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The g2, because I just did.
I'm just curious how long it's gonna take to find root.
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The g2, because I just did.
I'm just curious how long it's gonna take to find root.
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This HTC VISION is a big thing. I suspect that it might find its way to becoming the next dev phone -- if it follows the HTC DREAM, it should be the ADP4 *with root* shortly before xmas. I'll certainly wait on that to avoid the tmobile branding.
Well I'll always have my first born hahaha!
We bought my wife a G1 2 years ago, I think the first month it was available. It was replacing her Treo 650. I used to prefer the cheap, plain Nokia phones. They were really great phones, no frills, but great reception, great sound, great durability. But after playing with my wife's G1 for a few days to learn how to use it so I could show her, I had to have my own, so about 22 months ago, I got a G1. I LOVE my G1. I've had it rooted for a little over a year. I started with JF1.5 and I'm currently running CM5.0.8. The G1 still rocks (although it's a tiny bit buggy and slow at times). This past Mon, I preordered my G2.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
My G2 should be here Fri. If I can get my G2 on my corp wifi (WPA-Enterprise) then I may not root, at least not yet.
I got my G2 this morning. I have to say, I am not disappointed at all. It's super fast! DL speeds are about 4-5 mbps, where I experienced 2-3 on my G1. Battery life is solid. Everything opens instantly! I keep expecting it to take a few seconds to pen dialer or browser but it's almost instantaneous! Build quality is beyond great, the aluminum feels super high quality and the hinge is very sturdy, and fluid in it's motion path. The keyboard is just how you would expect it, the buttons are large and easy to press, but you do miss the extra number row at teh top, and the .com button is where i'd expect the a to be, but I'll get used to it in a few days. Swype is amazing on the bigger screen. The screen is gorgeous, colors pop like crazy and it's totally readable in the sunlight. I'm not used to everything being so big Size wise it fit's in my pocket exactly like my G1,, it is a little taller and a little wider but a lot thiner. The camera is great, and I've already used the flash! If you have any questions about it the best place to go would be the the G2 forums. If anyone wants I can put up a few g1 vs g2 size comparison pics.
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I got my G2 this morning. I have to say, I am not disappointed at all. It's super fast! DL speeds are about 4-5 mbps, where I experienced 2-3 on my G1. Battery life is solid. Everything opens instantly! I keep expecting it to take a few seconds to pen dialer or browser but it's almost instantaneous! Build quality is beyond great, the aluminum feels super high quality and the hinge is very sturdy, and fluid in it's motion path. The keyboard is just how you would expect it, the buttons are large and easy to press, but you do miss the extra number row at teh top, and the .com button is where i'd expect the a to be, but I'll get used to it in a few days. Swype is amazing on the bigger screen. The screen is gorgeous, colors pop like crazy and it's totally readable in the sunlight. I'm not used to everything being so big Size wise it fit's in my pocket exactly like my G1,, it is a little taller and a little wider but a lot thiner. The camera is great, and I've already used the flash! If you have any questions about it the best place to go would be the the G2 forums. If anyone wants I can put up a few g1 vs g2 size comparison pics.
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What is the url of G2 forums and please could you post pictures... I am sooo close to just buying this phone and calling it a day... my G1 had it's run but now it must R.I.P.
You make the G2 sound so well I think I might just head on down to Radio Shack sunday.
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant. Swype was also excellent.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
Although I loved the swype on a big screen, I realize, buttons are important, even if you don't need them all the time, especially for games, scrolling through text, flash games, remoting to your pc at home. Connecting to a terminal perhaps?
In this sense, the G2 is the true gaming phone, and not the vibrant, it seems all the vibrant is geared to do is to play avatar movie, and the sims 3 mobile game, so they beefed up the ram usage for the gpu.
Also, who could deny the guaranteed development community that the G2 will definitely have, I felt the entire vibrant development was powered by 3-4 people. Samsung hasn't even come out with 2.2 yet on the vibrant, and even if they do, their crappy file system and kernels is still going to suck up a good chunk of the good it brings. My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
QwertyAccess said:
After almost a month with the Vibrant, Why I chose G2..
