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Phone capabilities?

I am very interested in the galaxy tab but I am wondering if it makes and receives calls on the carrier networks, namely verizon. I am one of the people who will lug the tablet around as my main phone. I see the phone app on the pictures around the net but I have yet to see it stated anywhere.
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You will be sad to know the for the North American Tab the Phone/ Voice has bin removed from the list of options thats is being shipped from from Samsung. In the press conference today they stated that.

If they kept the microphone, this is Dev worthy.

ConceptVBS said:
If they kept the microphone, this is Dev worthy.
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no joke! i hope someone can get ahold of one of these ASAP and take it apart to see if it has the hardware.

I read somwhere that you just have to have a bluetooth or regular headset.
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I'm hoping this is just a software thing for having the phone feature disabled on the US version of the Tab.

Imagine the looks you would get holding a 7inch tablet to your ear? LOL. Well a wireless headset or a set of earphones is in serious need. Hopefully the devs here can sort something out if the tab has the hardware for it.

it does have 3G voice and data hardware
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab-3370.php
but as you said, yes people will look at you extremely weird face LOL

AllGamer said:
it does have 3G voice and data hardware
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab-3370.php
but as you said, yes people will look at you extremely weird face LOL
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Well that is awesome then, I will go back to the idea of me wanting one again... Ill use my g1 until a modded rom comes out if one isnt out by the time it releases stateside...
I dont plan on holding it to my head during a call even though I might just to be funny..lol.. i barely use my phone (for voice calls) which is why im so concerned with merging it into my tablet because it would be just an app for me... which is the way I like it.

Every review I've read of the US-based versions of the Galaxy Tab (for AT&T/Verizon/Sprint) has said that the Tab will NOT work as a phone.
(sorry, newbie post so I can't post full URL...endgaget has the story)
Skype and other VOIP services work, but not regular EDGE/3G phone calls. Combined with the so-far announced pricing from the major carriers absolutely kills any desire for a Tab vs. either an iPad or a Dell Streak. I'm hopiing that some vendor will make a 7-9" tablet/phone combination in the near future.

That's the American version of the GT. The European and Asian GT DOES HAVE calling/3G functionality.
diskmuncher said:
Every review I've read of the US-based versions of the Galaxy Tab (for AT&T/Verizon/Sprint) has said that the Tab will NOT work as a phone.
(sorry, newbie post so I can't post full URL...endgaget has the story)
Skype and other VOIP services work, but not regular EDGE/3G phone calls. Combined with the so-far announced pricing from the major carriers absolutely kills any desire for a Tab vs. either an iPad or a Dell Streak. I'm hopiing that some vendor will make a 7-9" tablet/phone combination in the near future.
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zyborg said:
That's the American version of the GT. The European and Asian GT DOES HAVE calling/3G functionality.
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So, if I understand this correctly (?) unlike the iPad where it's 3G cannot use voice but only data, the G-Tab Euro version can connect via voice and make calls, but the US version cannot.... Does this mean the US (north American) model lacks the hardware? I am asking because the voice calling is important to me and I have ordered an unlocked US version but maybe I should go for the Euro version?

Euro tab - no 3g in USA but it has voice capability
Has tab - data and sms/mms and no voice capability
Pick your poison muchachos.
I am personally think about the Sprint version with 2gb/m for 399.99 and 29.99/m.

Why wont the Euro version have 3g? The unlocked Euro version from cellhut and Negrielectronics have everything we need. Should just pop in my AT&T SIM and off I go.
negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked
cellhut.com/Samsung-P1000-Galaxy-Tab-Unlocked-Quadband-GSM-Cell-Phone-Reviews-29956

If the tab has 3g radios, wouldn't there be a way to transfer voice over it? Of course some hacking would be needed, but i'm sure there is a way. If not, couldn't one just tether to the tab with a phone and then use that to make calls over a "wifi" signal?

