Hello friends,
Something really strange has happend today, I connected my SGS to KIES and got a message saying "new firmware upgrade available"... You all can guess what was my first thought.
But no, it wasn't Froyo ,it was the same firmware that I previously had??? I really don't get what's going on, I live in Mexico, my phone was bought on UK online, and my phone CSC is from TMN (Portugal).
Not using any custom firmware, I have only rooted and installed voodoo lagfix, absolutely nothing else.
Any one else having same "upgrade" available?
By the way, this is the upgrade:
Model Name: GT-I9000
Current Version: PDA:JM8 / Phone:JM4 / CSC:JM1
Latest Version: PDA:JM8 / Phone:JM4 / CSC:JM1
Just wanted to let you know about this since I didn't found anything related in the forums today.
Cheers
I got exactly the same thing :|
Only this is a canadian SGS on canadian soil, no reg was done and it's all just the same JH2 all over the place :|
Minor fix maybe?
I confirm the same in India but should we upgrade or not??????
Same here in the UK.
PDA:JM1 / PHONE:JM1 / CSC:JM1 and I'm offered the same thing...
Really To update or not to update, that is the question...
I tried to upgrade, but my workplace's firewall keeps blocking download...
maybe it's some kind of minor update before being able to move to froyo?
tried it again and now it says latest version is installed
shreeindia said:
tried it again and now it says latest version is installed
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Very strange. Same here.
That is strange, sounds like a false alarm... or some kind of testing from Samsung.
testing i suppose
Got this as a work phone a few weeks back, am on the Bell network in Canada. I had the same upgrade message this morning, and did upgrade.
Do not see of feel anything different, if anyone has any specific info they want me to search on the phone - let me know
Regards
GT-I9000HKDXEU e GT-I9000HKDITV donìt work
FWIW and should anyone be interested
As noted - have had the phone for about three weeks now, and it is a bone stock phone - being used on the Bell Network. I grabbed the details from the phone, as after a few hours of use, the unit does appear to be much more responsive and "quick". This of course could just be a placebo effect.
Model: GT-I9000M
Firmware: 2.1 update 1
Baseband: I9000UGJH2
Kernel: 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build: Eclair.UGJH2
I did not catalog the details before the upgrade - so do not know if anything has been changed.
Regards,
I don't think much has changed on your phone details, maybe you just got some system files overwritten. Did your phone language change after installing update? ,or did you loose any configuration you had previously set?
gtluis said:
I don't think much has changed on your phone details, maybe you just got some system files overwritten. Did your phone language change after installing update? ,or did you loose any configuration you had previously set?
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Doesn't KIES basically nuke the phone and put the new firmware over, minus the internal and external SDs? As in you lose your apps and configs?
gtluis said:
I don't think much has changed on your phone details, maybe you just got some system files overwritten. Did your phone language change after installing update? ,or did you loose any configuration you had previously set?
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All installed apps were gone - all email settings, etc were gone as well. Seemed like a new flash, had to reset my Google account info as well.
language did not change
Regards,
when I updated from JM1 to JM8 through KIES I didn't loose anything, my phone kept all apps, and configurations, but my language and other configurations got lost...
Seems like you flashed "same" firmware again, hopefully a better than you previously had, your phone's performance improvement might be due to loosing all apps.
Apart from that, everything is the same? did you loose any carrier customization? or get new apps you didn't had before?
philidor said:
GT-I9000HKDXEU e GT-I9000HKDITV donìt work
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What's the status you received ?
No update available or this device couldn't be updated ?
I guess it's somewhat different...
Thanks
I had same offer on kies few weeks ago.. but only with “test mode on“... on the latest version of kies im not able turn test mode on anymore..
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Val3r10 said:
What's the status you received ?
No update available or this device couldn't be updated ?
I guess it's somewhat different...
Thanks
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with XEU Kies give me only JM1
gtluis said:
when I updated from JM1 to JM8 through KIES I didn't loose anything, my phone kept all apps, and configurations, but my language and other configurations got lost...
Seems like you flashed "same" firmware again, hopefully a better than you previously had, your phone's performance improvement might be due to loosing all apps.
Apart from that, everything is the same? did you loose any carrier customization? or get new apps you didn't had before?