I really enjoyed the big screen on the vibrant, definitely there is no flaws there, with the gorilla glass the samoled screen was just perfectly crisp.
The camera's daytime shots looked beautiful and camcorder recording was great, 720P quality, and night time mode wasn't too shabby either.
I actually thought the TouchWiz experience was fairly pleasant.
However, theres just so many things wrong with the vibrant that urked me.
My G1 had better reception, 5 Bars, vs the Vibrant's 1-2 Bar or Occasional No Signal
The touch buttons at the bottom of vibrant, while they were pretty sensitive, it felt laggy...
Samsung Built their %$%# file system on their own properietary technology
GPS, Sorta works, but it just felt inferior to the G1's GPS, which is sad.
Ram on the Vibrant.. Although the Vibrant has 512MB of Ram, your lucky to have 100MB ram free. Why? Because its not 2.2, but also when I thought of it, I felt its because Samsung isn't as good at programming efficient kernels for their radio, etc.
128MB Ram (supposedly dedicated to graphics) which is great, but I realized I don't really need that much graphics power, Angry Birds should run fine on just about anything.
My Vibrant would power off in middle of day, or reboot randomly
It felt cheap, the buttons, the plastic backing, so glossy and cheap feeling, I had a nice mesh case would remedied a lot of the feel, but it still felt like a toy.
Sound Quality through the stereo jack, varies, from what I understand, Samsung applies their own EQ baseed on the OHM rating of your headphones or line-level connection.
Poor Software, Support, its Samsung's first generation galaxy phone, maybe next year... We shouldn't have to apply hackish lag fixes to make up for samsung's half-baked file system.
Dude. Wheres my FLASH man!, need Light, also not having Flash Support on websites I wanted to visit pissed me off so many times.
Ultimately, I felt like the Vibrant was an early prototype with lots of issues, and weighing how long each phone would last I felt the G2 would last 2 years like my G1, but the Vibrant I'd be lucky if it lasted a year, especially with it having such flimsy buttons, (power/vol). I basically babied the Vibrant, had a case, and a pouch to keep it extra safe. I didn't feel the need to do that with the G1.
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Sounds more like the Vibrant broke your heart, than the G2 winning your heart. All phones have issues, If you beleive you will be happier with the G2 then thats all that matters.
Personaly i wont be happy untill tmobile has a Solid 4.3 In display Android phone.
Well said, I do eventually want something with the build quality and feel of the HD2, I saw in the t-mobile store, theres something nice when something is made out of metal, with metallic feeling buttons.
4.3? I'm straight on that. That's HUGE! I can't be carrying box of girl scout cookies sized in my pocket. That's like carrying a first gen PSP in your pocket. (I think)
But I know what you mean, big screens are cool.
I've never owned any popular smart phone, so this will be my first Android phone and I'm glad it's going to be the G2. I just can't wait to hop onto the mobile app world own it up!
U know what gave it away before I read all that?
Your username
Why I probably will sell the Vibrant for the G2 is because of the following Vibrant issues that I have had with three different Vibrants:
1. Have to go into service mode to change the bluetooth settings for people to hear me because I sound too far away otherwise.
2. I can't view full pages with about:debug because it crashes the browser.
3. When I hold the phone close to the bottom I do lose reception.
4. How long it's taking for froyo to come out.
5. Lack of flash (Small not a big problem)
6. And ofcourse the notorious GPS.
To some these might not be a big deal but it was has me really thinking of switching. Don't get me wrong, I love the screen size and the screen itself. But function always comes before form for me.
Lol didn't even notice the screen name.
I just bought my mom the Vibrant.. lol.
She's coming from an old ass Nokia candybar. I hope it's not too difficult for her to get used to.
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My G1, made by HTC was sturdy, I've dropped it hard countless times onto concrete and it worked fine till the day I got rid of it.
