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Picked up an IO phone, and since we cannot activate the Evo on our Sprint lines yet, I am starting to use my google number for my main number. Figure good time to switch.
Dialing in and out is fine so far. I like that I can control who rings through to what phone etc.
I am not sure I am a fan of how it handles text. Seems like all SMS go into gvoice, AND into handcent, but handcent comes from some 406 number.
Anyone find a way to work around this? Of a way to make texting work more like it does if they text your phone?
Disable Google Voice (on the website) from texting the #, and just use the Google Voice app for SMS w/ the GVoice #.
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Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
Yeah, go to the website and disable SMS to your cell phone and just use the google voice application for texts.
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[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you at work.
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Cool!
I do something similar at work.
I have my GV calls forwarded to my office desk number and my cell phone at the same time. This way I have the option to answer using my desk number or my cell phone.
Bah, this does not seem like a good solution.
Handcent, Chomp, etc, have a great popup that I really like. Going through google voice app all the time isn't as handy.
I was also a little surprised that I am not able to send or receive mms at all through google voice. So any pictures / links have to be sent directly to my phone.
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[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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I've been doing this for years. Never occurred to me to tell anyone else about it. Thanks.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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Also very handy if you have roomates.
I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
I am with you. The whole txt message thing is why I'll probably never use google voice for much else besides maybe a call forward.
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
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You either have to choose - use the GV app or use Handcent or whatever other SMS proggie you like. If you use the GV app, turn off SMS forwarding and all texts are handled within the GV app itself, no charges for texts with your carrier, and there is no need to deal with 406 numbers because the app is all integrated with your contacts.
If you need to use an SMS proggie, then of course you'll have to forward text to your GV account as SMS' and the benefit of GV is lowered.
I use Google Voice extensively for about 50% of my contacts. Because of this, I set google voice to ask me every time if I want to use Google Voice to dial or use the native method.
What would be great is if I can specify that preference on the contact level so I don't have to go through the menu selection for every single one of my calls.
Thoughts?
I think you can do this by dialing the 406 number assigned to your contacts by Google. The caller ID they receive will be from GV, which I presume means the call is actually routed through GV. I did not experiment fully when I discovered this since I have unlimited minutes anyway.
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I think you can do this by dialing the 406 number assigned to your contacts by Google. The caller ID they receive will be from GV, which I presume means the call is actually routed through GV. I did not experiment fully when I discovered this since I have unlimited minutes anyway.
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can you elaborate on the 406 #?
there is an app for that.
search market for "GV" or "google voice" and you will find it.
Can't remember the name of it but I was looking into it because I use GV for domestic calls but voxofon for international (great rates and intercepts calls like GV app does, this double interception causes issues).
Basically, when you call someone via GV, Goog assigns them an alias number in the 406 area code. If you dial that alias straight through the phone, you will be connected using GV even though you didn't start the call using GV. Also if you text that alias, the text will go through GV.
The trick to finding the number is to receive a text from it. That text will be from their 406 alias. Needless to say, this obviates finding the 406 of a landline and makes finding the alias of business contacts unprofessional.
As of earlier this year I knew of no other way to find the 406 number.
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Basically, when you call someone via GV, Goog assigns them an alias number in the 406 area code. If you dial that alias straight through the phone, you will be connected using GV even though you didn't start the call using GV. Also if you text that alias, the text will go through GV.
The trick to finding the number is to receive a text from it. That text will be from their 406 alias. Needless to say, this obviates finding the 406 of a landline and makes finding the alias of business contacts unprofessional.
As of earlier this year I knew of no other way to find the 406 number.
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Interesting. I believe i skimmed over something like this as it sounds familiar. I will look into this as it seems like a valid solution for what i need.
Thanks for your help!
So, I got the 'preview' Email yesterday informing me that I can get early access to this.. Think of it as being a beta tester. Anyway..
I went ahead and did it last night. I used my current Sprint Number and overwrote my existing GV number. It seems to only bind your Sprint number to Google Voice as some sort of "smartbind" or "software bind", but not like I thought it would. This is by no means permanent as you can easily "disable" it without hassle. MMS works fine (for those who choose to use their Sprint number as GV). No, they doesn't show up in GV Inbox, but you can send and receive MMS the same as before. I'm sure Google and Sprint will figure out a way to integrate MMS as well, then that horrible Sprint PictureMail website can finally RIP.
