App location confusion! - Galaxy Tab General

Hullo.
Finally got my Tab (BOOYAH! )
installed several apps, and quite big ones at that. Noticed my internal storage was going down but not the internal memory or sd was going down.
Basically, at which point will apps be stored on the sd card? After internal storage has run out?
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Only certain apps can be moved to the SD card, but it's up to the developer to make his app movable.
I suggest you to download this little app
http://www.appbrain.com/app/app-2-sd-(move-apps-to-sd)/com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd
It will scan your apps to know which one are movable.

Oh. So its only stock FroYo a2sd? :|
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Should be able to use ModInstallLocation to force apps to external memory, but i've not found the need to try it yet.
Regards,
Dave

2gb is more than enough for me, but i was expecting it to be more like a2sd+ than cruddy FroYo a2sd.
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What's the internal memory good for ?

What good is internal memory on Droid X ? How can you access it and what can you put on there ?
It's faster than SD Card memory because it's built into the phone and doesn't have to pass data as far. You have 8 gigs of it built into the Droid X. I bet you could access it with the Android SDK methods, but I'm not sure if you can put it into mass storage mode like your SD Card.
TL;DR Internal memory faster than SD Card
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
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amathophobia said:
The internal memory is the default location that all your apps are installed to if you do not choose to use app2sd to run them off of your sd card.
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are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
I have tons of apps and don't use apps2sd for any of them (it gives me nothing but problems). Haven't had a single problem with not enough space.
StDevious said:
are you sure ? haven't people been complaining of low memory space for apps, like only a few hundred MB.
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there's RAM and there's internal memory. RAM is where the ACTIVE apps run, not where they are stored. There is only a few hundred megs of RAM, but thats fine. Internal task killer will start killing them if you managed to drop it below a certain level from running too many apps at once i.e. autokiller settings <> ATK.
What i wish is that apps with libraries could store the library in the internal rather than in the SDcard, it would help with clutter on the SDcard, and probably access faster too...

Android Memory Management

Hey guys,
Recent iOS convert and still figuring out a lot about my atrix and android in general.
Would someone be willing to give me a rundown on how media and apps are stored?
Specifically, where are Market and non market apps stored on the atrix? Can I control the download location through settings?
The same for music and video? I've been dragging and dropping media to intetnal storage but it appears on my 8 gig SD?
Same goes for beyondpod. Can't figure out the storage path.
A little confused.
Thanks for the help. This is a heck of a community!
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joelszs said:
Hey guys,
Recent iOS convert and still figuring out a lot about my atrix and android in general.
Would someone be willing to give me a rundown on how media and apps are stored?
Specifically, where are Market and non market apps stored on the atrix? Can I control the download location through settings?
The same for music and video? I've been dragging and dropping media to intetnal storage but it appears on my 8 gig SD?
Same goes for beyondpod. Can't figure out the storage path.
A little confused.
Thanks for the help. This is a heck of a community!
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First, the "sdcard" is your internal storage. An actual sdcard will be referred to as external or sdcardext, or something like that. You can place music and pics pretty much on either one and the music player and gallery will find it. As for apps, you can download them and most will end up in non-accessible internal memory but you can go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and select the app and you might or might not have a choice to move to "Phone" or "media Area". The media area will be the external card.
Live is correct, you can put anything on either SD or ExtSD and it will be found. As for the apps they download to /system/apps in the Internal phone storage, unless you do the above and move them to the SD card. To be honest though you've got a ton of storage on the internal phone storage for apps so unless you have like 500+ apps it won't be an issue. As far as how the internal SD is organized basically the Internal phone storage and internal SD are the same thing, the internal phone storage is just partitioned off to be used for the OS and app storage and you see the remainder as usable SD internal storage.
Thanks for the information guys, much appreciated.

[Q] Where did my app storage go?