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well, so did I, except 2 weeks ago I dropped my G1 on my wood floor at home, and that finally did the trick. the screen went all staticy and unreadable (though the phone still technically functioned otherwise).
such bad timing because I was gonna get the G2 anyway. but I'm a data addict and had to get a replacement phone for the meantime, also I got a mt3g 1.2. I was surprised, but its like way faster. the 1.2 version has 256 RAM as opposed to the 192 in the G1 and mt3g original, and it makes a huge difference. I don't need compcache turned on to to keep web pages in memory and gtalk signed in. I never realized how much compcache slows down the system.
long story short - as much as the mt3g 1.2 was an upgrade over the G1, the G2 is gonna be like 5 times that. can't wait.
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QwertyAccess,
I agree, I have been waiting for T-Mobile to release an Android handset with the build quality of the HD2.
The G2 is the closest thing I have seen, it feels very solid and well built.
Now if it would just get here.
Makes me glad we Sprint users got the most unique Galaxy S, flash and keyboard and GPS that works. Plus I can't believe this beast of a phone is so light as well.
Now, a Vibrant to the G2 might make sense to some but I dare say that if Samsung had made the Epic for all the U.S carriers in its current iteration (keyboard + flash), you might be singing a different tune.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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why not get the nexus one which has the two mics, it is made for situations like that
PolishDude said:
If I end up selling my vibrant for a G2, it will be for a reason a little more bizarre. My 2008 Corvette with an aftermarket exhaust drones, my nokia n95, n85, e71, iphone, etc all worked fine but the Vibrant pics up the drone and noone can hear me when my car is on. I was going to buy a wireless bluetooth to fix the problem but that seems like such a bandaid fix.
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had a VW R32 w/aftermarket exhaust that had a horrible drone - only did it between 2200 - 2800 rpm. Unless you're headache proof, it can be eliminated. I found the point on the exhaust line that were vibrating like a tuning fork & secured them it with an additional hanger strap/bracket and wrapped the muffler body with asbestos tape - knocked 80% of the drone out - wife became more agreeable to riding in it after that
I honestly dont find it that bad, every other phone works fine but the vibrant
T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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T-Mobile is swapping my Vibrant for a G2, but I have to wait until the 6th to get it done. On my 3rd Vibrant. GPS and lag issues. I didn't expect them to do a swap. I was expecting to pay something. Nice.
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I love my G1. It is rock solid. I've dropped it in water until it was several inches submerged... TWICE. I've dropped in on concrete many times. I used the clear, hard plastic, T-Mobile cases, and actually drove off with it on the roof of my car. At 20mph I saw it fly past my window and hit the ground. The case flew off, but the phone is completely fine.
Heck, my wife had one, dropped it in the grocery store parking lot (didn't realize it). I sent a text message to her phone and used GPS Tracker to find the phone. I then went to the parking lot and started calling her phone. It had been run over and thrown into a garbage can. The screen was toast, and the phone was dented and scratched, but the screen still lit up, the GPS still worked, and the phone was still ringing and accepting texts. Amazing!!
I hope the G2 is as good as the G1 was only updated. If so, I'll be very happy.
I've got a coworker with a Droid X. He's had problems with his phone locking up and freezing and needing to be rebooted, much more than I ever had with my G1, even when it was rooted and running all sorts of ROMs.
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Customer Loyalty.
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I didn't get a complete swap but the rep I talked too said that if you return your phone two or more times for warranty you can choose another phone per T-mobile policy. I had one warranty swap and a battery issue, the battery issue didn't qualify but if you have done two or more warranty exchanges you can get any other phone of "similar" specs for free. You just have to trade in the old phone.
Call 611 and say cancel when the computer answers. The person you talk to will be loyalty or retention or whatever they call it. They can do almost anything for you. Be nice and explain how much the Vibrant sux and how you want something done about it. They will be more than happy to take care of it for you.
