hello,
i wondered if it might be possible to develop an application which enables one to send an sms directly to another phone (running this application)
one may wonder, why i want to do such a thing, but for the better understanding, i will it explain it right here:
i moved to another city two weeks ago and i ordered my phone- and dsl-line at "1&1". 1&1 activated my phoneline and dsl 16000kbit/s connection. additionally they sent me a sim-card for my mobile phone. it enables me to call any fixed line number without any cost. and after a bit of research on the 1&1 website i found, that i can buy a second sim. i would be able to call this sim without any cost, too.
but the sms would be, as everywhere else 19€ct/sms.
so i wondered, if it might be possible to write a windows mobile-software that would be able to send some text directly via the cellular line. without passing the sms-gateway.
i thought of: text-to-tone conversion-software which then calls the other phone, which auto-pickups on certain phone-numbers, and then receives the tone-sequence, and converts it back to readable text.
of cause, the better solution would be to send the text digitally, but i don't even know if that might be possible.
any suggestions and ideas are very welcome.
sorry for my bad english, and sorry for the fact, that i will not be often online, cause my own pc is broken, so i have to go online in school.
greetings
garfield
Wouldn't this be similar to a fax machine?
Not being obnoxious, but it just sounds difficult since SMS is rather just a quick way to send messages from one phone to another. Calling and sending messages via text wouldn't be fast at all. I'd rather just say what I have to say...
i'd say if it was possible it would require both phones to have the program to interp the data recieved as the right type of sms
it's much like the sms over gprs thing
lemme get this straight, this is essentially an analog modem emulator, so not only would "messages" be able to be sent but files could aswell.
Would it also be possible to make "said" communications when your already on a call? that would be cool
Carnivor calls Rudegar on the phone,
Carnivor really says, "Hi Rudegar, im gonna send you that excel file now"
Rudegar really says, "Ok Carn"
you could have a signal that it sent to trigger the other phones running app to be ready to listen for the signal, then handshake and transmit and recieve data,quick ok msg on the screen, or even have it so you get "transfer completed" in the earpiece once completed you can carry on speaking over the phone.
Rudegar really says, "Thanks Carn, this is really good info, chat chat chat
intresting concept!!
you could intergrate "send data" into the phone app skin so when your in a call its easy to start up,
so it'd be good for small file transfer, or a chat app for ppl that have spare minutes to burn and dont mind not being able to make and recieve calls whilst its running.
but it could have its uses
Hi,
yes it seems to be a modem emulator, while being on my way home yesterday i thought about the problem bypassing that gateway... i thought about an own sms-gateway.
anyone has some information on how a sms gateway works? so i could write one and integrate it into my Fritz!Box or run it on my computer. this would enable me to send sms without cost, because calls and connections inside of the 1&1 VoIP network are costless...
the analog modem emulator would be an excellent idea, too... as it would allow to transmit files and "realtime" chat between one or more people.
so, any ideas on the modem emulator and the gateway are apreciated.
greetings
garfield
just Get mxit it doez dat
Get mxit it does what u mean but both phones need have this Client and you need to be online at the same time and if you not it has offline message storage and it doez filesharing to www.mxit.co.za/wap and try smsbug www.smsbug.com
defcomg said:
Get mxit it does what u mean but both phones need have this Client and you need to be online at the same time and if you not it has offline message storage and it doez filesharing to www.mxit.co.za/wap and try smsbug www.smsbug.com
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so mxit is a chatrelay for other instant messaging protocols, and one has to be online via GPRS/3G/UMTS/EDGE ... this produces extra cost and is not exactly the thing i wanted to have.
smssbug is a great alternative, if you're sitting in front of a pc, but no alternative for me, as it also produces cost although this is secondary when talking about 3ct/sms.
what about that "modem" emulation? is there any software out in the internet? i haven't found anything via google.
and the next thing i am thinking about is, if it might be possible to digitalize the phone-to-phone communication. or is it limited to analogoue transmission of data, because of the way it is transported over the network?
i haven't looked into the idea with the sms-gateway, but i will look that up as soon as possible, when i have my internet-connection at home.
greetings
garfield
Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
Code:
[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
I have an issue with application killing. The problem is that on each several hours I have to kill my applications because they start working without me clicking on them. For example, each morning when I woke up I start application killing manager and see that I have ten applications running, which I even don't use at all. They start themselves somehow.
