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[Q]HD2 Droid vs Nexus One?

Dilemma -- I have someone that wants to buy my Stock HD2 without Android for $350 (us dollars) so that I can purchase the N1.
What you guys suggest? Keep my HD2 w/ Android which is overclocked and working flawless w/ Android or sell it and get the Nexus One root it, Froyo 2.2, etc?
PS,
I know its not available online, I know a few private sellers that N1's for sell.

what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this

thatruth132 said:
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum

thread... i dont know how to tell you this.... i think you have until 18:00GMT to live... im sorry
btw hd2, n1 is butt ugly

Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.

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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
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thread rules state develoment only , if it was me i would be asking members in the market area...

another useless thread...but to answer your question, HD2 will eventually get NAND soon, seeing as the HTC Kaiser already has android NAND. After the HD2 gets NAND it will be better than the nexus one, wiping out windows mobile all together and running flawlessly from boot.

thanks, closed!

wait a bit for android ROM and u will get the answer

i had the n1. i did not like the build quality and wasnt really feeling the design. the material used for the display felt kind of thin. like the g1 screen. in my opinion and experience with the two, the hd2's build quality and design are far more superior than the nexus one.
i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems. with the hd2 running android and just about stable, i'd choose the hd2 over a nexus one. i dont know if you have had any other android phone, but with custom rom's you will also run into problems once in a while. when i had the nexus one and running some custom roms, i would get random reboots and freezes(depending on who's rom), same as some people running android on their hd2. so dont think just because you are getting a device that originally came with android it will run 100% stable when running custom roms.

melcali said:
i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems.
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I would choose my HD2 over the N1 =)

Can the Nexus One run windows? Does the Nexus One have a 4.3 inch screen? HD2 FTW!

Just to clarify, its HD2 ANDROID.
Droid is a whole other phone.

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DeekoVB5 said:
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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I bought a spanking new Desire off Amazon and after putting Shubcraft on my HD2 promply sold the Desire. To get the Desire running the way I wanted it too would have taken the same amount of work to get my HD2 going. More than happy with HD2 now. Plus the phone has proved to be a real head turner out in public as various fanboyz from other platforms as well as Android want to know what the hell it is.

I like both phones but prefer the bigger screen of the HD2.
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Although i love my HD2 and use it more than my nexus one, i cant see myself getting rid of the nexus one until I have a G2. So to answer your question, until nand becomes a reality, the best android phone is a pure android phone.

I just came from the my touch slide and know a lot of developers that traded their nexus one for HD2.I'm looking forward to seeing awesome things on this phone from them. Being patient is going to be difficult but well worth it.

DeekoVB5 said:
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...

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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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you are right , there is no hardware designed for certain os exept the buttons , my hd2 with mattc builds runs smoother than my friend's htc desire in some tasks , may be the developers here made better drivers than HTC , add on that that we have real multitouch that doesnot exist in allot of htc android phones including (desire and nexus ) and now we only 4 steps far from fully android Hd2
1. light sensor
2. improve g sensor drivers
3. compass calibration
4.in call volume increase
and these are not big issues

I was also thinking trading HD2 for a Nexus, but can't get rid of 4.3" screen, so I decided to stick with the mighty HD2

HD2 or Desire

Hi Guys I have been a winmo user for a while and then i moved to android with xperia x10. however i am thinking of changing my toy and unable to decide between 2 HD2 and desire.
for me i felt both OS as same for my usage in fact i liked winmo for exchange support more.
so if you guys have to make a choice which one would you like to go for.
Waiting for your honest advise.