Hey guys, I was just wondering what were your opinions on the g2, and why did you guys pick the mt4g over the g2? I have a g2 myself, and I think it is a fantastic phone. I checked out the mt4g today, and I thought it looked pretty weird and awkwardly designed.
I do not mean to offend anyone, I was just interested in why you decided to pick the mt4g instead of the g2. The mt4g's material just felt weird to me, because it was mixed with plastic and metal, while the g2 has a consistant aluminum feel to it, which makes it seem like a high end device. Also the sense ui seemed downright silly. Then again it might just be me. I also see a lot of people returning their g2 for a mt4g.
What are your opinions/reasons for sticking with the mt4g?(Do you think the mt4g is aesthetically pleasing as the other phones?) Thanks.
I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
Stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
The only other things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera, metal contacts on the side for a dock, and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. Being able to use a dock is nice, although I don't know if I'll ever even buy one. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Last but not least, the genius button. At first, this seemed like a gimmick, but it's actually become one of the reasons I may end up keeping this over the G2. I'll illustrate the power of this little button for you. On both phones, this is how you would send a text message by voice:
G2: Press and hold the search button. Say, "Text John Smith." The text message window appears. You tap the message body, then tap the microphone button. Then you say, "This is a test message." Then you read your message and make sure it looks right. Then you tap send.
myTouch: Press the genius button. Say, "Send text to John Smith." The text message window appears, and a voice asks, "Would you like to dictate?" You say, "Yes." It prompts you to speak, and you say, "This is a test message." It then says, "This is a test message. Would you like to send this message?" You say, "Yes."
On G2, you had to look at your phone 3 different times, read your text message, and press several buttons. On the myTouch, you never looked at your phone, and pressed one button. Obviously if you want to text and drive, the myTouch is the phone for you.
So after all that, did I really sway you one way or the other? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. If you're on the fence, try out the genius button, it may sway your decision.
I had a Nexus One, I liked the idea of the G2, but it was basically exactly the same phone I had in my N1, just with a keyboard and a slightly slower processer. It wasn't worth paying money for something that was going to be the same performance I already had but more weight and bulk.
The MT4G has a faster processor, slightly larger screen, a lot more RAM, a lot more internal memory and I'm starting to like Sense.
I said I would only upgrade my N1 if I found something better, and the MT4G is better, the G2 is basically a Nexus One with a keyboard.
I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
One thing I disagree with is the hard vs. soft keys. I prefer the hard keys. I am sick having to hit a soft key over and over and not have it respond. With the hardware buttons there is no question... just a satisfying click.
I haven't had a single hiccup since I have had my MT4G... so far it is one of the best phones I have ever used... well, one issue... downloading apps off wifi seems to be hit or miss.
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I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
The only other two things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Lastly, stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
So after all that, did I tell you anything of value? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. The end.
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I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
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I edited my post, adding one other thing that I really like about the phone (that I didn't think I would at first) and that's the genius button. Texting without ever looking at your phone is very powerful.
@realitydesign, thanks for the info, it did give me more insight on the mt4g. I did play with the genius button, but I thought it was just another useless bloatware so I quit it.(didnt want to quote you because you posted a pretty long response. I appreciate your opinion, thanks.)
@CyberStorm98, the g2 has a newer processor that outperforms the n1 actually...
Overall I like it a lot more than my G2. Better look overall, feels better in the hand (much, much thinner), glass screen, ffc, customizable LED notification light, the phone is pure win. I like the design of this phone a lot.
If there is an iPhone killer, this is definitely it.
Also, only the white myTouch 4G's have plastic on them. The plum, black, and red models all feature hard rubber.
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My Touch 4G
1GHz - Snapdragon
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 768MB
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800 MHz - Qualcomm
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 512 MB
3.7 inch LCD
So the Mytouch 4g Processor is 200mhz faster (stock) u cant compare the g2 to the mytouch 4g when its overclocked cause thats not a fair comparison.
