regarding ji6 battery drain issues, response from t-mobile - Vibrant General

i have had the battery drain issue on 2 devices and with 2 batteries since updating (via odin) to ji6 that some other people have been having. today i called t-mobile to inform them; i wasn't necessarily seeking a (second) replacement vibrant, but more just letting them know customers were aware of it. what a mess this turned out to be.
first t-mobile didn't want to acknowledge it. the more questions they asked the more i had to circumnavigate mentioning i rooted it. i eventually said i updated my replacement device via mini kies, as this was an official release for the vibrant. t-mobile then began stating that voided my warranty and to call samsung. samsung stated it did NOT void my warranty and to call t-mobile back.
called t-mobile back and they passed me off several times then i got put on hold forever while the android support guy hunted down an answer (probably finding a supervisor), came back and asked more questions, put me back on hold. finally they admitted to it not voiding my warranty. they offered to send out another replacement device, which i reluctantly agreed to. they also said they wouldn't consider giving me an alternate device until the 3rd exchange. fyi.

It doesn't make sense to exchange the phone again Cox it is not the phone problem (probably)

We all know its the JI6 Modem. Flash the JI2 modem and you would be a lot better off or using another kernel.

i went like 30+ hours my last charging cycle

I have absolutetly no Drain issues with JI6
I have owned the Vibrant basically since its release, and JI6 has been nothing but a great improvement for me. No strange battery drain issues some people claim.
My signal is stronger and my batter life is the same as before.

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We all know its the JI6 Modem. Flash the JI2 modem and you would be a lot better off or using another kernel.
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there are several threads that identified a couple drm services perpetually running even after installing mediahub. i have since followed those instructions and disabled them and seem to have a big improvement in battery life.

Yeah, I run autostarts and removed mediahub and the drm services and my battery seems very good. Have you done this? Have you recalibrated? The phone and update are fine man.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808181&highlight=hotmail+push

i dont use exchange but so far disabling those aforementioned services seems to have done the trick.

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When will T-mobile release OTA

I got my HD2 last friday and i love it thus far, but i cant help be bothered by problems that just started monday. Such as it drops from 3G-E-G and goes back when i'm in the same position. Today the phone froze on, Message lag and every time i turn my phone from sleep i get this message.
"Cannot connect for a unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed tap settings. If the problem continues reset your mobile device according to your manufactures documentation and try again"
Even when it has full bars. I know a lot of these problems are software related and not hardware I would return the phone but i bought it new from ebay so i cant. Starting to regret this should of gone for the Nexus One.
Since you just got the phone last Friday, did you do much research on this phone? If you had, you would have read on the T-Mo HD2 forums and on here that there have been issues with the phone.
Research would also have suggested to you that the good number of the issues of lagging, freezing, and just plain weirdness on the phone can be attributed to the HTC/Sense Messaging app on the phone. What a number of owners have done is to disable this messaging app and to start using the standard WinMo messaging app. I've had my phone since release day and can say that with the HTC/Sense Messaging, I experienced the weirdness. Since flashing to a cooked ROM and disabling this, I have not experienced any of it at all.
Having said all that, it sounds like you're already frustrated with this and are having second thoughts. But you're in luck since the remorse period for you has not expired. So, I wholeheartedly recommend that you return the phone and get the Nexus One to avoid any future frustration with the phone.
I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?
KidTech said:
I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?
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In that case, I suggest finding out from those people without issues why they don't have them and trying them on your phone. As for no remorse period, my bad.
And as for when T-Mo and HTC will release fixes? Perhaps we can ask our friends in the UK how long it's taken HTC to fix their issues. It sounds like they still have them even though they got the phone months ahead of us, so I'm not too hopeful.
KidTech said:
I did do research, also some people have stated their aren't issues. Also i got this phone through EBAY so no remorse period. I like it, i'm just wondering when will Tmobile/HTC release an update that fix all these problems?
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I wouldn't be surprised is there are no more official updates released, as the phone is over 6 months old already. I suggest doing some reading and try to work out the problems yourself. It's a great and very versatile phone with tons of options and potential if you learn how to use WinMo and work out any kinks or problems you come across. There are tons of resources and people to help on this forum. Are you familiar with Windows Mobile, or is this your 1st Windows phone?
Well i hope they do. I do like the phone a lot love the big screen. I did have WM phone it was the Dash but i didnt do much to it..

