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I read a post from someone (sorry mate couldn't find the post to give you credit) that if you simply removed Timescape from the home screen the battery life will extend.
I was getting around 9 hours of charge per day. That was with approximately two hours talk time and 40 minutes of web use.
I removed the Timescape and Mediascape icons from my home screen this morning. It has been 14 hours with the same usage as before and I still have 60% left on my battery.
I will test it out some more tomorrow, but for now it seems to have worked. I might add Mediascape to home screen and see how it goes.
So before you start loading extra software in an attempt to increase you battery give this try.
Hi - Are you talking about the Timescape widget? I removed that ages ago cos I wasn't using it...!!!.. I don't seem to have a Mediascape widget though?
I think he's on about the standard icons that are usually displayed on the home screen..
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im_iceman said:
Hi - Are you talking about the Timescape widget? I removed that ages ago cos I wasn't using it...!!!.. I don't seem to have a Mediascape widget though?
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Yes, the Timescape and Mediascape widgets (just remove them from all three home screens. Try it out! It is only my first go with it and there has been a very big difference in power consumption. I also got rid of the clock.
I only have browser, calander, messaging, dialer, maps, google mail, and facebook as my home screen widgets. I will keep this up to date to see how far I go on a charge.
Oh, There is one other thing I did today I havent done other days. I have had WIFI connected non-stop.
HI fm1776- I don't have a mediascape widget... I can't find one either!!!.. what's it look like? what's it do?
im_iceman said:
HI fm1776- I don't have a mediascape widget... I can't find one either!!!.. what's it look like? what's it do?
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It looks like three bubbles. Two small in blue and one larger with a PLAY symbol in it. It opens Mediascape.
ahh.. ok.. that's the mediascape shortcut.. that won't affect your battery. it just launches the app.. doesn't do anything just sat on your home.
im_iceman said:
ahh.. ok.. that's the mediascape shortcut.. that won't affect your battery. it just launches the app.. doesn't do anything just sat on your home.
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I think there is a chance that some of the wigets/shortcuts are actually engaging something (updating) and using power.
there is no other reason why my battery power has increased. But I will keep checking and see how it goes.
widgets definitely can.. and do drain your battery - depending on what they do, and how often they update... can't see a shortcut doing anything like that though.
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widgets definitely can.. and do drain your battery - depending on what they do, and how often they update... can't see a shortcut doing anything like that though.
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Ok, than. There might be one other explaination. I have had my wifi connected non-stop today (at home) have not been able to get 3g connection today.
Other than these facts I have not changed anything else in my habits. There has to be something related.
the 3g vs wifi thing would probably be it.... When I'm at home I switch 3g off and I can easily get through a full day on about 30-40% battery usage... When I'm out and I have 3G on it absolutely kills the battery... although.. I have recently reinstalled (stopped using it a month ago and then thought I'd re-try it).. juicedefender and set it to switch APN on for 2 mins every 30 which helps a lot...
so in summary - switch 3G off when you don't need it.. makes a huge difference (I normally run on GPRS when I'm out - which is fine for background tasks.. and just switch 3G on when I need to actively use the internet or XDA etc..)..
I just checked to make sure. I have an hour and 35 minutes talk time. five no answers. I used web to read some news and check the weather, and shopped android market looking at whats what and sent 2 text messages; maybe 45 minutes. I spent another 5 messing around with google maps. This is about normal usage for me. Every other day I got about 9 hours per charge.
Today, it has been 15 hours and I am still at 60%
I will give it a shot tomorrow only using 3g and see what happens.
also - as a "control test".. I switched 3g off on my wifes phone too (she has a HTC Legend).. when she's out at work her battery drains really bad... and with 3G off it lasts twice as long...
I also switched Juicedefender off... which made a huge negative effect too..
so with 3g off and Juice defender on.. the phone lasts about 3x as long as it does without them. (she's not a heavy user of the phones "smart" functions, but does read email etc on it)..
Just set the Timescape update timer to never and update it yourself when need be and turn wi-fi off when not near wi-fi access points; the constant updating and wi-fi searching is causing the battery drain.
