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does anyone overheat from using navigation? anyone know how to stop this?
Are you oc? Do you have set cpu? Is your phone in direct sunlight on your dash? If you are oc'd get setcpu and usue profiles. Make sure you turn down your speed if the temp gets over 40c
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i did that it still get hot, i turn it down to 346000 still getting hot
By hot, what temps are we talking? And what is your cpu clocked to?
40C i set the clock to 346XXX and still running hot
Yea I noticed driving over the weekend that the g2 definently overheats if navigation is left on for extended periods of time.
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damn after a couple of google search this happen on other android device...theres gotta be a way to solve this, i bet its the polling frequency its trying to poll the thing to damn neear perfect real time therefore making it hotter, i think if we can figure out how to lower the polling interval it will help, but i hate programing so i dont know
Me neither. It's even worse on my Xperia x10.
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Another question is if you have it charging while using navigation as that will definitely make the phone feel like it is overheating since the battery is getting warm from the charge.
mine always overheats lol
are you asking us or are you asking me? lol
Huh. Am I the only one who hasn't had this problem?
I run it on my dash, connected to USB power, constantly navigating and it never gets more than mildly warm. 246MHz-1.49GHz, interactive governor, CM6.1 RC2.
For the question about charging while navigating, yes that will def increase the heat coming from the phone. For guy who is "constantly" navi, are going long distances like over 20 miles at a time or navi short distances?
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Mine overheats (uncomfortable holding) after using Pandora over the night. Still runs fine just hot as F!
i noticed that aswell when navigating with the phone. what can we say we got hot phones eh? yeah yeah lame i know. but i hope this dosn't damage the phone. Btw my phone isnt OC only rooted running CM 1.6 RC 3
The backplate on the G2 is also metal, so it might only feel hotter to your hand as opposed to many other phones which have a plastic backplate. This is actually good for heat dissipation (heat can escape vs. being trapped by the insulating plastic), bad for your hands.
well that brings to me the question when is it consider dangerously hot?? 43C is the max i seen using navi
bump for anyone with a fix
This is nothing new. My N1 got really hot when plugged into the car dock and navigating.
It never caught on fire, and had no permanent damage. The worst part about it was the charger couldn't keep up with the phone. I would get to my destination, take the phone out of the dock, and it dies right away because the battery is dead. I haven't used the G2 for navigation on a long trip yet.
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Is me or this guy been open threads just to complaint about the g2 u may have bad luck with u unit because i never have none of the problems u talking about the zoom problem the resolution problem the overheating problem next thread will be hinges problem
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Hey guys & gals just wanted 2 share something with u. I recently decided 2 uninstall cetcpu from my phone & decided 2 go with cpu tuner instead.In doing so i've noticed my battery life improve significantly with some profile tweaking of course.If you've run the virtuous htc sence rom with the pershoot o.c kernal u know how disgusting the battery life can b.It literally sucks the juice out of your battery like "Debbie" from Debbie does Dallas sucks the juice out of...well u know. Anyway,i also noticed how little juice the system resources now use up. I included a screenshot of the battery status screen.Hope this helps anyone with battery issues especially if your running the rom & kernal mentioned above, it worked 4 maybe it can work 4 u. P.S I have the screen set to 20% brightness,gps,wifi,blutooth,autosync all disabled.Only reason i mention this is because even with all these things disabled along with a few other,b4 installing cpu tuner my battery would still drain like crazy. Thx.
That's some horrible grammar.
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That's some horrible grammar.
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Useless post, This isn't grade school or school period. If your worried about grammar over the Interwebz then i dont think you should be posting on a forum site.
Liek ma grammarz?
Anyway, Your saying the cpu tuner helps the battery life? I'll give this a go but I don't use any of the sense roms. I'm all for better battery life although I do get 15h on pershoots kernel running cm 6.1 stable.
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That's some horrible grammar.
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This qualifies to be douche bag of the day. Sadly, the internet has so many of this kind of people.
So does this site.
Back to topic, i will also give it a try
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Watch out every one,carefull when you post. Make sure you mind your p's & q's the grammar police is on patrol. If u don't like the way I post 2 bad. Don't read it.