To answer to the two previous posts:
Unless the Tab has the ability to change 3G bands (Like its cousins phones from Samsung line), the European version won't be able to have 3G over AT&T (Maybe T-Mobile if I recall well, not sure). However some other versions may be able to do so (The version from Telstra should have the right radio for instance and hopefully voice calls enabled)
Then... hopefully we may not be limited to VoIP on the US Tabs... I hope Samsung didn't really castrate the Tabs here and limitation is just a Software limitation. Just flashing the right Firmware / ROM could restore this function (But then you'll need a different plan than the one your carrier will let you subscribe)
All in all my plan (and hope) is we'll be able to enable the voice calls on the US versions. I'll buy it with no plan and will switch it with my TP2. If not... Then I'll be looking for a version elsewhere in the world that has the proper 3G bands and voice enabled

dboppc130 said:
Why wont the Euro version have 3g? The unlocked Euro version from cellhut and Negrielectronics have everything we need. Should just pop in my AT&T SIM and off I go.
negrielectronics.com/samsung-p1000-galaxy-tab-3g-850-1900-2100-oem-unlocked
cellhut.com/Samsung-P1000-Galaxy-Tab-Unlocked-Quadband-GSM-Cell-Phone-Reviews-29956
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That's my thought as well. I purchased the HTC HD2 and used it w/o problem on ATT for more than a year even tho ATT never did specifically support it (which meant I could only get Edge speed - but the GT has 1900 UMTS and the full range of ATT voice GSM freq so it should work OK.

i bought the tab in germany and calling even without headset is very good.
the speaker quality is very good. makes it a brilliant conference phone

I seriously hope that the it is just a software lock because buying a the overseas version vs the u.s. Is a huge price difference , looking at the frequencies of tmobile u.s.a will the overseas version work on 3G here even though tmobile is 1700/2100 ?

When I use aDialer I press # and the number I try to call and it cuts off music and for a second a call icon pops up like something is trying to make a call then ends. If I dont hit # first then it doesn't even try to make the call
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Is there a way to compile a new modem.bin from euro and us versions

to get 3g with calls????

should add that
Euro version allows phone calls, but only allows 2G on Tmo.
US version blocks phone calls, but allows 3G/H speeds.
So we need the phone calling from the Euro version and the 3G/H from the US version!

We will know more once the At&t version releases and people start dumping the moden.bin on it. Supposedly it will launch on the 21st.

I am working on this..

US providers got wise on us this time.
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Not for long..

ConceptVBS said:
We will know more once the At&t version releases and people start dumping the moden.bin on it. Supposedly it will launch on the 21st.
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Bell Canada version on the 17th, I'll have one as soon as the nearest store has one for sale that day.

x2beach said:
I am working on this..
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Your the man!!!!

Best GTab version

It looks like the ATT tab is the best bet in the US for getting a GTab that also makes calls, is this right?
Also Ive read conflicting reports, do SMS and MMS work with ATT?
Lastly if I were to buy a ATT GTab, how do i get a voice capable sim card? Or can I just use the one that comes with it?

I agree the AT&T Tab in the USA is the best for changing the ROM and making phone calls. I am pretty sure the SIM that comes with the Tab won't work for voice unless you call AT&T and tell them you want to use it in an Android phone with a voice plan.
Your best bet for a SIM card is one that is currently setup with AT&T for a voice/data plan (i.e. an iPhone or a Android phone). If you can put the SIM in an Android phone and makes calls and browse the web it will work exactly the same with the Tab because the Tab is really a 7 inch Android phone.
In my case I am using the SIM that was in my Apple iPhone 3GS and it's working perfect for both voice and data in the Tab.

I think Verizon Tab may get Honeycomb port the fastest due to the fact that Xoom is launching on VZW first.

Does honeycomb = easy to use as phone?

I'm pretty sure that Samsung's Tab 2 with Honeycomb won't support voice on US carrier's, this is a decision they made irregardless of the O/S. But I'm also sure it won't take long for the dev's here on XDA to release customized ROMs that will allow for voice calling, assuming that some international flavor of Honeycomb supports calling.

It seemed that Alex may have been implying that honeycomb may support google voice better, which is what I was looking for clairification on. While I am typing this, no one mentioned MMS, has anyone gotten MMS working on the ATT GTab?

If you could do it all over again, what carriers Galaxy tablet would you buy

I have the Verizon one, It works well but that lack of development and inability of it to ever make calls has me ready to move on from it and get a GSM version. Im a bit confused as to which one to get. It seems as if the Att one is the way to go but I dont want to make another $500 mistake. So which one woud you get and why?
Please advise

AT&T version is the USA is the most flexiblr and best if you want to flash and customize because it has the same radio as most Euro versions.
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w4, have you done any custom stuff??