17 hours and still over 50%
im_iceman said:
the 3g vs wifi thing would probably be it.... When I'm at home I switch 3g off and I can easily get through a full day on about 30-40% battery usage... When I'm out and I have 3G on it absolutely kills the battery... although.. I have recently reinstalled (stopped using it a month ago and then thought I'd re-try it).. juicedefender and set it to switch APN on for 2 mins every 30 which helps a lot...
so in summary - switch 3G off when you don't need it.. makes a huge difference (I normally run on GPRS when I'm out - which is fine for background tasks.. and just switch 3G on when I need to actively use the internet or XDA etc..)..
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is there a widget to switch between 2G(GPRS/EDGE) and 3G?
can't find like that download Quick settings juice defender or any other apps on market
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is there a widget to switch between 2G(GPRS/EDGE) and 3G?
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yes it is: apndroid.i think is very handy. put it on home screen and just press it to turn 3g on and press again to turn off, so simple.
stavrosd2006 said:
yes it is: apndroid.i think is very handy. put it on home screen and just press it to turn 3g on and press again to turn off, so simple.
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Actually, I dont want to turn off APN totally as the weather needs to be updated automatically. What I want is key to switch between 2G and 3G. When I browse internet ot downlaod sth, the 3G connection could be turned on. And 2G connection is turned on for the rest time.
I know there might be a dozen threads about this, but its all gobbledygook and nobody seems to have a straight answer.
I just want to ask: What can we possibly do about Froyo draining our battery? Task manager auto-killers aren't working right now it seems.
Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
Task Managers??? Are you kidding me? My battery life has doubled since Froyo because I dont use task managers or auto killers. Use Fresh Rom, with set cpu with perflock off, change the screen off to 245/245. Most important part is condition your battery...Trust me, i thought it was stupid as well, but it works.
drmacinyasha said:
Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
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haha thats funny and true so i like it. i am running froyo official and have noticed an increase in battery. but hey when you get near your computer plug your phone in when you get in your car plug your phone in.
Froyo Killed Your Parents??
Sorry To Hear About Your Parents
R.I.P.
theres not much else u can do..just wait for a fix
I have ota and its the worst batterie ever with out doing nothing not even a phone call it died under an hour i only have gps enable had 3g off 4g to app all close no auto killer
Htc Evil Phone
I have the same problem. I read reports that Facebook 1.3 will not release the partial wake lock. I took FB 1.3 off and the problem persisted.
Here is how to check if you have a problem with your partial wake lock:
goto settings > about phone > battery and compare the uptime and awake time. If they are the same or very very close you have a wake lock problem. A wake lock allows an app to prevent your phone from going to sleep, even if the screen is off. If these times match then an app is creating a wake lock and not releasing it, and therefore your phone never sleeps.
As I said removing FB 1.3 did not solve the problem, but I was able to prove it is a wake lock as using Advanced Task Killer to kill 21 tasks allowed my phone to actually sleep, as indicated by a corresponding difference in the two times. So now that I know this is an app doing it, I will try to narrow it down and figure out which and report back.
OK I just found it. It appears the LED Light widget also causes a partial wake lock. To alleviate you don't need to uninstall it, just remove the widget.
Which led light? From market or the one with 2.2?
Borg1982 said:
Which led light? From market or the one with 2.2?
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The new "flashlight" app is not a widget...It's actually called LED Light, by picolyl.
I don't have a problem, for me is little better!!!! just buy a new battery that solve your problem
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Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
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Problem NOT solved. Or maybe 15 extra minutes.
Or don't use it at all, you'll save plenty of battery
Check to make sure that your Google Talk app is not automatically signing in. Go to apps - talk - settings. This is a typical battery drainer
totally forgot about google talk. have flashed a few ROMs back and forth, and now running a stock rooted ROM, I forgot to shut this one off...
use a custom rom, something without sense and try not to have a f***ton of widgets. im running cyanogen nightly and i get about 10 hours before i hit 20%-30% thats when i quit doing stuff and start trying to make the battery last. screen eats most of the battery so turn the brightness down.
my average 10 hours is 75-125 txts 30 + or - min of talk time and 3+ hours of internet (facebook)
oh, and about your parents... they are gone, there isnt an app or a rom that can fix that.