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i have almost the exact same info on mine with setcpu oc to 1ghz on CM6.1 and i get atleast a full day of use with frequent music and texts. alot better then any other android phone.
I don't know how you guys are having such bad battery life. Currently at the moment I am at 22h 11m 51s since unplugged with 57% left. This is all with CM6.1 RC4 w/ wifi + wifi calling on all the time when I am home, autosync on for everything, auto brightness, and some use of gps. I listen to music on my phone for atleast 3+ hours walking to and from class + texting, browsing, facebook, twitter, fantasy league during class and the occasional call, pretty good usage. with setcpu on oc to 1ghz with some profiles set up.
what if im not running sense?
If it works with sense I would think it'd work with most everything else.
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Is the phone not quick enough at 1Ghz? I keep mines on stock speeds, have setcpu installed but don't use, and have CyanogensMod on it. I get the whole days worth plus more of battery. I can't even kill it when I want to recalibrate it.
A whole day for me is about 16-20 hours for me without charging. This is MADNESS!
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Is the phone not quick enough at 1Ghz? I keep mines on stock speeds, have setcpu installed but don't use, and have CyanogensMod on it. I get the whole days worth plus more of battery. I can't even kill it when I want to recalibrate it.
A whole day for me is about 16-20 hours for me without charging. This is MADNESS!
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Not that the phone is not fast enough. It's placebo effect where people "feel" that it needs to be faster when they overclock it at crazy speed. The G2 has already proved itself a speed monster, none of the android phones out there can top it right now. As for the battery life, I honestly don't notice any considerable improvement.
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This qualifies to be douche bag of the day. Sadly, the internet has so many of this kind of people.
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I just noticed your sig, and it made me giggle.
Utorrent76 said:
Watch out every one,carefull when you post. Make sure you mind your p's & q's the grammar police is on patrol. If u don't like the way I post 2 bad. Don't read it.
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I'm sure a lot of people won't.
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Nice.
At last check it's been 21hrs since i unplugged my phone & it's still @ 65% with moderate use.Personally I haven't been getting results this good since i made the switch so this makes me happy.
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I don't know how you guys are having such bad battery life. Currently at the moment I am at 22h 11m 51s since unplugged with 57% left. This is all with CM6.1 RC4 w/ wifi + wifi calling on all the time when I am home, autosync on for everything, auto brightness, and some use of gps. I listen to music on my phone for atleast 3+ hours walking to and from class + texting, browsing, facebook, twitter, fantasy league during class and the occasional call, pretty good usage. with setcpu on oc to 1ghz with some profiles set up.
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Hey Vulgrim what radio are you using?
I will try out CM 6.1 TONIGHT just to get the battery life.
I do find that the main culprit in dire lifecycles is 3G which unfortunately is what I use the most (nomadic lifestyle and all...)
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At last check it's been 21hrs since i unplugged my phone & it's still @ 65% with moderate use.Personally I haven't been getting results this good since i made the switch so this makes me happy.
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So what settings exactly are you using on the cpu tuner? Just wanted to know so I can replicate it.
My settings.
@quierotacobell...Under "Current" i have governor set to:conservative,Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz.
"Profiles":
Performancendemand-Max:1097Ghz,Min:768Mhz
Good:conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz
Normal:conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz
Power save:conservative-Max:1094Ghz,Min:768Mhz(services set to 2g)
Screen off:conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz
Extreme Power save:conservative-Max:768Mhz,Min:768Mhz(services set to 2g)
Keep in mind i have wifi,blutooth, & sync disabled all across the board.Also i'm simply stating what worked for me it's no guarantee it's going to work for you.
Hmm how can you get better battery life with CPU Tuner because the lowest you can go to minimum is 768?
Will try that out Utorrent, thanks.
Just a warning to all using the FreeX10/other 2.2+ performance ROMs that I experienced is the overheating of the device. This may only be me, but I'm posting this just in case.
Quick details of my X10:
Flashed to FreeX10 Beta #4 last night.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
Using the 3G (build.prop) enhancement modification.
I have a rubber casing around the phone.
Usually connected to WiFi.
