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How to backup and sucessfull restore HD?

I did a short search but didnt find a good guide for this (probaly exist but i have short time now to do futher search)
so here goes my question
I had some problems lately on HD so i want to hard reset it for the first time
to make it work good
What should i use to easy backup the HD i heard about Sprite but i also read someone says it screwed their phone when restoring so is sprite best for backup?
What i want to back up is:
- some programs so i dont have to install them again
- The analog manila clock i tweaked (something like 0d26c504_manila i put inside windows in hd)
- The touch flo teme
- The wallpapers (They not saved on the sdcard)
- Contact list
- Calculator skin
- Opera favorites
So what program do i use
I downloaded the sprite version and already did a backup with it
but i dont even know if im using the right version i just downloaded some random version on the web installed it on Hd and did a backup of all except the Sd card.
But if i was to HARD RESET the phone i guess Sprite program also be viped so then how do i restore the backup if is wiped?
Anyone can help in the best way to do my first backup and restore
thanks

There is also another way more detailed in the wiki.
Wouldn't recommend this unless you know what you are doing though.
Link here

try Spb Backup, can do a partial/full backup and restore..works fine...

calcop said:
try Spb Backup, can do a partial/full backup and restore..works fine...
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Questions:
1. once backed up how do i restore if Spb backup also get wiped when hardreset?
2. Should i install Spb backup on the Sdcard
3. When i tried run Spb backup and do Full backup i get "estimating" instead of it display the size of the backup why?
4. Will i have to install again the programs i installed on SDCARD? (if so then next time i install them on the phone instead)
5. If i had some minor problems with the phone should i not backup the system data?

Coolvibes said:
Is Spb Backup v2.0.0 good to use?
and once backed up how do i restore if Spb backup also get wiped when hardreset?
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1. Install spb backup
2. make te backup (to the micro sd)
3. hard reset or update rom or whatever
4. install spb backup
5. restore backup

martjah said:
1. Install spb backup
2. make te backup (to the micro sd)
3. hard reset or update rom or whatever
4. install spb backup
5. restore backup
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Thanks, Ok i see the backup is saved to the Sdcard so when i Install Spb backup again i just point it to the backed up file stored on sdcard
thats excelent.
But in my situation (and considering i had some errors on HD so i hard reseting it) should i do a fullback up or a personalize
and if i do a personalize of the system files
should i exclude backup databases and registry and only backup system files and the rest?
I do want to backup the Manila analog clock and the touch flo theme i tweaked most important.

Personally I prefer SPB Backup, straight forward, plus its slightly cheaper than Sprite

I tried a full backup with Spb backup now
i got some error on some files that refused to read
files like Picturemate files with .bpsd extensions
stylus .bpsd files
a bunch of manila files saved under /windows/MACOSX
and finaly:
unable to open database
OID=0x40406000
and
backup file is too lage for self-extracting file, a stand-alone restorer will be put in the same directory
Are this files important?
or is my backup correct?

Sorry to have to ask another question this is very important
If i choose custum backup and uncheck some system files
after a hard-reset and after running restore in spb backup will the restore simple just overwrite the files i choosed to restore and leave intact the newly default files from the hard-reset, or if i uncheck important system files (important for the HD to work not important to backup for me) will it means the wmobile os will not work well because is missing file?
I think is the first thing that by unchecking some files it simply just not overwrite the default files, because default files already is there after hard-reset and wont get wiped unless i over-write them by spb backup right?
Just want to be sure
Also is there any files that is not nessesary at all to backup if using custum mode.
And what files in custum i have to backup if i realy want back up of:
- The analog manila clock i tweaked (something like 0d26c504_manila i put inside windows in hd)
- The touch flo teme
- The wallpapers (They not saved on the sdcard)
- Calculator skin
This 4 are realy the most important for me to backup
a bit of a noob question but is my first time doing backup

I've been through this process a few times recently.
The way I've done it:
1) Run SPB Backup and do a full backup.
- The error messages are similar to mine, they can usually be ignored. I've not seen the database error yet, but try running the back up again just in case.
2) once the backup is complete, do your hard reset.
3) Setup up the phone for the first time again, screen configurations etc. Then run the backup_xxxxxxx.exe app on your storage card. The x's with be replaced with the date it was created.
4) do a full restore. Your phone should now be back to the way it was before the hard reset including themes and installed apps.
Thats how it worked for me anyway where I've been switiching between different ROMS!

