I'm considering getting an unlocked GSM phone soon, but I've never had a gsm carrier, so I'm a little confused. Here's what (I think) I know: a dual band phone will work on t mobile (2100 MHz) but not AT&T. A tri band phone will work on AT&T and tmobile. I would prefer t mobile over AT&T, but if I have to get AT&T it won't be the end of the world. So am I right? Corrections welcome.
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I have been using the Touch Dual here in the US for a few months, and love it. I need to switch carriers. Will the Touch Dual work on the Sprint network in the US? What other carriers will work?
Thanks.
GSM networks only, so your only option is AT&T.
acwyau said:
GSM networks only, so your only option is AT&T.
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T-Mobile and AT&T are the only GSM carriers in the US. I don't know if Boost Mobile is or not.
I just picked a phone up unlocked on ebay and am using it on the AT&T network, only issue i've learnt of just now is AT&T uses a different band for the 3g than the touch dual does so i only recieve edge no 3g since its a different band, from what i've been told tmobile is offering it on the same band.
erandhawa said:
I just picked a phone up unlocked on ebay and am using it on the AT&T network, only issue i've learnt of just now is AT&T uses a different band for the 3g than the touch dual does so i only recieve edge no 3g since its a different band, from what i've been told tmobile is offering it on the same band.
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ATT operates on both 850 and 1900 bands. I had my niki working on it until I recently switched to TMobile. You're SOL if the ATT signal in your area is 850 because the Niki doesn't support it. TMobile doesn't us the 850 band so you would be better switching to them. I get a much stronger signal with them.
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ATT operates on both 850 and 1900 bands. I had my niki working on it until I recently switched to TMobile. You're SOL if the ATT signal in your area is 850 because the Niki doesn't support it. TMobile doesn't us the 850 band so you would be better switching to them. I get a much stronger signal with them.
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Niki doesn't support 1900 for 3g either though, how were you getting 3g if you don't mind me asking, maybe you have one of the Australia Versions? Probably gonna have to take your advice on switching, just on such a good rate plan only paying 24.99 for unlimited internet, hopefully a radio patch can help us soon or maybe AT&T and T-Mobile will share towers i know its been discussed between the companies in the past to help increase coverage (usually leads to merger though so i doubt it'll happen with such large corporations)
I'm just curious if there's anyone out there with an HD2 on Verizon? If not, is it possible to do it? The HD2 is a quad band device, so doesn't it have the hardware capable to be on a CDMA network? I was thinking that if I bought an unlocked HD2, I would be able to put it on my account with Verizon. I guess I would have to be running a different radio in order to do that though.
Anyone have any thoughts, comments, suggestions? I really want one of these phones, but I can't switch from Verizon because no other provider gives me 3g in my area. Plus, my Touch Pro 2 is getting dated compared to that 1gz Snapdragon!
HD2 is a GSM phone. Pretty sure it can't be made to work on a CDMA network.
Technology
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
Taken from the HD2 tech specs on HTC's website.
If it has a CDMA radio, why couldn't it work if it were unlocked?
Does Verizon have a sim card to put in the phone? If not, how can they make it work on their network.
Verizon does have sim cards, they use them in the Blackberry Storm, which is both GSM/CDMA ...
But It may be like the storm if it is activated via the IMEI that it may not require a sim card ...
rly? i never thought verizon would use sim cards...can we bring non verizon phones them from lets say ATT to their network?
Verizon has SIM cards for their GSM/CDMA world phones. Sprint also has world edition blackberries with a SIM card. The SIM card is there so the phone is able to roam onto a GSM network outside of the USA. As far as I know this SIM card will not allow it to roam onto a USA GSM network, since there are no roaming agreements in place between VZ and ATT/TMO
The WCDMA on the HD2 is not the same as CDMA that VZ/Sprint use.
WCDMA is the 3G standard that GSM providers use. CDMA is well as far as i know the same old CDMA network that VZ/Sprint have used for ages with whatever "bolt on" enables 3G on their network. I dont follow the CDMA standard so i dont know all the specifics about the tech.
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I just did a small amount of wikipedia research. What Verizon/Sprint use is CDMA2000/EV-DO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-Data_Optimized
This is not compatible with WCDMA,
Even though they both use "CDMA" family of technology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
WCDMA is a wideband version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
Thanks for the replies guys. This is a bummer though. I was really hoping to be able to get an HD2 to use with Verizon. Oh well, guess I'll wait for the Droid X to release, even though I'd like to stick with WiMo.
Does any one know if I can use the tmobile G2 with a canadian wireless plan if its unlocked. I have read about all that tri band stuff but its a little above my head.