Beside the fact that this problem is quite annoying, I am worried that I will have additional issue in few days when I go abroad and my roaming service provider will charge me heavily for this even small amount of data traffic.
It annoys me, and will have a similar issue when I am in Japan soon. Don't really want to run in Airplane Mode for the entire few weeks unless I there is a WiFi hotspot nearby.
Is there no application to completely prevent data connection without going into airplane mode?
You can just disable Roaming under your network settings.
This will prevent the usage of data when you're roaming.
It is as simple as that.
tomtor said:
You can just disable Roaming under your network settings.
This will prevent the usage of data when you're roaming.
It is as simple as that.
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Thank you I will do that.
But can you tell me why this applications start when no one start them?
An application can register itself to be started automatically. Content provider applications often do this to keep you updated.
There are loads of different events on the phone that can trigger an application to start. A program on the market called "Autostarts" will give you a list of all events and installed applications connected to the event, but it requires root to disable autostarting applications.
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An application can register itself to be started automatically. Content provider applications often do this to keep you updated.
There are loads of different events on the phone that can trigger an application to start. A program on the market called "Autostarts" will give you a list of all events and installed applications connected to the event, but it requires root to disable autostarting applications.
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Note that this is a paid app, and as such won't show up for us poor saps who live in countries Google seems to be ignoring...
that is really bad
I have a stock Tmobile HTC G2 on Android 2.3.4. When I attempt to make a call while connected to a wifi network, I receive this message "No Internet Calling Account". This only happens when my phone is on wifi and it doesn't matter if I have wifi calling enabled or not, I still get this message. I have to disable wifi to actually make a call on this phone now.
For reference, I have two HTC G2's. This particular one doesn't have a data plan, so it stays on wifi. Both phones are stock and running 2.3.4 Android.
I remember the first time I tried to make a call after the upgrade to 2.3.4, it popped up with what program to use for the call. I hit what I thought was the green normal phone one, but then I get a warning message that says "No Internet Calling Account" There are no Internet calling accounts on this phone. Add one now? My choice is Add or cancel. If I choose to add it brings me to a screen to add SIP accounts.
I guess I need to figure out a way to keep this SIP (Internet Calling) from being the "default" setting when dialing out while on Wifi? For reference, my other G2 dials out just fine when wifi is connected and uses Tmobile's network like it should, or I can use the WifI calling. It behaves as it should. On this other phone, neither of those options work on this phone. I have to be off wife to actually dial out. I can receive calls just fine though, even with wifi connected.
No help on this one? Someone has to know what is going on?
Yes...it is pretty simple. I'm at work right now so I can't give you the exact details, but go into Menu > Settings > Phone (I believe it's in the phone tab), scroll to the bottom and there is a segment on Internet Calling. Just uncheck Internet Calling as default for all calls; select it to be used just for Internet Calls. That should solve the problem.
So you have a call plan but not data plan correct?
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Yes...it is pretty simple. I'm at work right now so I can't give you the exact details, but go into Menu > Settings > Phone (I believe it's in the phone tab), scroll to the bottom and there is a segment on Internet Calling. Just uncheck Internet Calling as default for all calls; select it to be used just for Internet Calls. That should solve the problem.
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I had forgot to say I checked yes and yes it was set to ask, but I changed it to only for Internet calls, but still no go. The only other option in there is the "For All Calls".
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So you have a call plan but not data plan correct?
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Correct, I have a normal Calling plan and texting, just no data on this phone. My work provides me with this number, but I'm not good enough to get data.
Anyway, I've been using this phone like that since Dec, and its never been an issue until the upgrade to Gingerbread.
