Hello, I am on MDeejay's rEVOlution 2.2, Kernel 7.6;
I was texting some people and they say android is splitting my text's. I texted myself, and it sends two seperate sms after 154 characters.
My carrier is Vodafone, and has no sms limit.
Anyone silly idea's?
I had the same issue some time ago, but with recieving messages from a friend. think I was using an older Mdeejay Z version. Haven't tested it with the new rEVOlution. But since we are both on VodafoneNL, that might be it. So we'll need input from non Vodafone users.
I now confirmed that even switching to something like 'handcent SMS', an alternate sms app for android - does not fix the issue.
It cuts off the sms after 160 characters, and sents everything after 160c in a seperate sms. Does it again at 320.
I have seen this... I don't recall how I fixed it within the original build (spare parts, maybe). Within the wonderful Handcent app goto settings / sent message settings and you will find the option to 'split sms 160'. Try removing the tick
Sent from my HTC HD2
Thanks for the input, mate.
Anyone else who has a idea on how to fix this in the standard messaging application from Android?
tomj777 said:
I have seen this... I don't recall how I fixed it within the original build (spare parts, maybe). Within the wonderful Handcent app goto settings / sent message settings and you will find the option to 'split sms 160'. Try removing the tick
Sent from my HTC HD2
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Hi I'm having trouble with this message splitting on my HD2 also. I tried the option you said in Handscent but it was already selected as 'Don't split'.
Anyone have any other ideas?
l3mm said:
Hi I'm having trouble with this message splitting on my HD2 also. I tried the option you said in Handscent but it was already selected as 'Don't split'.
Anyone have any other ideas?
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Yes. I was having this split sms-problem as well. I've tried a lot of things - but none worked.
I have been using different Sense roms (Desire and EVO-based) with the same problem. Then I took the step away from Sense and installed a stock Froyo Rom - HD2ONE. And voila - now my text messages are joined correctly at the receiving end.
But now I'm suffering from the echo-problem... Hope to fix it soon.
Im not sure what you mean right now after reading a couple times the thread.
If what you want is to send a single SMS with more than 160 chars, thats not possible. SMS (SHORT Message Service ) has a limit of 160 chars per message, sometimes a bit less if you carrier adds a signature or something at the end.
What cell phones do, is split SMSs every 160 chars, then send em and the receiving phone join em together again.
The issue might be on the way your Android Build splits the message
Sooooo, if you issue is with spliting, then yeah you can try fixing it using different ROMs, if what you want is sending 160+ SMSs, then I think is not possible
Interesting read: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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Im not sure what you mean right now after reading a couple times the thread.
If what you want is to send a single SMS with more than 160 chars, thats not possible. SMS (SHORT Message Service ) has a limit of 160 chars per message, sometimes a bit less if you carrier adds a signature or something at the end.
What cell phones do, is split SMSs every 160 chars, then send em and the receiving phone join em together again.
The issue might be on the way your Android Build splits the message
Sooooo, if you issue is with spliting, then yeah you can try fixing it using different ROMs, if what you want is sending 160+ SMSs, then I think is not possible
Interesting read: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/05/invented-text-messaging.html
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I guess most of us know that an SMS consist of max 160 chars. But most modern phones (from the last decade or so) make this almost invisible to the user, as when the user types more than 160 chars the phone will automatically split the message in two or more sms messages. These 2, 3 or more split text messages will then be rejoined again by the receiving phone.
This is how it should work on all mobile phones, but on different Sense builds on my phone something goes wrong. It seems (only seems) that my android sense phone does the right thing. When I send a message consisting of say 400 chars my phone sends this message to the receiver and it looks absolutely normal. It's invisible to me that the message is split - although I know of course that the phone does that for me. But whoever the receiver is (a nokia, Iphone, or another HTC) they all see my sms as 3 separate sms messages - not joined. I have received many complaints from friends and colleagues because my sms messages will not join on their phone.
The solution for me was to switch to a non sense android build.
Maybe most of the sense builds in this forum is originating from a us version or an asian version where the sms split/join control characters are different from the european ones, and therefore others phone (from europe where I come from) cannot understand it and does not join the messages. I don't know...
But I do know that a stock android build works for me...
And by the way... I figured out the echo-problem by reading Hastarins FAQ.
same problem here on mdj revolution 1.7 and o2 germany
maybe some more people of different builds can test if it's working fine. especially on sense builds!
I don't have this problem here. Just checked with girlfriends phone.
Using MDJ Revolution on o2 uk
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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The solution for me was to switch to a non sense android build.
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Which build do you use now if you don't mind me asking?
