Hi Guys,
I recently bought my Nexus one this past weekend. I'm coming from a Windows Mobile fan(boy) perspective of many years. Not the hugest linux fan, but at least the base level of Android control is a menu and not "dev cmd etc" command line stuff
I like the Nexus one so far. I tried CompanionLink/gSyncit/Nitrodesk Touchdown/Android-sync(Alpha)/Remember The Milk etc, and they all don't sync Outlook very well..so I'm happy to keep my Winmo phone for its use for that, which is excellent and easier to type imho for that kind of stuff within a windows environment. Kind of like a Palm pilot.
As for Apple. I'm proud to say I've never touched one for years, until yesterday. I *had* to get my father a slidey smartphone as a gift, because they're awesome to see and navigate. Since he's not a big data guy I couldn't justify a nexus one, so a used iphone 3G fit the bill.
Hope i don't have to touch it too much tho!
Anyways, I thought I'd give you guys some history on where I'm coming from as an introduction and seeing as I havent posted on here in a few years.
So..regarding my questions:
*Nandroid backups Question
- A nandroid-ext backup will not occur, and will display the ADB Error if you don't actually have an extended partition on your SD Card, correct?
I was trying to do an Nandroid+ext backup, because noobishly i thought it just meant it would backup everything. It didn't work, and neither did the "plug it in the charger tricks" etc, or check if you have enough sd space. So I figured it was because i didnt actually have an extended SD partition. Stock 4gig micro SD btw.
A NAND backup worked after that.
- How do I check if my SD card has an extended partition btw?
*Sdcard/Nandroid folder Question
Are nandroid backups saved here in a chronological order?
Meaning
/first directory asfldkjsdafjs/
/second directory aslkdfjljds/
First is my stock rom backup?
Second is my Cyanogen backup?
Say I do a third backup (it appears third right)? Will it be my Cyanogen backup *plus* all my added stuff I've done since then? Like widgets, contacts, email account setups?
*ROM Recovery
- So as a noob I'd like to play around a bit. But I'd also like to populate my phone with backgrounds (sd card), contacts, ringtones (sd card), Apps (sd and main mem) etc.
Say I want to move from my current rom (cyanogen 6) to say MUIMUI (sp?) in a week. When I goto Bootloader recovery and select the Muigungui.zip, will it still keep the phone "mine" on restore?
Thanks a lot for your help guys! I hope to join the Nexus One discussions now too after this my first post!
Your Nandroid backups are named by date and time of your backup.
Every backup you make, backups ALL user-accessible partitions on the phone. That includes pretty much EVERYTHING, both system (ROM) and data (everything else). All the rest of your questions have answers logically derived from this statement, please use the required logic.
Your SD card doesn't have anything unless you made it - which is obviously not the case, or previous owner made it - which is also obviously not the case, since you had stock ROM.
Thank you Jack.
I understand better now.
On looking at my sd folder structure, I see:
sdcard/HT096P800012/BCDES-date-4 numbers
Does the HT096P800012 subfolder stay the same, or does nandroid add more HT subfolders in time. (just a curiousity question)
In the 4 numbers part, if I did two backups on 201001103, does the higher number indicate the most latest backup by the logic you describe?
also, some backup folders have nandroid.md5 as a file and some don't. What is that?
Nerdy questions I know. I do thank you for your help?
(PS: If I update my radio with a new one, that doesn't affect my phone proper right?)
The upper folder stays the same - it's the name of your device.
4 numbers are hours and minutes
nandroid.md5 is MD5 sum of the backup, for verification. Not needed for restoring, AFAIK.
Radio doesn't affect your phone in any bad way, as long as it's compatible with your OS (radios for Eclair were different from radios for Froyo), and as long as you're flashing it correctly, without removing the power from the phone when it's in process of flashing.
Thank you so much!
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Hi all...
I've been getting a lot of suspicious errors recently (force closes and app shortcut names disappearing) and I'd like to go from apps2sd back to just a normal setup with my apps on the internal phone storage.
Can somebody please verify that the instructions here are up to date? I'm a little nervous about wiping my data (or bricking my phone).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Apps2SD
Also, can somebody tell me whether doing this will wipe out the (single) app I paid for from the Marketplace? If so, can I redownload it, or will I need to pay for it a second time?