Indeed, the title of this thread is goofy. Froyo has literally killed my parents....... and has done a bad job for my battery life on my phone. Haha!
I guess an apostrophe would not have hurt after the word "parents" eh?
Doing a factory reset will fix your problem... I had the same problem when I updated.
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Doing a factory reset will fix your problem... I had the same problem when I updated.
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I'm having similar issues with my OMJ 2.2 froyo rom. poor battery life, plus it seems laggy and unresponsive. i was much happier with OMJ's 2.1 rom
Its time we need a thread like this to ensure every G2 user is getting the best out of their battery.
Here are my tips:
- WiFi: Should ONLY be ON when you are actually using it!
- WiFi Sleep Policy=NEVER: it takes more time and power to seach for a Wi-Fi AP than actually staying connected to it. Settings > Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi Settings > MENU > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy > Never.
- Bluetooth: Should ONLY be ON when you are actually using it!
- Use 2G when possible: If you know you are in a area with NO 3G support, than set your phone in 2G mode so it doesn't use power looking for 3G. Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile Networks > 2G only
- Haptic feedback=OFF: I personally leave this OFF because minor vibrations are annoying plus consume battery. Settings > Sound > Haptic feedback
- Audible Selection=OFF: For obvious reasons, we use the touchscreen the entire time, enabling this will case battery drain everything you make a selection in Android, App, Web. Settings > Sound > Audible Selection
- Display - BRIGHTNESS=30%: I use about 30% brightness when indoors - when I am outside I turn it up brighter using Power Control widget. Settings > Display > Brightness.
Note: You can also leave it on AUTO, which is will provide optimal bnrightness with respect to ambient light.
- Display - Animations=Your choice: I personally have ALL of them enabled, but that is scarificing a small amount of battery power. If you do NOT need the pretty transitions, you can opt for other options. Settings > Display > Animation.
- Display - Screen Timeout=30: I leave mine at 30 seconds, as I think that's ideal for most situations. Settings > Display > Screen timeout.
- Location - Wireless networks=OFF : The phone uses tower and signal strength to calculate your APPROXIMATE location, which is a waste when you have GPS. NOTE: This feature assists in fiding your location indoors. If you plan on using GPS outside on than you should leave it OFF. Settings > Location & Security
- Location - GPS=ON: It should be ON if you plan on using MAPS or Navigation. NOTE: GPS is ONLY used when system needs it! Having it Checked OFF does NOT help battery life. The only time GPS is active is when you see the icon in the notification bar. Settings > Location & Security
MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS
- DATA - (3G/HSPA+) - Hogs the most battery, even more than the brightness of the phone. The reason for that is when you are surfing, searching, texting basically anythin that requires 3G/HSPA+ data the radio, CPU, and RAM are always working to ENCODE and DECODE data going in and out the device. This process requires all 3 major components to work simultaneously which draws more power from the the battery!
- Widgets - Widgets like facebook, twitter, weather, news do have processes running in the back which draw DATA depending on your refresh options. ie, You will draw less power if your facebook/twitter updates every 3 hours instead of 1.
- APPS - Always keep in mind that APPS like messengers and others which constantly need data DO run in the background. Background apps will draw DATA AS needed, which bring it back to the point above. Always make sure that you SIGN OUT of APPS that require background data, IF you don't plan on using them.
- Live Wallpaper - yes, it looks pretty as we all know it. Sadly, the truth is that both CPU and GPU are working hard in the background to bring a smile to your face when you look at the screen. Live wallpaper will affect your battery about 5 - 10%, dpepending on which one are you using.
- Vibration - Considered important as well.... if you are a CONSTANT texter/EMAIL-er AND you dont need Vibration, than you should turn it off. Vibration actually takes more battery power than actualy sounds.
- Volume - Should be considered important because the higher the volume the more battery power it'll take. If you can do just fine with a Mid-level volume than you should set ringer to mid level!
