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Attempting to run VISIONary on unrooted FRG83D has no effect besides bogging down the UI. I let it sit for quite a while, then rebooted and nothing has changed.
Bummer. Sometimes I like running a rooted, stock OS rather than using a ROM.
Why do they do this?
(that's a rhetorical question)
And do I have to downgrade back to FRG33 then back up to FRG83 before flashing a ROM now, or can I just install the recovery and flash as usual?
(I know there are no questions allowed here, but I thought it would better to have one post instead of causing more clutter by creating a second, related post in another forum)
how do you think you can flash a recovery without root? That is, unless you have an unlocked bootloader...
gravufo said:
how do you think you can flash a recovery without root? That is, unless you have an unlocked bootloader...
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ap3604 said:
Ahorriblemess I had a small request. If you do actually have to downgrade to FRG33 then upgrade to FRG83 could you tape a video showing how you did it?
No worries if you cant its just I couldn't find a single Youtube video on how to do this and the xda tutorial (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614850) is very confusing for newbies like me who have never even used ADB or the Android SDK before and you sound like a pro who knows how to do it by heart already
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I'm not a pro at all. I consider the pros to be the ones who spend a seemingly incredible amount of time building ROMs in their spare time.
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I started this thread for anyone who used VISIONary to root their device with FRG83 installed. It kind of sucks that it doesn't work anymore.
At any rate, I don't want to turn this thread into something else. I'll PM you.
Hey, have you also tried SuperOneClick here?
Dunno what exploit VISIONary uses, maybe SuperOneClick can do the trick...try and report!
gravufo said:
Hey, have you also tried SuperOneClick here?
Dunno what exploit VISIONary uses, maybe SuperOneClick can do the trick...try and report!
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It looks like SuperOneClick does work.
Check this post
I wish I searched first, or if I noticed that you asked this before I went back to FRG83.
damn xD oh well...
As you have an unlocked bootloader, fastboot over a new recovery then flash a rooted update.zip.
Search for ChainsDD on here for the newest.
That's what I did.
I have rooted and upgraded my Wildfire to 2.2.1 from 2.1, worked fine and still does, but i have lost root.
I have read that i cant use the "unrevoked method" yet to get root back as it wont work with Froyo. Is this true or is it safe to do so.
If I cant use that method then can anyone suggest another way.
Thanks and be gentle as i am new to android.
magpie22 said:
I have rooted and upgraded my Wildfire to 2.2.1 from 2.1, worked fine and still does, but i have lost root.
I have read that i cant use the "unrevoked method" yet to get root back as it wont work with Froyo. Is this true or is it safe to do so.
If I cant use that method then can anyone suggest another way.
Thanks and be gentle as i am new to android.
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Hi, if you updated with OTA update (official) or with RUU, you can't root. We have to wait until some depeloper find out the way to root the new HBOOT.
I updated with a file called signed_121810_120233.zip if that helps.
Anyone know about that file, if its official or RUU
magpie22 said:
I updated with a file called signed_121810_120233.zip if that helps.
Anyone know about that file, if its official or RUU
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I'm downloading it to see if it has the new HBOOT. Give me a minute
EDIT: It doesn't contain the new HBOOT, so you should be able to root. Trying Unrevoked is safe. If you had the new HBOOT, it would hang, but you wouldn't have any problem.
For what I read, you haven't run Unrevoked yet. Do it.
Thank you for your time and effort, i will try it later tonight when i get back home.
Will post and tell you the outcome.
Thanks
magpie22 said:
Thank you for your time and effort, i will try it later tonight when i get back home.
Will post and tell you the outcome.
Thanks
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Great
Ok that did not work, it went through the process but said failed to get root, and asked if firmware was to new?
magpie22 said:
Ok that did not work, it went through the process but said failed to get root, and asked if firmware was to new?
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You have done this in the same computer you did the time it worked, right? For the HBOOT drivers in windows and all these things.
Looking at the zip you sent me, you should be able to root, but I guess that if you lost root, there is something that made you lose it. :S
If you want to try to get root anyway, try Unrevoked in Ubuntu. If not, Superoneclick, or Z4root.
But doesn't look good to root by now... :S
Yeah the exact same pc that i first used to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
Is Z4 safe to use
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Yeah the exact same pc that i first used to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
Is Z4 safe to use
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Yes, the worst thing that can happen is that the phone is slow until you reboot, if it can't get root. But htese methods are Temp root. It would be just to see if you can get root access, which I doubt at the moment.