I originally got apps2sd set up by using the recovery ROM prior to flashing Modaco's custom ROM v1.1.
The easiest thing to do would be to load the new RA 1.5.1 recovery image.
Then boot into it.
Go to Partiton SD
Select FAT EXT3 SWAP
and then set the partition sizes of EXT3 and SWAP to 0
Is there a reason you want to do this???
This runs a very very minimal chances of bricking your phone. The other method on that Wiki page has more potential to get you in trouble.
Did see the market place question.
There is a method laying around somewhere to copy all of your apps back to the phone instead of loosing them. Restoring a Nandroid backup would likly put them all back into the /apps/ directory sd card or not. apps2sd just changes the location of that directory really.
But the market does keep track of your google account and what apps you purchase, you wont have to re purchase (maybe on a totaly new handset).
hope my jiberish has made sense
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At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
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At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
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The possibilities of bricking the phone are very slim, but they still exist. If a phone is truly a brick, not even RUU can help. RUU has to be able to detect the phone is there in Windows, so if its beyond that RUU is useless.
Nothing to worry about as long as follow the *usually* very well written step by steps across the interweb.
If it makes you feel any better I have only heard of one or two people to brick the Hero. Most things are recoverable.
Yeah, sorry, I didn't expect it would brick the phone so much as badly mess it up - like if it expects to run apps from the SD card and they aren't there I could see the phone being tough to use as a phone, but it wouldn't really be "bricked" in the sense of not responding to user input at all.
As far as why I want to do this, I haven't really seen a huge need for apps2sd yet, and when I was recently helping an app developer to debug their app it was just one more weird variable that seemed like a possible source of problems. I'm also hoping to start developing apps myself soon, so having a more vanilla phone seems like a good idea. (I also was influenced by the Fresh ROM apps2sd rant, to be honest.)
Anyhow, thanks for your replies. I'll probably repartition the card from RUU and then restore from Nandroid at that point. Will a repartition wipe the card filesystems out, or is the partitioner smart enough to preserve the existing data?
What I did is RUUed back to 1.2, OTA updated to 1.6
Flashed to the 1.5.1 image
(At this point I went to mess with the partitions and there was no ext)
Flashed to Fresh 1.0
Okay so this tip comes from personal experience,k before I figured out how to fic the problem that this one created for me.
So, I did a backup before I flashed a mod someone did earlier. Well, the mod did nto work, and it broke some stuff on the phone, so I wanted to do a restore. That was an absolute no-go. I got this error message:
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So, I got a little worried that I had lots bigger problems. Long story short, I was missing the md5 file that nand creates when it makes a backup.
TIP: When doing a NANDROID backup, verify it's completeness by pressing your "back" key on your phone once the backup is complete. Scroll to USB-MS and select it. This *should* make a box pop up on your computer, meaning that you have access to your SD contents now.
In the SD card, navigate to nandroid/(Hero Serial Number)/XXX-XXXXXXXX-XXXX/ and make sure there is a nandroid.md5 file in there, as well as 3 other files, boot, data, and system.
If any of these are missing, press "Back" hard key to close USB-MS, and do another backup. Delete the current one if you do not have enough room.
The xxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxx above will be a folder, mine's named: BDS-20100523-0334, which is BDS-(year)(mo)(day)-(time). year 4 digits, month 2, day 2, and time 4 digits. If you have multiple ones, choose the most recent one, which would be the nandroid you just made.
Nice tip thanks, I do have a question though.
I thought the whole point of having a recovery in the Hero was to flash roms regardless of what breaks, even nandroid? I mean if your nandroid breaks you can just go into recovery enable usb drive and copy another rom over?
Yeah you should be able to flash any Rom regardless of whether you made a backup or not. I am just saying, its a helpful top to make sure your backup completed properly in case you ever want to go back to your old Rom, in your case, or if you're flashing an update that says will work with any Rom, or your just testing the update, and that update breaks. Same goes with current Rom modifications that you may want to try out.
Long story short, if you know you night need to nandroid backup or want to restore if you're just testing something, be sure to follow the tip above. One more step to save you problems.
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Hi guys!