YOU SHOULD NOT USE A TASK KILLER APP
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
^^^ That explains everything about it ^^^
I'd be happy if one of the MODs made it a sticky, so we dont get Qs or reposts
and ofcourse I will also include any tips you guys have.... please leave a comment and explain why&how you think it saves battery life. I will than add it in this list
thanks for this.
auto-brightness works for me. also, wireless network location is kind of necessary because gps won't locate you when indoors. when you're indoors you don't really need an exact location anyway because you probably know where you are. but using wireless networks to get your approximate location enables you to quickly search for things nearby.
one more thing I might add - my G2 seems to constantly switch between edge and hspa. I think I recall this being an issue for the N1 too. if I'm not mistaken, switching taxes the battery. so I set the phone to only use 3G (or only 2G depending if I want to use less battery). you have to have Anycut. then crete a shortcut to "phone info." here you can control the radio behavior. WCDMA is 3G, while GSM is 2G.
also, question: anybody ever have any luck conditioning their battery? I keep hearing that it improves battery life but it's never really helped me
Thanks for the tips! Though, what are you sources saying that WiFi sleep uses more battery? Auto-brightness does work for me, it is just very slow to make changes and tends to be on the brighter side.
most of these tips are pretty much universal for most of the current and past android phones.
LET IT BE KNOWN the main reason for battery drain (slow or fast) is APPS. They drain more than talking on the phone. They also are the main reason your screen (the next big battery killer) would stay on. In other words, don't complain about battery usage if you're using your phone constantly throughout the day @ work or home. ITS NOT GONNA BE GREAT!
joebobjoe said:
Thanks for the tips! Though, what are you sources saying that WiFi sleep uses more battery? Auto-brightness does work for me, it is just very slow to make changes and tends to be on the brighter side.
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As an Electrical engineer, I work with wi-fi chipsets... The process is that when wifi is "sleeping" it temporarily goes to OFF when you lock the phone. [exception: when not using apps like pandora]. So when you turn the phone back ON, WiFi turns back ON and searches for the AP you were connected to. >> this process of turning OFF, ON, and SEARCHING, requires a more battery power than staying connected. When you are connected the router and phone are exchanging information (packets) on AS needed basis like when we use 3G/2G.
i did try Auto Brightness, its a bit Bright for me, i'm gonna continue to use it for the next few days, see how I like it.
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Thanks for the tips! Though, what are you sources saying that WiFi sleep uses more battery? Auto-brightness does work for me, it is just very slow to make changes and tends to be on the brighter side.
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Auto-brightness seems to be buggy on the software side. The light sensor is very quick to detect changes, but the brightness doesn't drop back once it goes up. I feel that the brightness gets set to full at too low of a light level too. Using a screen protector and case does help a little by blocking some of the light, but it's not enough.
Actually, having GPS on consumes battery even when it is not used. And quite a lot. I have seen mayor battery boost after I started to turn it off when I do not use it. (on G1).
I've done some monitoring with PowerTutor and noticed that the Facebook app significantly drains the G2's battery (even when all features are disabled). If you sign out of it you should notice a 2+ hour increase in your battery life. People in my other thread have confirmed this and I think it might be a bug with facebook 1.3.2. I recommend making a link on your home page to m.facebook.com instead of using the facebook app.
I have also noticed that the e-mail app (NOT G-MAIL), when using Exchange ActiveSync, drains a good bit of battery when used with a Hotmail account (I'm not sure if other exchange servers have this problem or if the problem is in the e-mail app itself). The remedy that I have come up with for this is to make a new G-mail account, set hotmail to forward to it, and then on the gmail website go to Settings-> Accounts and Import and under the Send Mail As: section, add your hotmail account to it and set it as the default.
This way you get g-mail's lightweight mail pushing (which is just as fast as exchange) and it's transparent to you and everyone who has your hotmail address.
Besides those two tips, I recommend using PowerTutor to diagnose any abnormally low battery life issues you may have. My power usage is way down after fixing these two problems. Once in PowerTutor, go to View Application Power Usage, set Time Span to total, disable LCD monitoring, and set Sort By to Energy usage. Reset the power profiler and lock your phone and let it sit idle for about 30 mins to 1 hr, and then look at the application power usage. PowerTutor will probably be the top one, but you should also see what other applications are sapping your battery life.