Mytouch 4g Ram is 256 MB More In Then G2
so the mytouch 4g should be faster but idk if sense ui slows it down vs stock android but thats the only difference in the two that matters
My wife and I are both former G1 users who got them on the initial pre-order. Last July, I replaced my G1 with a Vibrant, while my wife kept hers, in light of rumors that were circulating about the upcoming G2. The Vibrant turned out to be one enormous problem, with nothing more than a gorgeous SAMOLED screen to save it.
The G2's release coincided with my wife's birthday, so I bought it for her. I immediately felt phone envy, as the user experience of the G2 is far superior to the Vibrant. Although I almost bought a G2 as well, I decided to wait for the MT4G, which, by that time, was rumored to be released in November.
So far, the MT4G has been leaps and bounds better than the Vibrant. Yes, the screen is definitely not as beautiful. However, absolutely everything else is far superior. How does the MT4G stack up against the G2?
Both are fantastic phones, geared toward two completely different groups of users. Want vanilla Android and a physical keyboard? The G2 is for you. Want a front-facing camera, Sense UI, and don't care for the physical keyboard? Get the MT4G.
When it comes to the physical buttons on the MT4G, you either love them or hate them. Personally, after using the Vibrant for nearly 4 months, physical buttons are a welcome relief. Every now and then, I'd accidentally touch one of Vibrant's tactile buttons while doing something, causing the phone to perform undesired functions. It didn't happen often, but it surely got annoying when it did.
Since the G2 is underclocked and has less RAM than the MT4G, it's slightly less snappy, but it's not really noticeable during daily use. Again, one phone is not better than the other. Both are equipped with different sets of features for different sets of users.
Its all about perspective, and taste. If you like typing and browsing the web than the g2 would fit you perfectly.. if you like the idea of having two cameras and a slimmer device than go for the MYT4G
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Its up to you really. For some reason I like how g2 doesnt suck up so much memory ram. Mytg4 pretty much uses all its memory
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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I never would have thought of running it 3 times in a row (even though every benchmark I run on a PC I run 3 times) - I ended up eeking out 1922 from the 3rd run.
Trying the 4th time now LOL
WOW - 4th time dropped like a rock! 1653!
Makes me wonder how much credit you REALLY can give to quadrant - especially with the scores that people are getting on a Vibrant with lag fix (I was one of those people). I felt a slight increase in speed on the lagfix, but not enough to justify benchmark scores nearly triple of the originals.
picked a myTouch 4G because i did not like the bulky keyboard
not to mention that the mytouch 4G has a front camera to boot..
I brought back my MT4G and got the G2 and here are my observations....
1) The screen is nicer on the G2 - not that the MT4G screen was bad, this just seems a little more... balanced.
2) I can't quite understand why a "vanilla" android phone (G2) is still running 2.2 when the MT4G that is all MySensed-out has 2.2.1 !
3) The keyboard is really nice, but the hinge is HORRIBLE.
4) I like the lighted notification "Ring" around the trackpad, something the MT4G doesn't have.
5) (I knew this already but I have to put it out there) Stock android's email client works, but doesn't quite have the flair that MySense's email client has.
6) The screen doesn't seem as responsive as the MT4G - not that it's bad, but just not quite as good.
All in all, the G2 is going back and I'm getting my MT4G back tomorrow morning. The hinge issue, well, lets just say that HTC should never had let these out the door like this, and T-Mobile should never have accepted them in this condition. The hinge is a deal breaker for an otherwise VERY nice phone. They should not be charging $50 more for this phone either.
all i gotta say is, myTouch 4G White , Best Phone,.Stock since day 1 no problems yet, battery pretty good,. flawless wifi router.loudspeaker. crisp screen.new to genius button but its been pretty useful, if ur in to Full handsfree mode.
Was sitting in the same boat. Got the G2 first (coming from a Nexus) and decided to give the MT4G a try when it came out.
Looks and size:
At first I found the G2 a lot more aesthetically appealing although I immediately noticed how much thinner and lighter the MT4G felt. Coming from the N1 it took a bit of adjustment to get used to the size and weight of the G2 and the physical keys on the MT4G. Having said that I really like how the G2 lays in your hand when you're web browsing with the keyboard open.