I bought a Nexus 7 a few days ago, This is my first Android device, my first tablet and my first attempt at rooting anything. so I was hoping for some help from the experienced folks because frankly i don't know what I'm doing I was hoping you could help me with a sort of beginners guide for rooting, like what i should look out for, whats the safest and easiest toolkit, rom, kernel to use. I know i have so much to learn from you guys and I've been reading some of the threads and im starting to get a bit of it already just asking for a step by step of what i should do im mainly going to use my tablet for torrents, games, and some light photo editing and lots of comics! so how do i start? hope to hear from you guys soon THANKS IN ADVANCE!
For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
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For rooting the tablet ..its safe ,the important thing is to follow the instructions .so to root it you can use one of the toolkits in the development section,I preferred wugfresh toolkit more ..but its up to you the other one is also good ... Here's a video which explains the root procedure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI0_ylxyrWA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
btw update your phone before rooting it
And for flashing Roms there are a lots of guides on how to do it..just use Google
If you got stuck in any boot loops just use the toolkit you first used, to restore to stock or restore with a nandroid backup
Most important thing when you root. before touching a file ..do a nandroid backup in recovery to always stay safe ..
That's it enjoy the forums
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well said, but here are some more tips: DO NOT PANIC!! when something goes wrong, which is likely, as you are a newbie to rooting, one thing you must not do is panic. calm down and troubleshoot, what did i do wrong? how do i fix it? and according to my experience, whenever a door slams shut behind you, a new window opens. if one method doesn't work, try another method.
also, read through the entire procedure list before start doing the steps. make sure you understand what is required and how to do it before accidentally doing something stupid. believe me, its happened to me b4, not a pleasant experience when you realise you dont actually meet the criteria to install something. btw, here is a list of common names given to the nexus 7: Nexus 7 (duh!), N7, grouper (wifi only) Tilapia (wifi+3g)
good luck rooting!
Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device.
OK, rooting. To try and keep you safe while you are a noob, I'll give this recommendation:
If you see the word "flash" (verb) near the word "bootloader", RUN AWAY!.
The most dangerous thing you can do to an N7 is mess around with the bootloader. You can turn your device into a useless object by getting things wrong, and it is a little bit rare that you need to flash a bootloader anyway. You have been warned.
So, make sure you know the difference between bootloader and "boot partition".
Most Android devices have a single flash memory chip in them which is divided up into a number of partitions. There are 5 principal partitions and about the same number of less frequently used partitions:
THE 5 PRINCIPAL ANDROID PARTITIONS:
(B) boot - a raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(B) recovery - another raw blob of binary data containing a "kernel" and a "ramdisk"
(F) system - The "ROM" part of Android - all the factory (or customized) software, used read-only
(F) data - User data and customizations. A "factory reset" simply erases all the files here
(F) cache - a scratch area used for downloading files and other maintenance operations
B = binary, bootable
F = Filesystem
Now, the two bootable partitions - boot and recovery - are very similar in structure, but extremely different in purpose. (In fact, in stock devices, they both use a private copy of the same kernel) The "boot" partition can produce a UI (User Interface) after it starts up only in conjunction with healthy /system and /data filesystems containing the Android software. But the "recovery" partition can produce a minimal UI even if the /data and /system filesystems are completely empty of files; so it (the recovery boot) is used to do all maintenance operations - including things like installing new /system software or erasing all user data.
So, and Android "rooter" will usually replace the very minimal (and locked-down-security) stock recovery partition with a "custom recovery" that is more friendly, and the vast amount of the "flashing" operations will take place using this custom recovery.
When people talk about "ROMs", they generally mean only TWO of those five partitions mentioned above: the "boot" partition and the "system" partition. When a "ROM" is flashed using the system partition, the usual procedure is:
- The rooter makes a full Nandroid backup.
- The rooter performs a "factory reset" procedure which erases the /data*** and /cache filesystems
- The rooter then "flashes a ROM", which puts in place a new boot partition, erases the /system partition, and then re-populates the /system partition with changed Android system software.
