Anyone get the 3.5mm plug to work on the car dock / desk cradle after flashing DL30?
I thought the requirement was 2.2, but can't seem to get it to work.
It works
on both the car dock app and music app there is a phone icon. Click it. It will change the output from the phone to the dock.
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It would be nice to have a toogle widget so that it wouldn't app dependent.
ibegary said:
it works
on both the car dock app and music app there is a phone icon. Click it. It will change the output from the phone to the dock.
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I can't find the icon. Does out only appear when the phone its in the dock? Can you use programs other than Music Player (such as Pandora, Listen, etc.)?
When you place the phone in the dock and the app launches (car dock or desk dock) select the icon. I would imagine once you have done this you can run another app (like pandora) and it should work
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Kevin Gossett said:
When you place the phone in the dock and the app launches (car dock or desk dock) select the icon. I would imagine once you have done this you can run another app (like pandora) and it should work
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Anyone get the app to launch on dock when using Launcher Pro? Before a hit of the home key would launch the app, but now that doesnt seem to work. Anyone?
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When you place the phone in the dock and the app launches (car dock or desk dock) select the icon. I would imagine once you have done this you can run another app (like pandora) and it should work
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That's correct. Once you select the icon in the car dock app, just go back to your home by hitting the back button and launch any other app and it should play through the dock. I confirmed with Pandora and SlingPlayer.
You wont see the icon on the car dock or music player unless it is actually docked.
Hope this helps.
I get the steering wheel icon in the notification bar but the app didn't launch. Does it show on the car dock app?
Edit: I was a delta alpha. I located said button in the car stock program. I was confused because the dock didn't automatically pop up like it did in previous versions. I had to start it while in the dock. My only complaint now is that I have to manually switch it every time.
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Has anyone else noticed that the sound quality is severely degraded when running through the dock instead of a direct connection to the 3.5mm jack?
I mean I'm talking absolutely terrible audio quality. Am I the only one? Try connecting a decent pair of headphones directly to the phone and then to the dock, the difference will be very, very apparent.
Try turning down your media volume on the phone while in the dock and using an external amp to control the volume. This sort of thing happens when my internal Sirius radio volume is turned up to full and then run into into the car stero.
It worked fine...sound a bit degraded though, but never the less, it works. Now byebye carrying ipod around.
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Has anyone else noticed that the sound quality is severely degraded when running through the dock instead of a direct connection to the 3.5mm jack?
I mean I'm talking absolutely terrible audio quality. Am I the only one? Try connecting a decent pair of headphones directly to the phone and then to the dock, the difference will be very, very apparent.
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My Dock has a lot of static, even when I have no sound playing. When I remove the power, the static goes away until I plug the power back in. I have tried a USB cable and the same static happens. When I have the same speaker setup plugged into the headphone on the phone, no static. Does anyone else have this issue?
Yea, noticed that too. I thought it was my cable.
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My Dock has a lot of static, even when I have no sound playing. When I remove the power, the static goes away until I plug the power back in. I have tried a USB cable and the same static happens. When I have the same speaker setup plugged into the headphone on the phone, no static. Does anyone else have this issue?
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I have noticed this even without the dock, mine I believe is a whine related to the charging, as it always stopped if I removed the charger while connected to radio. Only way I found to reduce it was to set the phone volume to about 13 or so, so I wouldn't have to run the car stereo quite as high of a volume.
Picked up the Verizon car dock today and what a joy it is to finally be able to use it for audio. As previously stated, you must use the official Car Cradle app to activate the 3.5mm jack. Since the app is basically crap (Bing, Verizon Navigator), I use Custom Car Doc, which allows you to choose whatever apps you want listed. I put Car Cradle on there and am golden. Just use it to activate the jack, then back out and you can use Custom Car Doc normally.
As for audio quality, it sounds great to me. Many cars add audio interference when the phone is plugged into the cig lighter. Amazon carries several cures for this. I installed a Pyramid NS12 12 Amp InLine Noise Suppressor, which was $6 including shipping, and it did the trick on my Mazdaspeed3.