Look wise the MT4G is definitely not a Nexus 2. In my opinion the aluminum rim looks a little out of place and I don't like how the battery cover doesn't match with the colors on the red and plum model. On the black model the aluminum does not stand out as much because it blends in nicely with the black. Since it's more subtle it actually ends up looking quite good. I definitely could have gone with soft buttons instead of the physical ones but that's my personal preference.
Keyboard:
Whether you want a keyboard or not definitely comes down to personal preference. It's nice to have one but you pay for it in additional size and weight. The keyboard got great reviews so I assume a lot of people like it. I personally wasn't a big fan. Typing seemed slower and more strenuous than on my G1 because of the large keys and lack of dedicated number keys. I would have liked it better with 4 rows instead of 3 (bringing back the numbers) and smaller keys to start with. I also never quite got used to the special function keys HTC decided to add. Due to their prominent positioning one is quite prone to accidentally hitting them.
One major flaw of the keyboard is that you have no control over the keyboard backlighting. Until some custom rom fixes the issue, the light will come on and off and on and off etc when you're inside because the light sensor can't make up its mind. I found myself more than once covering the light sensor with my finger to force the backlight to come on because I had problems seeing the keys in the light condition I was in and had no way of forcing it to stay on.
Build quality:
When you put the phones next to each other you'll notice that most of the materials are the same. Both have metal battery covers and use hard rubber for the rest. Even the screens are identical (despite some rumors going around). The main difference is the front of the G2 with the soft keys vs plastic physical keys on the MT4G. G2 wins hands down in that area but I don't think this difference is nearly as significant as the controversial hinge when talking about quality and durability. I guess only time will tell how that'll play out. Considering how many people have sent their G2 back because of the hinge you should be prepared that it MIGHT be a problem in the long run.
Operating system/interface:
Since we have root there's really no point in comparing sense (+ genius button) to stock since you'll eventually be able to run either one on either device. It might be more important to consider dev support. So far the G2 seems to have more support but you also have to keep in mind that the MT4G has barely been out for a week. That considered it still got root the same day the G2 did and ClockworkMod recovery was ported to the MT4G 8 hours after the G2 got it. I even already saw pictures of a MT4G running an experimental version of CyanogenMod 6. Since the devices are so similar you can expect that most stuff for the G2 will be ported to the MT4G rather quickly and vice versa. One other thing to consider is that video chat will probably be an integral part of gingerbread. Makes me wonder how the G2 will hold up in the android 3.0 era (although I'm sure custom roms will work around it).
Unique features:
G2: keyboard, click mechanism for battery cover
MT4G: front facing camera (FFC), 256MB additional RAM, 100 mAh better battery, hot swappable micro sd card
Verdict:
Both are great phones. I ended up picking the MT4G (black) because size mattered more to me than the keyboard and I liked the additional ram. I also liked having the FFC. Those are things no custom rom can add and ended up mattering more to me than aesthetics. I also noticed my hinge getting slightly looser during the 3 weeks I had the G2 which worried me a little. If you want a keyboard however, or really dig that clean cut business look, the G2 is your phone. Good luck deciding.
I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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The screens are exactly the same. It's the software which is causing the difference.
I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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Good point, I did buy the N-S for the "pure" Android experience, and not having to run custom roms/themes, and million downloads and installs, just to get what this gives me right out of the box, stock. And with all those custom roms, and stuff, the EVO seemed a little more sluggish to me, than stock Sense UI.
Plus this screen is just so awesome, I love it. And really like the thinness and light weight of it compared to the heavy EVO.
Looks you are actually having second thoughts on keeping T-Mobile rather than device.