Upon booting an Android phone/tablet after this procedure, the device will behave as if it just came from the factory - but now with a different custom version of Android software. Note that this means that all the things you customized in the previous ROM - wallpapers, settings, home screen app icons, widgets, market apps downloaded, etc - will all be gone. So, folks that make a habit of hopping from ROM to ROM generally have some tricks up their sleeves for making the re-customization of a freshly-installed ROM a little less tedious. (Things like using custom launchers that allow you to save homescreen customizations, apps to restore previously-used market apps & their data, etc, etc, etc)
*** there is some funny business with Android devices that have no removable SDcard storage devices such as the Nexus 7 - the user's "SD card" is emulated, and the files that are stored there are actually stored in the /data filesystem. So, custom recoveries usually have a "factory reset" procedure which deletes all files in /data while scrupulously avoiding erasing things in this /sdcard area ( == /data/media ). This allows you to keep things safe from wiping (pictures, music, ROM files, backups) while still installing a fresh and un-initialized ROM. Note that the stock recovery in the N7 does not do this - when you use the "factory reset" of the stock recovery, EVERYTHING in /data gets erased - everything!
While you are reading about Android, here are some questions/searches to look up that concern rooting activities... have fun!
- What is the difference between grouper/tilapia (or nakasi/nakasig )?
- What does it mean to "install a new launcher" or "install a new home app"?
- What is Android fastboot used for?
- What is the Android ADB (Android Device Bridge) program used for?
- What is the difference between a boot image and a bootloader?
- How do I go about making a Nandroid Backup?
- What are the Carbon and Titanium Backup apps for? What can they do?
- What file browsers on the market are "root aware"?
- What Android settings can be saved by the Google Play Store, and automatically restored into a new ROM?
- Is there a difference between the "Superuser" and "SuperSU" root kits?
- What are the special Hardware Button Combinations used by the Nexus 7?
- What is the Google Android SDK?
- What custom recoveries are available for the Nexus 7?
- How many unique operating modes does the Nexus 7 bootloader display? What are they called?
- What is a MD5 signature? How can it help me stay out of trouble?
- What does soft-booting a bootable image with fastboot do?
- How many (Windows PC) drivers are needed to use ADB (with both the custom recovery and also the regular OS) and fastboot (with the bootloader), 2 or 3?
- Suppose I soft-brick my N7 - how will I transfer files to and from the N7 in this situation?
- What is the difference between adb push/pull and adb sideload?
- What does "sideloading an app" mean?
- Is an Android ".apk" file the same thing as a .zip file, or different?
- In what folder in /data are market apps (.apk files) found? Same question for /system and system apps (.apk files)?
- How do I enable the developer options on my N7 tablet?
- What are the limitations of MTP or PTP file transfer modes?
- Where does the custom recovery tool store backups?
- Are the Android tools "adb" and "fastboot" available for Mac or Linux?
- What are the limitations of the Google Factory Images for the Nexus 7? How are they installed?
- I have a problem using the recovery. Where is the log file stored?
- What is the big stumbling block involved in unlocking the N7 bootloader?
- What operations can you perform using fastboot and the bootloader which you can not do any other way?
OK, that's enough for now.
Thanks Everyone!
bftb0 said:
Read through the stickied threads and try to understand them. It won't happen right away though; your head will probably spin the first couple of times through.
There is really no "overnight" learning curve to this stuff - even if you are an old hand with Linux/Unix.
BTW, it is important to point something out: There should be no reason for you to feel like you should be in a hurry to root. The N7 is a fantastic device, even when used in a pure stock experience.. You are not going to be missing out by not rooting immediately. Spend some time with your device getting used to the Android way of doing things, and start reading XDA with a relaxed frame of mind. There is plenty of time. It would be different if you have lots of prior Android experience - but you said it - this is your first Android device..
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I do appreciate everyones input! yeah i think ill make do with the stock for a couple weeks while i study up on rooting and firmwares. well the main reason i wanted to root was for the games, as much as i want to buy the games i like, i dont have the means to
This is great. Wish I had been fortunate enough to have such great help when I first started.
And the most important rule is the one about reading before you root or flash. This will save you some heartache down the road.
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How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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BigJoey010 said:
How's rooting related to games ? You mean overclocking ?
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sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down
No it doesn't ...i be downloaded tons of games(torrents) and I'm on stock and they are working normally
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sad to say i will have to torrent my games as much as i wanna pay and support the game devs i already blew all my money on steam and buying the N7. ive read somewhere that if u are using the the stock version and you try to run a torrented game it automatically shuts down
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All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
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All the help you were given....then you bring this up.
I doubt further help will come your way as pirating software is very much frowned upon at xda.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....