Note: PowerTutor itself drains battery, so you should not constantly run it. I think it is set to start automatically so you will want to go in to settings and turn that off.
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Its time we need a thread like this to ensure every G2 user is getting the best out of their battery.
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+1 Sticky Please.
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I've done some monitoring with PowerTutor and noticed that the Facebook app significantly drains the G2's battery (even when all features are disabled). If you sign out of it you should notice a 2+ hour increase in your battery life. People in my other thread have confirmed this and I think it might be a bug with facebook 1.3.2. I recommend making a link on your home page to m.facebook.com instead of using the facebook app.
I have also noticed that the e-mail app (NOT G-MAIL), when using Exchange ActiveSync, drains a good bit of battery when used with a Hotmail account (I'm not sure if other exchange servers have this problem or if the problem is in the e-mail app itself). The remedy that I have come up with for this is to make a new G-mail account, set hotmail to forward to it, and then on the gmail website go to Settings-> Accounts and Import and under the Send Mail As: section, add your hotmail account to it and set it as the default.
This way you get g-mail's lightweight mail pushing (which is just as fast as exchange) and it's transparent to you and everyone who has your hotmail address.
Besides those two tips, I recommend using PowerTutor to diagnose any abnormally low battery life issues you may have. My power usage is way down after fixing these two problems. Once in PowerTutor, go to View Application Power Usage, set Time Span to total, disable LCD monitoring, and set Sort By to Energy usage. Reset the power profiler and lock your phone and let it sit idle for about 30 mins to 1 hr, and then look at the application power usage. PowerTutor will probably be the top one, but you should also see what other applications are sapping your battery life.
Note: PowerTutor itself drains battery, so you should not constantly run it. I think it is set to start automatically so you will want to go in to settings and turn that off.
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i think with exchange rather than having the user select the refresh interval (ie 30 mins, 1 hour) the system is a ALWAYS ON connection which constantly checks your e-mail. As oppose to G-Mail..... they as get PUSHED to your phone by google's servers every time you get an e-mail as oppose to an ALWAYS ON system.
There is a lot of hush going on about the facebook app draining the battery... hence I addressed the widget/app parts..... as of now I think we should wait for an update to see how things change, it is a software bug.
Location - Wireless networks=OFF
By turning this off won't you in turn be turning off assisted GPS?
IE - the GPS will not have an approximate location and begin locating from there but will rather have to cycle much further to dial in and take much longer to calculate your position?
Just asking - if you haven't noticed a difference then that's cool.
I also noticed shop savvy was taking up alot of my battery drain. Looks like it was running in the background non stop. I uninstalled it.
Isn't WCDMA the HSPA+ network and CDMA the 3G? I currently have mine set to edge only since the speeds are slow all across the board in my town. Even on the phones down at the tmobile store. Hoping its just a minor tower issue in my area.
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i think with exchange rather than having the user select the refresh interval (ie 30 mins, 1 hour) the system is a ALWAYS ON connection which constantly checks your e-mail. As oppose to G-Mail..... they as get PUSHED to your phone by google's servers every time you get an e-mail as oppose to an ALWAYS ON system.
There is a lot of hush going on about the facebook app draining the battery... hence I addressed the widget/app parts..... as of now I think we should wait for an update to see how things change, it is a software bug.
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Exchange activesync should push email. I had set it to push and hotmail supposively supports this. Even if it doesn't, I tried setting it to polling and it still seemed to use a decent amount of battery life. Anyways something is wrong with activesync pushing.
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i think with exchange rather than having the user select the refresh interval (ie 30 mins, 1 hour) the system is a ALWAYS ON connection which constantly checks your e-mail. As oppose to G-Mail..... they as get PUSHED to your phone by google's servers every time you get an e-mail as oppose to an ALWAYS ON system.
There is a lot of hush going on about the facebook app draining the battery... hence I addressed the widget/app parts..... as of now I think we should wait for an update to see how things change, it is a software bug.
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Exchange uses Activesync, which pushes messages as well. The ongoing sync is for contacts and calendar items which if you do not make a lot of changes, change to off and sync then yourself manually.
