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basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
Ron Overdrive said:
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
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Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
tubaking182 said:
Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
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Lately I've been using Windows 7 since I'm giving it a go to see if I want to return to Windows or not after the Vista blunder.
Honestly though I'd make an OS independent way of doing it to simplify it. Like make it in Java, Python, or in Mono so it'll be one app for all 3 OS's.
Why did you say "M$" in the poll option and not "Microsoft". I thought bagging Microsoft for no good reason stopped being cool 5 years ago?
because up until recently if you were to try and get ahold of a copy of XP an older and "obsolete" operating system they charged nuch more than they charged you for a copy of the crappy vista that the deemed perfect. the company will do anything to make more money than they chould be making, they overcharge for everything and quite frankly i would rag on mac too but it has been a long time since i touched a mac. these days i don't pay for a thing when it comes to my computer software, if there is not a free alternative then i don't need the program. software companies charge an arm and a leg for their software and then they whine and cry that people are pirating it. take a look at photoshop. over 60% of the copies of photoshop that are installed on computers nationwide are pirated copies, and is it any wonder? adobe wants to charge nearly $900 for a piece of intangible software, i'll stick with gimp
I've got an old iMac I still use (OS 9.2), and my main pc is quad boot (XP Pro, Vista, 7, and Unbuntu), and my netbook is dual boot from the hard drive (XP Pro & Vista) and I've got persistant install of Ubuntu on an sdhc card, and a live install of GOS on an sd card.
So I think there should be an option of "All of the above".
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
Work: WinXP
Home: Win7 Beta
Laptop: Currently XP, switching to Ubuntu or some other linux flavor this weekend.
I primarily use Windows because i'm more of a PC Gamer than console. I'd most likely switch completely to Linux >IF< the game industry went full throtle into Linux development. Not talking about a Windows Emulator on linux to run windows games, but coding games natively for Linux.
I think this is a great Idea. I've rooted my phone to get themes and auto-rotation and the updated APN Radio stuff on it. Showed it to some of my friends and they want to root as well, but want me to do it for them cause they are nervous. I tried explaining that if they just follow the step by step instructions, they will be fine. So this will certainly make things easier for them.
tubaking182 said:
basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
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ASUS G1Sn: Dual Boot Vista and Ubuntu, Vista will be replaced when win7 is final
Asus eeepc 1000H dual boot: Windows 7 Beta 1 and XP
I use Vista mainly because Its not that bad despite some of its problems. A few registry tweaks, scratch that a LOT of registry tweaks go a long way Looking forward to windows 7! I like the freedom with Linux but I don't have the time needed to tinker with it and its a hassle. Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
windows vista on my laptop and windows XP at work.
i rooted to JF 1.42 RC33 but i fumbled my way through...i'm sure anyone with equal or lower "skillz" as me would greatly appreciate the automated root.
thx!
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Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
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Heh, I'm the opposite. Mac hardware only looks good, but underneath its poorly put together and the designs are flawed. I can build a decent looking hackintosh that looks just as good. The OS, however, has a lot of potential assuming Apple allows people to customize their experience without hacking the OS to install a theme and stops locking it into their crappy hardware setup. After all its a heavily commercialized BSD hybrid that makes some things much easier.
MoridinBG said:
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
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I take it what you're doing doesn't work with MONO (it supports up to C# 3.0)? I know people who do C# development work on Mac OS X thanks to MONO.
It cannot be categorized into one vote I need two.
Yeah I know it sucks but I have to have at least one machine with Windows because I am a gamer and until the day that Linux has the same level of 3D application/Gaming support I will always need windows.
Though for everything else I'm either testing the Kubuntu 9.04 Alpha or using Kubuntu 8.10.
I use Mac and the only thing I haven't been able to do with it is format my sd to EXT2, so I end up using my Vista In Parallels. Now, Does anybody knows why in my Mac shows ext2 as one of the format options but doesn't seems to work right
My Labtop Has Windows Vista and Ubuntu
And My Two Desktops Have Windows XP
Dual booted with Vista Ultimate x64 and Ubuntu.