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Everything is the same - did not loose any carrier customization, no new apps. As noted, it does "seem" a bit quicker, and I do not think the two apps I had installed make the difference ( APNDroid and Vizbattery widget ) I have since re-installed the two apps, and the phone feels just as quick.
The one complaint I had from the start was the low volume on the ear piece for incoming calls. At full volume - I was having trouble hearing the people on the other end. That appears to be a bit better. I will keep an eye on that - as noted, has been my number one complaint to date.
Regards,
PS - doubt anything has really changed - probably just the fact of an update makes me think it is different / better in some way.
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Just flashed my phone via kies to JG4
Does the Optus My Account widget work?
There is a problem showing your usage....
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband I9000DTJG3
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build: Eclair.DTJG4
hernit said:
Does the Optus My Account widget work?
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loool, i was wondering the same thing!
JG4
spenceee said:
Just flashed my phone via kies to JG3
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There is a problem showing your usage....
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband I9000DTJG3
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build: Eclair.DTJG4
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Don't you mean I9000DTJG4. ie. JG4
Might like to update the thread Title.
I'm thinking of reflashing my OPTUS SGS back onto JG4 OPTUS firmware.
Wondering about my warrantee even though I bought it unlocked through an OPTUS reseller not through OPTUS.
You got it through Kies is a pretty good acheivement in itself with all the negative responses out their about Kies.
Ancient_One said:
Don't you mean I9000DTJG4. ie. JG4
Might like to update the thread Title.
I'm thinking of reflashing my OPTUS SGS back onto JG4 OPTUS firmware.
Wondering about my warrantee even though I bought it unlocked through an OPTUS reseller not through OPTUS.
You got it through Kies is a pretty good acheivement in itself with all the negative responses out their about Kies.
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I've gotten 4 updates through Kies on the Korean phone, a guy I send PMs to on here just got an OTA update yesterday which surprised the hell out of me.
*EDIT* He is also in Korea on the Korean version. And 2 of my firmware updates might count as one since they came bundled, but I think they were separate releases and I just happened to get both at once.
I guess I am not able to update to this versoin because I flashed with JM2 ??
What if I flash with soemthing like JG1 ? Will I be able to upgrade ?
One more question, how does kies knows that it's an optus device ? Is it the IMEI or the Sim card or the current ROM ??
Thnaks
oswade said:
loool, i was wondering the same thing!
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SAME
and plz pack it 4 us if it work
thx
Yay first update completed. now have a task manager that wasn't there before, lost all contacts and apps, is it supposed to keep these? could be annoying if have to restore from back up every time there's an update.
Did it fix the lag and GPS-issue?
Kies Sync Problem after upgrading
Hi,
I upgraded my Samsung Galaxy S to the new JG4 firmware.
I have the following builds:
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband I9000DTJG3
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build: Eclair.DTJG4
The problem is that after upgrading Kies i can no longer connect back to my phone.
The MTP USB Device driver comes up with an error as soon as Kies fires up. The old version of Kies had no problems but the latest release has some real issues.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Peter
Thought I'd use mybackup pro before I try out this jg4 update. I havn't rooted yet - will I still be able to backup all the app and data needed? I guess the important bit to know is - what can't I backup because I'm not on root. Probably should figure that out before backing it up and going to the update!
jamessimon said:
Yay first update completed. now have a task manager that wasn't there before, lost all contacts and apps, is it supposed to keep these? could be annoying if have to restore from back up every time there's an update.
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Flashing your phone removes applications, contact, email and everything you hold dear hence why in most of the trheads it say's to back this up using the available backup programs.
Lost settings, contacts and apps after upgrade
I am new to Android and the SGS. Is it normal to lose everything when upgrading the firmware?
I lost everything also! This is my first time updating android firmware and coming from an iPhone I wasn't expecting it. I don't recall seeing a warning message, but I may have missed it as it took several attempts to get kies working. Searching the HDD for dll files/renaming/moving around just to get the update to work is bit much to ask!
Unfortunately it hasn't done anything to fix the GPS problems, I can't get a location after trying for an hour. Have had trouble with wifi in the past, but this seems to be resolved now.
It seems that Market is broken in this official firmware
I can't find Skies of Glory or MSN Talk Pro
It turns out that all protected applications are not shown in Market - pretty lame from Samsung.
