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If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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Doesn't matter, all the good stuff will be stripped out.
Even if they do block it, phones aren't shipping with it, so only those who update without paying attention to the warnings will be affected.
I know this is semi-unrelated but where is the evidence to suggest froyo is coming tomorrow? I would pretty much jump for joy right now if this appeared to be true, but I wont be too disappointed if there is none.
Just wondering!
The update is not rumored to be froyo, it's supposed to be a maintenance release to fix a few issues.
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Hi guys! I am new to the android world coming from windows mobile where OTA updates didn't exist. So I am curious to learn how this works. Does it just update itself? Do I have to do anything?
Also this is abit off topic but is there a file explorer that comes with android or do I have to download an app?
You will get a popup window asking you if you want to update to xx.xxx.x.xxxx.
You can choose, yes or no.
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Hi guys! I am new to the android world coming from windows mobile where OTA updates didn't exist. So I am curious to learn how this works. Does it just update itself? Do I have to do anything?
Also this is abit off topic but is there a file explorer that comes with android or do I have to download an app?
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It gives you a notification that there is a new update and lets you choose to download it.
Android has no file explorer, you have to get one from the market. I use ASTRO all the time.
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The update is not rumored to be froyo, it's supposed to be a maintenance release to fix a few issues.
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awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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Wifi can't be fixed. Can give to more juice to boost power, but reduce battery life. Or HTC can be magical like Apple and just change all the bars to full signal. For the most part, the current weak signal issue is a display issue.
If this OTA fixes grounding issue and patches HTC's network/battery draining Friendsteam, it would be considered a sucess.
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Wifi can't be fixed. Can give to more juice to boost power, but reduce battery life. Or HTC can be magical like Apple and just change all the bars to full signal. For the most part, the current weak signal issue is a display issue.
If this OTA fixes grounding issue and patches HTC's network/battery draining Friendsteam, it would be considered a sucess.
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If it fixes the fps issue
rockdrummersrock said:
awww lame, thats right I read about that on friday. crap here I went and got my hopes up despite secretly knowing about this smaller update.
Oh well, I'm totally down with better Wi-Fi connectivity (and heres hoping for N support) better battery life and a few other fixes.
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The "Better battery life" was quoted out of context, it only applies to people using facebook app. "Addresses Social Networking Sync issue with Facebook application which can improve battery performance"
So is this update pretty much useless? I think ill pass if it doesnt really fix anything but wifi
What about screen sensitivity?
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If I apply the OTA update do you think that Sprint will re-block ROOT access? (Just like they did with OTA update on 6/4/2010). I know its hard to tell since the update isnt out yet, but do you think the chances are high that they will?
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I dont get it. Why does everyone keep mentioning the original OTA blocked ROOT?
Did the OTA on 6/4/2010 and still used the same Toast root as everyone else.
The only thing that broke was Unrevoked and that was likely due to an incidental change of system files that they depended on initially.
Doubt the next OTA will do anything on purpose to root methods either.
It wouldn't surprise me if they close the root loophole in the OTA particularly since HTC has gotten so much backlash over the 30fps limit and how much the devs are embarrassing them with the whole thing.
Custom ROMs will all be based off the OTA just like the first one, so I don't see what people are worried about. You keep your root and get the benefits.
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If it fixes the fps issue
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I have this really really really really powerfully nagging doubt about that, but I am also hoping.
FYI, I'm a T-Mobile employee and just received a mass email from my DM who was emailed from our Samsung Senior Territory Manager about the maintenance fix for the Vibrant. It's scheduled to roll out on the 20th.
As most know, there is an update coming to fix numerous issues effecting GPS, Google maps, Outlook, lagging and freezing, etc. This will be that update.
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Awesome. I'm sure you will be mocked and etc just cause that's how this forum works, but I'd say it sounds like that would be on time and feasible. Ill believe it.... lets keep hoping.
I wonder if the leaked Rom floating around on Samsungs website is the fixed Rom?
If thats the case then its a patch fix and no mention of 2.2 huh?
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I wonder if the leaked Rom floating around on Samsungs website is the fixed Rom?
If thats the case then its a patch fix and no mention of 2.2 huh?
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I bet it is, just a quick patch. 2.2 will be mid next month I'm guessing. I bet the leaked rom is it, or very close too.....
And as a reminder to everyone, just because you pick up your phone in the morning and you have a nice dialog stating that tmo wants to push you an update, don't get excited yet. Don't install it until you have read from the devs here that it safe to do so. Remember, with the G1, some of the later updates made it harder to root and whatnot. The devs here will have answers very quickly (often within hours), so here is one place where you do NOT want to be the very first person with the update.
