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I just noticed that the GPS never actually makes a connection with satellites. If I turn off A-GPS, no GPS functionality works what so ever.
Anyone else have this issue, or know how to fix it?
I don't use A-GPS and it works for me
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I assume you mean the "Enable Assisted GPS" setting. I've been ruining without it and been fine.
In fact it gets a reading so fast without this setting, I was wondering what the A-GPS sering was for. I thought it's to improve the speed of the sat lock.
Would it help with battery too?
Well then i wonder what's up with mine?
The point of aGPS (from my non-technical understanding) is it is there to speed up the acquisition of satellites via data service telling the phone where the sats should be. So depending on your view of the sky and other conditions aGPS can make a big difference in how long it takes to get a sat lock. I know it did for my WinMo phones. However whatever GPS receiver they put in the DX doesn't seem to need it nearly as much. I rarely see more than a 3 second delay just turning GPS on. As a matter of fact it locks quicker than my Tomtom.
Ironicly, rooting it resolved the issue.
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Grims said:
Ironicly, rooting it resolved the issue.
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Rooting is seems to have messed up my GPS. I can't get a correct lock.
Hi,
I am wondering if anybody has similar problems with wifi - 3g/data connection works perfectly, but when I am connected over wifi, after sometime the connection dies and I have to disable wifi and enable it again, in order to restore network access. I hoped that froyo would fix that, but as there is no froyo on the horizon I decided to ask.
The phone firmware is 2.1 update1
Software number 2.05.405.2
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Yes I get this too. The connection is still active but many apps suddenly decide to notify me that I need a WiFi/3G connection before I can use them. Turning WiFi off and back on fixes it. This also happens on my branded Desire running 2.1, which may imply it is related to the router settings. I will have to test on other routers. My WLAN is configured to 802.11g only, WPA2-PSK only (WPA-PSK and 802.11b not allowed) on channel 13.
actually great to know that i'm not the only one. i get this all the time, and i even emailed htc about this and response was retarded. they told me how to connect to my router. i tried pretty much everything on this issue. connect and reconnect, change channel from 13 to 11 or 14, nothing seems to be working. hopefully 2.2 will change all this.
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actually great to know that i'm not the only one. i get this all the time, and i even emailed htc about this and response was retarded. they told me how to connect to my router. i tried pretty much everything on this issue. connect and reconnect, change channel from 13 to 11 or 14, nothing seems to be working. hopefully 2.2 will change all this.
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i think the htc legend has the worst wifi reception for all phones of 300 $
havent noticed a single improvement with every update
I had this problem with my first legend. The touch screen malfunctioned so I brought it back and got a replacement. The new one is much better. I am very happy with it.
For instance, in my home office I could never connect with my first legend, it would say association failed when trying to associate with the AP. On my new one it works and I've had it sitting on the desk now for about 4 hours and I picked it up and unlocked it and the wifi worked immediately.
I very occasionally had this until I switched the wifi sleep policy to never after reading somewhere that it would actually increase battery life and haven't had this problem since. Not noticed any difference with battery life though I only switch wifi on when I need it and off when I'm finished.
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For what it's worth, I have the same problem and I'm sure it's related to my phone, not the routers.
I hade no problems with this before my last OTA update...
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i dont want to hijack the thread but is the wifi antenna like **** for everyone or is just me?
im thinking that it might be the aluminium case that shield the antenna because reception is unbeliavable bad
im curious to know if desire/nexus mount the same wifi antenna as legend
if you put static ip it works perferct for me
shuikit said:
I very occasionally had this until I switched the wifi sleep policy to never after reading somewhere that it would actually increase battery life and haven't had this problem since.
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where is this setting?
never had this problem...keeping an eye on this thread though just in case!
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where is this setting?
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In wifi settings, press menu and then select advanced.
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I only have a problem very occasionally with wifi, maybe once per month, and I think this has more to do with my crappy router than anything else.
I have the same problem with WiFi cutting out afters while even when the phone hasn't been moved and when its situated inches from the router
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Generally it is not good idea to have router and client too close together. That way radio noise increases and that's not good.
Thanks for the tip. but it does it downstairs too when Im watching TV the phone is well away from all electrical appliances, after toggling wifi bOFF/ON I get full signal strength.
Same here. After a few minutes normal browsing on Wifi, pages seem get so far then refuse to load. Only solution is to turn WiFi off then re-connect. The WiFi permission is set to never sleep. I'm not rooted and running stock wwe 2.3 ruu.
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gazman69 said:
Same here. After a few minutes normal browsing on Wifi, pages seem get so far then refuse to load. Only solution is to turn WiFi off then re-connect. The WiFi permission is set to never sleep. I'm not rooted and running stock wwe 2.3 ruu.