I've been on TMobile since 1998 and I don't think I've ever experienced a dropped call. Sprint as my work phone the last two years and never had one either. What happens? Phone just hangs up? Just bizarre to me
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As long as you don't break the screen it should be very durable. The great thing about a plastic housing is that you can treat it like crap--a replacement back will probably run $5-$10, which is cheaper than any case you can buy. Metal phone housings are tres nice, but you're always paranoid about scratching or denting it (which, besides bringing tears to your eyes, lowers resale value).
My philosophy has always been that since I look at the screen and hold the housing, I'd prefer a phone with a great screen over a great housing (it's nice to have both, but you right now you have to choose).
That being said, I'd stick to the Evo. An Android phone loses the majority of its functionality if you can't get a signal, so in your case the Evo is the better choice (or get an Epic, which has SAMOLED and the same CPU/GPU as NS).
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You own an Evo already. Its the most feature rich phone on the market. NS is awesome for me. But if I had to choose just one id keep my Evo
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me the most. I have an office in the basement, and sometimes down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone never worked down here, or maybe 10% at best, Sprint was 75% and very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 30-40%, not terrible, I do get some texts down here, but not great like Sprint either.
I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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Thanks for the info, but that kind of sucks then, if it drops the call cold turkey once you walk out of the WiFi range ? Phone hardware can't handle the smooth transition from WiFi to cellular at the same time I guess ?
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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Today after 3 days with the Nexus-S, I agree with you. My EVO feels heavy like a brick now, and the screen color is so washed out and bland compared to Super AMOLED< no comparison. Plus the battery life on the N-S does seem to be much better than the EVO's so far. And the icing on the cake, T-Mobile is cheaper per month, for me a good $30 cheaper.
Plus T-Mobile seems to be the best Android carrier, they seem to get the best and latest phones pretty quick. They were first ever Android carrier with the G1, and then the first with the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S. And I prefer the "Nexus" idea, getting the untainted OS, sort of like Apple with the iPhone. Just buy a new Nexus every Christmas to have the latest and most pure Android phone.
Sure there will be new dual core faster phones early next year. I rather wait for the Nexus-3, by then dual core will be done beta testing on other phones, and the Android OS will be really optimized for it by next Winter. I wait for the dual core Nexus, not the any ol dual core coming out right away next year, no thank on the bugs and issues that may pop up. For now I am a happy Nexus owner. Will just plan to buy a new Nexus every year for now.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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Personally, I find the Nexus to be the perfect size after using the EVO for so long. Often times I found myself having to stretch my hand to reach the notification bar, and the phone just seems too wide now. As far as the "build quality," my EVO's had unattractive light leakage from day one while the Nexus is perfect in every way. I think a lot of people have gotten stuck in the "heavier = better quality" rut. Just because the Nexus is light doesn't mean it isn't solid.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I will make final decision by Monday, after a full weekend with the Nexus-S, but leaning on keeping her
Nexus-S;
- T-Mobile is cheaper, almost $30 per month.
- Super AMOLED screen is amazing
- Lightweight and compact size easy to keep in shirt pocket, but still good size 4" screen
- Hummingbird processor is smoother at pulling apps and scrolling, not choppy
- Pure Android OS, no need for major custom roms, will get Honeycomb right away
EVO;
- Large 4.3" screen is easier to text on, and read
- Sprint service might be slightly better than T-Mobile
- 4G ( but never used but a few times, major battery )
Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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Be aware that AMOLED can be a serious battery killer. Try to play Angry Birds and you'll know what I am saying.
480*800*3(color per pixel) light together can draw power like crazy.
Currently using a Nexus One, actually have 2 of them. Have the opportunity to make a straight trade for a G2 for one of my N1's.
Other than the keyboard and "4G" connection, is there anything that really is different about these hardware wise?
I know the N1 will get updates faster, but with the use of custom roms this does not affect me. Also, dont have much use for a keyboard, so would this even be a beneficial trade in anyway?
Guess i am just a little confused, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
G2 is pretty much better in every way except the screen. I have both.