The Bell and Rogers Galaxy Tabs are good too since they're the same as the AT&T Tabs.
I have the Bell Tab. No issues at all.

I want to be able to use it as a phone, I see ATT is what is needed but just going in to the ATT store and purchasing a tablet with a month to month plan will I get all I need, after the mods here of course??

Bobby Buggs said:
I want to be able to use it as a phone, I see ATT is what is needed but just going in to the ATT store and purchasing a tablet with a month to month plan will I get all I need, after the mods here of course??
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if you already have an att phone with voice and data, then yes. Just insert your current sim card.

I'd stick with the verizon one because it works everywhere. Good luck getting anything from AT&T to work in the southeast, for example. AT&T is awful where I live and, in fact, when my AT&T contract is up this summer I will most likely ditch them and the AT&T iPhone for Verizon and their iPhone. Which is another reason I'd stick with Verizon...already have a phone and couldn't care less about making voice calls with a tablet, especially when there are so many options that work just fine on the tablet as it is.

markgamber said:
I'd stick with the verizon one because it works everywhere. Good luck getting anything from AT&T to work in the southeast, for example. AT&T is awful where I live and, in fact, when my AT&T contract is up this summer I will most likely ditch them and the AT&T iPhone for Verizon and their iPhone. Which is another reason I'd stick with Verizon...already have a phone and couldn't care less about making voice calls with a tablet, especially when there are so many options that work just fine on the tablet as it is.
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guess it depends on where you live. verizon is **** here, att is fantastic.

There are ways to use the Verizon tab as a phone...voip and/or sip. Using skype myself, but slightly unhappy with the way that the skype app goes to sleep and doesn't recieve incoming calls after a while.

Galaxy Note 8.0 AT&T LTE Version Hits FCC

In case you're wanting the phone version, it should appear in the USA market soon. An AT&T LTE version has just appeared on the FCC web site. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=424157&fcc_id=A3LSGHI467

Loremonger said:
In case you're wanting the phone version, it should appear in the USA market soon. An AT&T LTE version has just appeared on the FCC web site. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=424157&fcc_id=A3LSGHI467
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Been wondering though, does this include a phone? Or is it just the N5110 with mobile data?

apollostees said:
Been wondering though, does this include a phone? Or is it just the N5110 with mobile data?
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AT&T typically does not support phone functions on tablets, so I'd guess no. Although the line between tablets and phones is a bit blurred, these days.
I'm not quite ready to have a mobile plan for my tablet (and really don't need it 99% of the time). And I already have the WiFi only version. But an AT&T release might mean some better sales for the N8, and better dev activity.

If this can be flashed with a EURO ROM for phone capabilities I will be first in line. :good:

Great news....
I guess this might bring down the price a bit.
If I can get either N5100 N5110 version for under $450 and flash Euro ROMS to make calls, then put me on the line as well.

kable said:
If this can be flashed with a EURO ROM for phone capabilities I will be first in line. :good:
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Its not only a ROM issue. AT&T's network does not support phone services for tablets.

redpoint73 said:
Its not only a ROM issue. AT&T's network does not support phone services for tablets.
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The 7.0 Tab worked fine. Pretty sure the 10.1 does as well. No reason an 8.0 wouldn't. A phone is a phone, either it has voice capabilities or it doesn't regardless of the size. The only reason tablets don't work on ATT otherwise is the strip them of the feature from either hardware or software. Might have to ditch the IMEI if I remember correctly from my 7.0

LTE available in 3 days at Expansys UK
Loremonger said:
In case you're wanting the phone version, it should appear in the USA market soon. An AT&T LTE version has just appeared on the FCC web site. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=424157&fcc_id=A3LSGHI467
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http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-0-4g-wi-fi-16gb-white-250079/
499 pounds.
It's a shame it's not yet 32GB though.

kable said:
The 7.0 Tab worked fine. Pretty sure the 10.1 does as well. No reason an 8.0 wouldn't. A phone is a phone, either it has voice capabilities or it doesn't regardless of the size. The only reason tablets don't work on ATT otherwise is the strip them of the feature from either hardware or software. Might have to ditch the IMEI if I remember correctly from my 7.0
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I believe the IMEI is the issue. The network recognizes the device as a tablet using the IMEI, and then won't support phone services on the device.
That's the reason right there.

