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Hi guy's
I've started a thread over at tvcatchup.com's forum to gather support for a windows mobile application or at least access to the tv streams that the iphone uses as they have a special portal that doesnt use flash.
Just wondered if it would be possible for you to show your interest in this thread too and bring tvcatchup.com to WM
Thanks
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Cant believe there arnt more people out there who want this working on WM!!, maybe its my fault for just making this post in the Leo section of the forum.
I've tried seting my user agent in Firefox to iphone 3.0 UA and managed to get the page to load where for bbc one it has this url
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/iphone_bbcone.sdp/playlist.m3u8?stream=bbcone
which downloads a playlist, if you open the playlist in notpad you get this
#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-STREAM-INFROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=100000
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/ip...t.m3u8?wowzasessionid=431120102&stream=bbcone
But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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It's the m3u8 file format that's the problem there. It's not something we can play on WM devices.
I've tried to sign up to the site so I can post words of encouragement and support on the thread, but it just keeps throwing an error, so i can't
Good luck with this - I'd love to see this on WM.
Surely the playlist just directs the iphone to some H.264 stream, Im sure something like coreplayer would be able to play that? but as you say the playlist doesnt open.
I tried renaming the .m3u8 to just .m3u (as that's what coreplayer recognises) but no luck after that,
Can I ask a mod to move this to a more appropriate section to get more exposure.
Thanks
made a post on tvcatchup thread. lets wait and see if they show any interest.
Well it looks like there's been a response from them
Their are 12 versions of Windows Mobile operateing system.
Id hate to guess how many different phones are useing the variaty of Os's.
Their are massive compatibility issues within each and every OS version and Mobile Phone Type.
iPhone was chosen as our first step onto the mobile market as their is ONE operateing system and specifications between each iPhone are the same. Its one of the most sold new phones on the market and its keep selling. It was highly feasible for an iphone application.
Windows Mobile on the other hand would be very complex. It would cost TVCatchup to develop such application, and we have not yet finished the iPhone which is in Beta.
One step at a time im afraid, we can not jump into every handset from day one.
If theirs a skilled windows mobile developer reading this that uses TVCatchup, we do have an API.
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No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Well it looks like there's been a response from them
No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Yep... i read that and replied also (im ukbreakbeat on there)
Come on XDA Devs... you know you want to get on this!
Cheers mate, I've contacted a certain dev on here with a well know tv app, hopefully they give him the goodies
Anyone know about any progress? Is FryWalker working on it?
He let me know he had been in contact with their lead developer, and that they were very helpful, I belive he's working on it
I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
Surely all that would be needed is a codec for core player to allow it to play the m3u8 playlist??
I have done a bit of sleuthing and there is a program called pocket player that claims to be able to play m3u8 files but I've had no luck with this so far.
I just use Skyfire to watch.. and it works fine. Looks perfect especially in landscape mode.
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile UK and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
inclement_weather said:
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
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I thought they were all on board for Fry to develop his MyPlayer app to include TV Catchup streams?
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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Hi - thanks for the tip - I checked around and had to change my DNS settings to a UK server then reinstall Skyfire so it'd pick up a UK farm. Done that and it connects fine !
Only thing (there's always something) is now that the picture is great but there's no audio - any ideas why no sound is coming through and if there's something I need to change ? I checked the IP settings and there's no compression set - not sure what else to check.
Thanks for any help,
Inclement
Karlos G said:
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
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Agree. Installed it last night, and it works albeit a bit choppy. I only tried it due to a dedicated iphone freak at work going on about tvcatchup, and that the HD2 can't do it. Can't wait to see him later
I recently found out (thanks to Cyanogen's Twitter) about Google's Android App Inventor and wanted to see what everyone thought about it? I think it's great in that more apps would theoretically be released, though of questionable quality. But also I'm wondering about the value of development using code, would this become more valuable as a result of laziness on the part of some developers? Or would its value decrease since it's easier to make an application now? I haven't actually used the program yet since I want to gain a firm grasp on actual coding but these questions were in the back of my mind since the invention of things other WYSIWYG eg Web Development.
I'm thinking this is a good thing, you can make apps on the go, for practically anything. It will continually get better, unless it crashes and burns because it floods the market and similar with ultra-****ty programs.
Later on Google will probably release some sort of testing program to run it through the hoops to see if it's good enough, or something like that.
Remember, it's still in beta
great great great, it means idiots like me will be able to solve some of our own niche needs*, that have as yet not be done.
*a special farty sound.
I'm disappointed it's not available for download now. I was all excited reading about it and then realised it's not even out yet.
It can only be a good thing and the app market can easily be changed to filter out the inevitable rubbish it will partly create. However a lot of useful and ingenious apps will also be created that wouldn't have been (like the one I will make).