Poor effort
Sorry Samsung, but to lose all your contacts, settings and downloaded applications while updating (and without any warning) is a very poor effort regardless of any improvements that may have been made. This is very disappointing and unprofessional and the update should be withdrawn until these problems are resolved. F grade.
Regarding Kies not connecting to the SGS. I had that problem prior to updating and tried many things to resolve it. Eventually, formating the SD card fixed this issue for me.
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Regarding Kies not connecting to the SGS. I had that problem prior to updating and tried many things to resolve it. Eventually, formating the SD card fixed this issue for me.
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I can confirm this is the case. It would appear other applications are creating the issue on the phone with 16digit extentions or files. After an internal SD format kies worked correctly.
I have to agree with you all in theory.
Even flashing the firmware on say a Nokia phone, a message comes up asking you to backup your data prior to upgrade as you will loose it on the phone. Samsung have poorly implimented this in Kies. It will flash the firmware but give you no warning of the implications.
I guess you could also argue that this is an Android phone and not a iPhone. Things are done differently in Android then in iPhone and maybe a bit of reading might have identified that you should always back up you data prior to flashing the firmware.
That being said Kies should have an inbuilt ability to backup and restore your data and applications if they are also offering to flash the firmware.
Wish you all luck with it.
jamessimon said:
Yay first update completed. now have a task manager that wasn't there before, lost all contacts and apps, is it supposed to keep these? could be annoying if have to restore from back up every time there's an update.
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Yep, I find this a serious serious problem without a working KIES. I don't want to be forced to surrender personal info to google. MyBackUp steals the info to the cloud even if you wanted to backup just to the storage card.
How does this compare to JM2 to those who had tried both, in terms of lag and GPS accuracy?
Rooting is not what a typical consumer will do..so how can you officially back up in android?
So samsung must had a serious bug in kies it shouldn't remove your apps.
I Odin to m2 n yes I lost all my apps but I was expecting that fair enough but from kies cmon
Though my contacts being sync to google that was ok...
According to the three galaxy s blog : blog.three.co.uk/2010/07/28/video-samsung-galaxy-s-on-three/#comments
Froyo was live on keis on Friday, yet it still isn't showing up for me
Current Version : PDA:JG2 / Phone:JG1 / CSC: JF2
Anyone else upgraded officially from three
I will check that at home tonight. Will let you know in a few hours time.
It may take a while to get around to everyone.
I would wait a few hours and see if the update appears.
No update for me.
PDA: JG3 PHONE: JG1 CSC: GPG
"The device's version cannot be updated"
Hmm - There seems to be an update to Kies though. Wonder if it's related? Downloading now...
Oh well, updated Kies and still no Froyo update despite it having been 'available since Friday'
Same thing here ... got excited by the Kies update thinking I'll have Froyo afterwards
We'll just have to accept that Three are incompetent
I spoke to a Three Tele Team , He told me that It was a Beta Testing and got Out Mistakenly , And he confirmed its not Live at this Moment and he also confirmed that its coming out this Week Definetly ... and he told That you people will like the Froyo Update From Three ...
I dono if they also have people there like XDA , who do Lagfix and other Fixes .... Becz My Orignal 2.1 Three ROM had no LAG no , problems at all ....
Ah well, another day passes and no froyo for me, darnit!
Mmm now that would be lovely -- a fast stable Froyo I do experience lag from time to time -- esp sometimes when receiving a phone call ...
dvance said:
Mmm now that would be lovely -- a fast stable Froyo I do experience lag from time to time -- esp sometimes when receiving a phone call ...
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I get that sometimes......usually after three bottles of wine
Not sure whether anyone in this thread will be able to help, but I've got a Galaxy S on Three and am wondering how it'll react when Froyo finally arrives.
You see, in a fit of frustration last month when Samsung said 2.2 was out for the Galaxy S, then suddenly said it wasn't unless you were Norwegian - I tried the Kies registry hack.
That caused weirdness with my phone, and ended up with leaving it only starting in recovery mode. Eventually Kies decided to reflash, and I seem to have ended up with some kind of unbranded firmware.
