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i have been trying to find this out - why i need to do one????
You don't have to ... up to you .
It is for peace of mind .
It things don't workout or you don't like what you did ...
You can put the phone back to what it was !
If you wish to fly with no parachute ...
Then jump ...
Please let us know how the landing goes
Does the nandroid only back up the software and settings -
If i just download the rom from HTC then that will put it back to the latest official rom wont it..
i was under the impression that a Original hero was only 1 rom away?
You don't need a nandroid backup at all. I use it all the time though.
You just asked a question that Dan330 had already answered in his previous post... yes it backs up basically everything. There are a few things that it doesn't back up but they aren't too significant (They are left out to prevent further problems).
If you downloaded a rom from HTC well, Duh. Of course it will put it back to the official rom. If it's rootable, then you can just restore a nandroid backup if you wanna go back to what you had before. Hopefully the HTC rom doesn't prevent you from rooting otherwise you won't be able to.
What the heck do you mean Original Hero was 1 rom away? Huh?
HTC Rom image will restore the rom.
A 'normal' data backup will store the data, ie drag from the SD card.
You can reinstall any marketplace apps from the marketplace.
The Google cloud will store calendar, contacts, mail, etc.
For the average user, nandroid is not necessary. But I understand the usefulness to a rom cooking enthusiast and the speed of a single backup. All the averages do not need to worry about nandroid though.
thank you cbailey
and sorry KAwAtA i was rushing to work - and talking crap at the same time...
I never even thought that HTC would try and stop you from rooting the phone....
just always thought that having a unbranded HTC ment i can install any rom at any time, and still install the latest HTC Rom if i wanted.
Very New to Rooting. so i need a few weeks to catch up.
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
Lennyuk said:
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
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Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
ddotpatel said:
Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
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Nandroid takes a complete image of your phone as it is, will restore it all exactly as it was at the time you backed it up.
if your looking to change roms then you need to use another app to backup your data and apps.
Aha,... Nice one Lenny!!
nandroid backup
having problems.. Im using the old ra for some reason it doesnt let me perform an nandroid back up... I tried teh newer ra same problm...any suggestions???
Hey! I'm a little new to the rooting and such on a
Android phone but yesterday I rooted and
installed Fresh Rom 1.1 on my Sprint Hero, and I
was wondering where is a good website to
download themes for this Rom? And if there is
any tips/cool things/ ect. ect. that you can do
with a rooted phone tell me please. Cause I'm a
noob as I said. . Thanks
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best advice I can give is read the how to WIKI's BEFORE doing anything else. ALWAYS read the first post of any rom that you want to try then re-read it just to make sure you understand if there are any problems and or fixes. also ALWAYS make a nandroid BEFORE you change anything with your phone. after all that just watch the boards and check out all the cool stuff.
edit: and I forgot the search button is in the upper right of the screen and will save you a lot of grief from the flamers
Thanks dood.
I just rooted mine, too and all I can say is read read read read. Try different things you're cmfortable with, and just enjoy how much better it is rooted.
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
Kcarpenter said:
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
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Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
schnoz said:
Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
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Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
I'd say that you should make a backup copy every time you change anything significant, or anything you do while booting in recovery.
Its probably not necessary to do it as often as I do, but I figure a few extra minutes of waiting for it to finish is worth not having the frustration of not being able to revert to a past state if something screwy happens.
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Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
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I used the 'static wiki page how-to' for getting everything done, I think they supplied a link to this one: recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img, which I guess is outdated... I'll look for the 1.6.2 version instead. You are correct, my first nandroid is the stock + root and I did save this to my computer, but I haven't nandroided since then because I didn't think I needed to. I think I will nandroid again now that I am on 2.1 ROM and then nandroid whenever I mess around with the recovery / new ROMS. Thanks guys.
For the 1.6.2, do I just repeat the sticky how-to for installing this recovery? I don't want to mess anything up since I already have the 1.5.2 recovery installed. Will it just overwrite?
I accidentally blasted my stock recovery backup... can someone put one up? would that even work (me restoring someone elses stock recovery)?
The clockworks won't let me power off the phone while its in the charger and I don't want to RUU if I don't have to.
Thanks
grunge315 said:
I accidentally blasted my stock recovery backup... can someone put one up? would that even work (me restoring someone elses stock recovery)?
The clockworks won't let me power off the phone while its in the charger and I don't want to RUU if I don't have to.
Thanks
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Its NEVER a good idea to try to restore a backup from a different phone to your device. Just run the RUU and do over. Then store the new nandroid backup to your hard drive on your pc as an extra precaution.
powered by the tears of a million orphaned alpacas...
oboroninja said:
Its NEVER a good idea to try to restore a backup from a different phone to your device. Just run the RUU and do over. Then store the new nandroid backup to your hard drive on your pc as an extra precaution.
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I would suggest that also
I am not trying to restore the ROM, just the recovery.
Oh well, RUU isn't too bad.
grunge315 said:
I am not trying to restore the ROM, just the recovery.
Oh well, RUU isn't too bad.
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whats wrong with your recovery?
riggsandroid said:
whats wrong with your recovery?
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It is Clockwork?
He doesn't like the bug that doesn't allow you to have your phone off while on the charger. I don't blame him.
Evo_Shift said:
He doesn't like the bug that doesn't allow you to have your phone off while on the charger. I don't blame him.
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I fully agree. When I have some time this weekend, I am going to look into porting amon_ra's recovery to the shift.
cloverdale said:
I fully agree. When I have some time this weekend, I am going to look into porting amon_ra's recovery to the shift.