I got the cardock to work, but not the desk cradle. I think in the superclean it was removed. It has the ASOP desk , there is no speaker button.
I use Alarm Clock Plus for my home dock and it has the speaker button.
I didn't like the stock car dock app, so I was using Custom Car Home for a while. That didn't have the speaker button. Then I tried Google Car Home. I could activate the speaker by going into the stock Music app, bit not from the Google Car Home app itself.
I guess ill have to buckle down and try the stock Samsung app. They suck.
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After using DL30 for a few days, I have to say, the car cradle and desktop cradle both gives soo much static....
At least the car is more barable, but the desk was not barable.
I posted a request in the Apps section for someone to 'de-bing' the stock Froyo app, no result yet. What I did find, however, is that you can activate the dock audio from *any* of the apps that support it. So, you can activate it directly from the music app if you want to use the Google car dock, or you can activate it from the Stock Car dock if you choose to swap out to the AOSP music player. Just don't pull move like me and replace BOTH with AOSP apps and then kick yourself when you have to restore lol.
A month or two ago I just started using my epic for music while I ran. I think I damaged the headphone jack somehow plugging in my earbuds because music started coming through only one earbud. But this happened on the second or third day I used it. And I never damage the headphone jack of my mp3 I use all the time. Also nothing was loose inside there, the jack seemed as strong as it ever was. So I stopped using earbuds completely and started using some bluetooth device to stream my music.
Starting yesterday the epic's speaker started fading in and out while on a call, also the mic stopped working when the speaker faded out. Then an hour or two later no sound out of the speakers and no mic 100% of the time. The speakerphone button is even disabled during my the calls. No music, game or notification sounds either. But toggling airplane mode still gives that connection/roaming notification. I tried plugging my earbuds in and one of them worked like it did before and the mic started working. But the weird part is, if it take the earbud out then in I can hear sound coming from thru epic's speaker for half a second. And if I leaver a headphone jack half way plugged in, the epic speaker works as normal. I cut off a headphone plug from a crappy pair of earbuds and taped it so it will only plug in halfway and now my phone works like normal. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
I'm running the toadlife rom, but I have tried just about everything software wise to fix this to no avail. Loading stock, wiping everything, leaving battery out, nothing seems to fix it. Seems like it's something in the hardware and if it is a software glitch it's also in stock.
Defenitely a hardware problem... unroot the phone and take it to sprint and have them look at it...
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I managed to fix the problem with a widget I found on the market place, toggleheadset2. It manually sets the headphone flag on or off in the OS. It's a little kludgy but my phone is back to normal. Still only one earbud works when I plug it in, but I can live with that.
I'm out of warranty and don't have TEP so I'm hesitant taking it back to sprint.
Try cleaning the headphone jack, the contacts might be a little dirty. When mine was dirty, the phone didn't know if the headphones were unplugged from the phone so the speaker and mic are disabled unless the headphones were in.
I had an issue with mine. But I couldn't hear anything while callin and it wouldn't go into speaker phone mode either. I called sprint. Went to my music and could toggle the 5.1 s. Sound on and off so I. Plugged the headphone plug inand out a few times and it di the trick. No probems since then. Works with xbox 360 controllers also lol
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I managed to fix the problem with a widget I found on the market place, toggleheadset2. It manually sets the headphone flag on or off in the OS. It's a little kludgy but my phone is back to normal. Still only one earbud works when I plug it in, but I can live with that.
I'm out of warranty and don't have TEP so I'm hesitant taking it back to sprint.
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They might fix it for a relatively cheap price, plus it doesn't hurt to just find out, id say go check at a Sprint store first man.
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I just want to discuss this here. I have been running the 7.2 rc1 through latest nightly. Most everything works well and it is snappy. The biggest issue I have is with the car dock. This Rom doesn't correctly adjust to dock insertion and removal. Add to this Bluetooth phone audio and it becomes a bit of a pain, at least for me.