I'm just sayin'
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smashpunks: where do you come up with such a guess? nothing indicates they have/havent started with the update, how far along they are, if they ironed the bugs, or anything. lol people like you are funny.
mrgibbage: you cant stop that, if and when an update is released, who knows if it will break root. if it does people will flash and an influx of "how do i root ota" will begin. even with a sticky readin "no root for ota"
The way it worked on the G1, was sure, the update was released. But not everyone "gets it" at the same time. You would get a notice on your phone that a new update was ready to install. But you did not have to install it. You could cancel it (or maybe you had to reboot your phone). In any case, you do not have to take the update when they push it.
Maybe things are different on this phone, but it seems to me it would be a safety hazard if they "forced" you to update when they say. Think how much it would suck if you needed to call 911, and you go to grab your phone and it said "standby while we take control of your phone for the next fifteen minutes".
I'm not worried about it. 89% chance of it being the one we have leaked out now which roots the same exact way. I don't know why people refuse to flash it if they can. It's really good and I don't feel the slightest need to work my nerves with something that doesn't work right like most or nearly all of the roms in the development section. Stock+Root+Bloatware apps removed=waytogo.
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FYI, I'm a T-Mobile employee and just received a mass email from my DM who was emailed from our Samsung Senior Territory Manager about the maintenance fix for the Vibrant. It's scheduled to roll out on the 20th.
As most know, there is an update coming to fix numerous issues effecting GPS, Google maps, Outlook, lagging and freezing, etc. This will be that update.
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thats good to hear and what about 2.2?
I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
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I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
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How do you know that your phone isn't picking up on your every sound?
Nice to have a date. Given the proximity of the release, I agree that there's a good chance that the leaked rom is exactly the same update that's going to be pushed.
I'll be happy as long as it gets fixed by December 12th, 2012.
I would like to be able to use my GPS before the colonization begins.
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I'll be happy as long as it gets fixed by December 12th, 2012.
I would like to be able to use my GPS before the colonization begins.
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Hahaha! Nice!
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How do you know that your phone isn't picking up on your every sound?
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That's right - they're always listening! They know we're rooting.....N **** like that
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I didnt flash the leaked rom outa paranoia. Firstly we dont know if it really is an official update or not and secondly how are we sure the people who leaked the rom didnt embed some sort of backdoor or malicious content in it?
Did i mention i am paranoid?
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True, they probably uploaded an app that gives you AIDS too.
quick question. How do you know about this when no one else who works for tmobile even the android dept have no clue about the fix or any update for the vibrant.
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quick question. How do you know about this when no one else who works for tmobile even the android dept have no clue about the fix or any update for the vibrant.
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I'm guessing because he is a member here and actually tinkers with his phone opposed to some of the other Employees that are straight out of high school that have their job there so they can have enough money to buy the newest "Halo Reach Game"
There are those that want to know and then there are those that walk around like sheep. I know things where I work that others do not know simply because I ask the correct people when I need/want to know.
Plust unless I'm blind he said an email was just sent out addressing the topic.
Lets see some employement verification. Whats more, a copy of the message with the information you are claiming. Then maybe ill buy it. Otherwise its not true.
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Lets see some employement verification. Whats more, a copy of the message with the information you are claiming. Then maybe ill buy it. Otherwise its not true.
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indeed!!!!
i dont understand why everyone got the gps fix and everything, and the vibrant didnt? anyone else know? i cant post the link but its on the 2nd page of androidcentral (all the updates that is)
That's because T-mobile doesn't care about us, and that's the reason why they will stay 4th place.
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All off them got updates and most of them are having problems after the update as well. Just root your phone and install the gps fix its better than waiting. Mine works fine!
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You guys act like we dont get any updates... 2.1 update1 ring a bell
Because you touch yourself at night.
....Sorry, it had to be said.
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All off them got updates and most of them are having problems after the update as well. Just root your phone and install the gps fix its better than waiting. Mine works fine!
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My GPS works fine too after the update, assuming I reboot the phone prior to using the GPS. But other than that, just fine.
Wait, what update I don't recall getting one.
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i dont understand why everyone got the gps fix and everything, and the vibrant didnt? anyone else know? i cant post the link but its on the 2nd page of androidcentral (all the updates that is)
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TMO hasn't released an OTA yet, but 2 new firmwares have been leaked that you can flash to your phone that fix GPS and lag issues.