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Exchange uses Activesync, which pushes messages as well. The ongoing sync is for contacts and calendar items which if you do not make a lot of changes, change to off and sync then yourself manually.
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I had turned all Syncing off besides mail and it was still eating battery on push mode... just something to keep in mind for Activesync users who are experiencing abnormally low battery life
raqua said:
Actually, having GPS on consumes battery even when it is not used. And quite a lot. I have seen mayor battery boost after I started to turn it off when I do not use it. (on G1).
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GPS ONLY uses battery when it is in use. You will know this because the icon will appear when it is being used. It doesn't use battery just being on. WiFi and Bluetooth do because they have to constantly "keep their eyes open" for things like networks and bluetooth devices that want to pair/communicate.
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I also noticed shop savvy was taking up alot of my battery drain. Looks like it was running in the background non stop. I uninstalled it.
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I noticed this too on other Android phones but not on my G2. It would just show up in Battery Use even though I wasn't using it. If you want to see what is keeping your phone awake you can use the hidden Battery History menu. The "partial wake usage" is usually a big contributor for bad standby times. You could also try changing from WCDMA Preferred to GSM Auto PRL. This helps some people.
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Location - Wireless networks=OFF
By turning this off won't you in turn be turning off assisted GPS?
IE - the GPS will not have an approximate location and begin locating from there but will rather have to cycle much further to dial in and take much longer to calculate your position?
Just asking - if you haven't noticed a difference then that's cool.
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A lot of people have been reporting that this feature as of NOW updates every hour, regardless of which services/apps need it. If you ask me, I haven't noticed any significant amount in the time it takes to get GPS location having that feature turned OFF. If you do a cold start (i.e. restart your phone) than the GPS will take a couple of more seconds to initialize for the first time use. However, from than on everytime you use the GPS it shouldn't take more than 10 seconds to acquire your position.
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I noticed this too on other Android phones but not on my G2. It would just show up in Battery Use even though I wasn't using it. If you want to see what is keeping your phone awake you can use the hidden Battery History menu. The "partial wake usage" is usually a big contributor for bad standby times. You could also try changing from WCDMA Preferred to GSM Auto PRL. This helps some people.
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Could you explain more about this settings, and how would one get to this setting.... If it helps save the battery I'll add it to the list
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Could you explain more about this settings, and how would one get to this setting.... If it helps save the battery I'll add it to the list
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Sure... At the phone menu (must be the native dialer), dial *#*#4636#*#*. Then chose Battery History and you can use the drop downs to control what you view. If you go to "phone information", you can change the preferred network type. Here you can force 3g only, etc. WCDMA Preferred fights to get a 3G signal and keep it. GSM Auto PRL uses a downloaded list to choose whether to use 3G or 2G, thereby saving battery in certain cases.
I am happy to make one.
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My battery tips
1. Latitude : If you are logged in, it will update your location every few minutes. This will make a phone that should be on a very low power state, re-enable lots of things that suck power. (5hrs)
2. Home screen weather clocks : Just change the update interval to something more like every 3 hours and it won't kill your battery as quick. Make sure you don't have it use GPS for location. If you don't mind, set the location to be static. (1hr)
3. Chat programs that don't rely on push. If the program needs to keep your data connection alive, it will kill your battery.(1-5hrs)
4. Anything that will update automatically. The craigslist app for example will poll the site for changes, waking the connection and the processor each time.(1-5hrs)
5. Bluetooth. : I know it isn't an app, but if you aren't using it, don't have it on. It takes enough power to eat a few hours of battery life. Pretty major. (3hrs)
6. Leave 4G on. : This might not work for everyone, but when 4G is asleep, it doesn't seem to suck juice the same way 3G does. My EVO dies quick on 4G, my Epic battery lasts longer on 4G. (as long as you are in a 4G area). (3hrs)
Disable these things and you should get battery life that you hear others bragging about.
"Latitude" on my phone and others I've seen, does not update that often and really only constantly updates is when you have maps open. My wife and I both run latitude and have not noticed anymore of a battery drain than not running it.