Issues:
1) Remove phone from dock after it has lost power and the battery still thinks it is connected and charging. This issue requires either a reboot or a reinsertion and removal from a car dock that has 5V USB power.
2) Audio does not return to 3.5mm plug after call. Put phone into dock. Play music or nav and the audio plays over the 3.5 mm plug. Receive a call when connected to bt, phone audio cones over BT. Hang up call and sound routes to phone speaker. - does not revert to dock audio. The workaround is to un-dock and re-dock and the audiop appears back on the car dock plug.
3) On call. Turn on car, BT connnects, phone audio routes to BT ( I think). place phone in car dock and you have to go to 'phone' then find 'in call' then turn on speaker then turn on bluetooth and audio appears over BT. THe confounding issue is placing the phone in the dock right after it connects to BT or before it has negotiated this connection.
Also I ran into a problem with receiving a notificaton while I was taking a movie with the camera. It stopped the movie.
I was posting these issues to the atrix dev team, but that issues list seems to have gone dormant. I recently posted it to the CM7 list and am now trying to get all my logs in order b/c I was running the latest nightly. These problems with setting the default audio exist with every CM7.2 since RC1. It seems that the issue is the logic with the dock insertion.
1) It 'should' send all audio out the car dock, except the phone audio, when it is plugged into the car dock.
2) It should stop playback of any other app during a call and resume after the hang up
3) Phone BT should not affect this and should be a separate deal. This is how the CM7 appears to work as well. (at least this is how the stock rom works). The phone should be either speaker, handset or BT depending on if BT is connected or not. If BT is connected, default is BT. The problem I have seen is confusion when the phone is in the dock. BT is lit on the 'in call' screen, but audio is on the speaker and needs to be cycled through to bring it back to the appropriate device.
Am I the only one noticing this? I think I may go back to nottachtrix until this gets resolved. I use the dock all the time and this is getting bothersome, especially if there is a rom that deals with this correctly. I like CM7, but need it to work correctly with the car dock audio and charging.
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I just want to discuss this here. I have been running the 7.2 rc1 through latest nightly. Most everything works well and it is snappy. The biggest issue I have is with the car dock. This Rom doesn't correctly adjust to dock insertion and removal. Add to this Bluetooth phone audio and it becomes a bit of a pain, at least for me.
Issues:
1) Remove phone from dock after it has lost power and the battery still thinks it is connected and charging. This issue requires either a reboot or a reinsertion and removal from a car dock that has 5V USB power.
2) Audio does not return to 3.5mm plug after call. Put phone into dock. Play music or nav and the audio plays over the 3.5 mm plug. Receive a call when connected to bt, phone audio cones over BT. Hang up call and sound routes to phone speaker. - does not revert to dock audio. The workaround is to un-dock and re-dock and the audiop appears back on the car dock plug.
3) On call. Turn on car, BT connnects, phone audio routes to BT ( I think). place phone in car dock and you have to go to 'phone' then find 'in call' then turn on speaker then turn on bluetooth and audio appears over BT. THe confounding issue is placing the phone in the dock right after it connects to BT or before it has negotiated this connection.
Also I ran into a problem with receiving a notificaton while I was taking a movie with the camera. It stopped the movie.
I was posting these issues to the atrix dev team, but that issues list seems to have gone dormant. I recently posted it to the CM7 list and am now trying to get all my logs in order b/c I was running the latest nightly. These problems with setting the default audio exist with every CM7.2 since RC1. It seems that the issue is the logic with the dock insertion.
1) It 'should' send all audio out the car dock, except the phone audio, when it is plugged into the car dock.
2) It should stop playback of any other app during a call and resume after the hang up
3) Phone BT should not affect this and should be a separate deal. This is how the CM7 appears to work as well. (at least this is how the stock rom works). The phone should be either speaker, handset or BT depending on if BT is connected or not. If BT is connected, default is BT. The problem I have seen is confusion when the phone is in the dock. BT is lit on the 'in call' screen, but audio is on the speaker and needs to be cycled through to bring it back to the appropriate device.