HD2 is best looking phone IMO, problem is, WM is running. I chose a Desire because of that, not the same looks, but same specs + Android.
Aka, Desire if i had to pick.

i played arround with android on my hd2 and now i wish i had a desire... android seems more like what win mobile should have been... althogh android is so young... android is much more smoother and the integration with google, gmail, social networks is much better than win mo... on top of that the market has much more options that win mo...
AFAIK froyo supports exchange server...

my bad...i posted a Q earlier that is HD2 the best option, and i was suggested that HD2 is indeed the best option as compared to any phone including Desire...
desire has a plastic body...so that is something i wouldnt like much...and above all HD2 has the best display

xprav said:
HD2 is indeed the best option as compared to any phone including Desire...
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You forget the main thing, it runs Windows...

etix said:
You forget the main thing, it runs Windows...
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At it runs beautiful!

again for me this is a no brainer just buy the hd2 and if you want run the desire android build.
that way you can have both in one handset with a bigger screen.

so seems that everyone suggest that I should go with Android ?
so now if i flash a android ROM on HD2 will it be as good as Desire since desire was made for Android.
Also do we have a stable Android ROM for HD2 ?
Please help guys i got to buy it in 2 to 3 days
Regards
sandeep

sandeeppathak007 said:
so seems that everyone suggest that I should go with Android ?
so now if i flash a android ROM on HD2 will it be as good as Desire since desire was made for Android.
Also do we have a stable Android ROM for HD2 ?
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IMO the Hd2 is much better than any android device out there currently.
The Hd2 is NOT a capable Android device. I had a Nexus One that I sold to get the Hd2 off of craigslist for cheap thinking I could run both. Only problem with that is the fact that your running an entire operating system off of the SD card on a phone not designed to run it at all.
People that have never used Android will say it runs fine on the Hd2, but I had the Nexus One for 6 months and I can really feel the slowdown and battery issues.
I would recommend the Hd2 to anyone I know but NOT if you need to have Android. I like WM 6.x much better on my Hd2 over Android...
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Please help guys i got to buy it in 2 to 3 days
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Cmon man don't act like a little girl about this decision. If you want the Hd2 then go for it but dont try to act like we are really going to be the determining factor that makes the decision by rushing us. Yeah we might tell you something you like but have a pair and make a good decision yourself

i dont know why but the desire feels like a girls phone
my choice would be hd2 WinMo is way better than android to me...only boot android occasionally to play some games or use some apps that are missing in Winmo its a win win situation

[Q] What will happen when android is 100% functional with htc hd2 ??

will a custom ROM have android instead of WM6.5 ?? i mean it will direct boot to android or we still have to open android from WM6.5 ??

at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong

oh ok when it will be 100% functional with everything working it could be flashed to nand without the WM ?

why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?

...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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PhoneConnect247 said:
...the world as we know it...will come to an end... lol well what's most likely to happen is people wanting to get windows phone 7 on the phone.
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loooooool i saw the title and was about to write the exact same thing ...
what would happen ..... it will run 100% no more no less , alltho i doubt that will ever happen cuz it occasionally has bad days on nexus too , like all the OS-es

bbezja1 said:
at the moment you run android as an application in windows mobile.
other way is to flash andoid to nand like we now flash our windows mobile roms.
as far as i know there is not enough room to flash both OSes to nand. <- pls correct me if im wrong
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i think thats wrong. android is NOT an app running in windows mobile. this would mean android is runnning as some kind of emulation. as far as i know, winmo is still needed in order to initialize the hardware. by starting haret.exe, the wince-kernel is shut down and a linux bootloader is started.

hopefully we'll be able to flash an android rom to nand and have a device which can hold either OS equally. I personally like the fact that the HD2 can become versatile. I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device. I wanted to have a taste of android with the ability to run WM as i have for the past 4 years.

nir36 said:
I agree - that if someone wants to run android only, he should buy an Android device.
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but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?

hebbe said:
but if someone wants to run android on such a beautiful piece of hardware like our hd2? have you ever seen a good looking android device (i mean the physical device itself, not the ui)?
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I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.

hazard99 said:
I bought the device with the intent on running android. I am not help bent on completely removing it
There hasnt been a device until the evo 4g that had the same screen size. And since i dont hop carriers I cant use the evo.
The my touch 3g slide screen is too small
The my touch screen is too small
The samsung galaxy screen is too small
The g1 screen is too small.
The samsung behold 2 sucked !
THe cliq sucked
The nexus 1 screen is too small
So people do have reasons to have the hd2.
Plus a lot of people I have met with the hd2 didnt realize what they were buying. Most people hate the phone. They then see mine with android and fall in love.
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screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )

D4rkSoRRoW said:
screen problem will get fix'd with the desire hd ^.^
but running android on the hd2 like it is native would be just awsome.. thats true for sure )
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Can't wait
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Can some one answer this question. What windows mobile 6.5 do, that android can't do? This is my first WM phone and I tho it was alright. I would of got the Evo but I can't switch carriers until the end of the year. Since now we got android, I'm staying with t-mo. I pay full price for this phone ($560.00 in NYC) I first regretted and since android I don't. Anyways I found that android do much more for me than WM. So if I'm wrong please some one tell me. Ps: excuse my english.
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For me, I would consider the NAND flash for Android ROM the 100% fully functional since that is of primary importance to me here.

I bought my HD2 even though I knew it had WM. And at the time I didn't want Android at all, just my WM, but with some configurations & such.
But now that I have Android running on it instead, I never want to go back.
And just like someone else said, there ain't an Android phone around that have the same hardware specs as the HD2. Except the EVO, but I've had my phone a long time before they released the EVO. And from what I know it's only available in the US. Maybe I could import one and configure it to run on Swedish networks, but wth..

The wife and I got this phone and she didn't realize it was Windows Mobile. This was my first experience with Sense UI and thought it was awesome.
I loved the phone for what it could do and actually "Used" it to it's potential. She "HATES" it. Then again, I don't blame her. Sense fails hard when it comes to texting and load lag
She can't wait till I can flash Android to her phone. Me, i'll stick with my options.

D4rkSoRRoW said:
why did u buy a winmo phone when u want android?
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I don't think people who HATE WinMo buy this phone with the sole intent of putting another OS on it. I think most people bought it for the screen & the media capabilities. For me, I saw a lot of potential in the hardware specs and bought mine cause it's the last real WM phone(I'm sappy like that) and because it's a GSM phone that I can unlock & use for years to come. It was like buying a barebones PC that I could run whatever I want on & have multi-boot systems.
I decided to run Android on it initially out of sheer curiosity, and so I can learn the next OS I'm gonna be using. When WM dies out(it's GOING to happen, so we may as well face it), Android will be what I will move on to partly because its Linux & open source, and partly because there's no way in pus-spewing, blood-gutted hell that I would ever use an iPhone or Blackberry(WP7 has NEVER been an option). I must say, Android runs VERY well on this phone even in its current stage of development, I can't wait to see how awesome it'll be as a fully flashable rom. I'm already almost to the point of not even missing WM anymore. I've been running it for a week now & I'm getting to know how everything works & I love it. Very versatile & powerful, and quite stable. I don't think I quite realized just how many lockups and crashes I was really having with WM until I started using Android as my main OS. The first time I used Android I HATED it because I had a bad build & an underpowered phone(One of the first leaked Froyo builds on a Sprint Hero) and it ran like crap. But with the combo I've got now, it's simply awesome. Everything is so integrated & all the programs mesh together so beautifully. It really does 'just work', and it's hackable & customizable at the same time. Best of both worlds. If & when a NAND version of Android for the HD2 comes out, you can count me in.
Don't get me wrong, I will ALWAYS love WinMo. I think it's the best mobile OS there ever was, and it's incredibly sad that it's dying. It would still be going strong if Microsoft had just marketed it better & hadn't copped out with WP7. But I'm not gonna stay with a stagnant platform that nobody develops for anymore(I'd have stayed with Palm OS otherwise), and I was honestly starting to get bored with it. I had pushed WM to it's limits & did everything I could possibly do with it, and it's just time to move on. I believe Android is the wave of the future, and will eventually overtake the iPhone in popularity.
Plus I love robots, so anything named 'Android' is automatically cool in my book

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Friendly robots are a plus in my book.
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Once android 2.2 is fully working, android gingerbread will be released and people can start working on that. Windows phone 7 is also a possibility. Ubuntu is still under development as well. The possibilities are endless.

Why windows mobile 7 when android so much better?
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WM7 on HD2 possible / Wait a worth ?

Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2

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Hope to see HD2 boot up with WM7 ... Any luck news about this other than http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-shown-on-the-hd2
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we just have to wait and watch...
but there is some surity that WP7 will be port to HD2(yeah, we have nice piece of hardware )
Cotulla and his team already playing with WP7

Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......

i like wp7... im waiting quietly ... android works ok an wm is still an okay os.. so im in no rush
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hd2
I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?

Adivce on what excatly? Android or the HD2 itself?

kevinniven said:
I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?
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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.

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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )

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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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True but my T-Mobile HD2 with android is way better than a Motorola Cliq on 1.5 lol. Yes I know I shouldnt even compare an HD2 to a slow Moto Cliq

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This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).

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Seems like there's a very good chance.... since all the new windows phone 7 uses the same 1st GEN snapdragon.
Which is also quite disappointing actually if you look at it from a different stand point. Pretty sad launch for HTC and Windows to use dated hardware which has been available since last year. You'd think they use newer hardware to really push a launch of the their new OS, which quite frankly is Microsoft's last chance to try and take back to mobile market......
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I can partially agree, but app developers along with the team that worked on this OS certainly need sure specs to be able to develop fragmentation free. Using this slightly older, but still very high end, specifications also allowed the OEMs to make devices with little or no driver development. This strategy is very Apple. This OS will not be 'open' as android or Winmo are. MSFT has alos stated that OTA updates come from them directly, with no red tape from Carriers or OEMs.
Sony's rumored PSP2 is an example. though a few developers have said that they have one, there have been no announcements for any region. these things are years in the making and changing something like the processor may have delayed launch.
Does anyone remember how dated the G1 (dream) looked at it's launch? it didn't even have 3.5mm jack.MSFT is getting this thing out as soon as it can. they don't want to be a Palm, and have devices leak like the pre2 that probably won't even get a date until CES

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I agree with almost all of your points but I can't agree that the Hd2 "won't" be as stable as a true Android phone is when the development has been finalized. Now if you are only speaking about today then "okay, you're right most of the Android builds aren't that stable yet". The Android build that I am using on my HD2 is 100% stable right "Now". As for speed it is faster than 99% of all the current new Android phones out right now. It is speed testing above the Nexus one Android 2.2 which I think almost everyone would agree is pretty fast. The camera being 3 megapixels instead of 5 is the "only" issue it has. The Video camera is actually better on the Android side than it is on Win Mobile side. And my win mobile rom is rock solid.
This next point is very important: The only reason the camera and other issues has not been resolved of yet is because HTC "had" not released the Kernel Source for the Android builds. Just yesterday HTC released the Kernel source of the Desire Z and the G2 which means that the Camera issues and foot print issues on the Desire Z, and Desire HD builds will likely be resolved in the "Very" near future. At which point my Android build which "honestly" is already stable and running faster that the Nexus one android 2.2 will be "Better" than most true Android phones when I choose to use Android.
As to the question that prompted your reply " I was thinking of getting a used HD2 to port android. any advice?". I totally agree with you that If the person asking the question wants a Android phone don't buy the HD2. But if it is choices that is wanted the HD2 is a good option. And it is why I chose to buy an HD2 in spite of the fact that Microsoft said they weren't going to update it to Win 7, which was going to make the 6.5 obsolete, and the available apps compared to the iPhone and the Android Market place are very, very weak. I knew that I would be using the Android Market place apps whenever I wanted to, and in time I would be shopping at the Win phone 7 market as well. Because of Xda developers the HD2 offers it's owners more choices than any other phone right now. And I for one love having choices : - )
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i totally agree with your comments and would like to add just one thing. There is not much android devices on market which has 1 gb rom and 500mb ram yet on the market. So Android on HD2 is still much better then most of the native android devices on the market even tho working on the sdcard yet. Once nand version is released it is gonna be a killer not only being able to run android but also multibootable! If you only gonna stick with android and you are in need of a new phone then only superior HTC android devices like desire HD might be a better choice imao

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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... ).
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Whenever my data drops I just turn off the wireless 3g network, then turn it back on, and that usually resolves the issue.
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I'm using the new hyper droid 1.6.on my hd2 and its daily.don't even touch winmo anymore.battery life its my only complaint.but I like having winmo as a backup. All droid phones have crappy battery.the fact that I can do anything to the droid rom and never worry about my device becoming a brick its great.plus having the option of three OS's (winmo, droid, ubuntu) is better then just having a droid.
Also what is "nand" ? Is it like the computer when you pc your os at boot? Rather then haret?
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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?