However, If any of your friends are bound to GV, be prepared to receive messages from their GV even if you send SMS messages to their non-GV number. So, if you don't already know someone has GV, you will get messages from a GV number and will probably wonder who it is.
Example:
I send a message to my friend.
She replies, but the reply comes from her GV.
(at this point I got confused because I didn't know she had GV)
I send another reply to her mobile #.
Replies still come from GV.
I decide to just send replies to GV.
Other things to note:
-If you choose to overwrite your current GV with your Sprint GV, your current GV number will expire in 3 months.
-You can have it ring to your Google Chat if you're on a PC. Awesome! This opens up a number of possibilities maybe.
-For some reason, I can't figure out how to get the Google Voice App for Android to notify me of Voicemails only. I set it up to send me a text message when I receive a Voicemail as a workaround.
For those who want to try and keep their current GV rather than replacing it, try this.
This form allows you to move numbers between accounts: https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/g...ey=cjlWRDFTWERkZEIxUzVjSmNsN0ExU1E6MA&ndplr=1
Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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This is a limitation when using apps such as Juice Defender. This is a primary reason why I am so excited to finally be able to use regular SMS again as it doesn't rely on data. I can also use the custom SMS apps such as GO SMS and Handcent.
I am eagerly awaiting this integration as I have been using GV as my primary voice # for over a year now and I did not get in the beta.
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Just want to add u don't even need the app. Google voice will route sms to your phone as normal. Having this integration allows you really to use your Sprint number anywhere u can.
Only benefits.using.the app is sms will go out on WiFi and data
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Yes, however, you will either need to enable sending voicemail notifications to text so that you can call your VM, or use the Google Voice app for your voicemails (it doesn't support sending vm notifications, only "new items" which include sms/vm) so using text nofications along with the app is the current workaround.
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Yes, however, you will either need to enable sending voicemail notifications to text so that you can call your VM, or use the Google Voice app for your voicemails (it doesn't support sending vm notifications, only "new items" which include sms/vm) so using text nofications along with the app is the current workaround.
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exactly no need for an app
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ModXMV said:
This is a limitation when using apps such as Juice Defender. This is a primary reason why I am so excited to finally be able to use regular SMS again as it doesn't rely on data. I can also use the custom SMS apps such as GO SMS and Handcent.
I am eagerly awaiting this integration as I have been using GV as my primary voice # for over a year now and I did not get in the beta.
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I would love to see them integrate GV into the native SMS app. It only makes sense on android....
when is the official release date?
Supposedly on Tuesday 4/26/2011
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is this new?
My biggest question is does it use your cell mins.
Example, my friend calls me from his cell. Is it still counted as mobile to mobile? or does it go to google and then my phone and is billed as regular landline mins?
Mobile to mobile. Your sprint number becomes your gv number.
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It still relies on your Sprint plan. So if you have expendable minutes then yes, it will be used.
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I would love to see them integrate GV into the native SMS app. It only makes sense on android....
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It intergrates by.setting.up gv to.send sms to.your sprint phone. Works just like before intergration
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I have been using my Sprint # as my GV number for several days now and so far it has worked as intended. I am still able to use my native text app for those that think you cant. To use the native text app you just make some setting changes in GV.
I tried it and don't like it so far. I tried the option to use google number as sprint number because I paid for it awhile back, I like the number, and I don't want to lose it. I think that google should allow you an option to keep your gv number, even if you make the sprint number the gv number, if you paid for the gv number in the first place. If you paid for it, they shouldn't throw it in the pile to expire in three months.
Fortunately if you pick the same option as I did, the use gv number as your sprint number, you can back out and make them separate again without losing the google number. Nothing happens to the sprint number, as far as I know.
Something that still seems unclear is if doing this integration makes people with mobile to mobile have to use their landline minutes, even if they are talking to someone on a mobile, because they are going through google.