It shows up in Kies as PDA:JM2/PHONE:JM1/CSC:JM1, and says "This device's version cannot be updated".
Anyone know whether the release of the Three version of Froyo will fix this?
Thanks!
monkeyhat said:
Not sure whether anyone in this thread will be able to help, but I've got a Galaxy S on Three and am wondering how it'll react when Froyo finally arrives.
You see, in a fit of frustration last month when Samsung said 2.2 was out for the Galaxy S, then suddenly said it wasn't unless you were Norwegian - I tried the Kies registry hack.
That caused weirdness with my phone, and ended up with leaving it only starting in recovery mode. Eventually Kies decided to reflash, and I seem to have ended up with some kind of unbranded firmware.
It shows up in Kies as PDA:JM2/PHONE:JM1/CSC:JM1, and says "This device's version cannot be updated".
Anyone know whether the release of the Three version of Froyo will fix this?
Thanks!
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You wont be able to upgrade with 3 unless you get your old software back and the only way i know possible is by using the kies registry patcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835628
This morning connected my Galaxy Tab to KIES and it prompted that there is an update !!
it took ages to download its binary files then finally after it got done, it gave me a decryption error !!
I have changed my sales code to gain access to market, could this be the problem or do i redownload the files !!
Isn't there a way to UPGRADE fw via OTA? or placing update.zip in root of sd nd flashing from recovery? (similar to HTC devices)
how do I upgrade to the latest version? help please
Cheers
Jackie
PS: Please find attached the firmware code : current and new !
Are you UK based Jackie? Just guessing as you said cheers! I've seen nothing this morning though have read there was an Android Market update which I had already downloaded and applied, maybe why I'm seeing no update.
no I'm based in UAE !! that's just teh way I speak !!
Ah right, nice to read it all the same, Cheers!
so anyone has any idea?
Jackie,
I don't bother with Kies.... It put my SGS in a right mess and couldn't be used until I sorted it out with another ROM and a different PC software upgrader by the name of Odin.
Your best bet is to go on over to samfirmware.com and check out the latest ROM's available.
I'm sending you also a link which although was written for the SGS and Froyo it's still relevant for ROM files for the Tab and how to use Odin.
See here:- How to use Odin to Upgrade the SGS to Froyo
Beards said:
Jackie,
I don't bother with Kies.... It put my SGS in a right mess and couldn't be used until I sorted it out with another ROM and a different PC software upgrader by the name of Odin.
Your best bet is to go on over to samfirmware.com and check out the latest ROM's available.
I'm sending you also a link which although was written for the SGS and Froyo it's still relevant for ROM files for the Tab and how to use Odin.
See here:- How to use Odin to Upgrade the SGS to Froyo
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How do I know which is the latest ROM is for my TAB !
I checked out samfirmware, but it has loads of firmwares !
I'll check out what to do with ODIN though !
Thanks a lot
Cheers
jackie_jagger said:
How do I know which is the latest ROM is for my TAB !
I checked out samfirmware, but it has loads of firmwares !
I'll check out what to do with ODIN though !
Thanks a lot
Cheers
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First, what ROM version do you currently have installed?
Next, look at the list of ROM's available see here.
You need to find out if you are on a European, Asian, Arabic, etc ROM and decide if you want to stay on that list or opt to another nation list.
For European lists JMA is the latest. There's a topic on JMA here.
PDA: P1000JPJJ2
Phone: P1000JXJJ1
CSC: P1000OJPJJ3
is what is being reported on *#1234# and samfirmware says this is the Arabic firmware and the latest for Arabic is P1000JVJL1 December 2010, not that I'm interested in any of the region specific apps - just wondering what has been fixed in these firmwares and also if flashing would delete all my data (I'm guessing it would)
I don't mind flashing a European firmware too, so which would be best?
PS: Tab is currently rooted with OCLF set ! =)
Cheers
Hi may i ask if you do firmware update does the tab have to be sim free not lock to a network as im on t-mobile uk, i dont want to brick my tab
thanks
jackie_jagger said:
PDA: P1000JPJJ2
Phone: P1000JXJJ1
CSC: P1000OJPJJ3
is what is being reported on *#1234# and samfirmware says this is the Arabic firmware and the latest for Arabic is P1000JVJL1 December 2010, not that I'm interested in any of the region specific apps - just wondering what has been fixed in these firmwares and also if flashing would delete all my data (I'm guessing it would)
I don't mind flashing a European firmware too, so which would be best?
