Can apps in /system/app use GPS when disabled? - Galaxy S I9000 General

I put Lookout security in /system/app and now when I track my phone I can still get 5m accuracy, although it takes about 5 minutes to track. Is this working it out from the Phone masts or GPS?
I read Mobile Defence can remotely enable GPS but the registrations are currently closed.
Thanks.

Can anyone test how accurate Lookout is with GPS disabled and not in /system/app please?
Thanks.

Does anyone know a reliable way of doing this please?

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Free GPS app. to track distance walked in meters/feet?

Anyone know of a free GPS app. I can use on the Trinity to cover distance walked in meters (or feet)? All I have on there now is Google maps for mobile, which works fine w/ the GPS but doesn't tell me how far I have gone. I guess I could try to set a GPS "home" starting point and enter my GPS "destination" when I get there, and see if GMM would tell me the distance... but I was hoping one of you folks knew of something better for me to use.... thanks all for any pointers....
Free GPS software list
Just come across this page, not sure if it is what you are after....
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html
Thanks! I'll run thru this link and see if I can find something... nice find!
Use gps tuner it work very well for me.
Bye,Base

GPS not working on Diamond2

Hi,
I have no GPS signal with my Touch Diamond 2. But I don't have TomTom, IGo or something else. I just want to get the GPS signal to use in QuickGPS. But there is no signal at all. Does anyone know why?
And where can I configure the internal GPS antenna? Is that possible?
For testing I downloaded and installed odgps (outdoor gps), but it get's also no signal. In odgps I have configured COM4 with Baudrate 4800. But no signal. Does anyone know how I have to configure GPS programs to get them work (as said, I cannot find a screen to get or set the configuration of the internal GPS antenna).
Could a hard reset help (as for the old Touch Diamond)? I would like to avoid that due to the destruction of the data...
I have also posted this in another Thread but I guess I was on a wrong one...
Thanks in advance for your help and best regards,
B.
Did you try Google Maps with "Use GPS" function... Default settings find satellites, even indoor areas..
Yes I did. It worked after switching it off an on again. Now I got GPS with google maps. First goal is achieved. Thanks for this tip.
But: Does anyone know how to retrieve the configuration of my internal GPS device. I have to configure it in another application (odgps), but I don't get it to work (com4/4800 or com4/9600 or com3/4800 and some other config data is all wrong): Odgps gets no signal.
Thanks for tips and hints.
hi,
Same problem as Brummerowski here.
my TD2 shows my location on google maps.
but when ever i try to seek a GPS Satellite on google maps or Garmin it keeps on searching without a result.
thanks for your assistance
This same problem keeps on cropping up with the TD2. Some users never seem to have problems, others do (I'm one of those) and there have been countless suggestions to (try to) sort it out.
On my TD2, Google Maps won't start the GPS module any more (it used to) and I use another very simple app http://freewareppc.com/travel/wmminigps.shtml to start it manually before using Google Maps. This seems reliable so far.
Gps setting for google maps with d2
I was able to use GPS with Google maps, by setting gps options by choosing COM4 and baud rate from 4800 to 57600.
I have never been able to fix on any satellites using google maps, and been waiting up to 10 minutes to just find two or three sats.
Solved by running third-party gps apps, like Beelinegps, or GPS Config. For some reason they are able to get a fix in under 30 seconds indoors. Then I just switch to google maps and it shows my position instantly.