I posted my questions and findings in the epic forum awhile ago. I'm not certain if choosing the google number makes all your calls route from sprint to google then out or what. I don't remember making any calls to see if the lag issue still existed or not. I don't know if there might be a call routing problem sometimes like there is when using separate numbers and making a call but choosing the use google voice to make the call from the gv app. No use in asking the sprint people about this because you will probably get different answers. Also trying to search google help for voice is like the needle in the haystack thing.
Ok, here's some tests I ran and my results. If you can try these yourself and see if you can get different results by trying different things, things I might have missed, please do and post your results.
The first test I changed my google voice account so that my google voice number was my sprint number. After restarting the gv app as instructed, I lost the ability to do some stuff. The choice to use, or not use, google voice to make the call is gone. I wasn't able to call anyone at that time to test if there was lag in the audio or not. I tried sending a text from the stock app to my sprint number and it went through and showed my google voice number as the originating number. The text went to the stock app, but I don't remember if it went to the gv app or not. I sent a text from the stock app to my gv number and the message bounced back to the stock app and gv app. I tried sending a picture from the stock app to my sprint number. It acted like it sent but I didn't receive anything. I tried sending a pic to my gv number and nothing received also. I don't know if it actually went out or not. I didn't have anyone to send a pic to to tell me if they got it or not. I was trying this late at night. I don't know what would have happened if someone called my sprint number if the phone would still ring or not.
I went back into google voice on the computer and changed the settings so that it wasn't integrated anymore. I logged out then back in with the gv app on the phone. The choice of using gv to make the call came back. I sent a text from the stock app to my sprint number and it bounced back like expected. I sent a text from stock to gv app and it bounced to the gv app as expected. I sent a pic from the stock app to the gv number and it went out but never came back as usual. I sent a pic from stock to sprint number and it bounced back.
What I am guessing is that, from my experiences, you can't receive attachments if you make your gv number your sprint number. Like I said, I don't know if the attachments are going out or just acting like they are. When numbers are separate, pics bounce back when sent from then to my sprint number.
Unless someone finds out something different, or google fixes stuff when they make it live, I will be staying with separate numbers and conditional call forwarding and being able to hide behind my google number when calling people I don't want having my real number or I might want to block them some day. There's been word that mms is either in the works or done with google voice, it just hasn't been officially made live or an updated gv app that allows attachments yet.
I will wait and see what happens. Like I said, maybe I missed a setting somewhere? I don't know. Everything looked okay in the settings on the google voice account on the computer.
I tried integration again with gv number being my main line. I tried calling my sprint number an it rang through so no problem there. I didn't have the ability to test mms but I did read on one of the gv help pages that if you send a sms with stock app, it will show your gv number. If you send a mms, it will show your sprint number. if someone wanted to reply to a sms you sent with a mms, then it would fall into the black hole. Apparently if people want to send you a mms, they must send it to your sprint number. This is certainly a pain for anyone else to remember. In my opinion, this integration shouldn't have happened until mms was introduced and integrated.
If you run separate numbers and conditional call forward to gv for voicemail, like I do, then there's no difference that I can see with the old way or new way. It just seems like a different way of getting the same end result.
From what I've read, If you make the GV number your cell number and someone sends you an mms, it goes to your stock reader. Since your gv number is now also your sprint number, it shouldn't matter...unless I've misunderstood.
Wasn't this supposed to officially roll out today? I still get the $20 fee, or is that always the case?
This whole google voice thing with sprint is making my head hurt, hopefully I can get some clarification here.
I jumped on board with google voice the first chance I could. I have a google voice number, and that's the number I give out to EVERYONE!
My wife is the same way, hell, she does not know her Sprint phone number.
1) Can we make the google voice number our "sprint" number, and still keep all the benifits of the google voice number (calls from GMAIL, ringing different phones, ect)?!?!?!
Thanks
I just got my invite that says try it before others...
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I left the evo and went for the nexus....but I got much love for the evo, so I figured this out and wanted to post it here.
Ok so I orginally thought the idea of GV integration with sprint was awesome...after fiddling with it. I was very disappointed.