PS: Tab is currently rooted with OCLF set ! =)
Cheers
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It should not delete any data.
The browser and camera have been improved.
The browser now scrolls smoother.
The camera focus's much better.
No idea what other improvements have been made.
It does not really matter which firmware you wish to use BUT bear in mind a number of users who have performed a lagfix have had issues in upgrading the ROM.
You MUST ensure you remove any lagfix applied otherwise you stand a good chance in bricking the phone.
Also, ensure you have access to the Recovery and download mode.
You will need this if you 'brick' the phone.
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Hi may i ask if you do firmware update does the tab have to be sim free not lock to a network as im on t-mobile uk, i dont want to brick my tab
thanks
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You need someone who is on a T-Mobile locked phone to answer this. I have heard of users on carrier networks who have run into issues.
Basically, unless you have a sound knowledge in what you are doing I would not attempt it until you get good solid advice.
seems like a long procedure, I'll hold off until i'm done with my exams....
also should I try KIES again? just in case ?? o.0
jackie_jagger said:
seems like a long procedure, I'll hold off until i'm done with my exams....
also should I try KIES again? just in case ?? o.0
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You can try but I'd still make sure you have access to recovery and download first, just in case anything goes wrong.
Aight !! thanks a bunch !! will do
Got a similar problem... info says its P1000XXJID, valid euro firmware... Bought the tab in Hungary (Middle of europe), carrier free, and after looking at samfirmware.com's ROM list I was wondering about the updates.
Kies tells me this version can't be updated...
Can anyone help me with this problem?
Many, Many of us here in UK are having problems and are unsuccessful when trying to update/upgrade using Kies.
Hopefully Kies will get fixed properly to allow us all to use it.
ziffos said:
Many, Many of us here in UK are having problems and are unsuccessful when trying to update/upgrade using Kies.
Hopefully Kies will get fixed properly to allow us all to use it.
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Even ActiveSync was better... at least it didn't offer the SW update...
to trick kies to update u could use kies registry patcher. I have sucsessfully updated via kies from jj3 -> jj7 (when no updates was availible)
read thru this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863386
Use the info from check fus and paste it in registry patcher, reboot pc - start kies - connect phone - something should happen.
I haven't found this mentioned elsewhere on the forum but this afternoon I was notified of a KJ4/KJ4/KJ4(DBT) to KK9/KK5/KK9(DBT) upgrade by Kies.
(I'm posting here because it is not a "ROM Development" post.)
Based on feedback in the thread I believe the update only applies to phones sourced from Germany, such as those supplied by amazon.de. There will be a (DBT) suffix after the KK4 bit
I'm afraid I can't answer questions about the contents of the update or provide any technical advice about installation. I don't have the answers. I'm just bringing the availability of the update to people's attention. Hopefully, if you do have questions, someone with more knowledge of these things will chime in. This is my first Samsung phone and I've never been through the Kies update procedure before.
FWIW I'm doing a full Titanium Backup of everything and also a backup in Kies. I have not yet applied the update. I did try to do a Nandroid backup, but without installing CWM the option to backup is not available, and apart from rooting with Zerglings I do not want to mess with the phone beyond that.
Thanks, updated my EU Note to 2.3.6 and KK9 from 2.3.5 and KJ4.
P.S. lost root. Going to do a factory reset, root and reinstall my apps with titanium backup.
P.P.S. re-rooted the Note using Easy Rooting Toolkit, can't install CWM yet since there is not a version for KK9 yet.
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
this is my 1st Android phone, do I need to backup before update if it's available from system update? Thanks
System update on the phone did not find any new update for me.
You need to connect the Note to Kies and a pop up box should come up to let you know there is an update, the whole process was around 15 mins in my case.
I think Kies will auto backup your phone before install the new update, and all your apps and files should be there when the update is done as this update does not wipe your device.
Just did the update, it shows now 2.3.6 . Le't see the improvements
Steelduines said:
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
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Have you changed your product code to something other than it came stock? (i.e. have you changed CSC manually).
If you have - you will need to change it back to the original one and then Kies will let you update.