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i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get
UrbabBear said:
i never really liked pirating software...believe me im a huge fan of steam and i practically buy alll my games legit for the pc.. since steam wallet codes are available at a local store here.. okay i promise i wont pirate and ill try to look for the means to buy from the google store , the thing is i dont have a credit card... and i dont know if google has have something equivalent to steam wallet cards for the google play store.. i could borrow a cc and pay for it.. but is the google play store a safe place to purchase ? i nkow some people disputing alot of charges from google play to everyone, i meant no disprespect.. i was thinking along the lines of test the game if there is no lite version, then when i can i will buy the game :< im still new to the whole tablet arena and im gonna need all the help that i can get
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a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.
Billchen0014 said:
a good way to get started is to get yourself a prepaid credit card from 7eleven and use that for purchases from the play store.
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as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!
UrbabBear said:
as much as that service would be convenient its not available in my country thanks! i hope somebody brings it here ... i found a workaround already now just a matter of saving up for the good apps! so in the mean time lite versions here i come!
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http://play.google.com/about/giftcards/ use this to see if any retailers near you sell.
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Hey guys, what do you think are the most basic and necessary apps that i should get ? running on stock
, ive checked some and go a file manager
If you think you are going to root down the road...
If you think there is a good chance that you are going to root down the road, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader in the near future. You'll need to do this and it wipes everything on the tablet. Even if you don't root, there's isn't any major downside to having the bootloader unlocked and you can always relock it later.
It's better to do that before you've put a lot of time into customizing your tablet to perfection and then have to redo it all.
I have a kinda complex problem with this device.
Someone called me last night scared because she (kinda) deleted an entire messages thread from the phone ( SMS ) and it was an accident.
Now, she really need those messages because of a juridic case. Is there any way to recover old messages that were deleted from that thread ?
I tried to recover with EaseUS mobile Data Recovery, which (for desktop version) i used in the past for other laptops and Desktops to recover deleted files or formatted disks, but with phones, it requires me Root. I recently Rooted my HTC device and this process "wipe" whole data from your phone. As i know, Windows Kernel and Linux Kernel (the one used in Android OS too) have the same file management system, so the point is, this "Wipe" what actually does with MBR ? It hard format the disk, or it just modify MRB's File Table by deleting it's references pointers to files ? A hard format (switching every single bit to 0 from where MBR ends, all the way to the end of the partition) takes a lot of time, especially in these smartphones, because they have a lot slower storage speeds, and on my HTC device, this process took like 1-2 seconds so i hardly can imagine that actually it deletes the data, so with the MBR's mechanism in mind, i really take this in consideration to root the phone and use that software to recover that thread.
My main concern is that, i don't really know what file shall i restore. If these SMSes are stored into a database, when a thread is deleted, the phone can simply "drop records"... i mean, it can simply delete records from the tables, and tables being stored in a database as a single file, ell, and they are gone... for good in this case scenario....
The only way i think i will act if someone confirm that this is the way to recover it, i will restore every single file of the phone that was deleted before accident happen and i will look for SMS database to be modified a day after the thread was deleted. Is this the good way, i'm about to do a pointless action by rooting this device?
I have to mention, the thread is now created again, have 3 new mesages with that person, but there were like 1k+ in that thread before... so, how to recover them?
Thank you in advance for any information.
The following is the latest version of TWRP compiled for the T-mobile V10 Model H901.
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850501883
MD5SUM: b89d341cd61da31a5348d8f6b3c75c97
The heavy lifting was done by the twrpbuilder project who were generous enough to compile TWRP for our device. They also provide their services to see TWRP is available for devices that don't yet have it. I've personally used this version to do a backup and restore but can't guarantee there won't be issues. If there are while you are still in twrp you should go to the advanced section and copy the log to your external sd card. This log will help them diagnose any issues.
The project is located at: https://twrpbuilder.github.io
Their XDA thread is located here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/twrpbuilder-t3744253
If you already have TWRP installed installation is as follows: Click Install, choose Image file, navigate to where the TWRP img file is located on your external sdcard and flash that img to the recovery partition. Back out to the root dir and you can select reboot then recovery...it should bounce you right back into recovery and you should see the new version loaded. If you have root in the rom and run into issues the app "flashify" can reflash TWRP 3.0 so make sure you also have it's img available.
