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I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with Android. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.
Reason #1, it gets you away from Kool-Aide drinking mac-bots who think everything has to be white.
Anyone else have a constructive response?
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I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with the Evo. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.
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Those of us who show our loyalty to google will be rewarded with land and women once the takeover is complete.
Additionally, flash is neat, USB hosting, I'm fairly siked about google music. Greater customization. I'd wait to see how 3.1 runs but it looks very promising in the dev notes.
you are not bound to itunes, you can customize your UI, your notifications wont interrupt you, its positioned to be compatible with a ****load of other devices, hdmi ready, amazon and sony love android
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How is that not contructive? Apple confines you to their standards. Time to open up and do what the user wants to do....Coca-cola taste a ton better than Kool-Aide
Best advice I can give you is just read the reviews and see if you like it. Seriously read up.
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Upcoming ice cream sandwich!
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http://cameradojo.com/2011/04/20/my-take-on-android-tablets-vs-ipad/
dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.
Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.
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dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.
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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.
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Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.
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see, something you could have easily checked online Google Body is one of the "made for Honeycomb" apps. It was released along with the XOOM.
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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.
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Plenty of tablet apps and "tegra HD" apps available.
Also, pretty much every app I've tried that didn't specify Honeycomb support worked anyways. the "HD" games are spectacular (youtube "pinball HD honeycomb" ... it's 2.99 USD (2.84 CDN haha) and it rocks.
multitasking, much better webexperience than safari, flash support
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Starting a thread like this is just to fan the flames of fanboyism. Don't come on this forum and try to stoke fires. Go try them out and make your own decisions.
I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom
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I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom
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Thanks. I'm going to pull the trigger and do the trade. I still have an iPad 1st gen so I can fall back on the apps I love like Netflix. Hopefully they hack other OS's on the Xoom like Linux. Thanks for all the positive responses from the few of you who weren't just looking to increase your post count.
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In short, it's not quite a slick as the iPad 2 and there are nowhere near enough tablet specific apps, but imo the browser is better, it's more customizable, google maps is far better as is the multi-tasking. But you should know that HD videos will require re-encoding due to the Tegra2 chip and it's limitations.
I think the biggest reason you have already mentioned in your post.
Jail-break.
iPad2 is a Jail. It needs to be broken.
I used to be an iPhone user (3GS and 4G).
I am sick of being told you should do things this way and if you don't , you are screwed.
Xoom and all other android device brings me "freedom" in what I OWN.
Specifically in terms of functions
0. Flash
1. You get much better camera (5mp back, 2mp front facing)
2. You have the rights to root it, install customized roms/themes
3. You can install third party apps freely.
4. You can flash kernels to overclock your CPU to 1.5Ghz while iPad 2 is stuck at 1G max
5. You have strong Dev community to create stuff. as long as there is a need. Apparently it requires certain level of computer proficiency but from what you mentioned, you definitely have it.
6. You have google rolling out more and more exciting updates and with an open source concept, the market share of Android will bypass iOS by much and developer community will definitely notice this part of the market and create apps (commercial apps) around it.
7. many apps you know what is going on because you can see source code.
8. To someone who may worry that iPad apps are more than Honeycomb apps, I think at the current rate of brining new apps to platform, it wont be a problem a few months later at all.
9. Oh, you can install and dual boot Ubuntu in it.
Does it support apk's by any chance?
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Does it support apk's by any chance?
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of course.
it will have to wait for a decent cooked ROM I suspect before it can be treated like a real tablet, when this is done it will be a all tablet killer is it can play full HD video high profile like the samsung SG2
It's pretty safe to assume that they're selling this thing at a loss. They're clearly going after the Gillette model, where you sell the initial item at almost no profit (or even a loss) and you recuperate the investment with the razor blades, which in this case is the content on the Amazon Appstore and media libraries.
It'd be silly to think Amazon would allow us to buy such an under-priced machine and actually do what we want to it, out of the box. That said, I wager that within a week or two, we'll have side-loading support and root.