martjah said:
1. Install spb backup
2. make te backup (to the micro sd)
3. hard reset or update rom or whatever
4. install spb backup
5. restore backup
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Actually, no need to install SPB AGAIN. If you installed it in your microSD (with so little space in the device, no reason why you wouldn't) its still there, the backup is a .exe file. So after the hard reset, just use file explorer and locate your backup file and run it.
Surprisingly most third party installed apps in the microSD still works except the games...just by locating them using fileExplorer in the program files folder of the microSD.
HTH

This DOES NOT work!
(Well for me anyway)
I did a full back up, updated to Duttys new ROM, then restored
Unfortunately it restored everything - including all the manila files and registry changes. When I went into the device information, it was telling my I had ROM v1.9b, not v2.1 that I'd installed

harrispo said:
This DOES NOT work!
(Well for me anyway)
I did a full back up, updated to Duttys new ROM, then restored
Unfortunately it restored everything - including all the manila files and registry changes. When I went into the device information, it was telling my I had ROM v1.9b, not v2.1 that I'd installed
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I have had this same issue. I believe this is a bug. You should still have V2.1 installed.
Did you check device information before you restored everything?

harrispo said:
This DOES NOT work!
(Well for me anyway)
I did a full back up, updated to Duttys new ROM, then restored
Unfortunately it restored everything - including all the manila files and registry changes. When I went into the device information, it was telling my I had ROM v1.9b, not v2.1 that I'd installed
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Err did the backup file had 2.1 as the rom during that process or 1.9b? If you back up your DEVICE having 1.9b, then you installed 2.1 and run the back up again, i think its pretty obvious it will revert everything that the backup file had (which is the 1.9b)
I think its more useful for those who are eager to install 3rd party apps, crashes their phone and no choice but to do a hard reset. After a hard reset, no need to install everything again. It is NOT supposed to work like u have a backup of a previous rom and apps, then install a new rom and run the backup and expect ONLY the apps to get restored.
Anyway, we all know that custom roms like dutty's (great work by the way!) are not tested to work properly with 3rd party apps since he did mention that he didn't like installing too much 3rd party apps. But ofcourse, we want some of these and that in our phone and we want this custom rom too, so my tip is to install like 2-3 apps first, test then if it doesn't cause any error with the rom, then do a backup. then when u encounter an error like mine, (TF3D failed to load even on a soft reset) I was forced to do a hard reset... But w/o installing spb again, i just searched for my .exe file using file explorer, run it then all gud working apps are back again.

kieboy said:
Err did the backup file had 2.1 as the rom during that process or 1.9b? If you back up your DEVICE having 1.9b, then you installed 2.1 and run the back up again, i think its pretty obvious it will revert everything that the backup file had (which is the 1.9b).
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Restoring a backup from SPB Backup 2 will not revert you to a previously flashed ROM. This can only be done by re-flashing. It will just restore your apps and settings. You will still be on ROM 2.1. Check the Splash screen when you hot reset the phone.
EDIT
It may well be that SPB backup is also restoring the text that you are seeing in the device information page. This does not mean that the previous ROM has also been restored.
My device is showing the same behaviour. I am running Dutty's Extreme 2.1 ROM and have restored apps and settings from my previous Extreme 1.9 ROM. My device information is displaying Extreme 1.9 even though I have V2.1 installed.
Hope this is clear.

I stand corrected great find indeed. well there you have it folks, time to flash and restore backup

Fallen Spartan said:
Restoring a backup from SPB Backup 2 will not revert you to a previously flashed ROM. This can only be done by re-flashing. It will just restore your apps and settings. You will still be on ROM 2.1. Check the Splash screen when you hot reset the phone.
EDIT
It may well be that SPB backup is also restoring the text that you are seeing in the device information page. This does not mean that the previous ROM has also been restored.
My device is showing the same behaviour. I am running Dutty's Extreme 2.1 ROM and have restored apps and settings from my previous Extreme 1.9 ROM. My device information is displaying Extreme 1.9 even though I have V2.1 installed.
Hope this is clear.
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Thank you Mr Spartan. I will now flash to my heart's giddy content

I've been reading this thread with interest as yesterday I flashed my first ROM - Dutty 2.1 - and I can really see why people love what these geniuses are doing with their cooked ROMs.
Now I want to play around with other ROMs so I'm going to get spbbackup but just a quick question:
ROMs like Dutty's have updated calculators, dialers, calendar etc. If I start from shipped HD ROM with my favorite apps installed and do a backup, then install a cooked ROM (e.g. Dutty 2.1) and do a restore, will the calculator, dialer etc. be replaced with the old ones becasue they are "apps"?
Or, can I selectively choose which apps to backup in spb?
Thanks
Newton.