I've run out of app storage space on my phone. Its given me a low storage space warning and wont let me install anything else until I remove something.
I use apps 2 sd pro which was the free app on amazon a long time ago. It is telling me that I have 39.04MB available out of 498.38MB total on my phone. I have moved every possible app that will let me to my sd card. The are 40 apps that are left on my phone though that can not be moved and are the standard things I always use and dont want to get rid of. Things like maps, market, music, flash, etc.
I've added up the size of all of the apps installed to the phone storage and it comes to about 162MB. How are 162MB's of apps taking up 498MB of space. Where did the other 336MB go?
kswis001 said:
I've run out of app storage space on my phone. Its given me a low storage space warning and wont let me install anything else until I remove something.
I use apps 2 sd pro which was the free app on amazon a long time ago. It is telling me that I have 39.04MB available out of 498.38MB total on my phone. I have moved every possible app that will let me to my sd card. The are 40 apps that are left on my phone though that can not be moved and are the standard things I always use and dont want to get rid of. Things like maps, market, music, flash, etc.
I've added up the size of all of the apps installed to the phone storage and it comes to about 162MB. How are 162MB's of apps taking up 498MB of space. Where did the other 336MB go?
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Epic will raise "Low memory" warning when phone has less then 50Mb of free memory.
Clearing the cache for some programs will make it go away.
Open Samsung program manager and it has all stats for available memory on the last two tabs.
The other 336 MB is the operating system and system apps.
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I thought the phone had 1GB of ROM though. And that about 500MB of it was for the OS, and the other 500MB was for apps. Is this not how it is? Is it only 500MB of ROM and I only get about 160MB for apps after the OS takes the rest of the space?
The Galaxy II has the 1G, we get 512MB.
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kennyglass123 said:
The Galaxy II has the 1G, we get 512MB.
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Kenny the epic has 1gb of rom 512 mb of ram. The SGSII has 16 gb rom and 1gb of ram.
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Op did u clear the apps cache? also is your phone rooted?
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musclehead84 said:
Kenny the epic has 1gb of rom 512 mb of ram. The SGSII has 16 gb rom and 1gb of ram.
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Acxcording to this it is 512 MB ROM and I only see 485MB listed in the applications storage.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Epic-4G_id4720
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If you are using a froyo rom, you can install an app called move2sd enabler, follow the instructions and it will make more apps able to be moved to the sd card, rescan with apps2sd and it will do the rest.
I wonder the same thing. I moved all my apps to the SD card using Titanium Backup,but still running low on space on the internal memory. So the question is what is taking up the memory? If you look at a app in Manage applications you see the storage breakdown. Total,Applications,Data,Cache, and their respective sizes. Here is the deal, you can move your applications to the sd card but the data stays on the internal memory. The data is all your preferences for the app like saves for a game or bookmarks in a browser,things like that. To find more room on internal memory find a cache cleaner in the market. Delete Pictures on your messaging they too are stored in internal memory. Hope this is helps
Mojonator said:
I wonder the same thing. I moved all my apps to the SD card using Titanium Backup,but still running low on space on the internal memory. So the question is what is taking up the memory? If you look at a app in Manage applications you see the storage breakdown. Total,Applications,Data,Cache, and their respective sizes. Here is the deal, you can move your applications to the sd card but the data stays on the internal memory. The data is all your preferences for the app like saves for a game or bookmarks in a browser,things like that. To find more room on internal memory find a cache cleaner in the market. Delete Pictures on your messaging they too are stored in internal memory. Hope this is helps
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There is no option to install apps on your sd card with Titanium. It only backs up a copy of your apps. You need to go into Settings>applications>manage applications and click on every app and move them to sd/usb storage that allows you (not greyed out).
Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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DaKillaWilla said:
Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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Thanks,
I didnt know about the batch option to move to apps2sd, i just did it one at a time.(long press on the app in Titanium brings up the option) Just remember don't put apps that use widgets on SDcard.
I would be careful using titanium to move apps to the sd card. Some apps just can't be moved to sd card, widget apps will break if not in internal memory, and a lot of system apps can't be moved from the system side of the rom. Titanium doesn't care it will move everything if you tell it to weather it breaks it or not. Just saying use care if using titanum to do this.
I'd start with settings, applications, manage, then the sd option at top. Move everything you can that way first before going to other options to move apps.
Also if you use a particular app often it will run faster if left in phone memory then off the sd card.
Use adb or terminal emulator and check /data/log for dmp files. I've had to clean up several times and did the trick.
DaKillaWilla said:
Titanium has a batch option to move all apps2sd or internal memory.
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Holy crap! I never scrolled down the list in batch operations. My bad...thank you sir!
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I thought I had a lot of apps...still haven't ran out of room on the epic. But I do have to say I don't have many games.
you can save some space by using the option in Titanium Backup to merge updates for system apps.
I have this same problem too. I deleted a lot of unused Apps and moved any others to SD. I do not have the option to clear cache from any App. I even deleted all my messages and entire call log and still says internal memory is full. When I add up all my Apps memory its less than 150MB. Its really annoying. Out of curioiousity what ROM is everybody with this promblem running?
BBlunts456 said:
I have this same problem too. I deleted a lot of unused Apps and moved any others to SD. I do not have the option to clear cache from any App. I even deleted all my messages and entire call log and still says internal memory is full. When I add up all my Apps memory its less than 150MB. Its really annoying. Out of curioiousity what ROM is everybody with this promblem running?
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check /data/log you may find some dump files that need to be deleted.

Now that I've rooted my Tab 4, is there a way to put my apps on the SD card?