T959UVJI2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780906
T959UVJI4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788740
Or you can just flash the GPS fix from T959UV12:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782242
I agree T-Mobile sux on this update thing, but as others said, screw them and do it yourself.
I haven't had a GPS issue since JI2, actually I suggest flashing bionix rom. Its the **** has everything included. Not 1 issue here.
Also Eugene's is awesome too.
Or just flash the GPS files lime others also mentioned.
Xda developers ftw....
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That's because T-mobile doesn't care about us, and that's the reason why they will stay 4th place.
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Thats not true. Tmobile is delaying the update because they are including the new UMA/WiFi Calling feature for android and making sure that it causes no problems. out of all the carriers tmobile probably has the best update quality because they actually take their time and make sure everything works out on the update. (Example) look at AT&Ts captivate update, it messed up a lot of phones and bricked a few in some cases.
At this point I'm just pissed. I don't care about updates. How about them fixing what's broken and then concentrate on an update. I know people are saying do it your self, honestly I just don't want to risk a brick and I haven't the time. I've said before... I can wait for 2.2, just fix what's broken. Please.
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At this point I'm just pissed. I don't care about updates. How about them fixing what's broken and then concentrate on an update. I know people are saying do it your self, honestly I just don't want to risk a brick and I haven't the time. I've said before... I can wait for 2.2, just fix what's broken. Please.
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I think fixing what is broken would be an update, lol.
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At this point I'm just pissed. I don't care about updates. How about them fixing what's broken and then concentrate on an update. I know people are saying do it your self, honestly I just don't want to risk a brick and I haven't the time. I've said before... I can wait for 2.2, just fix what's broken. Please.
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Well if you want t-mobile to release an official update so you dont have to fix it yourself then you are in the wrong forum here. Most people here are modders and dont mind a little tinkering. This topic would be much better suited for the t-mobile forum.
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Well if you want t-mobile to release an official update so you dont have to fix it yourself then you are in the wrong forum here. Most people here are modders and dont mind a little tinkering. This topic would be much better suited for the t-mobile forum.
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Don't get me wrong, I have modded, but lightly... That's what I consider it. Even if I had applied a fix, I still think it only right that they, Samsung, fix what's broken. Imo... I don't feel fixing, what's broken is an update, but I can see where you're coming from.
Not trying to stir crap. Just chiming in.
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i dont understand why everyone got the gps fix and everything, and the vibrant didnt? anyone else know? i cant post the link but its on the 2nd page of androidcentral (all the updates that is)
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Why do people ask questions not even based on fact? The captivate update was a bug fix, didn't have the GPS fix in it and was poorly done.
Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
They must also fix
1)Choppy browser with and without flash.....
2)Random freeze of the gingerbread launcher...
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Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
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I think it was posted that the reboot fix was coming, but not the loss of data.
Maybe I am just a lucky one, but I have had Nexus S since release and have only had a "random reboot" once; and no data signal loss issue AFAIK like Engadget has described. I have owned three Nexus Ss.
There are other issues, though, making it clear 2.3 is not bug free.
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Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
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and they didn't even give us XDA credits
Perhaps 2.4 is coming sooner than planned and the fixes will be implemented in that? Just a wild guess.
The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i'm hoping they fix the quirky back button as well. that thing is driving me crazy!
I recommended the nexus s to my girlfriend, but seeing all these issues are making me regret it :\ there are no fixes/workarounds?
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aaaaaand... 10char
Update: Huzzah! Just got a note from Google saying: "All of the issues described in the post are resolved and will be fixed with an OTA that will go out soon." Feel free to start mashing that "system updates" menu item.
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that was fast.
Weird. I haven't had a single one of the issues described in any form. However, the browser issues do make me angry.
Glad there is a hotfix on the way (for the issues mentioned, that is, not necessarily the browser issues)!
The only issue that regularly bothers me is the vanishing ringtone one. It's not exactly critical from a utilitarian standpoint, but I think it's stupid that I should have to root and move files around my phone in order to set a custom ringtone. Still, I'm far too happy with pretty much everything else to switch.
I think one major sticking point with the Nexus S is that we have a fairly lengthy list of at least semi-common issues, but in several cases it's not clear whether those are hardware- or software-related. This is troublesome because the latter may be reasonably expected to get fixed in OTAs, while the former will probably only ever be resolved through workarounds, if at all.
I would be very pleased if Google were more transparent about what it's working on, or at least aware of, even if they (understandably) don't want to commit to fix dates. As a user, just knowing the basic nature of these problems and that they are being acknowledged would go a long way towards improving customer satisfaction in my book.