Dual boot with Fedora 10 & Windows XP sp3
Windows xp gets used once in a blue moon to play a game. Most of the main windows applications I used can be run in wine these days. Everything else is vastly easier to do in linux.
I run XP at work, and Tri-boot of Vista/Win7/Ubuntu at home.
I would have thought that if you can't understand how to root your G1...you really don't need to root it in the first place??
I run almost exclusively Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 on at least 5 machines (6 if you count the ps3 in). I run no dual boot but I have XP post SP3 in Virtualbox on my main machine for my bank but I will solve that later as the bank officially now supports Ubuntu but my current certificate is incompatible.
I run Ubuntu because I don't get any problem with viruses, trojans, malware, spyware and clogged registry. I also run Ubuntu because almost everything can be done from the command line. You can mod almost all parts of Ubuntu including Linux. It's free and I can make the modifications I want to the source code. Some applications and drivers are proprietary which can be a pain but that's how the current state is and usually you don't need so many proprietary parts. There are many free apps available via apt-get, both using official repository, ppa:s and external repositories. I find Linux distributions more modular than Windows. There's less problem with unsupported old hardware like in newer editions of Windows. Canon and HP skipped Vista support for both our scanner and printer. Only the basic features of the printer worked. In Ubuntu I get a lot more information from the printer with CUPS than with Vista and the inbuilt driver. The scanner was impossible to make work on x64 Vista. x86 worked but it was an ugly driver hack with the old xp driver and not optimal. Most hardware drivers for old components are built in into Linux.
I've tried Vista many times and it has not met my expectations of a good OS. My latest TX tablet crashed while I finished the configuration and went to burn the recovery discs. I tested ram and the harddrive and there were no problems. After running Ubuntu on that machine for quite a while I consider it stable. My previous TX computer had similar problems. The lack of drivers for old hardware, the lack of a good CLI and the need for all the protection makes me look elsewhere. Windows 7 is looking a lot better but It's far from what I want to use. I tried powershell and I just wanted to get out of there quickly. I've used MAC OSX including 10.1, 10.4 and 10.5 and I like it a lot. Unfortunately as you may have understood OSX is exclusively made for MAC:s. It runs on many x86/x86_64 pc:s but often there is always something not running properly.
If Apple would make OSX available for PC:s with BIOS (which they most likely won't because then they wouldn't sell as many MAC:s) I would use it. The Ubuntu GUI is good if you change the theme but Aqua on OSX is much better.
I think we are heading more towards cloud based OS:S / webOS:s /online-OS:s.
Sorry for the rant. I just felt like writing.
Debian linux testing version..
I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?
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I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?
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I posted a thread a while ago regarding just this, whether other Mac users are using WinMo phones as well. Regarding ROM's, I still have no clue. You could try virtual software if you have an Intel Mac, I'm on a PPC Powermac so that's not an option for me.
Turns out there just aren't many and using a PC is the best solution.
Windows Mobile just isn't Mac friendly.
it's not just a mac thing it's also not very linux, 64bit xp, 64bit vista, 64bit win7, 32bit vista, 32bit win7 friendly
Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.
Kooji said:
Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.
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I feel your pain.
I was deciding whether or not to move to Ubuntu.
I'm wondering if these things will work:
ADB
Microsoft Office
Adobe products
Opera/Chrome
HP wireless Printer
Drivers for my HP laptop.
I'm mainly worried about ADB, and Microsoft Office. Will I have to learn new things, any things i should know?
Oh yah I will be doing a fresh install no paritioning, as my computer is only 150gb mem.
Hmmm...
I have zero experience with it, but I was thinking about running a ubuntu virtual machine on my new laptop. (Sorry for mentioning my new laptop two posts in a row.)
Why not just run Linux inside a VM for a while...or permanently. You can run MS Office with Wine or Crossover Office and some Windows programs can be run through Wine. However, it's probably easier to just run a Linux VM or run Windows inside a VM on Linux.
id say no, i love android and webos and they are linux but linux on the pc IMO just sucks . windows 7 all the way! if you want to dabble in linux i recommend ubuntu in a VM.