Gushfevah said:
I don't have this problem here. Just checked with girlfriends phone.
Using MDJ Revolution on o2 uk
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hi, which revolution build are you using the Desire (Bravo) based one or the Evo based one.
I'm also on O2 UK but have the issue with my build below (the EVO based one).
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Hi, which revolution build are you using the Desire (Bravo) based one or the Evo based one.
I'm also on O2 UK but have the issue with my build below (the EVO based one).
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Using the desire build, have used an Evo build in the past and not been told the sms's were being split.
When I get chance I'll try out his Evo build for you and see how it goes.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Does this problem has been solved ? People's stating to get annoyed by my "multiples SMS" & my no sent SMS (because it's sometimes converted in MMS and I didn't activated MMS on my network - so no sent).
I've noticed that downloading Hancent and removing it has changed the limit up to 160 chars in Sense-SMS.
It will be unfortunate to give up a wonderful Sense ROM because of this issue.
Configuration is :
ROM : Core_Droid_EVO_V0.7_SuperSonic [SD] (but problem occurs on all Sense ROM I tested so far).
Operator : Proximus [Belgium] (I think it's the big problem, 'cause in the changelog of V0.7 said).
* SMS longer than 160 characters gets split into multiple msgs
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I have actually seen this happen to regular Android phones running Sense, or any phone that was natively Android being updated outside of OTA Updates to a newer version (even if stock), so it's not just a porting issue.
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I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
Non-existent, if you have the 1.6.1 ROM
No problems at all even on 1.43 ROM
Never had any problem with sms.
After flashing 1.61 no more SMS issue (as well as no other bugs so far, still testing...)
t-mobile
ROM 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE - Set up the phone, sent text with RSVP and got one back seconds later.
Same with email.
geekyhawkes said:
I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
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There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
never had a problem with SMS. ROM 1.48
Where can you find the 1.61 ROM?
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
thijazi said:
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
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It's a leaked rom so you might want to check out the leo rom sub forum.
I am not having any issues with SMS getting stuck in the out box.
I am however getting the slow down when loading SMS threads. With about 30 messages its getting slow. Not terrible but compared to instant when i started it seems horrible.
Never had any problems with SMS, with 1.43 or 1.48.
I have no idea, what is sms problem this phone work awsome out of the box.
You wanna see fu*ked up phone try lg viewty or other lg crap...
I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
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There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
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In regards to sms bug 1: I'm running 1.61 rom and the messages I sent today I've still not received any delivery reports for.
no1 had this problem??
receive are all 2-3 minutes too early (time is not match with own mobile time clock) as it basic on sender time and so put the text conversation out of sync.
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I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
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It most certainly does. I'm with O2 and have this problem, also the occasional text going to a different (and non-requested) recipient!
HTC have provided a hotfix today for SMS issues. I havent experienced the problem myself so am interested to see if the problem is resolved.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407
Nope that hotfix didnt fix anything. I still have messages sitting in outbox for hours now..
humbug
(ps, using the ROM 1.48)
i still had time stamp error
Hi All
I wonder does anyone noticed that when reading sms on my legend. I could not see the latest sms on top. if you have more than 100 sms from one contact you have to scroll down in order to see the newest sms. Any solution for that issue. Please Help me!!
Everyone who updated the phone software recently is having this issue, very annoying...
I switched to handcent messaging... it is a very decent alternative and it shows the last message on top.
Extremely annoying.
I also installed handcent but when ı read the sms the notification remains on the bar.
realized that problem after reading this thread. the problem exist with the default SMS application.. I recently changed to Handcent and it isn't affected by that.. plus Handcent is pretty nice and all
@lifeis, have you disabled the notification option for your default SMS application? you have to do that to let Handcent "take over" the default one
I switched to Chomp. Waiting for 2.2 ........
edit: reply from HTC Taiwan
"With regards to your enquiry, the message sorting order is default by google phones. However, we will forward your request to Google and HTC."
SMS Threads
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!
everybody is having the same problems regarding the sms bug. try sending an email to htc to voice out your concern and hopefully they can do something asap or we might just get used to it.
He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend! [/QUOTE]
Oh dear lol
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
josh_james15 said:
Anyone else having issues with the SMS threads? Me, and other people around the web have threads that now load from the oldest message (ie from the top) so i now have to scroll all the way down to see any new messages! I called HTC who said software devs are aware of the problem but haven't started working on it yet!! He also told me that 2.2 isn't a definite for the Legend!