Let us know improvement you've noticed so far...
My phone is on PDA:KK2 / PHONE:KK1 / CSC:KK2 (TTT) and won't update...
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Have you changed your product code to something other than it came stock? (i.e. have you changed CSC manually).
If you have - you will need to change it back to the original one and then Kies will let you update.
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Nope I didn't change anything on my Note it's completely stock....
Edit:
N7000XXKJ4
CSC:OXAKJ4
My upgrade is complete. I didn't time it but it seemed to proceed very slowly - I can't imagine what it was doing that could take so long - and then timed out part way through the process. I restarted from the beginning and it all went through OK, but again very slowly.
I could not get Kies to backup my data prior to the upgrade as it kept giving an error. I don't know whether that was anything to do with having rooted the phone, so I unrooted as a precaution and decided just to get on with the upgrade.
I didn't unroot, but normally, i lose root after flashing.
After that rooted with the simple zergRush method, working like a charm.
What version of kies were you using
I am not getting the update.
I get what I've attached in Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I bought my Note from Negrielectronics, I think it's Polish, but I've left it stock.
Think its country specific?
I am not sure if it's country specific.
Can anybody who has received the update say whether or not it makes the UI less laggy?
Steelduines said:
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
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I have the same problem the other day when I tried it with mine.....
Is yours Polish Version? Mine is, and I got it from handtec....
Will try it again soon, and if it doesn't work...I will have to make a complaint to handtec!!!
virtuatony said:
I am not getting the update.
I get what I've attached in Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I bought my Note from Negrielectronics, I think it's Polish, but I've left it stock.
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I dont know if it's about the country where you are. I've read in the one development forum thread that you might have to do a factory reset. Many people reply that it worked for them...
rdosti said:
What version of kies were you using
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Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I don't know how Samsung has all this organised, but my Note is a European model from amazon.de and I am running Kies from within the UK.
My Note was on KJ4/4/4. If your Note is on some other ROM version at the moment then I doubt very much that you will get the update to KK9/5/9.
I did not have to perform a factory wipe before or after the upgrade. As far as I can tell everything is intact but now I am on 2.3.6 instead of 2.3.5.
hmm, kies is still telling me KJ4 is the latest. polish version here.
stock rom untouched,
PDA: KJ4 PHONE: KJ4 CSC: KJ3 (PLS)
Hi, i just ordered an xperia arc s,bafter telling myself ill never buy a non google experience phone due to update issues with non google phones, cos the arc s just looks so nice and distinguished. So now i have a question about how updates work.
As far as i know from experience, updates are carrier based. For example i had a lg optimus before this, and its european version was slightly lagging behind with bug fix updates than my us carrier version, and short of custom rom, there was no way to oficially update the software to eu version.
With the arc s, my phone is unlocked, internstional version, bought off amazon. As far as i can tell its similar to the ones SE sells on its website which arent locked to any specific carrier. How do the updates on these official carrier free sim unlocked phones work? Are they quicker since they are not carrier dependent? Or are they on European schedule since this is an european phone? Im looking forward to ics and hope i get it soon,bso if someone could educate me id appreciate it..
Non carrier phones get it faster than branded ones.
ICS will come in April to Arc (S)
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Flash whatever firmware you wish mate.
First thing I did was erase the branded fw and flash a generic fw.
Sent from my Arc via transwarp beacon.
Lord Takyon said:
Flash whatever firmware you wish mate.
First thing I did was erase the branded fw and flash a generic fw.
Sent from my Arc via transwarp beacon.
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Ive read guide upon guide of flashing different firmware, but for the life of me just can never figure it out. So for now im staying away fromm it. I actually think sonys android skin is pretty nice. Once sony leaves behind the device from updates then sure ill flash a different firmware, for now though the convenience of ota uodates, which are available for official firmwares but not for hacked ones, is too much to give up.
There's nothing wrong with the se skin, I prefer modded stock roms to miui/cm7. The branding is from the carrier, but if yours is a generic rom then there shouldn't be much to remove. Mines was sim-free but there are still delays to updates region-wise, which is why I unlocked my bootloader. Flashing roms is pretty straightforward once you have flashtool/fastboot/cwm.
