

Bjray said:
Unless you use the "smart" features you don't know that for a fact. I have been using the smart features on and off for over a week, with the features / gimmicks on and running there isn't much battery drain at all.
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Completely agree with you!
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