My phone has been on since last night and has been charging for most of the time since then and now.
Just then, I decided to turn my phone off a couple of times. I did not notice the heat from just holding it. I was browsing here and read a thread about removing the battery, so I just did that for some reason. It wasn't until I opened the case when I could smell the smell of melted/hot plastic - it was coming from the battery. I immediately placed the open-phone and the battery in front of a cool fan, the battery and phone both started to cool down and the smell disappeared. I couldn't find any liquid/melted plastics anywhere on/in the phone, but I could definitely smell it.
Just a general friendly warning (that can't hurt). Not sure if it's documented or not, and whether this is only Froyo or below/above.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
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what's the point?! if it is to overheat your x10, mission complete
Why using setcpu? I use the same rom and it runs like hell without setcpu. No overheating neither...
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nytral is right. You set the CPU to run @998Hmz at _all time_ so it'[s only natural that the device/battery overheated.
Mayazcherquoi said:
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Quick details of my X10:
Flashed to FreeX10 Beta #4 last night.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
Using the 3G (build.prop) enhancement modification.
I have a rubber casing around the phone.
Usually connected to WiFi.
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u have managed to make a perfect guide on how to overheat the phone...
u push all the components to their max working capacity (full cpu, 'enhancement' of radio) and on top of that u keep it enclosed in a rubber casing...
bravo!!!
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u have managed to make a perfect guide on how to overheat the phone...
u push all the components to their max working capacity (full cpu, 'enhancement' of radio) and on top of that u keep it enclosed in a rubber casing...
bravo!!!
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Sorry, Min is 245. Not 998.. :-/
And I'm pretty sure the material of the casing (rubber vs hard plastic) wouldn't matter, but would contribute to the heating. I'm sure that a lot of people would use a case of some sort to protect their device.
The only reason why I started this thread is because I was on a ROM not too long ago (a couple of nights ago), which has exactly the same settings and modifications, except, it wasn't running Froyo - it was running Eclair. And since I installed that Eclair ROM, the phone has only been turned off once (with the battery removed, about a couple of days after installing it and it being on and charging pretty much 24/7) and has been charging pretty much non stop.
The only difference is it is using Froyo instead of Eclair... Hence why I thought it'd be best to start this thread.
LOL, now this is n1 example of a person who didnt read before he flashed
Solution dont whipe data...
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lol nice overheat guide
i'm using setcpu to scale it to powersafe and max @512 Hz
and when the screen is off it's max is set to the lowest (256?)
and when i wanna play games i always set it to min 256(?) and may 998 ans performance
then my battery won't drain so fast
nice overheating guidelines
Do you guys actually see a difference with setcpu? I have used every option available and nothing ever got slower or faster for me.
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Yeah I'm running 2.2.1 and my X10 is no where near hot. well, at least in temperature because its a hot-sexy phone ;P
Nice overclocking there though X10 watercooling systems now in development, expect another forum branch to open in XDA in the next coming weeks.
To my understanding the 2.6.29 doesn't support overclocking so setcpu shouldn't make a difference at all. The rubber case probably contributed to the heat retention but the heat likely is from the constant charging.
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Try the JuiceDefender app and set it to turn off wifi and data when your screen is off or unless certain apps are visible, helps with battery and stops unused functions while your phone sleeps.
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Phone doesnt overheat, if you use it right.
Useless topic!!
Sounds like a guy (not saying names) that Z tells to remove some files from "some" roms he was taking without permission, just trying to desestimate Z rom.
Beta 4 runs very well, theres no overheat.
Sorry for my bad english!!
Greetings from Venezuela!
I have installed cm6.1. 3 v4. 3, its a fab rom.... but charging is the main prob... even if i charge for 2 hrs continues it charges upto just 60% and it becomes very hot..... any solution for this......
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I have installed cm6.1. 3 v4. 3, its a fab rom.... but charging is the main prob... even if i charge for 2 hrs continues it charges upto just 60% and it becomes very hot..... any solution for this......
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Try charging the phone while its off. Ive heard people say that their phone wouldnt charge past a certain point but after charging it whilst off it returned to charging back to 100 percent. I bought a new usb cable for my charger after the terminal end into the phone became deformed and my phone now charges ~3x faster but ive never had it get abnormally hot.