I duel boot mint which is built off ubuntu and adb works fine just have to download the linux version. all of my laptop drivers worked out of the box. open office is free and was made for linux and will read any of the microsoft office docs and save them in microsoft doc format.
fixxxer2008 said:
id say no, i love android and webos and they are linux but linux on the pc IMO just sucks . windows 7 all the way! if you want to dabble in linux i recommend ubuntu in a VM.
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Im on 7 right now, but I'm having problems with flash, and my speaker drivers.
I really don't wanna revert back to vista.
chococrazy said:
Im on 7 right now, but I'm having problems with flash, and my speaker drivers.
I really don't wanna revert back to vista.
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thats funny, usually 7 installs the needed drivers automatically.
chococrazy said:
I was deciding whether or not to move to Ubuntu.
I'm wondering if these things will work:
ADB
Microsoft Office
Adobe products
Opera/Chrome
HP wireless Printer
Drivers for my HP laptop.
I'm mainly worried about ADB, and Microsoft Office. Will I have to learn new things, any things i should know?
Oh yah I will be doing a fresh install no paritioning, as my computer is only 150gb mem.
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ADB will work once set up properly.
Microsoft Office will be a no go, but you'll have options like Open Office.
Older versions of Photoshop function through Wine. Last I checked CS4 was still buggy.
Firefox will likely be your browser of choice.
Your results may vary with hardware drivers... most everything is supported with a default Ubuntu Install.
If you are to start off, I'd recommend Ubuntu as your starting point. Absolutely the most user friendly distro.
32 of 64 bit? What model pc/laptop do you have?
you could try it with the wubi installer. It installs like a program with windows so it is easier to remove, but you still get to boot to it (without losing windows boot loader) so it is much better than a VM.
why is this thread even in the hero section? maybe go to neowin and ask there.
What version of Windows are you using. If you are running Vista Pro or Windows 7 you can use Microsoft's VM. If not you could download Sun Virtual Box. Right now I am using Sun VM, but am looking for something else, because it won't let me make the OS in the VM Fullscreen. So far I haven't used the VM for anything, but I know it is alot easier to edit the boot.img and kernal if you really want to. That is my next thing to learn as I am in the process of making my own ROM.
Best suggestion I have is.......
before wiping your hard disk and installing Ubuntu, download a VM and install it in there. Once in there you can download everything you want to use and see how well you like it.
hey, vmware player will let you go fullscreen. but if ya just want linux, i'm telling ya, wubi is the way to go.
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hey, vmware player will let you go fullscreen. but if ya just want linux, i'm telling ya, wubi is the way to go.
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I must admit it looks intriguing. Testing it on my netbook now.
Yeah, I recommend you try a VM, or at the most dual boot. You could do a cross between the two, which doesn't require partitions. You can use the program Wubi, which comes on their official discs and install ubuntu inside windows, but it will run as a secondary boot. For the most part, this method gives you full access to your computer, but won't be able to hibernate in ubuntu. Its also not as fast as a real install and you are limited to 30 gigs, but if you decide you no longer want it, you can uninstall it from windows.
I'd start off with an Ubuntu Live CD. Just burn it and boot with it. It'll give you the option of installing if you want to, but it's not required at all.
That way you can get a feel for Linux and see if it's really something you want to commit to.
If you like it, then you can install it; and if you don't like it then you're only out one CDR.
Photoshop will be pretty much a no-go except through Wine; you may have to get comfortable with The Gimp.
MS Office is not something I'd bet on having working; OpenOffice is the native solution.
I'd imagine ADB works fine, the others here know better than I do.
There's a version of Opera for Linux, and a beta version of Chrome for Linux as well.
Drivers are usually the weak spot with Linux if you have really new hardware. If your stuff is a year or two old you should be fine, drivers will most likely download pretty much automatically or will otherwise be easy to get; the Live CD will be a good test of this.
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32 of 64 bit? What model pc/laptop do you have?
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64bit capable, but I like running 32bit.
Hp Pavillion dv9000 (AMD turion 64 x2 hardrive)
Thanks for this thread. This is def going to inspire me to actually try a ubuntu vm very soon.
chococrazy said:
64bit capable, but I like running 32bit.