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The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i read that there will be an ota update, but (maybe its a noob question) if your rooted will you still receive the update, and if so will it unroot the phone??
Fix the GPS!!!!!
Fix the keyboard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZdvr6Pdjk
Discussed more in depth at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932838&page=13
Did you find it cleared multi-touch issues or improved it at all? Some people say Cyanogenmod fixed things, but I'd just like more confirmation that it'd make a difference
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Did you find it cleared multi-touch issues or improved it at all? Some people say Cyanogenmod fixed things, but I'd just like more confirmation that it'd make a difference
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I also have this problem. Tomorrow planning to flash on ParanoidAndroid or Cyanogenmod. Tomorrow otpishus the results.
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I also have this problem. Tomorrow planning to flash on ParanoidAndroid or Cyanogenmod. Tomorrow otpishus the results.
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I've never tried flashing a ROM before, my device is already unlocked/rooted. What do you do exactly to flash Cyanogenmod?
Just installed Cyanogenmod and saw that the problem is not solved. I fear starting to appear that the problem is hardware. Now have to wait for an update from Google.
IIRC, the screen issue is due to a firmware config that cannot be addressed by flashing a new ROM. An updated firmware package will have to be pushed via Google.
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IIRC, the screen issue is due to a firmware config that cannot be addressed by flashing a new ROM. An updated firmware package will have to be pushed via Google.
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Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
fedreta said:
Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
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From what I have seen, google is aware of all the big bugs and is working on a big update. Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update. All the nexus devices start their lives like this, one of the few annoying things about being a nexus fanboy, you get to enjoy the bugs before anyone else gets to.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/13/2013-nexus-7-multitouch-bug/
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Did Google confirm this was the problem? I just need to make sure it is their problem before I go and swap it out since I have 1 more week to decide
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I'm trying to remember the source of my information. But it was stated a few times that the second OTA is what causes the screen issues after powering your device up for the first time.
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I'm trying to remember the source of my information. But it was stated a few times that the second OTA is what causes the screen issues after powering your device up for the first time.
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Yeah I remember this too, something about the kernel supplying not enough voltage to the touchscreen in an attempt to improve battery life. This has to be a kernel bug.
Try flashing a different kernel as that is what bridges hardware and software.
Aren't all kernels based on stock?
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From what I have seen, google is aware of all the big bugs and is working on a big update. Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update.
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I would love to see that happen, but where do you see Google acknowledged and commited to fix all those problems?
If it is just speculation, that doesn't help folks who are within their return period and can get out instead of playing guinea pig.
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I would love to see that happen, but where do you see Google acknowledged and commited to fix all those problems?
If it is just speculation, that doesn't help folks who are within their return period and can get out instead of playing guinea pig.
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According to the minions on their google+ "they are working on these issues". I by no means know that google is in fact going to be able to fix all of these issues, nor am I able to guarantee what they do, but I don't see that by repeating what their reps are saying is pure speculation. I think that judging by past examples anyone who has bought a nexus device at launch has either knowingly or unknowingly already agreed to be a guinea pig. In the end I am one of the last people to say that someone shouldn't return a defective piece of hardware, but it seems a lot of the issues people are having are being misdiagnosed as hardware issues when in fact they can (and most likely will) be fixed by an OTA.
I can dare to say that the issue is present in Android 4.3 affecting any device running it even Custom Roms I'm on CyanogenMod 10.2 on my d2spr (S3 Sprint) and the issue is present there too. Also that causes reboots too. I could be wrong too.
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Also the jss build is giving problems in the nexus 4 thread
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Looks like screen flicker, multitouch, overheating, corrupted images on startup, gps, wifi performance etc are going to be fixed in a bugfix update.
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uprightbass360 said:
According to the minions on their google+ "they are working on these issues". I by no means know that google is in fact going to be able to fix all of these issues, nor am I able to guarantee what they do, but I don't see that by repeating what their reps are saying is pure speculation.
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No problem with repeating what they are saying, but you seem to have commited them to more than they are saying in their personal comments, not those as official reps.
IMO everyone should get accurate information so they can evaluate for themselves whether it is worth the risk to keep it or just to return the unit.
Personally I think the random reboots and GPS can be addressed in software and the multi-touch is probably 50/50 something that can be worked around in software, but everyone has their own tolerance levels for these kind of issues and "are looking into it or are working on it" and "going to be fixed" are quite different levels of commitment.
I'm sorry but what issues are you having because I exchanged my first n7 because I was having multitouch stuttering and issues with unresponsiveness which made the device unusable. The new device is okay.