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I don't mean to be negative, I am actually really happy with my HD2 using WinMo- but I don't get the WP7 hype. I have watched the youtube videos and the OS looks cramped on the phone. I understand that Sense makes our phones look amazing; but I have heard that MS won't allow any Sense on WP7. The ability to customize my phone and make it look COMPLETELY different than anyone else's is one of the biggest draws to any phone; and from what I can see all the WP7 phones look the same!
Has MS done something completely outside the box with this phone that no one is talking about?
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One could only hope that was the case with WP7 but then again it is microsoft so the chances of it being something outside the box are yet to be seen..

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Which (whose) Android are you using, and are you using on the stock 2.13 TMOUS ROM? I was on Darkstone's Froyosense, but the PPP kept dropping connection on me every 8 or so hours, and a 5-minute reboot made it a pain... so unless I can get an RMNET version or stable PPP release, I'm still not using Android as a daily unit (plus, battery life is still poor, although Nexus port has good battery life, but I get the robotic voice... <sigh>).
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Try this combo... I am running Android as a daily driver... data is speedy (2MB Down / 1 MB Up here in Salt Lake City, UT).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
Use the OzDROID ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774417
Then load the 2.5 update from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802194
You will be thoroughly impressed. It may freeze up during the first boot of Android. Just soft reset it and you'll be good to go. I used heavy 3G data all day and still had 40% battery at the end of the day. The touchscreen is much more responsive than with WM.
Good luck...

I think WP7 will eventually come. Android didn't take long because similar hardware with the same drivers launched and it was relatively easy to port. Windows Phone 7 has models that are basically the same hardware too so it should come quickly.

I'm anxiously awaiting this also! I dont use my HD2 anymore, I have an EVO for my regular phone... I love windows mobile though

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If you want an Android phone, GET AN ANDROID phone. HD2 phone works with Android, but its not 100%, and you still have Winmo 6.5 in the background. It simply does not work as good (stability and speed) as a true Android phone. Im sure that IF WM7 gets ported, the same will be true. Close, but not close enough.
The HD2 is a phone for WM6.5 first, and other OS's second.
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I would not make comments off the cuff without actually knowing the facts. Yes, the HD2 was designed as a device to run WM 6.5 and/or WP7 At that date no one was clear on Microsoft's expectations and a hardware definition had not been made public. A lot of folks believe this was behind T-Mobile upping the Ram and ROM footprint, in the expectation it would be potentially upgradeable to WP7. Then Microsoft shot it down, so HTC has essentially reworked the same hardware with a few tweaks (love the little stereo speakers, not so much the kickstand, which LOOKS cool as hell, but is claimed to be unstable from the rounded base-edge)
That said, the next point is, Windows Mobile does NOT "run in the background" - It is there mostly to initialize the hardware (else we would be in driver hell) and when Haret boots the Android kernel, it first UNLOADS the WM kernel. So no, Android does NOT run on top of WM, as a lot of folks seem to misunderstand.
Finally: Stability and Speed? Okay some builds are just reaching a stable point (remembering that we have only HAD working Android builds for 3 months when they first got it booting properly on 8250 Snapdragon Processor.) and perhaps you have not SEEN the cute little performance graphs, provided bay Quadrant on the builds? (see attached)Even the attached Performance numbers - the SLOWEST I have EVER gotten on my HD2 (Usually see 1500+) blow away the Nexus One running Froyo 2.2, Moto Droid X and Samsung Galaxy S - Three of the hottest Android Phones out there (well, the Nexus is getting a bit long in the tooth)
So, to the guy looking for advice? Lets say that while you CAN run android on it, you WILL have to jump through some technical hoops, and you SHOULD at least have an interest in running WM at least part time, since, as Gibbage pointed out, that was the OS it was originally designed to run.
Oh, and if Windows PHONE 7 gets "ported" (there is no "Port" needed, as the HD7 hardware is almost identical) it will run... well just like it runs on the HD7 (assuming bugs & issues can be worked out)