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Same here!
Anybody have any ideas how to resolve this issue? It's really frustrating having to re-connect wifi every 5 mins. Possibly to do with debranding to stock wwe 2.3 ruu from Vodafone?
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having the same issue, despite having wifi on never sleep
looking forward to getting rid of this phone once I get my htc desire z, HTC doesn't seem to care about it since the only recent OTA they released made it worse
I have had my Epic since it was released and for the original build and the first OTA update, my GPS worked fine but I have been trying to use it lately and its not finding satellites. I am wondering if there is a fix for this or if anyone else has been seeing this issue? I know people had issues on earlier builds...
Under what conditions is your GPS not working? Indoors? Outdoors? Assisted GPS enabled or disabled?
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I have had my Epic since it was released and for the original build and the first OTA update, my GPS worked fine but I have been trying to use it lately and its not finding satellites. I am wondering if there is a fix for this or if anyone else has been seeing this issue? I know people had issues on earlier builds...
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Search for "Cold Start" workaround in this forum or any other Sprint Epic forum.
All Epic phones have GPS bugs. The worst one, which you have just experienced, occurs after a period when the GPS has not been used lately, and the phone has not been recently rebooted. This bug has been isolated to these conditions, and obviously is caused by poor internal handling of time-sensitive GPS cache data. The workarounds force a temporary refresh of the cache.
BTW, even though all Epic's have GPS bugs, officially Sprint and Samsung are still in the denial phase. The bugs may not get fixed, so you should learn the workarounds,
You can also download "GPS Status" which lets you clear your cache data and redownload without having to gimp your GPS in cold start mode (which is horrid if you're off network).
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Search for "Cold Start" workaround in this forum or any other Sprint Epic forum.
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I recommend this cold start mode as well. Using GPS status to force cache only works part of the time and gimps out your GPS unless your are turning GPS status on and off a dozen times a day each time you want to use location application, not to mention background uses of GPS.
I'm having the same issue, my GPS used to work fine before the latest update and now it takes 2-5mins to acquire a single when im trying to navigate.
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I'm having the same issue, my GPS used to work fine before the latest update and now it takes 2-5mins to acquire a single when im trying to navigate.
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1)Make sure "use wireless networks" is off
2) use cold start GPS workaround
I was having trouble with the cold start workaround being an intermittent fix. I realized, however, it was usually when I left my house with WiFi turned on.
Apparently the GPS doesn't work (at least on mine) if I have WiFi on even if it's not being used (not connected to an AP). I do not have "use wireless networks" turned on, either.
That really struck me as odd because why would the GPS have anything at all to do with Wifi?
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I was having trouble with the cold start workaround being an intermittent fix. I realized, however, it was usually when I left my house with WiFi turned on.
Apparently the GPS doesn't work (at least on mine) if I have WiFi on even if it's not being used (not connected to an AP). I do not have "use wireless networks" turned on, either.
That really struck me as odd because why would the GPS have anything at all to do with Wifi?
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I don't think it is the GPS receiver that has a problem. It is the network-based refreshing of the GPS cache, which is what the Cold Start setting triggers -- that is a problem. Having WiFi on inhibits the cellphone network data connection, and after you leave the house your WiFi does no good.
I and some others have found that this cache refresh not only needs WiFi off, but also 4G off. The refresh occurs smoothly using 3G data. (This 4G behavior makes little sense to me, and I think it is itself another symptom of the Epic's bug.)
I use the Cold Start workaround. To make it work effectively, before I start the GPS I make sure WiFi is off. When I am outside and need to initialize the GPS, I temporarily toggle 4G off. Then I open GPS Test, which turns the GPS radio on, forces a Cold Start refresh of the cache, and confirms that I get good satellite locks. Then I turn 4G on again before using an app such as Google Maps.
Does the Tablet Really Require the Wifi to be On to use it? Only way we can get it to work is if we turn the Wifi on and then it uses AGPS.
Downloaded GPS Status and it sorta seems to confirm this. Ive read other sites of people returning the product and getting another and GPS works outta the box w/o Wifi?
Thoughts? Solutions?
--Solved -- Issue seems defective Equipment. GPS works Fine in Airplane Mode with GPS on. Tablet was returned for another and now works.
Haven't checked this, but it seems a bit silly. Why would you need a (static) wifi connection when u use the GPS (for moving around). Doesn't make any sense. I will test this tonight.
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Haven't checked this, but it seems a bit silly. Why would you need a (static) wifi connection when u use the GPS (for moving around). Doesn't make any sense. I will test this tonight.