It will have access to the amazon app store, and they are apk.
As far as side loading goes, that's a different story.
Technically its capable.
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I just read somewhere a while ago, that it will support side loading out of the box. If I can find the link, I'll post it.
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it will have to wait for a decent cooked ROM I suspect before it can be treated like a real tablet, when this is done it will be a all tablet killer is it can play full HD video high profile like the samsung SG2
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Does it have HDMI though?
No hdmi
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Hey there, fellas (and ladies!)! Are you tablet owners tired of that fact that the Android Market still does not have a dedicated tablet app section yet? I got tired of that very fast, and I decided, back in January, to open a website that would become the web's largest database providing users with nothing but applications that are designed to work on Android tablets. I've fought and struggled to make everything work just like it should, and finally, I feel that it's in a position where I can open it up to the masses.
I'm here today to present to you my app, which is live on the market right now. This app is called Android Tablet Apps, and, as the title states, you'll be able to browse all of the Android tablet applications That I have added to my website.
You can download the application from the market via this link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidtabapps.tablink
Please, if you have any comments or suggestions, leave them below, and I will consider them. I am open to anything you have to say.
This app is compatible with both phones AND tablets, running android 2.2+. I didn't feel the need to restrict the app to just tablets, because a lot of us tablet owners also have phones and it would be nice to browse tablet apps sometimes, when you don't have your tablet, right?
Should probably reserve this post for any future need.
Market install issue
Thank you for creating this app. I have downloaded it from the market and the market indicates it is installed, but it does not show up on my tablet... Am using an Acer Iconia A500 with a rooted stock rom, so I am unsure of how to test this,
Thanks,
Edit:
Rebooted, went back and tried the third time and finally installed.
I really wish I could debug that problem, because I have the exact same problem on my tablet, too. (I've the a500 as well).
Very good app. Installed without a hitch on my A501.
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Very nice app man, sweet presentation! Thanks
Bill
How is this different from Tablet Market?
Your market description says "Android Tablet Apps is your number one source, as well as the FIRST source online, for Android tablet applications and games".
How is this different from the Tablet Market app that I've been using for months?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andromo.dev86.app119
From the screenshots, yours does look nicer.
composer47 said:
Your market description says "Android Tablet Apps is your number one source, as well as the FIRST source online, for Android tablet applications and games".
How is this different from the Tablet Market app that I've been using for months?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andromo.dev86.app119
From the screenshots, yours does look nicer.
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From the looks of that app and its website, there's no web interface that tablet owners can use to browse tablet apps. Our web interface is located at www.androidtabapps.com and as mentioned, I've had it up and running since January 2011.
I haven't actually seen that app before, so I couldn't tell you how its functionality differs from mine or anything.
I appreciate your compliment, as well as all other compliments in this thread.
I believe I will be implementing a search option very soon. This search will work on both the tablet and phone version of my application, and it should be released very soon. Also, I think I am going to rework some of the functionality of the app, so be on the lookout for the new update notification when I upload the next version. I'll also post here, that there's an update available, and explain the changes in my second post in the beginning of this thread.
Again, all suggestions are welcome. If you have an idea on how I can improve my app for you, PLEASE let me know, either via this thread, or via the email that's in my app details on the Market.
there's also Tablified (both app + website) to also disprove this one being the first. All that aside though, this app looks quite promising and there's alot of good content, although if I were to be picky, I noticed a few apps not specifically made for tablets. Also, I wish the Market links would open the Market app rather than the website. Just my 2 cents... Looks nice though. I'll definitely be keeping it and looking forward to future updates. Thanks for sharing!
I'd like to take just a moment to counter the claimin post #9. My website has been live since January 6, 2011, while the other site mentioned has been online since July 21, 2011. I am not sure when they released their app as I obviously haven't followed them closely enough, but I can definitly back my claim as being the first source onthe internet for Android tablet apps
I would also like to thank you for your compliments about my app, and I will definitely change the link structure to open app links in your native Market app, rather than the web Market. This change will take place this weekend. Thanks for your suggestion!!