Am I the only one noticing this? I think I may go back to nottachtrix until this gets resolved. I use the dock all the time and this is getting bothersome, especially if there is a rom that deals with this correctly. I like CM7, but need it to work correctly with the car dock audio and charging.
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This is a development thread, if ur not talking about development then do not post it. go post it in proper thread where people can actually get use out of ur post.
The main issue here is that nobody on the team has the car dock, so debugging this kind of issues is hard on itself, even more when the logs people post are incomplete. And even if we thought of a way to fix it, testing an idea takes hours or even days, because people do this stuff on their free time and can't be waiting 24/7 for you to test anything. I must say, the fact that audio can route to the dock as you can experience it today is an achievement on itself.
PS: I agree, this should be in general, not development.
Turl et al,
Thanks. I appreciate the replies. I also get that this is volunteer and 'in spare time'. If the admins want to move it to the General forum, that is fine. I posted it here as it seemed to be a bit more of a development question, probably wrongly so.
So, if no developer has a dock, can we see how much interest there is and see if we can get enough funds together for you to buy a dock? (paypal donate link?) Amazon has them for about 25.00 or so. I know a number of the moto and even the samsung devices have car docks. I would guess that the motorola branded docks work similarly, but do not know for sure. This may mean if it is cracked here, it may also be useful on other CM roms as well.
Would a comparison log of a blur based rom doing the same activities be helpful? There was a thread in the issues on the early (nov/dec 2011) CM rom under development and it seemed like it was resolved in an earlier rom or on its way to being resolved.
Also, are you implying that my logs that I committed to the CM or Atrix Dev Team issues list are incomplete? If so, I apologize and would like some guidance as to how I can make them complete.
Regards,
Keith
Have the flash issues been fixed on the stable CM7 build? If not, that's something else which needs work...
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The main issue here is that nobody on the team has the car dock, so debugging this kind of issues is hard on itself, even more when the logs people post are incomplete. And even if we thought of a way to fix it, testing an idea takes hours or even days, because people do this stuff on their free time and can't be waiting 24/7 for you to test anything. I must say, the fact that audio can route to the dock as you can experience it today is an achievement on itself.
PS: I agree, this should be in general, not development.
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I moved to CM7.2 from OFW Blur on July 1st2012, and there are only 2 things are troubling me in this transition.
1. This dock problem.
2. The Blur calendar that used to detect conference code dialing
May have to go back to Blur :crying:
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Have the flash issues been fixed on the stable CM7 build? If not, that's something else which needs work...
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I saw this behavior yesterday on a web page. It loaded and I could interact, but then went all crazy. So, it appears it is 'still' here.
Could this be related to other kernel issues? I mentioned the dock issues which bother me most right now as I deal with these every day. There is also the laggy response when using the presto library. These have been purported to be kernel issues and are bothersome, but do not stop me from using the ROM.
Keith
keithspg said:
So, if no developer has a dock, can we see how much interest there is and see if we can get enough funds together for you to buy a dock? (paypal donate link?) Amazon has them for about 25.00 or so. I know a number of the moto and even the samsung devices have car docks. I would guess that the motorola branded docks work similarly, but do not know for sure. This may mean if it is cracked here, it may also be useful on other CM roms as well.
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Personally I don't own a car, but the desktop dock with analog audio out might be a possibility to explore if the issue can be reproduced there and you guys want me to look at it. They cost quite a bit locally though (~100USD+); if somebody from .ar is reading this and wants to mail me theirs for a while, I'll gladly take it and return it when I'm done fixing the bug.
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Would a comparison log of a blur based rom doing the same activities be helpful? There was a thread in the issues on the early (nov/dec 2011) CM rom under development and it seemed like it was resolved in an earlier rom or on its way to being resolved.