The problems I had with it were...I dont want to use my GV number as my primary. I dont want to change my GV number to my cell number. Each option had issues that I felt needed to be addressed. Changing my GV number to my cell made it to where txt would be comming into my phone via gv app. Yes there is a work around but ita annoying and I dont want my text stored on line. I also didnt want to change my gv number, this to me sounds like it could be a bad idea at some point in time, and cause other issues. So I set out how to get classic google voice back with the new app that will not let you just use it for vm heres how i did it.
1) Launch GV app on phone, and sign in, when it ask choose to change your gv number to your cell number.
2) Get annoyed and go get a shot of vodka, and wait about 15 minutes (honestly because you wont be able to change it back for at least 15 minutes.)
3) Login to gv on the web (voice.google.com)
4) once in there click the gear, and pick voice settings. Under the phone area choose to disable the sprint port number (your google voice number). It will disable and revert back to your old gv number
5) Where your mobile number is at you should see enable google voice mail for this line. Click that, and follow the instructions.
6) Click on voice mail and text uncheck email message and send sms.
7) on your phone open gv, goto more then settings make sure it says. Making calls do not use gv to make calls. make sure this phones number is your actual mobile number adjust sync options as you wish and make sure My gv number is indeed your gv number.
8) DO NOT SIGN OUT OF THE APP (Im not sure what will happen but my guess is it will break.
Options: now if you dont want to use the gv app you can have gv send you an sms or an email instead. or you can manually call your vm (by calling your real gv number) or by editing your voice mail settings under call settings and change your vm settings.
Enjoy
I purchased the N4 today from T-Mobile and upon restoring my apps I noticed that there were at least 6-7 updates for different Google apps, Google Voice being one of them. I was happy to see that considering that folks who already had the N4 reported it being broken on 4.2 and I don't pay for a text messaging plan with GV. I ported my number to GV a few years ago and while I love the flexibility there have always been some bugs depending on the device and build and a lack of updates that make it less than perfect.
After setting it up which happened without any errors or crashes I was pleasantly surprised upon my first incoming text message and clicking the notification to find that I could see an android emoji which the native voice app doesn't support. Also the threaded conversation looked different and then I realized.... texts were coming through the default messaging app as opposed to GV. Fired off some new messages and some replies and sure enough recipients were seeing my GV # as opposed to my sim #! Opened GV and found the each new outgoing and incoming message there as well.
Can any other GV users confirm this?
I use GV for texts as well. This would be a great concern if it send through the standard SMS app/Cell number. Once i receive my gnex i will be testing this
If you look at the notes for the GV app in the Play Store, it mentions this.
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If you look at the notes for the GV app in the Play Store, it mentions this.
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I'm in the US and under what's new it list:
Bugfixes.
Now integrated with Android 4.0 visual voicemail.
Direct access to folders from the inbox in Android 4.0
It doesn't make any mention of what I'm describing about the default messaging app. If you're using GV to avoid paying for a text message plan and are incurring charges because of this new change you'd want to know. In the US we get charged for incoming and outgoing.
this must only be on the n4 cause the gnex it is still coming thru the google voice app
You might want to check if your google Voice's setting is setup correctly/changed. If "Receive text messages on this phone" is not uncheck, you will get text in defult text app ON TOP of get on in GV app also. Just a guess, N4 not here yet.
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You might want to check if your google Voice's setting is setup correctly/changed. If "Receive text messages on this phone" is not uncheck, you will get text in defult text app ON TOP of get on in GV app also. Just a guess, N4 not here yet.
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Nailed it! I got a new number and did the set-up from the app instead of the Voice Portal. Thanks for the heads up that was it!
Yes i can do that on my gnex but then it uses the random google voice number as the number in the stock messaging app. Is this what you guys are getting or does it finally fully integrate?
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I purchased the N4 today from T-Mobile and upon restoring my apps I noticed that there were at least 6-7 updates for different Google apps, Google Voice being one of them. I was happy to see that considering that folks who already had the N4 reported it being broken on 4.2 and I don't pay for a text messaging plan with GV. I ported my number to GV a few years ago and while I love the flexibility there have always been some bugs depending on the device and build and a lack of updates that make it less than perfect.