Bloodflame, can you name those apps that we accidentally added that aren't for tablets? Ill review them and remove them. Thanks
HTC Evo View is available for $220, so for $20 extra, you get:
Standard Android OS, and Snapdragon (vs. forked Android and custom PowerVR) for far greater compatibility with apps in Market
GPS, Bluetooth, microphone, camera, hardware buttons
32GB internal storage with microSD expansion
As well as other optional features (use of Sprint's network for 4G, digitizer pen for note taking), but you do lose out on:
Dual core processor (it's single core, but clocked at 1.5GHz vs. 1.0GHz)*
Simplistic, intuitive, design of the GUI (more of an opinion)
Access of direct Prime content, and access to borrowing books from Amazon
I'm leaning more towards the HTC Evo View, and returning this device >.>. Are there reasons not to?
*I don't know if you can compare clock speed directly with different architectures (Snapdragon vs. PowerVR), so take that clockspeed comparison with a grain of salt.
I have both and the View destroys the Fire. I haven't used the Fire in a week now since getting my view. HTC Sense makes a world of difference on this thing, its really nice. Don't discount the cpu either just because it is single core, it is really fast.
If you havea choice, get the View.
I have the Flyer (basically wifi only version of View) and a Fire. The only advantage of a the Fire over the View, in my opinion, is the Amazon video app. I put the amazon app on my Flyer and video stutters. However, I can watch Amazon video in Dolphin browser.
Also, not a lot of development on View at this time (more dev on Flyer). With low prices on View, more devs may get involved. I'm not a dev, but I ordered a View yesterday and will probably keep my Flyer as a backup.
If I had to choose between Fire and View, I would get the View.
The Flyer's bootloader can be unlocked; the View can't.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader (click on Supported Devices List)
Revolutionary supports HTC View (express) 1.09.0000 and 1.13.0000
I thought the HTC Evo View was discontinued.
krelvinaz said:
I thought the HTC Evo View was discontinued.
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Do believe that is why it is so cheap.
I just bought the view. For the price point right now I think its a good way to go. I have played with my fathers fire and Im glad I chose the view. We bought a couple more view over the fire for both of my sister's christmas gifts. I can't seem to get Amazon instant video to play through the browser though. It looks like it buffers the fails. Any thoughts? (post written from my view.)
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I just bought the view. For the price point right now I think its a good way to go. I have played with my fathers fire and Im glad I chose the view. We bought a couple more view over the fire for both of my sister's christmas gifts. I can't seem to get Amazon instant video to play through the browser though. It looks like it buffers the fails. Any thoughts? (post written from my view.)
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Amazon instant video works best for me using dolphin hd browser on my Flyer.
sleepycharlie said:
I just bought the view. For the price point right now I think its a good way to go. I have played with my fathers fire and Im glad I chose the view. We bought a couple more view over the fire for both of my sister's christmas gifts. I can't seem to get Amazon instant video to play through the browser though. It looks like it buffers the fails. Any thoughts? (post written from my view.)
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Interesting comparison. Couple of questions:
1. How's Bens Outlet? Reputable?
2. Will View be able to be upgraded to ICS?
Right now I have KF and while I like it, the lack of physical buttons and memory are not great. I think that ICS will fix button issue, but memory is still a concern long term. If upgrade path to ICS on View is feasible, I would consider it.
Thanks.
KF owner right now but thinking of getting one after Christmas to see it goes down to $200. I think the Evo View is a better deal. GPS, Cameras, far more memory, and Honeycomb on it's way (hopefully), plus the optional 4G is much more for only $20 and if you wait it may go down to $200. either way, Evo View sounds better.
i don't know, i'd still get the kindle fire just because it's going to get a lot more developer support.
the view is discontinued and it's single cored, i'm not sure on the dev-scene for it but i know it has honeycomb ports.