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We did that 'blind debugging' back on the day, that's why you can get audio today using the docks. Testing things, however, was really time consuming, and I really don't want to repeat the experience.
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Also, are you implying that my logs that I committed to the CM or Atrix Dev Team issues list are incomplete? If so, I apologize and would like some guidance as to how I can make them complete.
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I saw your report at https://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=5605, the log posted is incomplete (you cannot see, for example, when you first docked the phone; the first lines are around halfway the call). Use logcat to get a full one, see http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Logcat#ADB_Logcat
You don't own a car.. where do you live?
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Turl,
I am not certain, but think that the desk dock is different from the car dock. I just took my car dock apart and it appears that there is a 1.9k resistor to ground on pin 4 (between pins 4 and 5). I am pretty sure this is what triggers the 'car dock mode' and sends the audio out the 3.5mm plug on the stock rom and the CM7.2 rom.
The 'dock detection' seems to work correctly for the CM7.2 rom b/c when the phone is plugged into the dock, the audio comes out the mini plug. The phone will switch from audio out to phone call on BT, seamlessly. The issue appears when the phone audio changes from phone call on BT back to audio out. The audio is not returned back to the 3.5mm plug but to the phone speaker. Whenever audio is coming out the phone speaker and the phone is then plugged into the dock, the mode switches to the 3.5mm plug for audio output. So, it appears that you have the 'detection' working but the logic as to where to route the audio is not persistent and should always go to the 3.5mm jack until the phone is removed from the dock.
Does this help at all or am I just repeating what you already know...
I will try to get a more complete log.
Thanks!
Keith
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You don't own a car.. where do you live?
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I'm a student, I don't need a car. I pay my bus with a NFC card and quickly get anywhere for cheap
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keithspg said:
Turl,
I am not certain, but think that the desk dock is different from the car dock. I just took my car dock apart and it appears that there is a 1.9k resistor to ground on pin 4 (between pins 4 and 5). I am pretty sure this is what triggers the 'car dock mode' and sends the audio out the 3.5mm plug on the stock rom and the CM7.2 rom.
The 'dock detection' seems to work correctly for the CM7.2 rom b/c when the phone is plugged into the dock, the audio comes out the mini plug. The phone will switch from audio out to phone call on BT, seamlessly. The issue appears when the phone audio changes from phone call on BT back to audio out. The audio is not returned back to the 3.5mm plug but to the phone speaker. Whenever audio is coming out the phone speaker and the phone is then plugged into the dock, the mode switches to the 3.5mm plug for audio output. So, it appears that you have the 'detection' working but the logic as to where to route the audio is not persistent and should always go to the 3.5mm jack until the phone is removed from the dock.
Does this help at all or am I just repeating what you already know...
I will try to get a more complete log.
Thanks!
Keith
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We pretty much all know the 'symptoms' by now; what we need is to figure out a) which transitions are the faulty ones, code wise (ex. from end of call to music mode) b) how to hook into the audio stack and watch for those transitions and c) enforce the right ones instead. That takes time, code and testing.
Thanks for the clarification. I was pretty certain I was making it simpler in my mind than it was.
I just submitted a log to the issues list which is similar. https://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=5669 I did not have an opportunity to re-do the music issue and collect a log. I'll do that in the next few days. The issue I posted is related in that an 'un-docking' event is not properly handled while in call and connected to BT. Man, this stuff is complicated...
Thanks for the help! Even though the car docks are $100.00 in Ar, you still may ask for donations to get you one. I have a hunch that this is similar to the Droid docks and the CM community would be grateful for those that use docks with their motos.
Keith
keithspg said:
I just want to discuss this here. I have been running the 7.2 rc1 through latest nightly. Most everything works well and it is snappy. The biggest issue I have is with the car dock. This Rom doesn't correctly adjust to dock insertion and removal. Add to this Bluetooth phone audio and it becomes a bit of a pain, at least for me.
Issues:
1) Remove phone from dock after it has lost power and the battery still thinks it is connected and charging. This issue requires either a reboot or a reinsertion and removal from a car dock that has 5V USB power.