Hp Pavillion dv9000 (AMD turion 64 x2 hardrive)
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how much ram you got? if it isn't above 2-3gb go with 32bit install.
if you want to try linux install ubuntu or kunbuntu via wubi or VM.
danaff37 said:
hey, vmware player will let you go fullscreen. but if ya just want linux, i'm telling ya, wubi is the way to go.
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Might try that one.
jesuspgt said:
I'd start off with an Ubuntu Live CD. Just burn it and boot with it. It'll give you the option of installing if you want to, but it's not required at all.
That way you can get a feel for Linux and see if it's really something you want to commit to.
If you like it, then you can install it; and if you don't like it then you're only out one CDR.
Photoshop will be pretty much a no-go except through Wine; you may have to get comfortable with The Gimp.
MS Office is not something I'd bet on having working; OpenOffice is the native solution.
I'd imagine ADB works fine, the others here know better than I do.
There's a version of Opera for Linux, and a beta version of Chrome for Linux as well.
Drivers are usually the weak spot with Linux if you have really new hardware. If your stuff is a year or two old you should be fine, drivers will most likely download pretty much automatically or will otherwise be easy to get; the Live CD will be a good test of this.
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Everything for mine were found automatically. My laptop is about 2 years old. The Gimp is okay. That's what I'm using.
Hi guys
i'm really thrilled about the android developments for the hd2, but have waited a while until it had been properly tried and tested and a stable build was made...
Really would like to install the NAND android But..........
I have an apple Mac!!!
please help....
Darren
Sell it and buy a pc
Use VMWare or use BootCamp!
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Hi guys
i'm really thrilled about the android developments for the hd2, but have waited a while until it had been properly tried and tested and a stable build was made...
Really would like to install the NAND android But..........
I have an apple Mac!!!
please help....
Darren
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hopefully you have an intel mac, your only option is to use bootcamp. VMware or parallels will not work. There's no mac software for flashing
Meh, forget it.
Get the 3 sets of files you need, copy to a USB key, then borrow someone's Windows 7 PC, or go to library, Kinko's, etc and perform the work there. With the right files etc, the flashing process only takes about 10 mins max.
oh and make sure you have activsync installed. need that to ensure the drivers/connection is made
your only solution is to buy an iphone 4
lol i kid i kid.... I think you can use virtual box or something like that to use windows programs or just go to a friend house with a pc
my gosh... i didn't realise that none of this is possible on a mac.... that makes me sad...
i'm afraid my mac is rather old... but still working perfectly...
it's an imac 1.25 ghz PowerPC G4
seeksol said:
my gosh... i didn't realise that none of this is possible on a mac.... that makes me sad...
i'm afraid my mac is rather old... but still working perfectly...
it's an imac 1.25 ghz PowerPC G4
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yea you'll have to use someone elses windows machine...it doesn't take long at all just download the files you need
can i not just install the .exe file directly on my phone and open it up on the phone itself???
and i got something called " a solution " which is
1- Install bootcamp if you dont know how-to forget the whole thing
2- Buy a PC YOU WONT REGRET IT
3- Dah ... this is xda = Wm (windows) + Android (linux) no iphone so no mac sell your mac
no way respectively (regarding imac)
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can i not just install the .exe file directly on my phone and open it up on the phone itself???
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No, if it was that easy don't you think we all would be doing it that way? Do you not know anyone with a PC? I think it's your only option as far as I know.
hmmmmm i work in the grpahic design industry! we all use macs....
i'll have to go to a cyber cafe somewhere.....
so first i got the do the HardSPL thing and the Radio thing before i can do the MAGLDR thing and NAND thing....
wow..... i need more than 10 mins to do all that....
You NEED to use Bootcamp. I use my Macbook pro for all of this flashing I do. All through bootcamp.
If you try and install HSPL with VMWARE you will most likely brick your phone. USB connection will be terminated when the phone changes state using VMWARE.
Go to a friend, install clockwork recovery there and then you'll never need a pc again
you can flash through recovery as soon as you have installed it.
seeksol said:
hmmmmm i work in the grpahic design industry! we all use macs....
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On which planet?
Buy a cheap windows netbook.
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On which planet?