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With the one we have here I can Confirm the only way i can get it to work is with WiFi on. And Acer Support confirms this..
But there is so much conflicting information out there that Id like to see if it can get cleared up.
If people are returning them and their new ones are working fine with normal GPS then did ACER have a Bad Lot? Or are these folks just making rumors.
I've just quickly checked this with Chartcross GPS Test. With WIFI on I could see one satellite indoors. I switched off WIFI and then saw four satelites, so it would seem that WIFI does not have to be switched on for GPS to work. However, having a data connection is always a good thing to get AGPS data with.
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From my experiance, no it doesn't . I have been using mine with the wifi off with no problems. I use Copilot Live USA to get around all day at work. One thing is, is that Copilot freezes on me if I try to go into the settings menues.
Acer Says Yes
I chatted with an Acer rep this morning and was informed WIFI or 3G is designed to work with the GPS. GPS will not work if there is no data signal. Being hardheaded I called hoping to find someone with more knowledge on this matter and was told the exact same thing, NO WIFI/3G = NO GPS. With this set back I have decided to return.
But I am curious why some peoples are working and others are not?
Im sure my Buddy will post here soon.
but he called Acer and they are saying that it requires Wifi for GPS by Design.
So if everyone else is able to do it.. and he isnt and Acer says thats the way it should be..
Then either some folks have an "added' feature design flaw or they are Fibbing about it. Or Acer just dont know what they are talking about and my buddy has a defective one.
I do not seem to need to be connected to Wifi for GPS to work. I did notice something interesting while researching this though. 22% of my battery usage was coming from cellular. Thats a huge amount of power being used up to poll for a cellular signal that a wifi device isn't doing anything with.
I added about two hours to my battery life by turning the tablet on Airplane mode and then enabled Wifi. Thankfully the little airplane icon in the status bar is only there for a few seconds
The issue is not GPS need WiFi. It is the map need WiFi or 3G datalink in order to be updated with the GPS signal. Your tablet does not preloaded a map like a portable Garmin or TomTom GPS device does.
The GPS does not require Wifi to work, however if you are using an app like Google Maps, this app DEPENDS on wifi to download map and pois. Google Maps is not like your GPS software on your TomTom or Garmin GPS, it downloads the data using the cell modem or in this case the wifi on the device.
To summarize, if you use an app like Copilot or another GPS app that has maps predownloaded then the GPS works just fine on it's own without Wifi.
I hope this clears it up.
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The issue is not GPS need WiFi. It is the map need WiFi or 3G datalink in order to be updated with the GPS signal. Your tablet does not preloaded a map like a portable Garmin or TomTom GPS device does.
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Neoprimal said:
The GPS does not require Wifi to work, however if you are using an app like Google Maps, this app DEPENDS on wifi to download map and pois. Google Maps is not like your GPS software on your TomTom or Garmin GPS, it downloads the data using the cell modem or in this case the wifi on the device.
To summarize, if you use an app like Copilot or another GPS app that has maps predownloaded then the GPS works just fine on it's own without Wifi.
I hope this clears it up.
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Then Why Doesn't Foursquare, Gowalla, Or even the GPS Icon Activate.. Or Even using GPS Status.. Using GPS Status It wont do anything unless WiFi is on.
Totally Understand that you need wifi For Map Downloading. But when you have a Static Predownloaded Map using like MapDroid or Even TomTom Software the Maps are preloaded nothing to download.
So you all Are SERIOUSLY saying that your GPS works Fine with out WiFi I ask you to download GPS Status and Try it with out Wifi Being on and See if you can get your GPS to come on and get a Lock.
Because Acer Support has already said that the GPS is WiFi dependent.
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Then Why Doesn't Foursquare, Gowalla, Or even the GPS Icon Activate.. Or Even using GPS Status.. Using GPS Status It wont do anything unless WiFi is on.
Totally Understand that you need wifi For Map Downloading. But when you have a Static Predownloaded Map using like MapDroid or Even TomTom Software the Maps are preloaded nothing to download.
So you all Are SERIOUSLY saying that your GPS works Fine with out WiFi I ask you to download GPS Status and Try it with out Wifi Being on and See if you can get your GPS to come on and get a Lock.
Because Acer Support has already said that the GPS is WiFi dependent.
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Ok, this is what I did. Turned off wifi and ran GPS status. It locked on to 3 of 6 sat so I guess it works. With wifi on it seems to locate more sat and locks on quickee.
Just to make sure in settings you do have GPS on under location and security correct?