My 1st gen Vibrant, advice

Hello,
I really love the screen on this phone, the hardware capabilities (720p rec, etc.) and although newer and better processors in phones are coming out I like this 1 enough to hold me over for a long time.
so here is my issue:
I purchased my vibrant about 2 weeks after came out, and the biggest problem I faced initially was the problem with the gps. At this point I have not even use gps is the first month I bought it, instead I just use google maps in follow the directions it gives me.
Since that time, I have rooted my phone. I was really happy to get the first update that was rolled out, even though it was rooted. I have heard of all the difference solutions to fix the gps but is it really worth the effort to practically void my warranty even further than rooting it by opening it up and trying to solder whatever antenna is in there.
Now I know my phone is covered under samsung warranty. I should also mention the other big problem I have with it is the battery life. If I can fix these 2 issues I would love the phone forever.
here's my question:
is it feasible and worth the effort to get my phone returned back to samsung so that the battery and gps are of the newest generation?
does anyone have experience doing this and how willing is samsung to work with me?
Finally if I do end up getting a replacement then I know I will have to un root my phone before I send it to samsung. I'm not stupid but I just haven't flashed any roms before. if I did get my phone back to stock settings, then would I lose all of the applications and I paid for and all the customization I have done to the phone (contacts, accounts, data)?
also just curious but I haven't received the 2.2 over the air update yet am I even going to get it since my phone is rooted? I figure I may as well try 2.2 before I actually send in the phone.
I know these are a lot of questions but I really like this phone and I want to get it to work.
thank you and I appreciate any suggestions or advice for me.
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New and old Vibrants alike have GPS problem.
I don't have an answer to all your questions, but what I can tell you is that you should not wait for your phone to update to 2.2 because it is an over-the-air update.
Follow these instructions if you want to update your phone:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsu...-upgrade-to-Android-2-2-Froyo-now/td-p/678871
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
if I unroot and go back to stock is it going to erase my applications and contacts, and settings?
I bought it online so I would have to send it back to letstalk.com, I'll have to check out the return policy.
thanks for the replies.
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You will not lose your paid apps, they are tied to your google account. Use titanium backup before you unroot your phone to backup all your data, including app data. When you get your new phone, you will have to reroot and then you can restore everything from titanium.
You can try to get a warrantly replacement from Samsung rather than using letstalk, I think it's a pain to exchange with them, but I'm not sure.
As said above, Titanium backup will handle it. I have my phone from someone on this board, so I had to go directly with Samsung. Once I could get the tech support person to understand the phone just didn't work it was easier. Don't know how that would go with the GPS. Mine was for the phone not working as a phone, ie, no connection to the network.
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As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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I find that to be incorrect. My Vibrant has a 11.01 (2011 January) build date on it and the gps is horrible. I've tried every rom, but I do notice the gps being a little more better with certain roms.
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Here is my story:
I phone up t-mobile and say my GPS doesn't work. They made me go through a four day dance trying stuff, but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
They then replaced it with a brand new phone.
And they charged me $10 shipping & handling for the new phone.
Before the phone never could reliably get and hold on to a GPS lock; afterwards it locks in seconds and never drops.
Hmm, threads I had seen were saying it was better. I have an older one that I just fixed myself. I was hoping they'd gotten their act together and fixed their antenna construction. Its such a simple thing to fix, you'd think they'd do it at the plant.
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zharptitza said:
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.
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False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.
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Yeah, I think I've got to agree on this one.
In the gps case, I really think it is really a hit or miss issue. My gps works pretty decently but my hubby's doesn't work at all. Even when we were both stock, I could lock on some birds but his was never able to. On top of that, when I flashed Nero onto my phone, my gps got even better. Granted, I don't think it would ever see a thing if it was working on standalone; but with wireless networks on, this thing would (and has) pinpoint(ed) me on a moving train accurately.
Aside from firmwares (now), the only difference between them was the build dates: his - 07/10, mine - 09/10.