HD2 VS Desire

What should I buy a HD2 and run Android 2.2 on it or buy a Desire, there practical the same price so i was wondering!
I really like the Android. How's the battery life with android on a HD2? Is it as stable as on a Desire?
thanks

i would go for the hd2,dont know for the desire but hd2 with android 1 day with medium use

HD2 running windows and ANDROID gets my vote..
BUT you've posted this in the wrong forum... this is one is all about specific android builds and kernels!

GET THE DESIRE!!! Why buy HD2 if you want Android only! Save yourself the hassle and get the Desire.

reocej said:
GET THE DESIRE!!! Why buy HD2 if you want Android only! Save yourself the hassle and get the Desire.
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+1.
I own the HD2 but the constant PPP dropouts at the moment for me make it almost unusable for mobile internet, the battery life is great for my casual usage though.
If you want everything working and stable, just go for the Desire.

Desire HD of course...
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Desire HD of course...
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+1 for the HD
Windows is toast now and WP7 seems to do not work as expected.
Go for Android and forget Windows

If u want android only, go with Desire (I think Desire HD would cost more but it's a lot better than the original Desire)
If u like having a classic version of windows mobile (WinMo 6.5.x) with Android in the same phone, then go with HD2 and be ready to read a lot of threads on how to flash the right ROMS in order to run Android in a good shape)

ForceField said:
Windows is toast now and WP7 seems to do not work as expected.
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I expected WP7 not to work....

I like the Sense UI but I don't like the "over-red" screen of desire. I also like big screen. so, my only choice is only HD2+android now.

Mate get the Desire or the Desire HD.

for me is HD2 not because of android but because of the screen.
I own both and i prefer HD2 with Android even if it has some minor bugs at the moment.
Most of them are eliminated with NAND.

I have HD2 running Android (Desire HD ROM), my wife just upgraded getting a Desire HD...
After playing with both, I'll be getting a Desire HD - so much more stable and fast as lightning (especially boot up - only a few seconds!)
Hope that helps?
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g30rg10u said:
Most of them are eliminated with NAND.
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Are you running NAND? Didn't think that anyone had released one yet...
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HD2
the hd2 is a superphone, the desire is just android that is locked and restricted. you will most likely end up modding it. so why not get the one with option's? and run multiple versions of android instead of being stuck with 1.... just my opinion

depends on what are u basically... If u r a techie guru or who loves experimenting get a hd2 - why? u can run wm 6.5, android and shortly WP7 and meego - 4 OS
if u r happy with android then get a 3.7 inches 1500mAH Desire..
Else wait for Desire HD or WP7 phones.. but i see ur one of the criterion is price as well... so best is to choose which u think u should be using say 6 mths down the line
Happy buying.. spend judiciously..

HTC Desire HD for sure.why do you want to buy a windows mobile device and struggle every day either to try the android rom modifications(never working 100% and stable) or sit and make an android rom for it.
Also,if you are buying such a highly priced mobile device,why not go with the latest which has the newest and the best features.
The desire HD has a next generation snapdragon processor,768mb RAM,1.5gb ROM,dolby mobile,SRS WOW HD,8mb camera with 720p recording at 30fps.
don't these specifications literally shout at you saying - " WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED !!!!!!!!!!!! "
invest your hard earned money smarty.
Regards,
Karan.

I say HD2. My android hasn't had a PPP drop yet with Phiremod 1.7. (knock on wood)

Um... exactly why are people talking about the Desire HD? Did the OP ask about it? Nope.
Between the Desire and the HD2, definitely the HD2. Nice big screen, nice and thin, and fast. The Android roms are awesome. Anybody who tells you they aren't stable needs to change builds.
Not to mention the fact that people are working on porting MeeGo and WP7.
Anyway, that's my opinion.

WP7 is more like Zune 202 for microsoft. They are going to learn their lesson the hard way...