I'm looking forward to it, there's a few things I want to make that aren't in the marketplace. Just wondering what sort of functionality we will be allowed, if I can make my own task manager/battery monitor widgets for example.
I like the idea too.
Hopefully this doesn't lead to a glutton of bad apps on the market!
Depending on how functional it is, we might never need the market ever again. Half an hour making your own app vs half an hour searching the market and trying half a dozen bloated ad-ridden apps.
Morghus said:
I'm thinking this is a good thing, you can make apps on the go, for practically anything. It will continually get better, unless it crashes and burns because it floods the market and similar with ultra-****ty programs.
Later on Google will probably release some sort of testing program to run it through the hoops to see if it's good enough, or something like that.
Remember, it's still in beta
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But its already pretty powerful... and bound to get better.
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great great great, it means idiots like me will be able to solve some of our own niche needs*, that have as yet not be done.
*a special farty sound.
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Yeah... But who knows, Maybe that TINY niche need is something else that someone might want to use and then that ends up bing a profitable app. Not because It makes a ton of dough, but because it was so quick and easy to make.
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I'm disappointed it's not available for download now. I was all excited reading about it and then realised it's not even out yet.
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Im using it right now.If you read the actual website... there are links to all the tools and how to use them.
saj222 said:
I like the idea too.
Hopefully this doesn't lead to a glutton of bad apps on the market!
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This is always a potential. With ease of programming comes more apps, and with more apps comes more Bad apps. But if this helps one person make one useful app, its done its job.
I really hope to get good with this, and maybe have alot of community support here... this could very wellbe a powerful tool for noob developers.
IDK though, I wouldn't think anything could ever replace actually typing out code as opposed to using blocks which is what it seems like App Inventor does.
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Im using it right now.If you read the actual website... there are links to all the tools and how to use them.
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Could you be a bit more specific on how you got the final 'my projects' section working?
i have installed everything.. and the final stage it requests my details (which i had previously filled in)
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Im using it right now.If you read the actual website... there are links to all the tools and how to use them.
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When I login I get: "We will be granting access to App Inventor for Android over the coming weeks. Fill out this form (only your Gmail address is required) and we’ll have you building apps soon! While you are waiting feel free to read more about App Inventor and learn how it works."
Have been all over the http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/ website and can't find any links to download or use tools. Am in the UK so maybe that is the problem.
Same here with me. Maybe they need to verify our info and then give us the links to download
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When I login I get: "We will be granting access to App Inventor for Android over the coming weeks. Fill out this form (only your Gmail address is required) and we’ll have you building apps soon! While you are waiting feel free to read more about App Inventor and learn how it works."
Have been all over the http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/ website and can't find any links to download or use tools. Am in the UK so maybe that is the problem.
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Its in beta right now, so like most great Google things in their infancy it is invite only.
App inventor looks wicked, reminds me of Visual Basic only useful since it works on platforms besides Windows >
I think this is a progressive idea!
But hope the market stays as clean as possible with QA Apps!
I made a simple app (send an SMS).
- Made it using the app inventor : Apk file takes 1MB and once installed, the apps takes 3.5MB of space!!! (whitch cannot be moved to SD, even with Froyo)
- I made the same app "the normal way" with the android sdk and eclipse : the apk file takes 13KB and the installed app takes 20KB
I heard that when its released, all the apps will not be put on the market right away... in the future... maybe, but that'll prob be after Google makes a filter as to which apps can be put on the market. Not to mention, the Google $25 market upload fee will still apply, so even if Google doesn't filter, it won't completely flood the market.
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djeanhimself said:
I made a simple app (send an SMS).
- Made it using the app inventor : Apk file takes 1MB and once installed, the apps takes 3.5MB of space!!! (whitch cannot be moved to SD, even with Froyo)
- I made the same app "the normal way" with the android sdk and eclipse : the apk file takes 13KB and the installed app takes 20KB
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I suppose it's to be expected. As with all tools of this type, you get ease and speed when developing but you also get a huge runtime when compiling.
Dragos
Aint normal IMO...
The compiler knows which objects it has to take in account when building the package.
I mean it's not a big deal to include only what is necessary...
Anyway, that size problem (added to some interface bugs i encountered) makes me believe that this project is far from being usable.
By now, the only use I'd make would be prototyping views on it.
It's in BETA for a reason.
any one got google application inventor ?
i think i have requested thousand times for Google application inventor.....but they didn't respond yet.......
i think they will publish on 2012............
I was sent an invite weeks ago, they will get round to you...
Until it allows icons for apps and market submission ... Its just a bit of fun.