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zanky said:
Ive read guide upon guide of flashing different firmware, but for the life of me just can never figure it out. So for now im staying away fromm it. I actually think sonys android skin is pretty nice. Once sony leaves behind the device from updates then sure ill flash a different firmware, for now though the convenience of ota uodates, which are available for official firmwares but not for hacked ones, is too much to give up.
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Use flashtool, it is really simple. Just go slow the first time so you don't make any errors.
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So i just received my phone in canada (Lt18i), the international version, since im not using it in canada, its a gift for someone in europe. The box was sealed when i got it, and it said for sale in france, and it has a bunch of crap installed apps like canal+, warnervod, etc. does this mean this is specific to some carrier and thu would have carrier dependent updates? I was really hoping since it unlocked i wouldnt have all this junk on it. Itmdoesnt have any references though to any carrier in the documentation, neither does it have any carrier specific apps i can see. The version on it is 0.42 and it says no updates available. I did read about some 0.62 version out there.
So i have a few questions off topic:
- can i remove the crapware without rooting my phone? I tried es explorer but it tells me uninstll not successful for those apps.
- i did a factory reset the first time, and now the default pictures thwt came with it to show off the beautiful screen are also gone. I found the default ringtones and notificwtion by searching but have not found the default pics. Anybody got a source as to where to find these?
- if i want to stick with the sony software and sony updates, what is the downside of rooting my phone just to delete those bad apps? I read somewhere i lose ota update absility? True? Also can i root, delete the apps, and then unroot?
- what is the difference between simply rooting the device, and unlocking the bootloader, i thought they were both the same
Thanks
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So i have a few questions off topic:
- can i remove the crapware without rooting my phone? I tried es explorer but it tells me uninstll not successful for those apps.
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No.
zanky said:
- i did a factory reset the first time, and now the default pictures thwt came with it to show off the beautiful screen are also gone. I found the default ringtones and notificwtion by searching but have not found the default pics. Anybody got a source as to where to find these?
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If someone doesn't have them zipped already, I can probably find them on my phone and upload them.
zanky said:
- if i want to stick with the sony software and sony updates, what is the downside of rooting my phone just to delete those bad apps? I read somewhere i lose ota update absility? True? Also can i root, delete the apps, and then unroot?
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You do NOT lose OTA update abilities as long as you don't modify any system apps/files. e.g. notifications bar, battery indicator, etc.
Updates are based on whatever firmware you have on the phone.
e.g. I flashed my Rogers arc to a generic USA firmware. It typically gets updated 2-3 weeks before Rogers since they have to do their customization to it. Similarly, users will flash an international firmware or another region's if that region has released an update.
You can flash ANY firmware onto ANY arc and still get 3G in its coverage zone. (All firmwares contain BOTH software radios: i, a. However, HARDWARE is fixed: "a" radio, "i" radio and will ONLY get 3G in their respective coverage zones.)
That is, you can flash an "i" firmware onto an "a" phone and still get 3G in an "a" zone.
However, this does NOT work in reverse. You CANNOT flash an "i" firmware to get "i" 3G in an "i" zone on an "a" phone.
zanky said:
- what is the difference between simply rooting the device, and unlocking the bootloader, i thought they were both the same
Thanks
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Rooting = deeper access to the software on the phone. Does NOT allow you to load recoveries like ClockWorkMod or load non-Sony firmwares.
Bootloader unlocking (either paid or free) allows custom firmwares, overclocking, etc.
Flashing a (generic) firmware is quick and painless:
Backing up your current firmware:
Rooting:
Bootloader unlock process & FAQs:
You have no idea how helpful your info and those videos have been!! I think im actually going to attempt the generic rom thing especially because it says i dont even need to be rooted. And the vidos make it ridiculously easy to do it. After half a dozen guides this demystifies the whole process.
So just to confirm, if i update to a generic other rom, ill still be able to get ota updates based on that region? In your opinion which rom is the best for an lt18i? And by best i mean the one i can expect quickest updates on and with least amount of bloatware, cos i doubt there are or differences in them.European, north american. Or global generic?
Btw im on firmware 0.62 anything special i need to consider before attempting this?
This page has links to firmware for lt18i but no global. And the uk version is older. Should i just flash The uk version even though its older and then ota update?