locations and weather widget

Okay so randomly my weather widget stoped working, it's stuck on one location which is 5 miles away from me...it used to work perfectly. I read up a little and seems it's known problem...Any solutions...Yes i've tried hard reset.
Htc Locations and (Google) Maps is brilliant except it doesn't find my exact location...maybe a couple of streets away...
Is this normal? I mean I used to get exactly location when i turn off "Use wireless to find location" and Gps is off...So it's finding location from nothing??? but it found it exact then it can't update and asks me to switch on location settings and once on it can't find the exact location.
I'd be thankful if anyone could elaborate and explain things a little...
I wonder if someone with a wifi network has moved house.... (given that google were using wifi networks (apparantly) for location data - it even suggests as much in the phone's tips when you run through the settings....)./
One thing I would suggest is that just by using cell-tower triangulation the system won't be very accurate. But if you turn on GPS and get more than 3 or 4 satellites connected it should be very accurate.
Riceburner said:
I wonder if someone with a wifi network has moved house.... (given that google were using wifi networks (apparantly) for location data - it even suggests as much in the phone's tips when you run through the settings....)./
One thing I would suggest is that just by using cell-tower triangulation the system won't be very accurate. But if you turn on GPS and get more than 3 or 4 satellites connected it should be very accurate.
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Nope I'm just using data connection from my providers. no wifi. So You reply states : okay maps and locations wouldn't be very accurate due to no gps...Answers my questions. thanks
Now any ideas on the why the weather widget is only showing one location all the time ( current location )...Which is 5 miles away from me...

[Q] Anyone Elses GPS Aweful?

I have never had my GPS locate me via google maps. My Phone has no issues. Anyone else have GPS issues? any tips? Hopefully a software update fixes it? I have a friend who has the same issue.
[Should have read "awful", not aweful]
Nothing wrong with my gps. Have you upgraded to the latest firmware? Downloaded the A-GPS data (you can get this by using an app called GPS status)? Switch OFF wifi after you do, then leave it to get a full signal lock (takes up to 15minutes or so with a clear view of the sky).
toddmp said:
I have never had my GPS locate me via google maps. My Phone has no issues. Anyone else have GPS issues? any tips? Hopefully a software update fixes it? I have a friend who has the same issue.
[Should have read "awful", not aweful]
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Make sure you are outside with a clear view of sky when you test. It can take any GPS up to 10 minutes to acquire the ephemeris information (satellite position at a certain time) and lock up. You phone cheats this by using the cellular network to provide a general location of where your are and therefore where to look for certain satellites.
thanks so much for the info guys. I had a feeling it had something to do with no cell phone band helping out. thanks!
GPS works fine here, as other have said the closer you are to the sky/window the better.
yeah..give your TF a few minutes to lock up sat positions (if you've never done this)..
this applies to most pure gps devices..cellphones can use cellular network signal to quickly locate your position but the data isn't really from gps itself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088120
Hope this helps
Acid lestitious 2.0. Fugumod 2.4 800 mhz
jerrykur said:
Make sure you are outside with a clear view of sky when you test. It can take any GPS up to 10 minutes to acquire the ephemeris information (satellite position at a certain time) and lock up. You phone cheats this by using the cellular network to provide a general location of where your are and therefore where to look for certain satellites.
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I wonder if it does the wifi cheat like maps for android phones, where it uses the known APs to determine location? I say that because when I first fired up my transformer yesterday, after connecting to wifi, I screwed around on maps and it found me inside my house in less than 30 seconds.
toddmp said:
I have never had my GPS locate me via google maps. My Phone has no issues. Anyone else have GPS issues? any tips? Hopefully a software update fixes it? I have a friend who has the same issue.
[Should have read "awful", not aweful]
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its the reverse for me! in the same room of house i often cannot get a fix on my Optimus 2x. i use GPS Staus app. but i often get fix within 30secs. as a test i have both machines running the app next to each other and the transformer always gets regular fixes.
..... hmm just realised as i type this that i have a phone called optimus and tablet called transformer, and they both run android!!!
I get fixes with no wifi (ie: only GPS) within 30 seconds.
Quite the opposite, mine is extremely accurate. After it gets a fix on maps that little google person is standing right in my front yard in the satellite view! Better than my Droid!
Mine is almost instantaneous. Just tried it at home based on this thread and had a read in probably 5 seconds.
I have not been able to obtain a GPS lock until today when I set my location to use wireless networks. To me this is really stupid because the GPS shouldn't have to use any location settings to obtain a lock in my mind. That is if the GPS chip in the TF is a true GPS chip it should not to rely on a wifi signal to obtain a lock. If the GPS is turned on then it should lock.
I tested sygic gps navigation 11 and signal lock and quality was better than my galaxy s was pretty accurate
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Works fine for me, apart from one minor detail. When I switch from Google Maps to another app, even for a few seconds, then the tablet has to get a lock all over again. There appears to be no way to set the GPS to keep a lock while Google Maps isn't the active program.
That, for me, makes Google Maps near-useless in a moving vehicle. Hopefully other third-party apps won't have this issue.
Google Maps is prety much useless on the Transformer for GPS navigation as a data connection is need. I have heard of people caching a route before hand but ..... Copilot Live 7 is out for android so that is one option. However if the GPS relies on a wifi signal in order to obtain a lock then it is about useless too.
toddmp said:
I have never had my GPS locate me via google maps. My Phone has no issues. Anyone else have GPS issues? any tips? Hopefully a software update fixes it? I have a friend who has the same issue.
[Should have read "awful", not aweful]
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Gps works fine on mine....unlike my icons or Samsung...both returned
gps does use wifi to help gps locate, theres options to turn this off in settings, i went to pick up my dock today and couldn't get a gps lock while in the car with the transformer in my lap(gps status app showed 3 sats but none would lock) just lifting it up 12 inches closer to the windshield made 7 satellites pop up and instantly started getting locks
i think proximity to a window/line of sky is a big factor, and the transformer does have a true gps chip for those who seem to doubt it, also the navigation app keeps running in the background, its better to use that than google maps
No issues with gps here. The bastard finds me every time!
jadesse said:
However if the GPS relies on a wifi signal in order to obtain a lock then it is about useless too.
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It doesn't rely on WiFi for a lock, it just uses it to allow a faster connection if you don't already have current ephemeris data downloaded. That's a limitation of all GPS receivers -- it takes a fair while to download the ephemeris data if you're out of date or have travelled a significant distance, and without it the device can't get a GPS fix.
You can think of the WiFi location system as analogous to a cellphone being able to use tower locations to help position itself while waiting for GPS ephemeris data.