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I got the acceptance today... it's not an application that you can download... it's web based and runs in an applet type application with a jnlp installer. Personally, I think it might be ok for prototyping... but good luck making anything that is close to advanced with it. It would be easier just to write the code.
i am waiting for my reply.........goooooogle............
I wish I had the mind of a programmer! I want to be able to code and write apps so bad, but I'm more of a visual guy. I do 3d animation. Every time I try to learn programming my brain begins to melt.
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I wish I had the mind of a programmer! I want to be able to code and write apps so bad, but I'm more of a visual guy. I do 3d animation. Every time I try to learn programming my brain begins to melt.
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Agreed! I realllly wanna learn code but it boggles me. This app inventor may not be too advanced, but it'd be fun to tinker with to make small personal apps. Still waiting for my invite lol :impatiently waiting for google to email back:
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smartsreenath said:
any one got google application inventor ?
i think i have requested thousand times for Google application inventor.....but they didn't respond yet.......
i think they will publish on 2012............
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Yeah, I just got one yesterday. But as eatmold says you can't use a custom icon on the phone (though that may be possible to do, but the people who know guard the secret - google say its on the list, but knowing them that will be 2012!)
However it is possible to export and import code (not java, some special google stuff) - so people might be able to exchange and share information.
i am a medical student.........for us Google application inventor is a wish come true.............
just think how long Gmail was in beta. still waiting on my invite
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But as eatmold says you can't use a custom icon on the phone
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Get folder organizer. Might be one word. It allows you to place a widget, with a custom icon, that launches either a folder, or an app. So you'll have a stock app in the app drawer, but at least it'll look nice on your desktop
I asked for my invite second day. Still no invite
Where can i sign up to this?
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Where can i sign up to this?
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i cant post links yet... bummer...
https: //services.google.com/fb/forms/appinventorinterest/
just got it
Took about 3 to 4 weeks. I rather enjoy it. Going to school for computer science and its great for learning basics. Its block dropping but the blocks say the code so if you try its a great teacher. N1
Im still waiting on my invite, perhaps its location based on the invites?
it may be location based of usage based. I applied a month ago and nothing yet. I even put detail about the app i wanted to create in my application to them.
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it may be location based of usage based. I applied a month ago and nothing yet. I even put detail about the app i wanted to create in my application to them.
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I agree. It's been almost two months since I signed up and still nothing. Everyone who's gotten it so far, what state are you in?
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I got the invite on Aug. 18th and I am in Maryland.
David
I got mine. I live in Virginia.
It's pretty neat, but I've been having issues with VoiceToText not waiting until my TextToSpeech is finished running.
Like, I'm trying to create a voice driven menu for hands free use so I ask a question and then want it to pause for an answer... Instead it starts talking and the VoiceToText box comes up at the same time. Frustrating...
Darnit! It seems like you are all on the east coast... but so am i lol. I'm in CT, maybe ill see it soon!
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Got mine Aug 20. In Colorado.
I know people might not answer this, but what the hell, you never know.
I'm a programmer; good old fashioned programmer. That's what I do. I've coded in Assembler, PASCAL, RPG II/III, COBOL, C/C++, SQR (a DB language), Easytreive (mainframe), CICS (more mainframe), JCL (mainframe "language"), JAVA and now Android.
Currently unemployed due to crappy market and my location. I've coded a couple of apps and they are on the market selling, albeit slowly.
My problem is, I'm NOT creative LOL IMO, I can code the pants off anything, but I'm just not good at coming up with ideas. I think it's that "left brain, right brain" thing!
Anyone care to throw out some app ideas? Seems like I think of stuff, but it's "been there, done that" on the market. I have my own hosted site and ability to store 10 gigs of database data if that helps.
I'm not interested in doing games or themes or wallpapers (remember, NOT creative!) LOL
I'm new at coding and I have ideas coming out of my ears, so to speak, but I don't have the means (knowledge) to make them a reality. How familiar are you with the android sdk and APIs? I'm kinda new at this, having only released one app into the market. I would like the help of an experienced coder. Check out my website www.fufurinnovations.blogspot.com to see what I'm working on. Thanks in advance
I am looking for an app like Mail Tones for Blackberry that alerts you with a different tones for selected email contacts. By default the notification tone for all incoming emails is just one for all. I tried Mail Alerts but it is very unreliable. Maybe you like this idea? This is a very helpful app in BB since it lets you know when an important email comes up without looking at the screen. Weird that there is only one app in the Market and it just doesn't work.
And what about another app like a camera add-on that lets you level all your pictures using the inclinometer and allows you to take pictures having always the horizon line leveled.
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And what about another app like a camera add-on that lets you level all your pictures using the inclinometer and allows you to take pictures having always the horizon line leveled.