I know on the nexus 7 3g version It's thought to be a hardware limitation in the radio. Also they were never able to produce a modem capable of voice. Flashing to closest compatible radio caused a baseband hard brick with generic IMEI. Obviously the N7 was also lacking ear speaker etc, however they were able to get SMS/MMS completely working with SMS using AT&T's network. I personally used it as my smartphone replacement using my SIM for data & network texting while using google voice/groove IP for my phone services. Had to enable voice capable in bools.xml to true IOT unlock the native dialer & forward calls from the AT&T phone number to my google voice.
With that being said, I think redpoint is 100% correct in saying that if it does not work hardware limitations aside, it will be because AT&T is blocking the IMEI on their network. The N7 wasn't blocked because it was an unknown device on the network but if AT&T releases a 3g capable Note you can be sure it will be logged into their system and easy to track, just like trying to use an AT&T smartphone on the mediaNET system (which I was also using for a while on the N7 with no problems for the same reason I stated above)

redpoint73 said:
I believe the IMEI is the issue. The network recognizes the device as a tablet using the IMEI, and then won't support phone services on the device.
That's the reason right there.
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Yep, and backing up then deleting the IMEI solves that issue as you then have a generic IMEI that is not seen as a tablet they recognize and allows you to make calls. Its been done by many here at XDA including myself.

kable said:
Yep, and backing up then deleting the IMEI solves that issue as you then have a generic IMEI that is not seen as a tablet they recognize and allows you to make calls. Its been done by many here at XDA including myself.
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Are you talking about changing the imei of the device to a different one?
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redpoint73 said:
Its not only a ROM issue. AT&T's network does not support phone services for tablets.
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I have a 10.1 right now that i'm swapping SIM cards with with my phone. I use the 10.1 as a replacement for my phone when I go to school and I have no issues making calls out of it. The phone capabilities work fine on my 10.1, so I don't think it'll be an issue. I'm on AT&T

Evo 4G63 said:
I have a 10.1 right now that i'm swapping SIM cards with with my phone. I use the 10.1 as a replacement for my phone when I go to school and I have no issues making calls out of it. The phone capabilities work fine on my 10.1, so I don't think it'll be an issue. I'm on AT&T
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Also ya gotta take into account the fact att might not have the 10.1 on their regrestry. Thats how i was able to use my N7. If ATT registers the 8.0 cuz theyre going to be carrying it they can then block it. The international one may still be safe though if thats the case.
Edit: heres a good link where they explain and compare how Att detects devices on their network and how they can block it or change plans accordingly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373
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who needs carrier service to make calls?
Just download GrooveIP from the market, and it uses your Google Talk Phone number to make calls on your wifi/3g/4g network...
Call quality is fanatastic, at least for me here in chicagoland...You can even make and recieve using your BT headset!

I'd like a mobile version instead of the WiFi version I just picked up this week. Looks like it may go back during their return period.

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Are you talking about changing the imei of the device to a different one?
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No, Well not directly since that is probably illegal but if you delete your imei the device will assign a generic one automatically that carriers dont seem to detect as a tablet or atleast a specific tablet. Infact I wonder if they even bother blocking Euro devices like the 5100 since they do not sell it.
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Bladerunner1825us said:
Also ya gotta take into account the fact att might not have the 10.1 on their regrestry. Thats how i was able to use my N7. If ATT registers the 8.0 cuz theyre going to be carrying it they can then block it.
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Yup, if its AT&T branded, they will obviously have the IMEI, and they will block it from phone use.

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Yup, if its AT&T branded, they will obviously have the IMEI, and they will block it from phone use.
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Or you can just do what I mentioned in my last post and they won't be able to block you by IMEI since it will no longer be recognized as one of the devices.
IF the hardware and software on the tablet permits making calls.

kable said:
Or you can just do what I mentioned in my last post and they won't be able to block you by IMEI since it will no longer be recognized as one of the devices.
IF the hardware and software on the tablet permits making calls.
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im pretty sure spoofing the IMEI is a felony though if caught. Thats why each device has a specific IMEI.