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This one. Probably 90% of the design industry use Macs.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
A VM with direct USB access could work, but I don't know if there is even one available on Mac and if the Mac CPU's support it (you need a pretty new CPU with Intel VT-d or AMD-Vi) and a supporting hypervisor like KVM or Xen (on Linux) or VMWare ESXi4 or higher. Maybe VMware Fusion for Mac supports it too, they do a pretty good job of Video card passtrough but I don't know about USB.
But my point is: it might be possible, but why even bother? Just get access to a Windows PC or install boot camp (if you have an Intel Mac).
You can't complain now: when you bought you're HD2 you know that WinMo isn't really designed to work with Mac (you use iSync right? It isn't even developed by MS) and it never has been common to flash from Mac (I don't even know if it is possible)
I installed windows8 developer edition in the C drive. No other operating systems. I have updated the windows defender from windows update.
Then i made some browsing and downloaded some exe's and installed them. But now i think my pc is infected with virus. Windows defender detected few viruses and quarantined them. I deleted them. Now my pc is having few issues. It is taking a lot of time to restart. Also the recycle bin icon on the desktop is now changed to bluetooth icon. I guess my pc is virus infected.
I heard windows defender is a full fledged antivirus solution for windows8. IS it not?
Do you recommend any antivirus solutions for windows8. What should i do now.
Actually i purchased KASPERSKY ANTIVIRUS 2011 which is compatible with windows7. My subscription is upto march 2012. But my bad it is not compatible with windows8. Any solution for this one too..
Windows Defender is not AntiVirus... You want Microsoft Security Essentials or whatever their calling it now
It's all incorporated into Defender now.
We will never get Professional Security from M$.We must depend on Professional AV Providers like norton,Kaspersky.
Why were you installing random executables? If you can't use Windows without F8cking up so badly then you shouldn't be using Developer Preview. GO back to Windows 7, most AV software doesn't work with W8 anyway.
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It's all incorporated into Defender now.
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I have Microsoft Security Essentials installed on my W8.
mr.harsh said:
We will never get Professional Security from M$.We must depend on Professional AV Providers like norton,Kaspersky.
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Well those "professionals" are the most expencive AV in the market.. dont know if you get a % of it.. but there are some out there completly free.
The AV industry is like politics.. there are AV to Mac OSX and there is no virus there..
there is AV in Windows Phone and there is no virus there.. is just business
MS changed many things with time. you go instal something, and you have to confirm it and alow it to acess previleges if asked for that program.
that is just the problem.
people install everything even if dont know what is it .. MS cant do mutch unless start cuting some fingers to dont alow install even after warnings.
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Well those "professionals" are the most expencive AV in the market.. dont know if you get a % of it.. but there are some out there completly free.
The AV industry is like politics.. there are AV to Mac OSX and there is no virus there..
there is AV in Windows Phone and there is no virus there.. is just business
MS changed many things with time. you go instal something, and you have to confirm it and alow it to acess previleges if asked for that program.
that is just the problem.
people install everything even if dont know what is it .. MS cant do mutch unless start cuting some fingers to dont alow install even after warnings.
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Agree With that..
Core2pt said:
Well those "professionals" are the most expencive AV in the market.. dont know if you get a % of it.. but there are some out there completly free.
The AV industry is like politics.. there are AV to Mac OSX and there is no virus there..
there is AV in Windows Phone and there is no virus there.. is just business
MS changed many things with time. you go instal something, and you have to confirm it and alow it to acess previleges if asked for that program.
that is just the problem.
people install everything even if dont know what is it .. MS cant do mutch unless start cuting some fingers to dont alow install even after warnings.
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Agree with that so much, people fail at things so hard mostly because they don't read...
SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes should clean the infection up for ya, if not, try ComboFix.
i've never gone wrong with panda cloud av...and its free. i currently use it on my windows 8 m3 build 8102 x86, and it works just fine. as the tech of my friends and family...im always cleaning viruses from peoples computers, even though they have nortons, mcafee, sophos, etc...but when i uninstall them and use panda it almostr instantly finds viruses and malware the others didnt detect. i think av's are much better cloud based as you dont need to update definitions...just connect and you are protected in real time.