Internal storage is a constant struggle. Now that it's rooted, is there any way to make the tablet view the external storage and internal storage the same?
You could have always moved apps to the external card - just go to Settings->App Manager->SD Card, pick the app to move and click the "Move" button. There is also a way to make it so that you can move ANY app to external SD card (search for it) - or I can post a link later.
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Thanks for your input. It would allow some apps to be moved, but def. not most of them. I have done a search to find what you're referring to. If you get a chance to link to it, that'd be great!
Thanks.
There are many tutorials on how to do this - here is the first one that came up in a Google search. Just be careful - this will allow you to move ANY app to SD - even apps that shouldn't be moved! Also, if you use a widget for an app, you shouldn't move those apps either as it will break the widgets.
http://techgage.com/article/moving_your_non-movable_android_apps_to_an_sd_card/
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Folder mount is one which works on all android based rooted devices (from 2.x android to 6.0)
Hi all! I am having the same issue. I bought my children these for Christmas, and I was shocked after we installed a couple apps and ran out of space! I put in a large uSD in one of them, and I could not move 90% of the apps over to it! Again, I was shocked.
I am SO glad I found this thread. So can anyone elaborate, like using Folder Mount for example. It sounds like I MUST root their devices in order to ever achieve moving apps to the uSD? Are there any other non-root alternatives, etc?
Thanks so much!
I used a free app from the store called Apps2sd. You have to create a second partition on the sd card, but then you can move/link all apps and associatec data to the sd card. One big thing to keep in mind is sd access times... depending on your sd card, it might be several orders of magnitude slower than the internal memory. I bought a UHS3 sd card and it offer acceptable performance. Hope that helps.

Apps on SD Card?

So I'm new to this whole SD card thing, I've only owned the s6, which obviously, didn't support expandable storage. So my question is - is it possible to move apps onto the SD card slot? I understand there might be a performance hit, but for a lot of apps, I can careless about the performance of the storage on it.
I saw there was a "move to sd card" option for applications on the galaxy s5 - will there be something similar here?
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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Thank you. That's good news all around. Now if only some games would store their data on the sd cards.
I currently move apps to my sd card on the Galaxy S5;, using a utility called "All in one toolbox". It allows me to move apps so they run off of my micro SD card. Does anyone know if this will work with the Galaxy S7 edge?
mikesnav said:
Nope, don't believe so. If it's anything like past devices though, app data can be saved to SD card. Camera can capture to SD, spotify can download tracks to SD, GPS navigation apps can download maps to SD, etc. Main app files will be on main 32GB memory
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But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
Running MM on my S5 and the Adoptable Storage works so well, I hope Samsung change the mined about this.
Dr. Fed said:
But, if it is anything like past devices, it could have an option to "move app to SD". Has the removal of this feature been confirmed yet? We all know Adoptable Storage is gone, but what about App to SD? Is it confirmed missing, or are we just speculating?
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Pretty sure App2SD has been a mod / specific vendor addition since... a long time now. That hasn't been a part of Android for years. Removed in Jellybean maybe?
I don't know if Samsung has specifically written this in with the S7, sorry.
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
JoshuaFCB said:
I'm pretty sure I heard one of the dudes who did a first impressions on it that an upcoming feature in marshmallow will allow to merge SD card storage with internal .... No idea how credible the dude is though
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That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
PDXMatt said:
That is a Marshmallow feature but Google has encouraged manufacturers to remove that feature. The LG G5 and the Samsung S7 phones do not have it.
David Ruddock from Android Police says.
"Google discourages using adoptable storage if:
Your SD card slot is in an area where it may be regularly ejected (i.e., the SIM slot) and/or your phone has "sufficient" internal storage already, which is probably these days 32GB or more. Adoptable storage is apparently intended as a feature for phones with very limited internal storage and for stationary, IoT types of devices.
LG has done the same, and does not have adoptable storage on the G5."
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Is it something that be acquire through rooting?
I've got the option to move apps to SD straight out of the box. Go to the Apps, find the app, go to Storage. It's there. Not every app has it but lots do.
Apps on SD Cards Disappearing from Edge
I was able to move some downloaded apps to the SD card. Then I put a few on the Apps Edge. But I found that, if I reboot or power off/on, the apps (not just the icon, but the apps themselves) disappear from the Edge. Has anyone else seen this?
You can do it through adoptable storage:
https://youtu.be/H31UOrXJKH4
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
runwaypimp said:
I got my S7 Edge yesterday & love it.
However I'm having trouble transferring apps to the SD card. In my case, I can successfully move the app via the Application | Change Storage Location option BUT when I look at the SD card in a file manager, it has only moved the folder structure & the app files remain in internal storage.
Anyone know what the hell is going on?
Cheers.
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I am having the exact same issue. Says it moves the apps, but the internal storage and SD card usages do not reflect this; the corresponding directories on the SD are size 0 and empty as well.
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
gpap2004 said:
go to settings/aplication manager. find the app you want to see if it can go to SD and go to Storage. There you can see if there is Change button .
i mooved many apps to my SD but when i restart my phone i didnt had worked apps.
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Sorry but the only thing that happens is a folder is created on the SD to store the app. data. Nobodies apps are moving over to the SD card.

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