I had a Nexus One and then got a G2 in a BOGO offer at T-Mo. I find myself using the Nexus more. The G2 has some weird issues, like updates to Google Apps that are pre-installed causing force closes (Google Earth, for one, and I can't install the new version of Maps because it constantly runs and shows up as 80% on battery usage when I check to see why it's draining). I also hate how bulky/heavy it is (and it's more annoying since I don't use the keyboard). I have small hands so I find it more comfortable to hold my Nexus. If you use a case (which I need, I tend to drop phones) the phone doesn't stay fully closed due to how the cases snap on.
I guess it depends on your usage. Since you'll be keeping a Nexus, then maybe it'll be fine. If you won't miss the second Nexus, then go for it.
Thanks for the input so far.
I think one of the unknown factors that i am trying to decide is....will the N1 get updates as long as the G2 will? I know the N1 is a developers phone, but with the NS coming out, do any of you think the N1 will stop getting updates although the hardware may very well still support it? With the G2 being 6-8 months newer, will it get updates longer in the future than the N1?
I know we really dont know the answer to this, but it would be interesting to see what you guys think.
Also keep in mind that the G2 is SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than the nexus one. i think it's almost a half-again heavier and that can be a big deal.
If you are going to have a N1 extra I say do it! I have a N1 and have used a G2 before. I hate keyboards built into a phone but that is just my preference. I would not worry about the N1 loosing support because of the NS the N1 I think will always be supported and updated if not always at least until the N1 can not handle newer Android OS. Only then will I upgrade to what ever Nexus is available at that time.
Trade and if you hate it find someone who will trade you for a NS or a N1 again!!
In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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I think the keyboard is what really makes it the G1's successor.. people were waiting for that.
this is a tough decision. i love the G2 because it's build quality and materials are just like the nexus one, which i love. but i never use a physical keyboard, so that's wasted space to me. but the g2 has the better snapdragon CPU and better GPU, but the nexus one has a better form factor.
since you will still have a nexus one after the trade, go for the g2.
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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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The screen is sharper because it is a SLCD like some of the newer N1's, but it uses a back light so the blacks aren't as deep as our AMOLED N1s. My Co-Worker has one and I like it.... but would I trade it for my N1... no.
The G2 is noticeably heavier and thicker. The optical sensor works and supposedly it has a "trackball light" notification around it but I haven't seen it in action. While I dislike keyboard phones, it is comparable to the Nexus. They truly look like brothers.
I don't know if a G2 could replace my Nexus, but if you have 2 N1's and looking for something different then it might be worth a trade.
You guys have been really helpful. Some really good points have been made about both the N1 and G2.
Now i gotta sleep on it and figure out what i decide to do. Will let you guys know!
Leaning towards keeping the second N1 right now....
The G2 is Free on T-Mobile right now if that helps your decision.
yes free G2 and call 611 and say cancel and if you have been a long time customer and paid your bills on time you can ask for the $20 data plan.
I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
Same dilemma
Well I have the same question. First off, I appreciate this post in general, everyone definitely seems to have good input and good opinions that they back up well. I have kind of the same "issue" so to speak. I am getting a new G2 tomorrow, but I know someone who is willing to give me 100 dollars plus a mint condition n1 for it, what do you guys think I should do? I'm just afraid that in terms of day-day function, the n1 will be slower. Any info is much appreciated!
I considered getting a G2 for a while as well. A few things turned me off:
1. The size of the thing compared to a N1 - this thing is a hefty brick!
2. "Pure" Google, not really...seeing how TMobile conveniently removed tethering, but this can be solved through root
3. The MMS bugs
4. The N1 Car/Home dock are just too slick to give up.
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I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
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yeah i just cant stress enough how excellent the color trackball is on the n1. having color blink in succession, so when i'm at work and i see it blink from red to green to blue to yellow to cyan, and instantly KNOW what each of my 5 messages are, is truly useful. its more useful then anyone without it could ever understand, and its highly under rated i think by many. it may sound cheesy to say "i like colors", but talk about functional and cool at the same time. the perfectly centered nipple just looks classy.