Thanks for your help, i think i will just wait until unrevoked gets updated.
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Thanks for your help, i think i will just wait until unrevoked gets updated.
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That's what I have to do, I'm in a similar situation for stupidly installing Froyo RUU...
If you notice an update to unrevoked can you PM me and let me know?
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If you notice an update to unrevoked can you PM me and let me know?
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Of course. I just tried with v3.31, which must be the version you tried. I got your same error.
I will let you know. It must be near, because in v3.3 changelog they say "No update for Wildfire yet, sorry", so they are working on it.
TBH is in the process of right now releasing a leaked Moto build of Gingerbread 2.3.3. As of right now, they have been unable to root it, as all known root methods appear to no longer work. Anyone want to tackle it?
obviously not gonna be easy....if TBH can't do it.. I doubt anyone can
Don't think anything is impossible. They just got the release yesterday. It sometimes takes a collaboration of several devs to get root.
If my download ever finishes I gonna try like hello and throw everything I have at it. Lol.
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i have an idea about getting root but im not sure if it will work or not but pretty much instead of rebooting after installing 2.3.3 you install the su.zip file found somewhere on xda and you should have root but im not 100% sure
luigi90210 said:
i have an idea about getting root but im not sure if it will work or not but pretty much instead of rebooting after installing 2.3.3 you install the su.zip file found somewhere on xda and you should have root but im not 100% sure
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That will soft-brick the phone and you'll have to SBF from RSDLite. You can't install any other zips directly after installing a ROM or it won't pass the signature verification on reboot.
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I'll be waiting in hopes you all find root!!!
Anyone try the SuperUser app in the market... says it worked flawlessly in GB for N1..?
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Anyone try the SuperUser app in the market... says it worked flawlessly in GB for N1..?
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Which app is it?
Doesn't the Nexus S on 2.3.3 have root?
Edit: nevermind. Locked bootloader.
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Doesn't the Nexus S on 2.3.3 have root?
Edit: nevermind. Locked bootloader.
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Locked bootloader and root access are two different things.
tried SuperOneClick(special), same process for 3.4.2 blur..no go.
has anyone tried z4root?
wmedina1991 said:
has anyone tried z4root?
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Yes, failed too..
wmedina1991 said:
has anyone tried z4root?
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Several times. no luck
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Locked bootloader and root access are two different things.
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well the nexus s/one use a method which requires the bootloader to be unlocked in order to obtain root so technically speaking they are the same in this case
so far though i have been reading about a gingerbreak exploit from the same guy who released rageinthecage exploit
maybe if we contacted him he might release gingerbreak so we can have root access
that sucks
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Which app is it?
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Search the market for "Superuser" and there is an app that has comments stating it worked for GB on N1.
I downloaded it and ran it and it seemed to have done the first part of what it needed to do fine... but now the next step is flash this .zip update that is on the memory card through recovery...... I don't want to be the genea pig as I need my phone atm...
EDIT: Just read luigi's post.. not sure now...
luigi90210 said:
well the nexus s/one use a method which requires the bootloader to be unlocked in order to obtain root so technically speaking they are the same in this case
so far though i have been reading about a gingerbreak exploit from the same guy who released rageinthecage exploit
maybe if we contacted him he might release gingerbreak so we can have root access
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Where did you see this?
Also, I wonder if the below Kernel exploit could be used..
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Dec/85
I may play around with this when I get home tonight. If anyone else wants to in the meantime, feel free.
luigi90210 said:
well the nexus s/one use a method which requires the bootloader to be unlocked in order to obtain root so technically speaking they are the same in this case
so far though i have been reading about a gingerbreak exploit from the same guy who released rageinthecage exploit
maybe if we contacted him he might release gingerbreak so we can have root access
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looks promising, says in his quote he didnt want to release till more 2.3 devices were out ( so they couldnt fix his exploit ) but hopefully he will release it soon ish
So I lost my phone..the new one came in last night. And it came with 2.3.4.. I tried to down grade it..followed all the instructions from the forum and everything worked fine..until the bootloader part. It said that it couldn't find the
PD15img.zip file when I put it in the root of the sd card. And then I followed the FAT32 method to make the phone read my sdcard..but that still Didn't work..now what?? Used the search bar but could find anything..