[Q] DK28 - phone useless.

I've had DK28 installed or over a month now and used various different roms, but about two weeks ago, data ( and consequently voice and messaging) all dropped and refused to work. I've heard of several other people having this problem as well, but am surprised that more people haven't experienced this. Once data drops, rebooting, reflashing, and re-odining all refuse to restore service reliably. My only solution I've found is to re-odin to DI18. It's quite a step back however, I'm curious if people have found ways around this or it only affects certain phones..
two words, truly epic
Never had what you are talking about. I was on bonsai rom and now I'm on a new test build rom and I don't have that problem. Try bonsai rom its awesome.
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Did you Odin to DI18 between each DK28 flash??? Just sayin, if you loaded DK28 once, and just switched roms, even wiping etc.... that could be a problem. Sorry if you did, but just checking, you didn't type out your whole process... if you do, someone may see the common denominator, etc.... 2.2 works fine for me, other than a couple minor bugs that have been traced to kernel issues... so hopefully source will fix them.
Actually, tried Bonsai rom too, but problem persisted. I'm pretty sure it's a modem issue. You can tell it's happening, because you can see that there will be a certain amount of signal (2 bars, 4 bars, 5 bars) but no data service (indicator is also missing). Calls fail to connect, messages fail to send, and of course, data is non-existent.
I've never had a problem with DK28 and I strongly suspect that if you have, it's due to a PEBCAK error.
It's not a PEBCAK error. It's been experienced and documented by several other users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922428&highlight=dk28+modem+zip
I've tried about a dozen different things, but the lowest common denominator is that I've wiped my phone and used odin to restore to the stock DK28 leak to no avail. A consensus seems to form that my phone may just be moody. I've already begun steps to exchange it, although I'm far past the 30 day window...
Have you tried flashing back to the stock modem and rom, then reflashing to DK28? Instead of just flashing the DK28 modem again.
Bye bye as this is a troll thread...
Its not a troll thread.
I'm going through this right now.
Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my no-phone for a few weeks as I have no computer here >:|
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I've been using google voice to text over wifi.
VoIP would be a great feature.
The longer I have the epic, the better T-mobile is looking
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I had similar glitches with DK28, but they were usually resolved by rebooting the phone or turning data off/on. The last straw for me was when my daughter tried contacting me for and emergency. She was unable to get a hold of me because my phone and data had literally stopped working without warning. After rebooting the phone, I had nearly 20 voice mail messages from her and others throughout the day. The next day I want back to 2.1.
Since, I have replaced the Epic with an EVO. The epic is still in my desk drawer waiting for the day Samsung gets their heads out of their asses and update it.
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I've had DK28 installed or over a month now and used various different roms, but about two weeks ago, data ( and consequently voice and messaging) all dropped and refused to work. I've heard of several other people having this problem as well, but am surprised that more people haven't experienced this. Once data drops, rebooting, reflashing, and re-odining all refuse to restore service reliably. My only solution I've found is to re-odin to DI18. It's quite a step back however, I'm curious if people have found ways around this or it only affects certain phones..
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TRY THIS IT RESETS EVERYTHING IT WORKED FOR ME EVEN GOT FASTER INTERNET CONNECTION WITH 3G-4G CUZ DK28 SLOW IT DOWN AS WELL AS GPS NOT WORKING NOW IM GOOOOOD.
xda-developers > Samsung Epic 4G > Epic 4G General
easiest way to fix gps using DK28
DK28 is fine
I'm a Vibrant owner who has been setting up my gf's Samsung Epic. Immediately rooted that beast and put TrulyEpic on it. That ROM was killing her battery life in less than half a day so I switched her to the Bansai ROM and it's the same deal. Is this standard for Epic users?
Leave your girls epic on stock di18.
Not worth putting dk28 on someones phone if they can't do it themselves. There's just too many bugs, no matter which froyo rom you run
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Leave your girls epic on stock di18.
Not worth putting dk28 on someones phone if they can't do it themselves. There's just too many bugs, no matter which froyo rom you run
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No ****? All right, thanks man.
People think that since this problem hasn't occurred for them it must not exist. It's obviously an issue for some of us. As for remedies, I've tried, cycling data, airplane mode. All no good. The funny part is it'll pop - and work for a few hours- then go back to being an expensive mp3 player. I've even odin-ed to DI18, problem still persists. Take the phone back, give sprint hell. And while you're giving them hell, ask them where the hell our Froyo update is.
Dk28 is very buggy. Load a custom rom over it like nebula, bonsai, or truly epic. They fix almost all of the bugs and they are faster than stock
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If this happens on DI18 as well, obviously its hardware... back to sprint... hopefully youre investing in TEP. If it is just DK28, try that GPS fix, may sound like not related, but it is just doing it the meticulous long way, which in the long run works great. I have never had a real data issue, but GPS I never got better than 10 meters or whatever, did that method, locked in 3 secs to 2 meters... crazy. I think not all the pit, modem, etc files are created equal... you may lose something in DL from some crappy free file hosting site, your flash may miss one little thing because the Samsung Drivers are crap... Theres so many variables. But the majority of people don't have any of these issues... so either you have software issues, and need to go back to stock, then it works fine... or if not, Do a tried and true method to get to DK28, and then see if it happens again. Data dropping could be so many things... location, how settings are tweaked... did you try the 'want better 4g signal' thread? It also links to a 3g fix that I think was also found to help on the EVO... just sayin... theres fixes out there, this is a totally unfinished build, what the devs have done with it is amazing.
That said, unless you want to be designated tech guy, keep her on stock. Unless she absolutely needs Flash, or wants to have 500 apps on her phone... she will probably not miss out on much, its power users and those who bought docks and HDMI cables that are really getting the shaft.