EDIT: not ports, i mean actual leaked builds of honeycomb from HTC
but a lot of people are working on ICS for the fire which is going to be awesome.
however, the view has the pen feature so if youre going to do a lot of writing you should get that. but also HTC sense tends to slow down and youre going to be on a single core as well so it really depends what you're going to do with it.
i'd still just get the kindle fire.
Htc slashed prices for Flyer in India to a lot less and even I was in dilemma to whether go for it or buy fire which I had to get shipped from US.
But with all the development here and seeing Fire is a new device with dual core processor, I bought Fire. Still to get it though, one more week.
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The Flyer's bootloader can be unlocked; the View can't.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader (click on Supported Devices List)
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It may not be officially supported but it's possible with Revolutionary. I literally just did mine like 10 minutes ago.
Basically development & some of the Amazon features are the only real advantages to the Kindle Fire, IMO.
I've played with the KF a few times & it seemed pretty good aside from the lack of buttons. I kept finding myself 'stuck' with no visible way to get back to the main menu. I was still ready to buy one until I found out it has no bluetooth & no sd slot. Those are dealbreakers for me. I shopped around more & decided on the Flyer but everywhere was sold out of that. I finally ended up with the View today & after having played with it all day, I definitely made the right choice. You just get so much more with the View. The KF is still more ereader than tablet, despite how they market it. The only things I don't like about the View are Sense(the first thing I installed was ADW), lack of a camera flash, Sprint's craptastic 3g, longish boot times, and the lack of a search button. All pretty minor things, IMO, when you look at everything else it offers. I was initially concerned about it being only a single core, but it is 1.5ghz & it's plenty fast. Easily one of the zippiest tablets I've ever used. Lack of development is a bit of a downer, but I'm happy with just being rooted.
And the pen just rocks. It may be a gimmick, but I love it. I use it all the time
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Interesting comparison. Couple of questions:
1. How's Bens Outlet? Reputable?
2. Will View be able to be upgraded to ICS?
Right now I have KF and while I like it, the lack of physical buttons and memory are not great. I think that ICS will fix button issue, but memory is still a concern long term. If upgrade path to ICS on View is feasible, I would consider it.
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1. Don't know, but they take paypal, so I should be protected.
2. I doubt it will get official ICS, maybe from dev community, but I wouldn't count on it.
Where are you guys getting the info that the View and Flyer is discontinued? It's still on HTC's main site (as their only 7" tablet), and Google search shows that tis only a rumor, based off of Best Buy not listing it on their site anymore.
HTC did promise Honeycomb on the View/Flyer, and ICS for HTC Evo series of phones; maybe HTC Evo View might be included in the latter.
Other that a few video apps pretty much nothing takes advantage of dual core processors on Android. The View (and Flyer) are noticeably faster than my Fire. The screen isn't as nice but it's still a good screen not one of those cheaper ones that only look good from one location. Add in 4x the memory, a GPS, SDHC card slot, real buttons and so on. If you want a great ereader that can play some games and run some apps get the Fire. If you want an Android tablet get the View or even the Flyer.
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Damn I wish. I could have found that deal. Lol I would have bought that instead of Amazon Fire.
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Damn I wish. I could have found that deal. Lol I would have bought that instead of Amazon Fire.
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You can still return the Amazon Fire for full price (minus shipping*) 'till January 31st 2012.
I plan to, after my View comes in the mail.
*Buyer's remorse is covered at 100% minus shipping; you could lie and brick the device and say its broken for 100% recovery (including recovery shipping), if you so desire .
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Amazon instant video works best for me using dolphin hd browser on my Flyer.
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Thanks! That's a cool browser and I'll probably continue to use it. However I still can't get Amazon instant video to play through either Dolphin or the stock browser on my view at the moment. I'm surprised there isn't an app for it yet. Anyone else able to play Amazon instant video on the HTC evo view?
Also I was under the impression there was a micro hdmi out when I bought this but no big deal for me. Has everything else!
Just picked up my TF300 yesterday. So far I'm loving it!
Spent the evening configuring the device, installing software and apllying firware updates, etc.