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I got this reply from HTC Taiwan:
"The official upgrade for Android 2.2 is not confirmed yet. Desire will release the upgrade earlier than Legend. As Europe already releases the 2.2 upgrade, Taiwan is expecting for its own release soon. However, the exact date for Legend is still not set."
I don't have this problem
It's weird because I'm not having this issue.
Software version: 2.05.405.2
It's a vodafone debranded phone, in spanish
VF eforum thread, anyone with a VF branded phone with the fault please report back to VF in the thread below. They don't see to understand its a fault and still just collecting feedback so LET THEM KNOW !
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/69991-htc-legend-2051611-software-update/page__st__40?
SMS-Threaded-Issue Suggestions
I really like the look of the native SMS app that comes with the phone. However, it misplaces the threaded sms.
HTC support is as sh!tty as it is. I sent them bunch emails, their final answer is "sending in the phone for repair".
Anyways, around April - May 2010, I tried Handcent & ChompSMS. I chose Handcent. The app was good & all, then the updates, then now lots of force-closes. So I switched back to the native app & learned to live with it.
The problem of the native app is that it SLOWS tremendously, especially if you have so many conversations with so many people.
My final solution is the purchase of the Desire (giving the missy my Legend).
With the Desire's Eclair 2.1-update1, the native SMS app STILL suffers from the same problem of the Legend. However, the lag is zero. INSTANTANEOUSLY.. I was VERY CONTENT.
My Desire is recently updated to Froyo 2.2 & it fixes the threaded sms misplace. So, I'm EXTREMELY content now.
So, my recommendation is:
1. Try to live with the native app & wait for Froyo 2.2
2. Try Handcent & ChompSMS & pick your preference.
3. Get the Desire & you'll be as happy as a kid in the candy store.
That's the answer that I got from HTC:
Thank you for contacting us, We apologize for the delay in answering your email, Kindly be informed that currently there is no way to change the sorting of your messages. There may be 3rd party applications that can solve your problem, and you can try searching the market for applications that match your needs. Please note that we are currently analyzing this issue and will determine if this will be addressed in a possible future update. As for the Froyo upgrade, we expect to release updates for several of our 2010 models including Legend and Wildfire during Q3.
Brand new Nexus S 4g on Sprint.
I have an N1 and as of today started getting random garbled texts like below.
Phone was bought and system update installed on Friday afternoon.
No "unusual" apps installed other than Handcent+emoji , and Pulse.
Tried installing GoogleVoice for it to work "the classic" way as described on these forums could that be causing an issue ?
The person with the Nexus S says they dont see those messages in there outgoing. Only recipients.
Yep definitely weird, I texted my sister yesterday using handcent and she replied saying it was all numbers and symbols, on my end it looked fine. I wonder if it was a handcent thing.
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Nope not a Handcent thing. I texted my boss and the next day he showed me it and said, "Dude. What the f*** is this ****...?" Hahahaha, I was using the stock messaging application. Hasn't done it since.
So I just found the problem... It's only if the text is more than 160 characters long. I just tested it...
I same thing happened to me using the evo.
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info[]box1 said:
I same thing happened to me using the evo.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
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Never had that problem when I use to send texts containing over 160 on my EVO
This happened to me yesterday with a message over 160. Freaking weird. Is this a ginger bread "feature"?
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
I had this problem when i was using Sprint Google Voice integration.
Once i disabled that integration, this problem (and many others) stopped.
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From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
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That's probably it. I had just flashed a Rom and forgot to check that. Thanks
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
It's not so much a problem but a limitation of CDMA. GSM networks will automatically split messages up larger than 160 characters, CDMA can't do so effectively. I ran into the same problem when I installed handcent sms, since by default the feature to break apart messages is deactivated. If you're using the stock sms app then you won't have this problem since it limits any text being sent to 160 characters. If you want to send more you have to create a new message.
That limitation is a problem
I am not sure if it´s a limitation. I had a lot of those, not sure if any sms of mine reached more than 160 chars.
After googling it a lot, someone reported it as a bug in gingerbread, and it happens if you use accentuation.
I followed this, and never had any friend complaining of garbled SMS again.
Interesting. I had them uninstall handcent and it stopped. But they also said theyve only been sending short messages.
Will try the character fix to see if it works.
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From what I hear it is a problem with CDMA, not sure what though. The way you can fix it is to go into your txt settings (I use handcent) and have messages longer than 160 characters broken up into multiple messages of 160 characters or less automatically. Or pay attention to your character count and break into a second message when it gets to 160.
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I was having this issue and this resolved it for me.
Just happened to me. I enabled split SMS and we'll see what my friends say.