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I tried using MapDroyd with all preloaded maps, it would not give me a Red X for location until I flipped on wifi. That was the only reason I contacted tech support and both chat and phone told me the same thing. There is no power to the GPS until 3G/WIFI is active. Sounds stupid I know, I like the tablet and what nothing more than to keep it but I just refuse to keep something that is configured in such a way. I can live with the AdHoc issue since I know that can eventually be resolved.
Disclaimer - These are not my words but the words directly from Acer tech support.
Trust me I was very clear that I had maps pre-downloaded and the person on the phone was very clear what they told me about how the hardware was configured.
michaelg1030 - YES
T0yman said:
I tried using MapDroyd with all preloaded maps, it would not give me a Red X for location until I flipped on wifi. That was the only reason I contacted tech support and both chat and phone told me the same thing. There is no power to the GPS until 3G/WIFI is active. Sounds stupid I know, I like the tablet and what nothing more than to keep it but I just refuse to keep something that is configured in such a way. I can live with the AdHoc issue since I know that can eventually be resolved.
Disclaimer - These are not my words but the words directly from Acer tech support.
Trust me I was very clear that I had maps pre-downloaded and the person on the phone was very clear what they told me about how it the hardware was configured.
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Not sure I believe what they said.
I just did one more test. I turned wifi off. Reset my tablet. Made sure wifi was still off. Opened up GPS Statues and it locked on to 5 of 7 sat in less than a min indoors. I dont have any nav software with maps so I can't test that. If GPS status shows nothing with wifi off for you I'd exchange it for a new one.
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Then Why Doesn't Foursquare, Gowalla, Or even the GPS Icon Activate.. Or Even using GPS Status.. Using GPS Status It wont do anything unless WiFi is on.
Totally Understand that you need wifi For Map Downloading. But when you have a Static Predownloaded Map using like MapDroid or Even TomTom Software the Maps are preloaded nothing to download.
So you all Are SERIOUSLY saying that your GPS works Fine with out WiFi I ask you to download GPS Status and Try it with out Wifi Being on and See if you can get your GPS to come on and get a Lock.
Because Acer Support has already said that the GPS is WiFi dependent.
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None of those programs work without a data connection. Once you use a program that works without requiring some sort of data, the GPS will work.
I don't really care what Acer says - if you call acer and ask 10 people the same question, there's a possibility you'll get several different answers.
I know what I've experienced, and that is that the gps works with wifi disabled.
I'm confused on what you're debating exactly though, are you saying that the gps does not activate/work without wifi or that it doesn't lock on to satellites?
If you want a simpler test to see if it works/activates simply refresh your weather widget manually and with no wifi connection - you'll see the gps icon pop up and it will say searching for satellites. It won't work, since the weather can't update without data but you'll see that it activates the gps.
In essence, the gps in the A500 works exactly like our cell gps, there's no difference. It's Assisted GPS (aGPS) and requires a data connection to locate the satellites quickly vs. standalone or autonomous GPS found in our Garmin/Tom Tom/etc. Without data it's going to take you 10m-20m to find a lock, with data, 3-5m. This might be what's messing with people. The good thing is if you lock on when you get into your vehicle with help from your wifi for example, then you won't have to wait for it to lock on at some other point. Since my gps is on in the tablet all the time, it's locked in and I suppose that's why I'm not having a problem in my tests.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the GPS in use on these devices uses aGPS (assisted GPS) - which uses a combination of cell tower info (if using 3G) and/or known WiFi hotspot locations to help nail down the starting location and speed up the discovery of satellites.
Y'know, the stuff that Apple & Google are getting in so much trouble for having recently
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Not sure I believe what they said.
I just did one more test. I turned wifi off. Reset my tablet. Made sure wifi was still off. Opened up GPS Statues and it locked on to 5 of 7 sat in less than a min indoors. I dont have any nav software with maps so I can't test that. If GPS status shows nothing with wifi off for you I'd exchange it for a new one.
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OK I will be heading that way for an exchange and update the info once I am back home. Thanks everyone for your input, like I said I like the tablet but the no GPS thing just never made since.
T0yman said:
OK I will be heading that way for an exchange and update the info once I am back home. Thanks everyone for your input, like I said I like the tablet but the no GPS thing just never made since.
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Good Luck.
you can get app fasterfix from market t
it worked great for me.
i also can not keeo co-pilot from crashing locking up sent them email hope its fixed
soon
Replacement
Ok I am back home after going to BestBuy and picking up a replacement Acer A500. This one grabs my current location using current setup.
Airplane Mode On
WIFI Off
GPS On
I will be going in to the city tomorrow and run a few more tests, will post a new update after but this is looking promising. Thanks again for the feedback!