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So I lost my phone..the new one came in last night. And it came with 2.3.4.. I tried to down grade it..followed all the instructions from the forum and everything worked fine..until the bootloader part. It said that it couldn't find the
PD15img.zip file when I put it in the root of the sd card. And then I followed the FAT32 method to make the phone read my sdcard..but that still Didn't work..now what?? Used the search bar but could find anything..
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I just received my exchange today and very upset mine came with 2.3.4 also I can't lie it's better than I expected but than again I was using a G1 while waiting a month for my phone I have pre-paid but I was so looking foward to using the new evil d sense 3.0
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So I lost my phone..the new one came in last night. And it came with 2.3.4.. I tried to down grade it..followed all the instructions from the forum and everything worked fine..until the bootloader part. It said that it couldn't find the
PD15img.zip file when I put it in the root of the sd card. And then I followed the FAT32 method to make the phone read my sdcard..but that still Didn't work..now what?? Used the search bar but could find anything..
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Look in the vision g2 section I was in the same boat as you there is a tut in those forums for downgrading to 2.2.1 with adb it also works for mt4g wish I still had link but its there
Same here... Lost my phone and received the replacement yesterday (off course version 2.3.4). Turned out it is a refurbished, the speaker not working, the earpiece not working. I missed another release of lovely Miui
I just happened to see this post and am curious what the problem is... Why are you downgrading it???
I have a Mytouch 4g (HTC Glacier) which was having issues and I just got the replacement. I have not even turn it on, but I have not doubt it will be 2.3.3-- their latest OTA udpate.
Is there going to be any problem rooting this?? Again, it alarmed me that people were trying to downgrade..
Has the firmware/bootloader changed???
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I just happened to see this post and am curious what the problem is... Why are you downgrading it???
I have a Mytouch 4g (HTC Glacier) which was having issues and I just got the replacement. I have not even turn it on, but I have not doubt it will be 2.3.3-- their latest OTA udpate.
Is there going to be any problem rooting this?? Again, it alarmed me that people were trying to downgrade..
Has the firmware/bootloader changed???
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There is no method to root 2.3.4 yet. That's why people have to downgrade.
Do you mean like downgrade from 2.3.4 to 2.2.1 root it, and then upgrade to 2.3.4?
But the only way to do that is if we had the stock 2.3.4 rom, which we don't have, correct?
So I can skip the root and wait, or I can downgrade and be able to use 50% of the apps which I would otherwise be unable to use as they require root.
This sucks.... I am sure someone is working hard on this... but I am surprised there has not been any method (even one that was risky -- as in one typo and you've bricked it) figured out by someone...
Ummm.. Next question then, Can anyone tell me any obvious benefits of the TMO 2.3.4 stock? Is it fast, or mediocre? Or is it just worthless due to the fact that you cannot root it?
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Do you mean like downgrade from 2.3.4 to 2.2.1 root it, and then upgrade to 2.3.4?
But the only way to do that is if we had the stock 2.3.4 rom, which we don't have, correct?
So I can skip the root and wait, or I can downgrade and be able to use 50% of the apps which I would otherwise be unable to use as they require root.
This sucks.... I am sure someone is working hard on this... but I am surprised there has not been any method (even one that was risky -- as in one typo and you've bricked it) figured out by someone...
Ummm.. Next question then, Can anyone tell me any obvious benefits of the TMO 2.3.4 stock? Is it fast, or mediocre? Or is it just worthless due to the fact that you cannot root it?
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Didn't quite understand what you mean but yes, if you got the phone pre-installed with TMO's 2.3.4 then there's no way to root that. You would have to downgrade back to Froyo then root it.
There really are no benefits to TMO's stock 2.3.4 since CM7 2.3.5, VU's 2.3.4 and MIUI's 2.3.5 GB are all better and faster. And even if you liked TMO's GB version for some reason there are rooted and deodexed versions to flash in the dev section. So there really is no downside to rooting.
And as previously stated, the only way to downgrade would be to use that thread in the G2 section which requires ADB.
If you have any questions I just finished downgrading my replacement phone and and rooting via gfree last night.
And before last night I've never even used ADB before.
Found 2 threads that helped me do just that.