You really need to let this thing sit overnight to properly "settle down" as the thing is quite finnicky out of the box. I made the mistake of clicking the "sync with google" account button on setup and it began downloading all 60 or so apps I've purchased from the Market (comw of which are specific to my rooted HTC evo or my HTC Flyer). Once that was done I spent some time uninstalling the ones I didn't want/need.
I bought the Best Buy 16Gb version. I'd have bought the 32Gb version if Best Buy carried it, but they don't alas, and I had some soon to expire rewards $$ that I wanted to apply to this. Also I'm a fan of their 18 month no interest financing (it's how I paid for the Flyer) and the fact that I can just hop on over to the strore if this tablet turns out to be a turkey and just exchange or return it.
But so far so good. After all my apps downlodaded I've still got some 12 Gb free storage, and with the micro SDCard slot I can add an additional 32Gb for movies and such if I want.
The only real bummers I've noted so far is that the Chrome Beta seems to get in a wierd state sometimes where it won't follow links, but instead asks if I want to open a new tab. Unfortunately, force closing Chrome doesn't seem to fix the issue. I've had to restart the tablet. Hopefully that was just a fluke, even though it's happened to me twice. Becaus honestly, I love having Chrome on this thing. Chrome is really Android's "killer app" for me. Having a desktop browser with full functionality (albeit lacking Flash) really turns this thing up to "11" if you know what I mean.
At any rate, that's my overly long story. You can color me happy, thus far.
lots of had issues whither chrome browser. Asus has been finding it to cause issues also. alot report strange things occurring after installing That app. I've been uninstalled it. ill wait till it updates to an official version out of beta before trying again. there are threads on it in prime section.
just giving you a heads up. I find opera mobile to be the best by far. its the only one to give close to true desktop browsing experience. plus its the only browser That lets you upload files like on a regular PC browser, from your prime. its the fastest browser around, IMO. chrome is good but still needs alot of work. between everyone having issues, chrome browser was the thing THST connected everyone. even Asus has noticed this.
have fun with your new 300
Congrats!
I too just picked up the 16GB at BB yesterday.
I agree with OP...let it sit overnight.
So far I love it...and already rooted & de-bloated.
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lots of had issues whither chrome browser. Asus has been finding it to cause issues also. alot report strange things occurring after installing That app. I've been uninstalled it. ill wait till it updates to an official version out of beta before trying again. there are threads on it in prime section.
just giving you a heads up. I find opera mobile to be the best by far. its the only one to give close to true desktop browsing experience. plus its the only browser That lets you upload files like on a regular PC browser, from your prime. its the fastest browser around, IMO. chrome is good but still needs alot of work. between everyone having issues, chrome browser was the thing THST connected everyone. even Asus has noticed this.
have fun with your new 300
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Opera Mobile is my browser of choice on the HTC Flyer and my HTC Evo, so I do like it. Unfortunately it has issues displaying certain websites, so I'm really looking forward to a final, stable Chrome build. I'll continue to use Chrome unless I find it causes too many stability issues on the Transformer.
Holy Cow!
So I decidedI'd try tethering my TF300 to my cellphone, and when I started the tethering app and opeed up the TF300 I found that it was already connected. I though it odd, given that I've got a WPA2 security on the phone. So when I checked the WiFi settings I discovered "memory" of all the WiFi hotspots I'd connected to previously with my Flyer.
That's pretty amazing (and a tad unsettling, to be honest) that Google had sync'd all that information and applied it to my TF300 when I updated.
I was also amazed at how quickly the TF300 recognized my wireless mouse. Plugged thedongle into the USB port, was expecting a chime or some "installing driver" message but saw nothing. The I bumped the mouse ad the cursor moved! Wow! (Also, the scroll wheel works just fine, though the right-mouse button seems to act as a "history back" button rather than a contextual menu, as in Windows.
All in all, I'm really digging this.
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Hey guys best buy is selling the 32GB model as of yesterday. I bought mine yesterday for 399.99, so if you want more memory for 20 more dollars I would highly suggest. Loving this tablet by the way
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