GPS Issues - can't get location, but GPS Status finds and fixes many satellites?!

No clue whats goin on...
I wanna use GPS and it keeps searching for ages without getting a fix.
So I ran GPS Status app and it shows many satellites - at one point I had fix to 8 or 9 Satellites?!
3 or 4 should be enough for a location, I don't understand why the GPS keeps searching without getting a fix when I already discovered 8 satellites?
Anyone have an idea?
My system is heavily modded (debloated hardcore) but I'm pretty sure thats not the real reason. Using xprivacy and afwall (but allowing the Android System and the apps I want to be able to use GPS the location and also internet access...) - this setup worked fine in the past on my N7000 without any gps problems. (even removed the NetworkLocation.apk since I dont want to use network location anyway and its not necessary for gps either - tested that already on my old N7000)
Satellites are found, but no location?! Really weird....
zroice said:
No clue whats goin on...
I wanna use GPS and it keeps searching for ages without getting a fix.
So I ran GPS Status app and it shows many satellites - at one point I had fix to 8 or 9 Satellites?!
3 or 4 should be enough for a location, I don't understand why the GPS keeps searching without getting a fix when I already discovered 8 satellites?
Anyone have an idea?
My system is heavily modded (debloated hardcore) but I'm pretty sure thats not the real reason. Using xprivacy and afwall (but allowing the Android System and the apps I want to be able to use GPS the location and also internet access...) - this setup worked fine in the past on my N7000 without any gps problems. (even removed the NetworkLocation.apk since I dont want to use network location anyway and its not necessary for gps either - tested that already on my old N7000)
Satellites are found, but no location?! Really weird....
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I think I have posted a similar story with my tests just today in another thread - does it make any difference if you have your mobile (cellular) data started (and WiFi off)?
I suspect there is somewhere a more extensive configuration for the GPS circuit (maybe including something about whether to use Assisted GPS or not), but for the moment I did not have enough time to look for more details on this

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