This is pretty much only for folks who already have twrp to update to the latest. If you are on nougat you are still stuck until an exploit is released that works for nougat the way dirtycow did for marshmallow and below. *update* an exploit to give root to nougat users is now available thanks to @runningnak3d here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-h901-nougat-t3773942
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The following is the latest version of TWRP compiled for the T-mobile V10 Model H901.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=8180705828505018
MD5SUM: b89d341cd61da31a5348d8f6b3c75c97
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Looks to me like that URL should read
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850501883
[ EDIT ] Yup, confirmed.. The URL I listed works fine.
Thanks for the file!
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Looks to me like that URL should read
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850501883
[ EDIT ] Yup, confirmed.. The URL I listed works fine.
Thanks for the file!
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You are correct. For some reason a few characters got truncated. I've corrected the url in post #1.
famewolf said:
The following is the latest version of TWRP compiled for the T-mobile V10 Model H901.
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850501883
MD5SUM: b89d341cd61da31a5348d8f6b3c75c97
The heavy lifting was done by the twrpbuilder project who were generous enough to compile TWRP for our device. They also provide their services to see TWRP is available for devices that don't yet have it.
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Just as an aside, this version seems to correct (mostly) the date issue of previous TWRP versions for the V10. Versions before this one used to generate a default date (folder name) for the backup dating back to the 1970s as I recall.
This one has the correct month and day and time and the year is only 1 off - it showed 2017 on my very quick attempt to play with it.
One additional note to those installing it via TWRP itself - after selecting image flash , MAKE SURE you specify RECOVERY partition, not BOOT! Specifying BOOT will most likely have some less than desirable results.. :laugh:
NYLimited said:
Just as an aside, this version seems to correct (mostly) the date issue of previous TWRP versions for the V10. Versions before this one used to generate a default date (folder name) for the backup dating back to the 1970s as I recall.
This one has the correct month and day and time and the year is only 1 off - it showed 2017 on my very quick attempt to play with it.
One additional note to those installing it via TWRP itself - after selecting image flash , MAKE SURE you specify RECOVERY partition, not BOOT! Specifying BOOT will most likely have some less than desirable results.. :laugh:
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I've passed on the date issue. Uncertain if he'll generate another build though.
famewolf said:
I've passed on the date issue. Uncertain if he'll generate another build though.
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Seems that either nobody is using this version or nobody knows about it or they just have nothing to say..
Anyway, as you know, I have spent a fair amount of time recently working with this and installing it. A couple of observations that may be worth noting..
I double checked and I did set a screen timeout on TWRP. Previous versions would first, dim the screen, followed by turning it off completely. If you had the device near you on a desk while backing up the screen lighting up again when TWRP completed was a sure signal that it was finished.
This version of TWRP dims the screen but the screen is never turned off completely. A minor annoyance I suppose but something is different from previous versions.
During the /data partition backup I noted a (to me) new display in yellow: "Backups of data do not include any files in internal storage such as pictures or downloads"
Seriously? Is this something new? Certainly the display is but I always kinda relied on all that being backed up with /data and having the ability to restore them. This is a more serious issue for me which may make me consider going backward..
Thoughts?
NYLimited said:
Seems that either nobody is using this version or nobody knows about it or they just have nothing to say..
Anyway, as you know, I have spent a fair amount of time recently working with this and installing it. A couple of observations that may be worth noting..
I double checked and I did set a screen timeout on TWRP. Previous versions would first, dim the screen, followed by turning it off completely. If you had the device near you on a desk while backing up the screen lighting up again when TWRP completed was a sure signal that it was finished.
This version of TWRP dims the screen but the screen is never turned off completely. A minor annoyance I suppose but something is different from previous versions.
During the /data partition backup I noted a (to me) new display in yellow: "Backups of data do not include any files in internal storage such as pictures or downloads"
Seriously? Is this something new? Certainly the display is but I always kinda relied on all that being backed up with /data and having the ability to restore them. This is a more serious issue for me which may make me consider going backward..
Thoughts?
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I use my v10 as my backup phone now. On my HTC U11 life when I make a nandroid it shows that it is not backing up files on internal storage. I think this is normal now on the latest version of twrp.
NYLimited said:
Seems that either nobody is using this version or nobody knows about it or they just have nothing to say..