Have you installed an app called voice changer? If so uninstall it and see if that works, it was causing that same issue on my sons phone. You can also try going to settings - apps - manage apps, choose the app named dialer and click clear defaults.
Now we might be getting somewhere. I do have voice changer downloaded. Don't think I've ever used it. Il drop it off and see what happens. Thanks a bunch
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JC, you nailed it. First I went through and reset the default on the dialer which was one of the things I was trying to do, I just couldn't figure out how to do it.
So the next time I attempted to make a call (while connected to wifi) it came up with 2 options to dial out. One was the voice dailer app, and the other was Dialer, but it had (SIP) behind it. That Dialer was the one I hit the first time around and set it to default thinking there is no way I want the default to be the voice changer, but for some reason it only gives you that SIP option. I'm guessing the voice changer is hogging the standard dial out option.
Since it still appeared that I couldn't call out with just the normal dialer, I went ahead and uninstalled that Voice Changer app and that was it. Its back to the way I'm expecting it!
I'm glad you ran into that with your son's phone as you figured out exactly what the issue was. I don't think I have that app on my other phone and that explains why it wasn't experiencing the same thing.
Same issue, but with HTC Desire 600. I did a factory reset, then restored from Google backup. Now I get that message on every phone number.
I can't find those settings or anything, it's Sense 5 and everything is different here. I have no SIP apps or anything installed on phone. please help
As we know setting up the application using the iOS version of Android Wear removes certain features from the smart watch.
I have my LG Ubrane setup with my iPhone and indeed the wifi settings are not in the menu.
It seems that data remains on the filesystem even after a factory reset, when you configure the watch using Android it copies across the wpa_supplicant.conf.
When you reset the device and configure it using the iOS app the files remain so the wifi works, but theres no option to configure the menu.
If you run the following command it will bring the wifi settings into view:
Code:
adb shell am start -n com.google.android.apps.wearable.settings/com.google.android.clockwork.settings.wifi.WifiSettingsActivity
However i cant find a way of having this option enabled in the settings menu.
If setup the device using Android and used TWRP to backup the DATA folder, then setup using iOS and again TWRP to backup the DATA folder. Ive then done a diff but for the life of me I cant see where the settings is being configured. The APK files are the same so there must be a local file dictating whats enabled or not.
So my questions is, where on Android wear is the com.google.android.apps.wearable.settings packing getting its configuration?
Many Thanks
Hope you get this reply, as I have been working on this same thing or similar for a long time. I was able to get the watch to make calls from my iPhone, and the ability to receive and answer calls on the watch. The issue is that the only calls that come through that are answerable with the watch, are numbers that are not in my contact list. I've searched up and down, even got the android wear app on the iPhone to prompt for contacts sync, and the contacts do in fact sync. In the data folder of com.google.android.apps.wearable.settings, if you change the value of "setup skipped" to "1" instead of "2", you get the whole UI, the one you would get with a paired android phone. The same goes with "bluetooth mode" switching to '1" from "2". When either of these are switched, the watch still connects with the iPhone, but does not receive notifications (i.e. text messages, app notifications, etc.) Also, the google voice search stops working, yet you can manually check the weather fine with the weather app on the watch. I am using a jailbroken iPhone, and was able to get permission for contacts sync using the tweak "Flex 2". If you have found out anything new since you posted this, please let me know. Lastly, I was able to get the watch to make calls by having it paired for both BLE and standard bluetooth, so when you look at the list of paired/connected bluetooth devices on my iPhone, my watch shows up twice, both connected at the same time. I was also able to get the input methods (keyboard selection) to show up in settings, but am unable to make it happen again.
Hi,i also have my lg urbane connected to my iphone ,but there are no much things i can do.i cant even make a phone call from the watch.i am using ios 9.2 so i cant jailbreak it to use flex and get some tweaks.so what i want to ask is,if there is a way to make a phone call or even reply to text messages.please reply ,all iphone users want to find a solution for this problem.MAKE ANDROID WEAR
FULLY WORKING WITH IPHONE
This is not an answer!!sorry for the trouble