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Does anyone know if the Heroc has this issue with CWM? I don't recall ever running into this bug...
Exactly. I can't bump charge the phone, and since there are no roms that interest me currently or a way to do a nandroid that will capture the wimax keys I don't really see a reason to keep clockwork on it.
Please someone come out with a clockwork for our device that works, preferably with full ROM manager support
grunge315 said:
Exactly. I can't bump charge the phone, and since there are no roms that interest me currently or a way to do a nandroid that will capture the wimax keys I don't really see a reason to keep clockwork on it.
Please someone come out with a clockwork for our device that works, preferably with full ROM manager support
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apparently this is a bug with CWM in general. or so I've read.
i have a problem related... i have a S5830, with Froyo 2.2.2, i was try intall CWM, but later the recovery don't load, but the SO load corectly, somebody say me this problem is because the CWM is only for Ginger, my question is... i can restore my recovery to the original??
PD: sorry for my english
Only if you already have a nand backup. Otherwise your going to have to RUU back to stock and start over.
Is there a reason that I don't have nandroid backup on ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4? My backup and restore menu only has "backup" and "restore". I'm being picky but the word nandroid is nowhere in these menus.
tinpanalley said:
Is there a reason that I don't have nandroid backup on ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4? My backup and restore menu only has "backup" and "restore". I'm being picky but the word nandroid is nowhere in these menus.
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Back up is what you are looking for. No recovery has the phrase Nandroid Backup
Oh, ok.. Weird. I could have sworn the clockwork version I used to use on my 3G Slide actually said "nandroid backup" in the menu.
Just wanted to make sure I actually did the right kind of backup. Then, no matter what I flash now, as long as I restore this file, I'm back to where I am right now, correct?
Affirmitive. Saved my bacon many times now...
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yep, just make sure you store your backup on a harddrive and or offsite storage to make sure you dont lose it.
And two more things to confirm:
1. Will the Titanium backup I did for my apps and settings will reload in any new ROM flawlessly?
2. Do I really not need a stock T-Mo ROM to go back to? The backup will restore perfectly as though my phone had never been flashed to being with?
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yep, just make sure you store your backup on a harddrive and or offsite storage to make sure you dont lose it.
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Drop box works wonders for this.
tinpanalley said:
Oh, ok.. Weird. I could have sworn the clockwork version I used to use on my 3G Slide actually said "nandroid backup" in the menu.
Just wanted to make sure I actually did the right kind of backup. Then, no matter what I flash now, as long as I restore this file, I'm back to where I am right now, correct?
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Let me rephrase that. Clockwork ROM doesn't use that phrasing. some other developers might...
tinpanalley said:
And two more things to confirm:
1. Will the Titanium backup I did for my apps and settings will reload in any new ROM flawlessly?
2. Do I really not need a stock T-Mo ROM to go back to? The backup will restore perfectly as though my phone had never been flashed to being with?
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1. As long as there is not an issue with the ROM, or a bad download or something, Titanium will restore your apps and data.
2. If you do not have a ROM backed up at all, it is a good idea to make a backup of the stock just in case something goes wrong. After you have a couple backups, there is really no reason to keep the stock ROM...
Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
Exactly what i was looking for, thanks! :]
Thanks! I was looking for this as well, in the process of creating a complete backup with amon ra. Was kinda wondering what I should flash tho, sense bores me
I've had them all, and I'm locked in MIUI now
So you're saying backup the following?
Boot
System
Data
Recovery
Wimax
Sd-ext
.andriod-secure
that's everything but cache - why not cache?
Also, what's a good rom if Battery life is most important... one that undervolts?
Cache is just temp files. You don't need them, but everything else, yes.
You only need boot data system and Wimax. I reccomend using a format all zip between rom flashes.
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What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
gab2012 said:
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
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This thread isn't the place for help rooting. Plenty of others, or post in Q&A.
Key thing is to backup, at least, your WIMAX. It's almost impossible to lose your WIMAX partition anymore, but better be safe than sorry.
You could nandroid everything.. but it's kind of pointless. There are RUUs out to flash back to stock, and zips you can flash too. Mainly just ease of use since the nandroid will already be on your SDcard.
Also as hipkat says, do yourself a favor and don't use ROM Manager. Don't use CWM recovery either (well, it's up to you but it's pretty old now). Amon_RA is the mature stable recovery, and the TeamWin recovery is the new kid on the block... functional but not as robust yet.
Sorry about that lad, and yeah I will backup everything if I can get the damn thing to work
It looks like quite a few people are having issues. Just hang tight and see if there is a fix.
Also check the guide over in the development section to make sure you got the step %100.
Well, I just got it!, uninstalled HTC sync and drivers, reinstalled the HTC drivers and ran the .exe zerging root passed!
Said no to Clockwork and installed Amon RA from fastboot, then flashed SU and now I'm ready to backup
dsotm82 said:
What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
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I use SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu from the market. Haven't had any problems so far.
HipKat said:
Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
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+1 - I would recommend getting Root Explorer and flashing a kernel to help extend the battery. You may also look into WIFI Tether
Thanks for this defiantly useful...time to start flashing
Thanks for the reminder, I am new to rooting this phone. (Not new to rooting, had HTC phones from G1 and MT3G, in those I am GTG.) Installed CM7 latest one. But I am interested in MIUI ones and the videos looks awesome!!!
MIUI has come a long way form when I tried it a few months ago...
Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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Rvinfinite said:
Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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NP! That's why I'm here!