Should be clear to you all by now that if one backups system files these will be restored to the new ROM. Its a feature, but of course only useful when reverting back to the very same ROM the backup was made from.
That is why Sprite Backup 6.5 which I use offers three restore levels 1) system, programs, personal data 2) programs, personal data 3) only personal data
On top of that, one can choose which programs should be restored. Because if you installed apps that modified the old Manila, and restore them to the new Manila problems will arise as well.
With these precautions Backup/Restore over new ROMs will be a pleasant experience.

Backing up for Rom Upgrade

I know when I was using the myTOUCH 3g there was an option to backup all my files settings of that nature with nandroid, is there something similar? Or will it just wipe it all off and have to do all the settings n etc?
Just flashed the n spl for the TMOUS

If you are flashing a new rom then it will wipe everything out. Save you PIM data with PIMBackup or similar program, contacts and emails should be okay when you re sync. You will have to reload any programs as well you have put on.
Not sure you would want to save registry settings etc from one rom to another as they may not be applicable to the new rom and cause you more issues than you would want.

InRBigness said:
If you are flashing a new rom then it will wipe everything out. Save you PIM data with PIMBackup or similar program, contacts and emails should be okay when you re sync. You will have to reload any programs as well you have put on.
Not sure you would want to save registry settings etc from one rom to another as they may not be applicable to the new rom and cause you more issues than you would want.
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Ok thanks, another question, if installing a new rom wipes it how does PIM backup? Does it do it to the SDCard?

djdant said:
Ok thanks, another question, if installing a new rom wipes it how does PIM backup? Does it do it to the SDCard?
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it saves the backup database to wherever you tell it to.
Save it among my documents and it will be synched via activesync.
Save it to SD and it will be ready to be restored after flash.
Pimbackup only saves PIM tho, that is contacts/calendar/sms/call records

ephestione said:
it saves the backup database to wherever you tell it to.
Save it among my documents and it will be synched via activesync.
Save it to SD and it will be ready to be restored after flash.
Pimbackup only saves PIM tho, that is contacts/calendar/sms/call records
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Alright thanks, its been a while since i used an WinMO device thanks for all your help

SPB backup will save all your contacts, email accounts etc.
You can save it to the Storage Card.
After you install new ROM, install SPB backup and restore
your contacts and whatever else you saved with it.
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sdCard replace & backup?

Hi,
i want to change my µSD-Card but don't want to loose all my messages and call-history, etc.
so is it possibile to:
1. make a backup of my actual WP-Status (e.g. with this tool)
2. Change µSD-Card
3. play back the backup
?!? ^^
or are there any other chances to keep my personal stuff

0hrpheus said:
Hi,
i want to change my µSD-Card but don't want to loose all my messages and call-history, etc.
so is it possibile to:
1. make a backup of my actual WP-Status (e.g. with this tool)
2. Change µSD-Card
3. play back the backup
?!? ^^
or are there any other chances to keep my personal stuff
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Impossible.. sorry.
After you replaced your sd, you need to have to hard reset your phone. and all the data will be erased from your SD and phone

so the backup does not includes messages etc.?

0hrpheus said:
so the backup does not includes messages etc.?
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yeah it will backup the messages.. but it saves the backup to your SD, and you can only use your SD in you'r phone and it's not usable in you'r pc

There are programs that create a complete backup of your phone. google is your friend

dr.know said:
There are programs that create a complete backup of your phone. google is your friend
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They only work if you replace the uSD with the same size. I upgraded to a 32GB card and my 8GB backup just wouldn't copy.
As much as i think people should 'google' before they ask, it might help if you 'googled' before you answered...

[Q] What do i have to backup before changing rom?

Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?

I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.

paulo_andre said:
I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.
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I want a full back up; calendars sms call logs applications data system data etc. For sms i use go-sms backup, i hope it will restore without any problem. When i backup with cwm and restore, will my settings (system( be protected as before?

With CWM if you restore you will get all data, including Rom, Kernel, sms, calls, etc All you data that is in internal memory. Don't worry. If you restore it, you will get the phone like it was when you made the backup.

Titanium capabilities
I was wondering if it is possible to backup app (with their data), sms and contacts....all in one go using Titanium (non-pro version) (I think we call it batch backup)? I am totally new to the ROOTING and CUSTOM ROM worlds and I am literally freaking out with all the huge info on this topic on the internet. I am using a CM10 on I9000. Please help!

Yes i wonder too.

Boot in recovery
select backup to ext sd
run...
you have back up everythin like ghost in pc....
( so you can try another rom and if you dont like it restore your back up and you have you old rom
working with all data app contacts etc )
you must youse the same cwm version for restore with the one that you use for backup

Cursed Chico said:
Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?
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Are you attempting to backup so that you can move the apps/sms/settings to the new ROM or backing up in case you want to restore? Titanium backup is probably the thing you want in the former case and either with cwm backup or with linux dd backup in the latter. Personally I had problem moving system settings between roms, but apps should work just fine.