Got it all downgraded then followed a video to root gfree. (mackster248)
(Never rooted that way before either.)
Anyway PM if you need help. Maybe I can help you out.
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If you have any questions I just finished downgrading my replacement phone and and rooting via gfree last night.
And before last night I've never even used ADB before.
Found 2 threads that helped me do just that.
Got it all downgraded then followed a video to root gfree. (mackster248)
(Never rooted that way before either.)
Anyway PM if you need help. Maybe I can help you out.
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I came over from Sprint Sunday. I bought a new MT4G, and it had 2.3.4 on it. I had a bad feeling there wasnt gonna be a root method for it. I jumped on my PC and did a few google searches. I came up with this method to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
It went perfect. I also looked at a few of the root methods. I found this one to be easiest for me:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
I only post this becuase I havent seen any links posted and I imagine alot more people are gonna end up with the GB MT4G's out of the box. Total time to downgrade and root was less than 30 minutes.
same thing happened to me, I tried the adb process but it's hard. so I gave up.. Good luck to you
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I came over from Sprint Sunday. I bought a new MT4G, and it had 2.3.4 on it. I had a bad feeling there wasnt gonna be a root method for it. I jumped on my PC and did a few google searches. I came up with this method to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
It went perfect. I also looked at a few of the root methods. I found this one to be easiest for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
I only post this becuase I havent seen any links posted and I imagine alot more people are gonna end up with the GB MT4G's out of the box. Total time to downgrade and root was less than 30 minutes.
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Thanks for the links. Going to have the phone on Monday with the hope that the phone is working fine so i can play with that.
mikeyinid said:
I came over from Sprint Sunday. I bought a new MT4G, and it had 2.3.4 on it. I had a bad feeling there wasnt gonna be a root method for it. I jumped on my PC and did a few google searches. I came up with this method to downgrade:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
It went perfect. I also looked at a few of the root methods. I found this one to be easiest for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
I only post this becuase I havent seen any links posted and I imagine alot more people are gonna end up with the GB MT4G's out of the box. Total time to downgrade and root was less than 30 minutes.
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Those 2 links are both for the downgrading btw.
The links here will help.
(ADB) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928370
(Downgrade) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
(Root) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo
nguyendqh said:
Those 2 links are both for the downgrading btw.
The links here will help.
(ADB) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928370
(Downgrade) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
(Root) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo
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thank you. gotta bookmark these.
I posted the same link twice? Lol, my mistake. I'll post the root method also.
*Here is the root method I used.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
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Those 2 links are both for the downgrading btw.
The links here will help.
(ADB) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928370
(Downgrade) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
(Root) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo
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I posted the same link twice? Lol, my mistake. I'll post the root method also.
*Here is the root method I used.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
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But this method cannot be used if you have 2.3.4 stock, correct? I looked at it quickly.... it doesn't seem to mention downgrading (unless I overlooked it), so it would require downgrade to Froyo first, correct?
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But this method cannot be used if you have 2.3.4 stock, correct? I looked at it quickly.... it doesn't seem to mention downgrading (unless I overlooked it), so it would require downgrade to Froyo first, correct?
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Yes you would half to downgrade to 2.2.1 to root there is no way to root 2.3.4 right now
Yea, unlike most of the other HTC. Phones that got a 2.3.4 update, revolution doesn't support unlocking the mytouch 4g without a downgrade. On the first page of this thread I posted a link to downgrade and the easiest way I found to root. Someone also posted links on this page. I found a few other root methods but they required you to install apps to gain temp root access or download files on the phones browser. The link I found actually only requires you to dl and unzip a few files to your PC and run maybe 10 or 12 commands in a terminal. Very easy.
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But this method cannot be used if you have 2.3.4 stock, correct? I looked at it quickly.... it doesn't seem to mention downgrading (unless I overlooked it), so it would require downgrade to Froyo first, correct?
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2012
Seems like even a year later the best method to root the mytouch 4g is downgrading. I can see why people hate HTC phones
DurtyKing said:
Seems like even a year later the best method to root the mytouch 4g is downgrading. I can see why people hate HTC phones
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A little more work for a better build quality is worth it.
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Okay, so bare with me. I am still on 2.2 running visionary r13 one touch and oc'd. I haven't messed with my phone since last year and this is as far as I got and was completely satisfied running this setup.