Froyo OTA Update has screwed up my Fascinate

Headache after headache after headache since I got the Froyo OTA.
Lots of freezes causing me to pull the battery several times a day. Also the battery power drains so quick I can't even come up with a comparison. Then don't get me started the 3G going down all the time...this is f***ing ridiculous. I did root it but I have seen no change. I have even disabled the bloatware...anyone have any suggestions for me.
Much thanks in advance,
Doc
You can try odining back to DL09 or whatever, re-update OTA, and see if the problem happens again...
If not, I would just leave it stock and return it to verizon with the 1 year warranty
Ive had the same issue! I rerooted and flashed evil fascination and I am not having hardly any problems. Ive had a few forcecloses but nothing like what came with stock froyo
My girlfriend is having the same issue after i MADE her update to the OTA 2.2. Text messages dont get sent and it is very laggy. The whole phone is too slow to use so i plan on flashing a custom rom or going back to 2.1 with odin. What roms are pretty similar to stock that maintain that whole touchwiz feel?
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Did you perform a factory reset? That seemed to fix a few problems.
For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I am currently running the ota 2.2 froyo update...only thing I have done is root and debloat and the phone is very fast! Only issue I have is google voice search force closes.
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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Download the app "gps booster". Seem to fix my gps issue... locks in quick and within 10ft. As far as the signal issue, I had the same thing until I replaced the stock battery cover. have yet to drop any calls and my 3g is alot better now! I am absolutely impressed with this phone since doing these little "tweaks"! O and I vote droid charge if your dead set on a replacement! Seems to have better battery and display over the other two.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I heard that! My girl is hesitant to let me do anything to her phone after she saw the learning curve i went through with my captivate haha
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I stated nothing about the the OP's 3G outtage, any of us who are techy-like at all or who pay attention know what that was about. I was referring to their other issues. And I agree, MANY people have great performance after updating to stock 2.2, while many others are also getting screwed up. It's just one of those things. The OP wasn't one of the lucky, so, either Odin back and try the update again, or go custom ROM.
Well I have a couple DInc2s coming next week.
Really have to send the love to all the Devs who have made the Fascinate fascinating. Just can't wait on Sammy and VZW to get the tools in the hands of the devs to make the most of these phones.
Almost went TBolt but don't want to extend the contract until there are more 4g phones out there.
Wife is excited about FFC so happy wife will be good for me
Would have preferred to stick with the Fascinate but a couple replacements later and even the great roms and kernels couldn't get it to where it should be. Here's hoping that good source drips for everyone soon.
So for free and no contract extension I'll check out HTC...
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I did OTA Froyo update on a stock fascinate and my battery also began draining rapidly, about 8-10 hour life in standby I finally figured out that it was the built in facebook sync that was doing it, I had earlier turned off all syncing then noticed fb synced new events to my calendar after that so I completely removed my fb account and now its back to the ~2days of battery life with light use I had with 2.1. Not sure if this is what everyone else is experiencing with battery life problems but its worth a shot. I haven't tried putting my fb account back up to see if it happens again, I'm going to wait until I get around to rooting to do that.
I swear I had these issues with 3g data out completely. This fixed it in 3 minutes. ESN Swap to repartition data. No BS need for another phone.
http://totalhack.ws/esnswap.html
Hope this helps.
Well... Been using the DInc2 for over a day now... Short time but very evident that there is a major issue post update on the Fascinate. Right back to the great download and upload speeds I had pre ed01. No ATT like dropped calls, etc.
Without voodoo quadrant scores on stock in the 1400 - 1600 range consistently.
Just a huge thanks to all our awesome Fascinate developersfor making it a great phone while I had it.
Hope the DInc2 developers are as committed and talented as this team. Right now they are working on getting perma root....
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[Q] Update on Furious at AT&T- NOT A RANT