Anyway, as you know, I have spent a fair amount of time recently working with this and installing it. A couple of observations that may be worth noting..
I double checked and I did set a screen timeout on TWRP. Previous versions would first, dim the screen, followed by turning it off completely. If you had the device near you on a desk while backing up the screen lighting up again when TWRP completed was a sure signal that it was finished.
This version of TWRP dims the screen but the screen is never turned off completely. A minor annoyance I suppose but something is different from previous versions.
During the /data partition backup I noted a (to me) new display in yellow: "Backups of data do not include any files in internal storage such as pictures or downloads"
Seriously? Is this something new? Certainly the display is but I always kinda relied on all that being backed up with /data and having the ability to restore them. This is a more serious issue for me which may make me consider going backward..
Thoughts?
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On your last issue this is business as usual...twrp has NEVER backed up the internal SDCARD unless you selected the sdcard entry in the list of sections to be backed up. DCIM (pictures) and the Downloads folder/dir have never been included.
As to the dimming, you can check in settings to see if something can be configured however each person compiling twrp can set their own options as to how they want it to function. There is no guarantee or expectation that Person B is going to use the same options as Person A. You are of course free to compile your own copy configured the way you would prefer it to behave but the process was enough of a pain in the butt I just requested twrpbuilder to generate one as I kept getting errors. The process to compile it also appears poorly documented.
sabresfan said:
I use my v10 as my backup phone now. On my HTC U11 life when I make a nandroid it shows that it is not backing up files on internal storage. I think this is normal now on the latest version of twrp.
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I kinda suspected that but that is, at best, a questionable choice since I don't even have the option to check or uncheck a selection for it. Not happy..
famewolf said:
On your last issue this is business as usual...twrp has NEVER backed up the internal SDCARD unless you selected the sdcard entry in the list of sections to be backed up. DCIM (pictures) and the Downloads folder/dir have never been included.
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Not quite. INTERNAL is not the SD Card. Internal is emulated sd on /0. In TWRP if you tap select storage, for example, you can pick "internal" or "SD" for backup destination, as one example.
I keep a fair number of things in /Download - things I grab in my travels, things I save there for later use.. whatever. I'll have to device a Tasker module or something for copying all those to the actual SD card...
NYLimited said:
I kinda suspected that but that is, at best, a questionable choice since I don't even have the option to check or uncheck a selection for it. Not happy..
Not quite. INTERNAL is not the SD Card. Internal is emulated sd on /0. In TWRP if you tap select storage, for example, you can pick "internal" or "SD" for backup destination, as one example.
I keep a fair number of things in /Download - things I grab in my travels, things I save there for later use.. whatever. I'll have to device a Tasker module or something for copying all those to the actual SD card...
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A fairly recent app/utility created by @kdrag0n called Tipatch brings a long-needed resolution to the table regarding "full backups" of Data using TWRP. In a nutshell, Tipatch installs to your Android device as a basic APK. Within the simple GUI, once root permissions are granted (In-Place Patching) Tipatch will decompile, patch, recompile and flash the patched TWRP to /recovery, effectively patching your TWRP build to backup the contents of Internal Storage (emulated SD card) as part of Data itself, so that backups will now include those Internal Storage contents such as downloads, photos, videos, game data, and other various files. I've tried it on this particular build of TWRP and it works without any issues. There are options to patch TWRP without root permissions as well. There are Windows, Mac & Linux versions available too. If you are patching TWRP on a device with an A/B partitioning scheme, the patched TWRP can be installed on both A & B using a one-click option. Of course, one insurmountable caveat to patching TWRP with Tipatch is that wiping Data now will also wipe Internal Storage (emulated SD card). In short, the utility works on pretty well all device types and chipset platforms (Exynos, Kirin, Snapdragon, MediaTek, etc.). The latest Tipatch update, v1.6, includes support for TWRP builds that use LZMA compression, and removes the now-misleading notification previously listed when backing up Data -- that Internal Storage (/data/media/ path / emulated SD card) contents are not backed up. Anyway guys, here is a link to the Tipatch Discussion & Support thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-twrp-tipatch-backup-internal-t3831217
The latest Tipatch v1.6 app is also available on the Play Store and many other app & apk repos for Android. Versions for Windows, Mac and Linux can be downloaded using the above link.