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Love this simple but effective idea!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
I need, and many android users will agree, that sms messages do not need to be kept forever. I want an app, an addon, an alteration whatever that deletes old messages up to a set time period... 7 days, 14 days, 31 days etc.
If I had a text from o2 highlighting the fab new offers I ignore it and 30 days later its automatically deleted!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
I'd love an app that emulates the standard iPod USB protocols well enough to control my Android music player from my car stereo.
Theres a lot of people in a thread in this forum wanting a gtalk widget for android....and willing to pay for it.
Enhanced camera
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Love this simple but effective idea!
posted direct from the legend that is the x10i... the fastest processor, the slowest response...
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I actually thought that the app called Theodolite was going to do this but it was actually a triangulation app. In any case, it comes with an inclinometer that allows you to measure the angle of the camera in x and y. It has a measurement of angles kind of like the vision from Terminator, very cool, but then if you take the picture, those measuring things stay in the picture and the picture itself comes out at a lower resolution so it is not really a photography app, its a measurement app. It could be cool to have a bip once you get the camera/phone leveled with the horizon line.
Cameras nowadays don't come with this feature? You can then sell them the program...
you can help me out with my music app im only decent at concepts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10692674
How about an app that is able to identify if someone in the area is running android and to be able to strike up a gtalk convo via invite. idk if that'd be possible.
WOW! Thanks to all the repliers (is that a word? LOL). Oh my, there's an idea right there for my database space...a dictionary or thesarus!
Some very, very good ideas out there and I DO appreciate them very much. I can definitely see 2 or 3 apps that I can start working on.
Keep the ideas coming and I'll get my fingers going on development of some of the replies up to this point.
Thanks again!
Figure out bluetooth hid in sense roms or video out for aosp roms.
Hello,
An application that encrypt/decrypt phone conversations in real time between two android phones could be nice...
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One app i really think is missing is a good working RSS-reader which makes it possible not to juggle between the RSS-reader and a browser.
An example would be a super simple reader like Google Reader that can open up the posts in background inside the reader, having the same possibilities as a browser.
I am tired of HTC sync not working right with custom roms. I need something (app or software) that will sync my pc Outlook contacts and calendar with android phone. There is a need for business people that want to use their android phone for business! IMHO
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I don´t know if exist an app that can do what I want...so...here it is the idea:
It´s an app that can change the apps icons in the drawer...like the one we use to change icons in desktop....but....for the drawer...
Or maybe a widget for app launcher...I know there ir a lot of it....but make one like the objetdock for windows...if you know what I mean...
Cheers! and thank...
i have many great ideas, but im not a programmer...my only problem with you is that you seem to want people to GIVE you their ideas...like recently, i had someone develop a clock widget for me in which i provided the graphics...we are splitting the profits 50-50...so maybe if you could make an agreement like that or a 60(you)-40(me) agreement then i might be able to help you out...and you could help me
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i have many great ideas, but im not a programmer...my only problem with you is that you seem to want people to GIVE you their ideas...like recently, i had someone develop a clock widget for me in which i provided the graphics...we are splitting the profits 50-50...so maybe if you could make an agreement like that or a 60(you)-40(me) agreement then i might be able to help you out...and you could help me
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Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that ...my bad.
Of course I would be willing to split profits on a joint-effort project. And, I'm terrible with graphics design and the like. And sometimes, the user interface can make or break the applications (people like "Wow, cool" or flashy app interfaces).
I'm more of a "meat and potatoes" guy; input your data, get info back LOL
So yes, I'm willing to pursue a multi-person project as I think it's beneficial to both parties, not only monetarily, but the possibility of learning from each other.
Thanks,
Roots
Im sorry, i didnt mean to come off rude, lol...and im good with photoshop and UI ideas...i have no degree in anything just to let you know, im a self taught 17 year old, who like i said has no programming skills just ideas...i will get back to you though...im currently working on trying to update this other app i have
Hi All,
This may not be the exact place to put it, but I came across a framework that's just recently been released. It's designed for corova/phonegap as well as the web browser and their webpage is the app you download. It's pure JS/CSS and from a workflow perspective is incredibly quick to pickup (if you know good Javascript then there's nothing to learn).
The documentation is mostly done other than a few module write-ups (the author says it's in progress). I was particularly impressed that the app worked with code I'd previously written and was ready to go with minimal changes. Check it out - http://app.igaro.com
Does look interesting, Im currently working with Cordova on a little app.
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Does look interesting, Im currently working with Cordova on a little app.
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If you use it let the author know, he's looking for examples of it being used. Coming from AngularJS I've found it a breath of fresh air, and it's so gawd damn fast on mobile!
Author says the docs only have a few to go and he's presenting it at a JS conference in Melbourne so will have a video to go up.