Confused about nandroid backup

Ok I'm new to flashing roms and slightly confused about nandroid backup and my reasons are this I read that nandroid backup backs up everything apps included but can't reinstall them so for example say I have a fresh clean installed rom I then sync all my apps from play store and have it set up how I like it ,
Next I create a nandroid backup and with all the apps I have installed that backup is now 14 gb in size ,
Now if I ever need to restore my phone I have a huge 14 gab nandroid backup that can't even install the apps so wasting all that space ,
So to get apps installed I need to do a titanium backup of apps again a fair bit of space used but at least I can reinstall them so call me stupid or whatever but would it not be better to just have a copy of your rom image,gaps and vendor on your phone or usb otg together with your titanium apps update zip?
Am I total missing something ?
I

garny68 said:
Ok I'm new to flashing roms and slightly confused about nandroid backup and my reasons are this I read that nandroid backup backs up everything apps included but can't reinstall them so for example say I have a fresh clean installed rom I then sync all my apps from play store and have it set up how I like it ,
Next I create a nandroid backup and with all the apps I have installed that backup is now 14 gb in size ,
Now if I ever need to restore my phone I have a huge 14 gab nandroid backup that can't even install the apps so wasting all that space ,
So to get apps installed I need to do a titanium backup of apps again a fair bit of space used but at least I can reinstall them so call me stupid or whatever but would it not be better to just have a copy of your rom image,gaps and vendor on your phone or usb otg together with your titanium apps update zip?
Am I total missing something ?
I
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You're definitely totally missing something. The first mistake I think you're making is selecting too many of the checkboxes when creating a nandroid backup, it isn't fathomable for a backup to be 14GB in size when selecting the right options. You only need to select system, data, boot, and vendor. Make sure you leave all other boxes unchecked. The second mistake you're making is the belief that your apps aren't reinstalled when you restore a backup. When you create a backup (by selecting the four boxes I mention above) you create a snapshot of your operating system exactly the way it is when you make the backup. This means all of your apps, all of your settings, every single detail is preserved in this snapshot, so when you restore this backup at a later time it will boot up and be in the exact state that it was in when you created the backup, all of your apps will be installed just like they were previously. So there's no need to keep a Titanium backup of your apps for this specific purpose, but you should definitely have a Titanium backup of your apps for if/when you want to try a different ROM. I hope this all makes sense, if not please ask whatever questions you need to. Also check out my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
It contains a lot of information you might find useful, including a section on nandroid backups (section 4).

Ok thanks very much for that , I've just cleaned cache out and uninstalled some apps no longer needed , in that huge backup file was the titanium apps backup folder I forgot to delete like a divy ?
I've just done a backup again and now a backup by twrp is 8921mb according to twrp does that sound about right ? I have loads of apps installed and tomtom go which is about 1gb with uk map installed ?

garny68 said:
Ok thanks very much for that , I've just cleaned cache out and uninstalled some apps no longer needed , in that huge backup file was the titanium apps backup folder I forgot to delete like a divy ?
I've just done a backup again and now a backup by twrp is 8921mb according to twrp does that sound about right ? I have loads of apps installed and tomtom go which is about 1gb with uk map installed ?
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No that's still too high. It looks like you're backing up userdata too which is unnecessary. Do what I said and only back up system, data, boot, and vendor.

That's all I have backed up what you said system boot data and vendor ? Maybe I should just do a clean install of pure nexus then install my apps from titanium then create a nandroid and see what size it comes up with ?

garny68 said:
That's all I have backed up what you said system boot data and vendor ? Maybe I should just do a clean install of pure nexus then install my apps from titanium then create a nandroid and see what size it comes up with ?
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Perhaps you don't have compression enabled for your TWRP backups?

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Perhaps you don't have compression enabled for your TWRP backups?
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That's right. ive just been into twrp and can see there is an option for compression but ive never checked that box, im guessing compression zips up the backup? if so do i need to decompress if i ever need restore?

garny68 said:
That's right. ive just been into twrp and can see there is an option for compression but ive never checked that box, im guessing compression zips up the backup? if so do i need to decompress if i ever need restore?
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Yeah enable contain and it'll reduce the size, you don't need to decompress, TWRP does it automatically.

Heisenberg said:
Yeah enable contain and it'll reduce the size, you don't need to decompress, TWRP does it automatically.
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thanks a bunch for your time been very helpful
Compression enabled me to get it to 4.99gb

garny68 said:
thanks a bunch for your time been very helpful
Compression enabled me to get it to 4.99gb
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No worries, glad to help.