I have had the 2.3.3 ota hit my phone but I didn't install yet. When I researched a bit, it seems that many people are getting 2.3.4. Will I have to install 2.3.3 first and I will get an immediate OTA for 2.3.4? Furthermore, if I install 2.3.3, or 2.3.4, how will I go about oc'ing my phone again? I'm assuming there might not be an easy 1 touch root available. I'm limited to my abilities and found visionary 1 touch convenient and easy. Any help for a noob would be great!
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Okay, so bare with me. I am still on 2.2 running visionary r13 one touch and oc'd. I haven't messed with my phone since last year and this is as far as I got and was completely satisfied running this setup.
I have had the 2.3.3 ota hit my phone but I didn't install yet. When I researched a bit, it seems that many people are getting 2.3.4. Will I have to install 2.3.3 first and I will get an immediate OTA for 2.3.4? Furthermore, if I install 2.3.3, or 2.3.4, how will I go about oc'ing my phone again? I'm assuming there might not be an easy 1 touch root available. I'm limited to my abilities and found visionary 1 touch convenient and easy. Any help for a noob would be great!
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well once you ota, you need to root your phone again before you can oc. also you need to ota to 2.3.3 before 2.3.4. also DO NOT USE VISIONARY, it will brick your phone
Try gfree to root ur phone!
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I would personally recommend that you first properly root your phone using the wiki method (gfree). Then you can flash a pre-rooted OTA update. That way you'll keep root but also be on the latest software.
possible to "gfree" (root) even 2.3.3 stock?
martonikaj said:
I would personally recommend that you first properly root your phone using the wiki method (gfree). Then you can flash a pre-rooted OTA update. That way you'll keep root but also be on the latest software.
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I have official OTA 2.3.3 so does the wiki method (gfree) applies even for me? Or there's no-one that been able to root 2.3.3 version?
If the root has been done, can you please provide me with the links? Thank you.
Ok, so i pretty much need to uninstall visionary, install ota 1.3.3, install ota 1.3.4, and the finally perma root, then I can run oc?
cowgaR said:
I have official OTA 2.3.3 so does the wiki method (gfree) applies even for me? Or there's no-one that been able to root 2.3.3 version?
If the root has been done, can you please provide me with the links? Thank you.
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If you're currently on the 2.3.3 OTA update, you'll first have to downgrade to 2.2, then achieve root with the gfree method, then go back to 2.3.3 with a pre-rooted ROM. Info I believe has made it into the wiki, but you may have to search some of the recent threads in here also.
do not update to 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 unless already rooted on froyo. There still is no official rooting method for those ota's. You will have to downgrade, root, s-off etc then flash a pre-rooted stock rom...or any rom for that matter. I am running completely stock 2.3.4 pre rooted and it runs great! Also as far as i know you do not need to move from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 you can go straight to 2.3.4. Also As far as i understand it t-mo messed up and labeled the update as 2.3.3 but it was really 2.3.4 once applied.
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Ok, so i pretty much need to uninstall visionary, install ota 1.3.3, install ota 1.3.4, and the finally perma root, then I can run oc?
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uninstall visionary, follow wiki to root, s-off, supercid (sim unlock) install clockworkrecovery and eng hboot. sounds like alot but gfree does it all in one shot. then your free to flash any pre rooted ota, or cm7, whatever you choose. and you wont brick your device...
hope this helped.
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Only use visionary for temp root!! Use the no adb in the sticky it worked great on my 2.2 ota. It really was painless I did it att work! Lol just pay attention to the spaces in terminal emulator.
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killj0y said:
Only use visionary for temp root!! Use the no adb in the sticky it worked great on my 2.2 ota. It really was painless I did it att work! Lol just pay attention to the spaces in terminal emulator.
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Sorry but this is bad advice. You shouldn't be using visionary for temp root either. It is unnecessary.
Well I'm just stating what I did. I just followed the sticky thread and out went without a hitch. Figured that it was there because it was a trusted method. Oh well, sorry it worked for me lol.
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killj0y said:
Well I'm just offering my advice sorry. I just followed the sticky thread and out went without a hitch. Figured that it was there because it was a trusted method. Oh well, sorry it worked for me lol.
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I agree that if you do use Visionary, it should only be used for temp and not perm root, but there are plenty of ways to root without visionary, and there's no need to mess with it.