I did not have this problem with my EVO 4G on Sprint, (using the stock sms or Go SMS Pro) but I am having it with my Nexus S using Go SMS Pro (stock sms app won't let me send more than 160 chars).
I can confirm that having handcent split the message fixes this issue. I also have the .apk of the stock messaging app with similar settings to split the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202223
Happend to me today
So I texted my brother earlier this morning and he said that it happened, but the weird thing is that afterwards my data stopped working.
So since I couldn't get it to work no matter what I did, I decided to wipe and reflashed my phone but it still doesn't work. Now i'm stuck with a phone that doesn't have any contacts, and no working data but i get texts fine, although I'm not sure if they send fine since i haven't tried. D:
So has anyone had this happen to them, if so do you have any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
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I forgot to say that i have a Nexus S 4g with sprint.
Running latest nightly cm7 (5). With netarchy's latest kernel. Using handcent for text.
When sending text under 160 everything works great. Once going over causing a split, the recipients of my text gets gibberish. Scrambled letter and symbols. Is anyone else getting this? Both my phone and my brother's phone do the same thing, so I know you should get the same results if you use the same setup as me. My question is why and what can we do to fix it?
I have read about this before but not actually experienced it yet (no long texts). I am running CM7 on my ns4g. I heard the simple solution was to go into your sms settings and simply select to have the app split up your texts at 160 characters.
Oh - sorry - you are using handcent. forgot. I just use cm7 sms app. hmmm. not sure. handcent doesn't have the same option?
Handcent has those options. They don't do anything. I ran cm7 on my evo with handcent, never had this problem before. So I'm thinking its a phone specific problem.
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Running latest nightly cm7 (5). With netarchy's latest kernel. Using handcent for text.
When sending text under 160 everything works great. Once going over causing a split, the recipients of my text gets gibberish. Scrambled letter and symbols. Is anyone else getting this? Both my phone and my brother's phone do the same thing, so I know you should get the same results if you use the same setup as me. My question is why and what can we do to fix it?
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Its a CDMA issue. Have your texts split up into multiple txts at the 160 character count. There is even a setting in Handcent that says something about compatibly with CDMA
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Its a CDMA issue. Have your texts split up into multiple txts at the 160 character count. There is even a setting in Handcent that says something about compatibly with CDMA
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i have used both settings in handcent for splitting by character and by word at the 160 limit. neither of them seem to work. the recipient receives two texts but it's all gibberish. I never once had this problem on my evo which is cdma also. both phones ran CM and handcent. I've gone through each and every setting in handcent and CM to double check I wasn't missing something. regardless it should work without me changing a setting to allow long texts. It is something that needs to be fixed.
What i'm thinking the problem is, is a setting that was forgotten to change from the gsm phones in the sms settings.
I just installed Miui, using the stock sms app from that it still scrambles the texts over 160. It says it's sending two texts, but something is horribly wrong on the receiving end of the text. So i'm pretty sure it's not a problem with handcent settings. It's the fact that these roms are ported from the GSM NS and we're missing something yet.
I'm going to install a stock image after work today and confirm that it works on stock roms.
I'm very shocked no one else has complained about this. I have two NS4G phones both of which have the same symptoms.
Just confirmed that 160+ sms messages send fine from a stock os on the ns4g. using stock messaging or handcent.
Using CM or Miui is causing gibberish to come through. There seems to be a problem using non stock based roms at the moment.
That is interesting. I had the problem, but I resent the same exact text except I broke it into 2 smaller sms and it was received fine. I can't remember what rom that was though, because I've been through so many and havent heard of the issue since I setup the automatic split sms in handcent.
So I bounce between my HD2 (Group Textings on OS works nearly perfect, just a little delay.) and my G2. I recently went back to my G2 due to options for apps. Ive tried Handcent & Go SMS..but they fall so short and have bugs/doesnt work.
Most my friends have iPhones & I still resist. Any permanent 'fixes' or options ive overlooked?
what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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If someone includes me in a group text that hes say 5 different iphone #'s in it..If I respond it only gets sent to the original sender, and if I recieve 4 respones from 4 different reciepients itll be 4 individual texts "threads" besides the original one.
Am I missing something?
That's how every group message I've ever used worked. Unless some apps have a way to change that.
Sent from my EVO 3D, using TapaTalk 2.
I too have had this problem. I have settled on handcent. It is not perfect but it gets the job done. When I was doing my research some people were having luck with the verizon messaging app......
HammDroid - True group messaging performs more like a group chat. When the message comes through you can see sender and the other recipients of the message. When you reply it gets sent to the group. I believe it has become more popular due to iphone usage...