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Hmmm... i set cpu to 998 when running emulators, otherwise its just ondemand. Using freex10 b4 for a fortnight high use frequent charging added 3g build prop lines, got no overheating issues.
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Rofl setcpu doesnt work unless u got full access, root doesnt give that... but have fun xD
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Its funny that anyone with the know how or has supposedly read these forums continue to pay for (or pirate!) apps that have no effect. WITHOUT UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND CUSTOM KERNEL OVERCLOCKING APPS HAVE NO EFFECT! Check the overclock option in JuiceDefender, this option is not supported! The developer of the app has apparently left out any notice that it doesnt work with our kernel so they can continue to make sales.
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I just recently unlocked bootloader, flashed 2.3.4 pudding and rooted and am experiencing insane battery life. For example, this morning I unplugged at 7:30 am and had work at 9 am. I work at AT&T so I am on my phone a significant amount of the day especially compared to the 'heavier' users out there. This morning was extremely slow and I spent most of the morning downloading and installing apps mostly from 4shared.com, heavy usage. Later in the day I used the phone for 3 customer service calls, all fairly lengthy. I also had set my cpu to 1000 MHz using SetCpu and my brightness cranked all the way up. I let 4 of my employees use my phone to demo for customers and showed my front row video of Raging Bull at Six Flags Great America 5 or 6 times. All the while playing Words with Friends with the old lady and sending and receiving about 50 texts. Pretty heavy use and a typical day for me.
It is 8 pm and I am at 40% still!! I am thoroughly impressed after 2 days of flashing new rom.
Please give your feedback on battery life on 2.3.4 and let me and others know ifI you are experiencing something similar.
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Ya I'm running bells 2.3.4 rom and the battery life is noticeably longer
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I feel the batter life on 2.3.4 is worse. I'm running kenn's 2.3.4 rom.
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Ya I'm running bells 2.3.4 rom and the battery life is noticeably longer
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quote some times from your battery stats like time in battery and display on otherwise there's not much to compare to
I use my phone more than just about everyone I know and once I updated to 2.3.4 the battery improve quite a bit.
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Improved battery life after 2.3.4 update.
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stock 2.3.4 OTA and rooted. battery life seems much better. Screenshot from today, the phone was mostly idle but compared to 2.2.2 battery life is much better.
Currently at 46% unplugged around 715am
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stock 2.3.4 OTA and rooted. battery life seems much better. Screenshot from today, the phone was mostly idle but compared to 2.2.2 battery life is much better.
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screen on time? it looks like it was barely on. not being a nay sayer, just curious
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screen on time? it looks like it was barely on. not being a nay sayer, just curious
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I stated the phone was mostly idle today. My phone has been idle like that before (entire day) and on 2.2.2 the battery was at 20% or so usually.
edit: IMO testing the battery usage when the phone is idle is probably a more accurate test between 2.2.2. and 2.3.4. It helps see how much battery the background services run on 2.3.4. With the screen on/phone in active use there's too many variables that are draining the battery = tough to make an accurate comparison. That is unless you have some sort of automated test script running that enables the screen and automatically walks through several apps for 2+ hours. I doubt anyone here does that though .
My battery life is not any better. If anything, it's slightly worse.
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Pretty much the same for me...
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My battery life is not any better. If anything, it's slightly worse.
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agree with that, especially with screen time going past 1-2 hours.
I'm not rooted or anything... I have AT&T version. I get horrible reception in my home so I usually turn off data network and have wifi on. I was using "extend controls" app from market... no with the update a few things wont work namely the widget to turn off data network connection. I see the problem, it renames the wrong APN (AT&T US Tether)... the default APN is AT&T HSDPA, not sure if its okay to switch. That all said my battery drains VERY fast... Went to bed at around 1am with 50% and was totally drained (phone died) by 8am. My only thought is that it was searching for a signal all night with wifi on...
Any thought on this?
I have had amazing battery life. I closed tonight so my routine was pretty much the same. I usually listen to iheartradio for about 2 hours while im counting down drawers other wise idle except for checking twitter on my breaks. That usually puts me at somewhere between 30-40% and I got home with 70% today...