Regarding the stock photos, would be awesome if you could zip and upload to your mediafire page, maybe other people can find them useful too.
P.s. your donate button is broken paypal says theres an issue with your email address.
BluechipJ said:
Updates are based on whatever firmware you have on the phone.
e.g. I flashed my Rogers arc to a generic USA firmware. It typically gets updated 2-3 weeks before Rogers since they have to do their customization to it. Similarly, users will flash an international firmware or another region's if that region has released an update.
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Ifna bump is acceptable, bump.
zanky said:
You have no idea how helpful your info and those videos have been!! I think im actually going to attempt the generic rom thing especially because it says i dont even need to be rooted. And the vidos make it ridiculously easy to do it. After half a dozen guides this demystifies the whole process.
So just to confirm, if i update to a generic other rom, ill still be able to get ota updates based on that region? In your opinion which rom is the best for an lt18i? And by best i mean the one i can expect quickest updates on and with least amount of bloatware, cos i doubt there are or differences in them.European, north american. Or global generic?
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Typically, Nordic gets updates first because Ericsson is Swedish. (From past observations, it typically goes Nordic, German, Hong Kong, UK, Asia, North America.)
zanky said:
Btw im on firmware 0.62 anything special i need to consider before attempting this?
This page has links to firmware for lt18i but no global. And the uk version is older. Should i just flash The uk version even though its older and then ota update?
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Nope. There isn't anything you need to "do". If you're concerned about data, use a backup program such as Sony's original Backup & Restore that came with the X10 (still works). (http://jp1.ca/androidstuff)
This link should have the latest "i" version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
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Regarding the stock photos, would be awesome if you could zip and upload to your mediafire page, maybe other people can find them useful too.
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Which folder(s) are you looking for?
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P.s. your donate button is broken paypal says theres an issue with your email address.
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Thanks. I'll update it!
The link you sent me only has a generic world for lt18i. This other thread i read though said that there is no such thing as generic world, and its just called that but its always for some region of the other. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210776&page=3)
Not sure how accurate that is but i dont see the nordic one on the link you sent me anyway
Also another thread said that there will always be 8-9 bloatware apps on any firmware such as canal+, warner vod, etc. is this true or false?
Lastly, say i find an older version of the nordic flash file, can i just flash that instead of the 0.62 and then just get an ota update? I didnt see france on your list of status of updates, any idea where that is?
As for pictures, not sure what folder but i believe there were some stock pics that came with the phone to show off the home screen photo widget. If you dont know what im talking about dont worry about it.
BluechipJ said:
Typically, Nordic gets updates first because Ericsson is Swedish. (From past observations, it typically goes Nordic, German, Hong Kong, UK, Asia, North America.)
Nope. There isn't anything you need to "do". If you're concerned about data, use a backup program such as Sony's original Backup & Restore that came with the X10 (still works). (http://jp1.ca/androidstuff)
This link should have the latest "i" version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
Which folder(s) are you looking for?
Thanks. I'll update it!
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The link you sent me only has a generic world for lt18i. This other thread i read though said that there is no such thing as generic world, and its just called that but its always for some region of the other. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210776&page=3)
Not sure how accurate that is but i dont see the nordic one on the link you sent me anyway
Also another thread said that there will always be 8-9 bloatware apps on any firmware such as canal+, warner vod, etc. is this true or false?
Lastly, say i find an older version of the nordic flash file, can i just flash that instead of the 0.62 and then just get an ota update? I didnt see france on your list of status of updates, any idea where that is?
As for pictures, not sure what folder but i believe there were some stock pics that came with the phone to show off the home screen photo widget. If you dont know what im talking about dont worry about it.
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Hi! I was on the same situation as you when I got my device as this was my 1st ever android device and I was also curious about firmware regions. So I tested each and every firmware region I could get on .42 and all I can say is there's not much difference on all of them.
1. is of all the regions there each firmware differs only by so called bloatwares.
2. there are only 2 major differences of all the regions. Asia region contains Chinese keyboard, Japanese Keyboard & international keyboard but no arabic support. While non-Asia regions only has International Keyboard included + arabic support.
That's pretty much about it. All others softwares are similar like baseband version, branding, kernel version, applications, themes, etc.