Long story short; I sent the phone to a former NTSB investigator who confirmed what I already knew. Thermal damage.
The refurbished phone that they sent as a replacement was FULL of issues, so I had to have it replaced, as well. The camera would not focus, the sound recorder only recorded static, it wouldn't retain my preferences that I set in the phone, and randomly reverted to the default ringtone.
When I called back to get it replaced; I was greeted by a VERY friendly, helpful, and understanding representative who told me that the original claim WAS NOT handled properly. She overnighted a new phone and battery and asked me to return the original phone to a different address for examination. She agreed that they would probably just take one look at it and claim that it was physical damage. She reversed the charges for the replacement - even though I had the "Premium" insurance on it. She also noted that I had a written report with photos to verify that it was a manufacturing defect - with the obvious caveat that if there really was physical damage that I would have to pay the deductible. Naturally; I used my Sony video microscope to take photos of every angle of the phone, the edges, etc. - to prove that there wasn't so much as a single blemish anywhere on the phone that they could construe as being "physical damage" - aside from the obvious darkening to the inner plastic from the internal heat, and it was isolated to the rear of the display.
I got back in town early yesterday and the newest replacement was already waiting. I charged the battery and fired it up. So far; so good. Works like a champ. Bear in mind, it's been less than 24 hours...
Oddly; I didn't start having issues until AT&T forcefully crammed the firmware update down my throat. And, no; I had done no modifications - such as rooting or work-arounds to either phone. So; I actually have a legitimate question: Have any of you experienced any phantom issues with your S4's, post firmware (FM3, I think) update? I know that it gave me a message: "Updating Camera Firmware", and the camera would no longer focus. I took copious photos and videos with it and have saved them for reference. In the videos; you can see that the camera is constantly zooming in and out of focus - even though it was stationary, aimed at a fixed subject, and at a very reasonable distance. Many of my downloaded programs also no longer worked, or would freeze up for no apparent reason. They all had worked perfectly prior to the update, as well as on my previous Motorola Atrix HD. They still are working perfectly on the Atrix HD that I passed down to my kids, after I unlocked it, rooted it, and installed the Pac-Man 4.3 ROM. When I got the first replacement S4; it kept prompting me to download the firmware update, and I kept denying permission - in the event that I felt frisky enough to do some fancy footwork on it later down the road. One morning I woke up and it had a message on the screen: "Software Update Successful!" After I angrily cleared that screen, it gave me the message about updating my camera firmware. Now; I'd only had it a day or so, so I can't verify that everything was working properly before - it just seemed to be OK.
My next question is: Is there any way to block them from updating this phone, and constantly bombarding me and forcing me to install useless "bloatware" that I'll never use and only uses up more of my internal memory. I have the 32GB S4 so it's not a huge issue, but it's obnoxious, at the very least that they think that they know better than I do what I want to be installed on my phone. I can hide them, uninstall the updates and put them out of sight, but they're there, none the less, and I don't want them! Yeah; I know I agreed to their terms, but that just seems downright controlling and unfair. And, by the way; even if I do hide them, and uninstall the updates; they magically reappear in a few days and it seems like I'm constantly receiving messages prompting me to update them. Even if I decline; they download anyway. Sort of a "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" scenario.