After a couple of days of using my Nexus 4 i've noticed a problem with the way it handles the transition between Wifi and 3G internet.
Usually it works just as expected, when I switch Wifi off (or just go out of wifi range) it automatically switches to 3G internet (coverage icon in blue). The problem is that sometimes, after switching wifi off, it doesn't turn on 3G data (coverage icon remains grey). The only way I can get 3G internet back is turning Airplane Mode on, and then off again. ¿Am I missing something here? I've seen other people having this problem with other phones, but no workaround yet
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After a couple of days of using my Nexus 4 i've noticed a problem with the way it handles the transition between Wifi and 3G internet.
Usually it works just as expected, when I switch Wifi off (or just go out of wifi range) it automatically switches to 3G internet (coverage icon in blue). The problem is that sometimes, after switching wifi off, it doesn't turn on 3G data (coverage icon remains grey). The only way I can get 3G internet back is turning Airplane Mode on, and then off again. ¿Am I missing something here? I've seen other people having this problem with other phones, but no workaround yet
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This happens with my gf's Galaxy S3 too...
I think this is just a network coverage issue. My old mytouch 4g slide had the same problem. Usually it switches quickly if I'm in an area with great reception. If I'm somewhere with weak reception, it takes a little longer.
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I think this is just a network coverage issue. My old mytouch 4g slide had the same problem. Usually it switches quickly if I'm in an area with great reception. If I'm somewhere with weak reception, it takes a little longer.
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Well, I don't think this is a network coverage problem because when this problem happens, it can stay for hours with no 3G internet, it just doesn't even try. But then I switch airplane mode on and then off again, and it achieves 3G data connectivity almost immediately. Also, with the same SIM card I didn't have this problem with an iPhone 3GS.
Well, i've been investigating a little bit, and I've just found it in the AOSP issues tracker as "Android Issue #2207"
I've also found some apps like "3G Connection Fix Free" that seems to try to fix it
I'll try them and report back my findings
I think I have this problem too sometimes. I think my phone has other issues, I'm about to send it back to Google because it keeps dropping cell signals as well, but I definitely have this same problem.
Yes, it happened to me as well yesterday.
After I had more than ten hours at home using wifi, it can't switch to 3G automatically when I left home. The only way I did is reboot the phone.
But if I just connected to wifi for few hours it is OK.
Before I use One X, I don't have this problem before, but the problem is I can't access to internet once I am using wifi for more than 36 hours about.
I think there is big problem for Android system related to wifi and 3G access.
I don't think it's a nexus issue at all. It is definitely something else. My phone hands over form wifi to H+ in a matter of seconds every-time.
I believe you might have a coverage issue.
I am having the same issue, and can confirm it is NOT related to coverage. A reboot of the phone will immediately fix the problem. Have also tried disabling the mobile network, then re-enabling it, with no success.
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I am having the same issue, and can confirm it is NOT related to coverage. A reboot of the phone will immediately fix the problem. Have also tried disabling the mobile network, then re-enabling it, with no success.
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Well, nothing i've tried has worked so far. It looks like if it stays connected to Wifi for many hours (for example overnight), it just won't switch to mobile internet unitl I reboot or do the airplane mode trick. I also have wiped everything and reinstalled the stock rom, but the problem is still there. Has anybody fixed it?
Had this problem with my Nexus One, with my Transformer 300 and now with my Nexus 4.
I use German provider O2 and after doing some research, many people suffer this problem and have O2. I thought it was related to my SIM card and I ordered a new one without success. My wife has O2, too. She never had a problem, not with her HTC Desire, not with her Galaxy Nexus.
I worked around with free app WifiFixer Free, which connects to 3G every 60 minutes. This doesn't seem to work on Jelly Bean, though.
The problem is all but new and I am out of ideas. I now use an app that enters and leaves airplane mode upon leaving a Wi-Fi network. But it yet has to prove that it works...
Any news in here? have the same problem and don't know how to solve it. It's so annoying
greetz
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Any news in here? have the same problem and don't know how to solve it. It's so annoying
greetz
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I have this problem too. Completely stock nexus 4. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does its very annoying.
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After a couple of days of using my Nexus 4 i've noticed a problem with the way it handles the transition between Wifi and 3G internet.
Usually it works just as expected, when I switch Wifi off (or just go out of wifi range) it automatically switches to 3G internet (coverage icon in blue). The problem is that sometimes, after switching wifi off, it doesn't turn on 3G data (coverage icon remains grey). The only way I can get 3G internet back is turning Airplane Mode on, and then off again. ¿Am I missing something here? I've seen other people having this problem with other phones, but no workaround yet
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try this forum..
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40514