After setting it up which happened without any errors or crashes I was pleasantly surprised upon my first incoming text message and clicking the notification to find that I could see an android emoji which the native voice app doesn't support. Also the threaded conversation looked different and then I realized.... texts were coming through the default messaging app as opposed to GV. Fired off some new messages and some replies and sure enough recipients were seeing my GV # as opposed to my sim #! Opened GV and found the each new outgoing and incoming message there as well.
Can any other GV users confirm this?
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Can some more people confirm that this is working? I am trying to decide on whether to port my number to GV or to Tmobile prepaid.
I have one other question as well. Is it syncing with the contacts actual number or does GV still assign your contact a new number through GV?
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OK, my problem is the voice update is requiring me to send a text through ATT to set up voice. I have texting blocked through ATT.
Any one know a way around this so I can use voice for texting and voicemail again???
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I purchased the N4 today from T-Mobile and upon restoring my apps I noticed that there were at least 6-7 updates for different Google apps, Google Voice being one of them. I was happy to see that considering that folks who already had the N4 reported it being broken on 4.2 and I don't pay for a text messaging plan with GV. I ported my number to GV a few years ago and while I love the flexibility there have always been some bugs depending on the device and build and a lack of updates that make it less than perfect.
After setting it up which happened without any errors or crashes I was pleasantly surprised upon my first incoming text message and clicking the notification to find that I could see an android emoji which the native voice app doesn't support. Also the threaded conversation looked different and then I realized.... texts were coming through the default messaging app as opposed to GV. Fired off some new messages and some replies and sure enough recipients were seeing my GV # as opposed to my sim #! Opened GV and found the each new outgoing and incoming message there as well.
Can any other GV users confirm this?
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Now that some more people have their N4, can anyone else confirm that this is working on their end with Google voice and the N4?
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I'm in the same spot -- getting ready to switch over from Verizon to Nexus 4/Straight Talk and would like to port my number over to Google Voice, but I really dont' want to unless the whole thing can be seemless (Phone and Text). I don't really MMS, so that's not much of a concern.
My thought at this point is to get my Nexus 4 (ordered, just waiting for delivery), install the newest Google Voice, and run some text tests with a friends phone to see if my current Google Voice number (not ported, but shouldn't matter) displays properly using the deafult text program on the Nexus 4. If (and when) all of that happens, I'll be sure to post an update here...
Everything is working as it should. The problem I experienced was because I got a new number and did the setup from the Google voice app instead of the web portal. The app doesn't give you all the configuration options such as not sending text messages to the phones default messaging app. Do your setup from voice.google.com and you'll be fine. Also if you're new to the service you can verify your number with a phone call instead of text message shouldn't be an issue if your plan has no text messaging.
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I received my nexus 4 yesterday and google voice started up just fine. completely separate from my regular SMS 'Messaging' app. I haven't tried GV voice mail taking over my regular one yet.
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Everything is working as it should. The problem I experienced was because I got a new number and did the setup from the Google voice app instead of the web portal. The app doesn't give you all the configuration options such as not sending text messages to the phones default messaging app. Do your setup from voice.google.com and you'll be fine. Also if you're new to the service you can verify your number with a phone call instead of text message shouldn't be an issue if your plan has no text messaging.
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kchino -- Just so I understand, you are able to use the default messaging app to send text messages through your Google Voice number? If so, that's fantastic...I just may current number to Verizon after all!
Yes, you can send text directly through the default messaging app using your gv #. If for instance you have the gv web portal option set that sends your incoming gv # texts to your phone, opposed to just the gv app - it works as traditional carrier texting but with your gv #. This is what confused me in my original post.
Like most who port their cell numbers to gv I don't pay my carrier for text messaging that saves me over $200 a year, I use the gv voicemail as well. The gv app uses data for messaging and you can't send mms. I typically just hide the default messaging app in the launcher because any texting from it will cost me. I'd prefer to use the default app, it definitely is a better ui but again if you use the default app you'll be charged by your carrier.
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I would love to be able to use my default messaging app and my google voice # for sms.
Is this what you're using?
Can you explain your setup?