OK; after my last nasty rant, I expect (and deserve) some nasty feedback, but I'd really appreciate any suggestions or insight to these issues. Any similar experiences? I'd been foaming at the mouth waiting to get this phone, but it seems like it's been one terrific headache after another. I've only owned Motorola phones (since 1985) until now. Motorola now seems lackluster compared to the newer models or I'd have never jumped ship. Now; it seems like I made a $700.00 mistake. I really hope I'm wrong and just unfamiliar with other manufacturers equipment. Save me from myself!
Thanks, everyone!
Nukesnooper
The Samsung updates are kind of like the old "Window Updates needs to restart, postpone for X hours." But if you leave it there, then it will reboot by itself. Kind of like this updated by itself. The only way to avoid updates is rooting the phone and freezing or deleting that service, or of course, changing ROMs. (But I believe you're on MF3 firmware now so..)
Other than that, can't say much as I have the T-Mobile variant.
If you have MDB or MDL firmware do this. It will stop AT&T updates. I would freeze anything that even looks like a Samsung updater also.
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Thanks!
~wolverine~ said:
If you have MDB or MDL firmware do this. It will stop AT&T updates. I would freeze anything that even looks like a Samsung updater also.
Link Here
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I guess the next obvious question is: "How?" I don't want to root the phone yet, but didn't think you could freeze any of their apps without rooting or modifying the stock firmware. I'm afraid to do any mods to it until I know it's going to be a stable device - and hence; not taking any chance of voiding my warranty. Sorry for what's probably a dumb question, but I'm new to modifying phones.
Also; what is the best way to sterilize the phone that I'm returning of contacts, remnants of uninstalled programs, etc?
Added: It already has the MF3 update installed. Grrr!
Thanks again!
NS
nukesnooper said:
Also; what is the best way to sterilize the phone that I'm returning of contacts, remnants of uninstalled programs, etc?
Added: It already has the MF3 update installed. Grrr!
Thanks again!
NS
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A factory reset from settings/accounts/backup & restore will wipe out all that. I would think it would be safe to do that with MF3, but I'm no expert. You might want to get other opinions also.
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~wolverine~ said:
A factory reset from settings/accounts/backup & restore will wipe out all that. I would think it would be safe to do that with MF3, but I'm no expert. You might want to get other opinions also.
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Great until I went to confirm that I was going to delete everything in my brain and give them a pint of virgin blood; then it asked for a "New Password" and wouldn't give me anything but a numeric keypad. Huh??? Sup wid dat? It wouldn't delete ANYTHING until I confirmed my "password" which isn't numeric at all, but gave me no other options. I'm going to try booting it up from "off" and see if there's a way to do it from there. FEAR.

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