Thanks!
T-mobile does not have the same 3G/4G bands as Canadian carriers (Bell, Rogers, etc)
You will only get EDGE. If you want 3G/4G go with an unlocked AT&T phone.
and if ive read correctly, you need to go to a carrier that uses gsm (because tmobile phones use gsm)
Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?
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Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?
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As of 2011 there are three levels of data speed that are used and the order goes like this:
4G
3G
EDGE
The speed decreases as you go from 4G to 3G, and EDGE being the slowest.
You will receive data, just not at blazing fast speeds.
From what I understand, T-Mobile uses AWS, of which three carriers here provide: Mobilicity, Wind Mobile, and Videotron.
It's not worth trying to get what EDGE you can from Rogers/Telus/Bell.
* Ontario biased *
I would recommend to get an unlocked ATT phone
So after some research, the G2 is a quad band gsm phone, which means it should work on any GSM based carrier. From what I've seen that would be mainly rogers and fido correct? Or are there cheaper alternatives?
Also I looked into the AWS but I'm not sure if my g2 is compatible with AWS. It seems as if tmobile uses both. Does that mean my phone is compatible with GSM and AWS? I'm wondering if you could confirm this Ariel?
Also I will be in the montreal area.
Yes. It will work but the G2 doesn't have the same 3G bands as Rogers. That means you'll only get EDGE which, by personal experience, sucks. I'm not sure about Fido, though.
k, what about an aws service like videotron? That should work as well correct?
Hi,
I am looking to buy a factory unlocked G2 and flashing custom rom on it like CM10.2, and use it on T-mobile. Just want to make sure I could get LTE speed, correct?
Currently on Nexus 4 on T-mobile monthly 4g, enjoying LTE 4G speed, so, just want to be sure...
I would suggest you still buy the T-Mobile version, depending on what's important to you. As far as I know, the AT&T version doesn't have 1700mhz AWS band for HSPA+ to fall back onto if you don't have LTE. The two devices (D800 and D801) both have the same LTE bands.
Which version are you considering? I don't know if any of the other versions work on T-Mobile's Band 4 LTE, but when I checked a few weeks back, they didn't. You may be stuck with a T-Mobile version.
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I would suggest you still buy the T-Mobile version, depending on what's important to you. As far as I know, the AT&T version doesn't have 1700mhz AWS band for HSPA+ to fall back onto if you don't have LTE. The two devices (D800 and D801) both have the same LTE bands.
Which version are you considering? I don't know if any of the other versions work on T-Mobile's Band 4 LTE, but when I checked a few weeks back, they didn't. You may be stuck with a T-Mobile version.
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Factory unlocked, e.g. : http://www.amazon.com/LG-G2-32GB-Un...qid=1382743380&sr=8-3&keywords=unlocked+lg+g2
The specs listed on that page for LTE are:
4G Network LTE 850 / 1800
Neither of those are T-Mobile bands in the US. Are you planning to use it in the US, or T-Mobile in another country like the UK? I think the UK uses 1800mhz, but I'm just speculating at this point. Sorry I can't be more help!
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I have a rooted N9000 india 3g model.
I am shifting to USA next month and planning to use T mobile network.
I know N9000 doesnt support 4G/LTE but will the 3G network of T mobile work with my handset?
Contacting customer support they said that for high speed connection i need to have both 1700&2100 band on my mobile, but none of the note 3 even N9005 doesnt have 1700 band.
quoting t mobile "As per using a non T-Mobile device though he needs to make sure that the phone is completely unlocked. Also, non-T-Mobile phones without the AWS 1700/2100 band will not work on on T-Mobile's 3G / 4G network due to band limitations. In order to connect with the 3G / 4G network, a device needs to use both of the AWS 1700/2100 bands (not just one or the other)."
im confused whether to take my phone or not?
letaureau said:
I have a rooted N9000 india 3g model.
I am shifting to USA next month and planning to use T mobile network.
I know N9000 doesnt support 4G/LTE but will the 3G network of T mobile work with my handset?
Contacting customer support they said that for high speed connection i need to have both 1700&2100 band on my mobile, but none of the note 3 even N9005 doesnt have 1700 band.
quoting t mobile "As per using a non T-Mobile device though he needs to make sure that the phone is completely unlocked. Also, non-T-Mobile phones without the AWS 1700/2100 band will not work on on T-Mobile's 3G / 4G network due to band limitations. In order to connect with the 3G / 4G network, a device needs to use both of the AWS 1700/2100 bands (not just one or the other)."
im confused whether to take my phone or not?
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Please help as i will be leaving on 9th.