2) Audio does not return to 3.5mm plug after call. Put phone into dock. Play music or nav and the audio plays over the 3.5 mm plug. Receive a call when connected to bt, phone audio cones over BT. Hang up call and sound routes to phone speaker. - does not revert to dock audio. The workaround is to un-dock and re-dock and the audiop appears back on the car dock plug.
3) On call. Turn on car, BT connnects, phone audio routes to BT ( I think). place phone in car dock and you have to go to 'phone' then find 'in call' then turn on speaker then turn on bluetooth and audio appears over BT. THe confounding issue is placing the phone in the dock right after it connects to BT or before it has negotiated this connection.
Also I ran into a problem with receiving a notificaton while I was taking a movie with the camera. It stopped the movie.
I was posting these issues to the atrix dev team, but that issues list seems to have gone dormant. I recently posted it to the CM7 list and am now trying to get all my logs in order b/c I was running the latest nightly. These problems with setting the default audio exist with every CM7.2 since RC1. It seems that the issue is the logic with the dock insertion.
1) It 'should' send all audio out the car dock, except the phone audio, when it is plugged into the car dock.
2) It should stop playback of any other app during a call and resume after the hang up
3) Phone BT should not affect this and should be a separate deal. This is how the CM7 appears to work as well. (at least this is how the stock rom works). The phone should be either speaker, handset or BT depending on if BT is connected or not. If BT is connected, default is BT. The problem I have seen is confusion when the phone is in the dock. BT is lit on the 'in call' screen, but audio is on the speaker and needs to be cycled through to bring it back to the appropriate device.
Am I the only one noticing this? I think I may go back to nottachtrix until this gets resolved. I use the dock all the time and this is getting bothersome, especially if there is a rom that deals with this correctly. I like CM7, but need it to work correctly with the car dock audio and charging.
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I have been able to replicate all the above issues.
Lol man and the joys of being a student. I am surrounded by 3 universities and 2 community colleges so I know how that goes.
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re-loaded nottachtrix (blur rom with stock kernel). In addition to the dock issues, I can confirm that the presto libraryhttp://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aocate.presto&hl=en has a problem. This allows speed-up play back of podcasts in Beyond Pod and other podcasting software.
With CM7, I cannot select any point in the playback by sliding the playback bar. The UI is very laggy and will not respond, quickly, to touch input (play, stop, selecting a point in the playback). Once I re-loaded the nottachtrix with the stock kernel, these responses became instantaneous again. I exchanged emails with the developer a few months back and he seemed to think it was kernel related. I will grab a log and post this to the CM7 issues list when I re-load CM7. I just thought I'd post this here in the hopes that someone has also noticed this issue and would post this as a defect. I do not think this is Atrix related, but a general CM7.2 issue.
Keith
Still using Nottachtrix due to the dock and presto library problem. I am also curious about a comment that the dock works 'correctly' for CM9 (jokersax). Can anyone confirm this? I prefer using CM7.2, but the daily use of the car dock and presto library keep me away. I am considering buying a car dock here for 25.00 and sending it from the US to Turl in AR. Anyone else want to contribute to this effort?
Keith
still no one has car dock
i have two Atrix
can be a tester any time
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Yep, There is a defect logged against this as well as this thread, but Turl appears to be the only developer working on this for the Atrix and he does not have a car dock...
keithspg said:
Still using Nottachtrix due to the dock and presto library problem. I am also curious about a comment that the dock works 'correctly' for CM9 (jokersax). Can anyone confirm this? I prefer using CM7.2, but the daily use of the car dock and presto library keep me away. I am considering buying a car dock here for 25.00 and sending it from the US to Turl in AR. Anyone else want to contribute to this effort?
Keith
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Car dock audio works perfectly in epinter cm10, used that for a week. Now back to CM7.2
I wish if a dev could make a fix for cm7.2 using epinter cm10, if that is possible.
Ditto