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"Latitude" on my phone and others I've seen, does not update that often and really only constantly updates is when you have maps open. My wife and I both run latitude and have not noticed anymore of a battery drain than not running it.
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Mine updates every few minutes on WM and Android. Turn on your history and you will see it updates hundreds of times a day. After my froyo update, I couldn't make it through the day. You might have location set to wifi or wireless, I probably should do that too, but I'd rather keep it active.
I subscribed to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884684
i thought the whole idea of push was that it doesn't use data cause its a server side push instead of the phone polling at a set schedule
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Mine updates every few minutes on WM and Android. Turn on your history and you will see it updates hundreds of times a day. After my froyo update, I couldn't make it through the day. You might have location set to wifi or wireless, I probably should do that too, but I'd rather keep it active.
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Weird, I have history on and the setting to update automatically, and still only updates only once every few hours on it's own. Maybe mine is "broken", but glad it is then. I'm on an htc Incredible.
If you are getting excessive drain while on wifi, check for unusual traffic on your network as the problem is probably not your phone and something else polling your device keeping it awake.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087278
For me, the problem was HP's wireless printer software on one of my laptops.
I'm wondering if one of these 2 is a big sleep preventer:
1. "Background Data" (I used to think all you had to do was disable "Auto Sync" but when I uncheck "Background Data" I get a popup saying something about how I will save battery power if I agree to disable)
2. "Use Wireless Networks" (even if GPS is off).
I usually have been getting good results after unchecking a combo or both of these and sometimes I even have to reboot to get back to normal Epic sleep.
Hi there, I have this problem; my AT&T GS4 does not use the deep sleep state. I have made some research, and from what I understood, this problem has to be a result of any program that keeps triggering the phone to get awake.
So, I have the phone unlocked, rooted and ALL the sensors off, expect from gsm signal. With titanium back I have uninstalled the programs that I´ll never gonna use (mostly AT&T bloadware) and frozen the ones that I don’t want to use right know, but maybe by deleting them I would get into a problem (like S-Voice) or just because some day I would like to give them a try. Finally, there are the programs that I would like to keep, but I don’t want to let them make any cpu use while I am not using them. I used an application called Greenyfi, a good example of why this program is the best for the last propose, is the use of programs like google maps, in where I do want to use it, but, just when I open the app. Also, I used the app “Autostarts” to prevent applications to start after some events (like startup, state change, etc..)
With all that been said, I am steel not getting deep sleep, in any situation. I´am not saying that my battery life is bad, I think I can get easily 4-5 screen time use. But, by not getting into deep sleep, the phone is allways using the cpu at 384mhz, so the battery goes down in a range of 1.5 to 2 % per hour (10 hours of no use and 20% less battery).
SO, for you to see the problem better. I did a little experiment. Restart the phone, put it into flight mode and let it “sleep” for the night, the results are attached.
PD: Whatsapp isn’t the problem; I can froze it and still 0% deep sleep.
PD2: Sorry for the language, I forgot to change it.
Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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ok, I did it, and BBS says that in partial wakelocks there is no major problem (20seg out of 1 hour the worst app). BUT, in kernel wakelocks, shows that "MSM_HSIC_HOST", is using the exact amount of time since the phone was turned on (1 hour). So, it has to be this. I´ve reading a huge thread of many people having a similar problem (mmsm_hsic_host been the process that wakes the phone most, but not using ALL the time, but considerable time (between 50% to 10). I ‘keep reading until I found a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999368
Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??
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Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?
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sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?
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Yes if you have developer mode to stay awake while plugged in and want to turn the screen off at any point just hit the power button to lock/shutoff the screen.
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well the hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc. makes thier app shut down when the phone goes into standby said the tech guy today because it still shut off.
so i suppose i need to prevent standby
ok i got to the bottom of this , hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc.are liars , the tether app auto prevents standby and i also i enabled the developer stay awake optiion. it turns out the application will turn off when no data is being sent for sometime and i have a feeling that it is in their favor for whatever reason otherwise the app would have an option to not shut off
now i was looking into getting termenal_ide to ping google every so often say every 3 or 5 minutes ,
i ran it and it was pinging like a mad man , more then once per second , i though i might get blacklisted for a false ddos