I've somehow managed to get 2 days and 11 hours while still being at 12%. I haven't really used it much, with only ~3 hours of screen time, but I did use it for about 2 hours to listen to music with.
(On RedPill, not just 2.3.4 pudding)
My battery life seems terrible. Was on Gingerblur 4.5 and unlocked rooted and flashed ken's "safe" 4.5.91 update and my battery just died in 5.5 hrs. Anyone got suggestions?
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My battery life seems terrible. Was on Gingerblur 4.5 and unlocked rooted and flashed ken's "safe" 4.5.91 update and my battery just died in 5.5 hrs. Anyone got suggestions?
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Do you have the 4.5.91 radio (radio section near the bottom of the 1st post)? Settings -> About Phone -> Baseband Version = N_01.77.30P
Glad battery life is looking good. I'd love to see some comparisons to non OEM batteries. I know some say 2k+ mAH but you never know about quality.
I think the dual core CPU is to thank here. If processes are getting completed much quicker, then that means less active CPU time.
Unlocked, rooted, over-clocked @ 1100mhz, Kenneths Rom. My battery is outstanding! Under-clock to 750 with screen off and run "maximum battery saver" mode. Runs flawlessly and no issues.
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Mine was getting warm from the start. Thought it was lack of SIM, put that in and made some adjustments and its getting pretty darn hot... Am I alone on this?
When I first got it and put it on the fast charger and was playing with it. I noticed same thing it felt really warm even after i had it off the charger, but today I have not experienced the same. I have been using it pretty regularly but have not had it on the charger or played any games (at work) so I will report back once I do
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Good to know I'm not alone. Good thing I got this at BB. If it's just a small percentage maybe I can just swap it out. It feels about 100 degrees + right now. So I'm using my tablet. I don't want to unlock bootloader until I know for sure.
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Bump. More than 2 people on here have this phone, right?
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Wanted to let everyone know it does cool down a lot after charging to 100%. You will receive it at about 35% and it gets hot fast. Idk why, even with SIM... It adjusts though and can't wait for a recovery to root!
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Could be the sar levels making your hands hot. I think the sar levels are high on this phone.
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Could be the sar levels making your hands hot. I think the sar levels are high on this phone.
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Why would sar level make hands hot or impact the battery, seems strange
And what is Sars ha-ha, in 5 years never heard of that, other than the disease!
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So it's Radiation? Wow thought that was only minor.. From what I read its a big deal. Nexus 6 was pretty high, but iPhone was .1 away from legal limit!
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So it's Radiation? Wow thought that was only minor.. From what I read its a big deal. Nexus 6 was pretty high, but iPhone was .1 away from legal limit!
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I always wondered why my ear glowed the the dark after using my phone.
@Fantach read up on SARS levels on phones. It also makes the area of the body warm.
I plugged mine in with the Turbo charger when I got it (was at 43%) and did all the downloading and updating apps. It felt pretty hot, so I checked it with Gsam battery and it was 118 degrees. That's hotter than my M9 gets doing the same thing, but the M9 stays hot longer.
After it reached 100% (which was pretty fast), it cooled down pretty quick... It also didn't take too long to get back down to 70% (maybe 3 hours). Standby time is pretty good, but SOT seems to drain the battery pretty quick. But this is a new phone (basically a new ROM flash) and will settle in a few days and I expect to see better battery stats.
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@Fantach read up on SARS levels on phones. It also makes the area of the body warm.
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I heard about the high radiation on motorola devices but now the heat, if true
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I heard about the high radiation on motorola devices but now the heat, if true
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Heat is 100% fine. And Motorola Nexus 6 was a lot lower than iPhone.... Like myself and 2 other guys said. It's like the phone adjusts. It gets very hot AT FIRST, then it drastically cools down. Did an Antutu and it didn't even heat up. I swear, heat isn't an issue.
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Heat is 100% fine. And Motorola Nexus 6 was a lot lower than iPhone.... Like myself and 2 other guys said. It's like the phone adjusts. It gets very hot AT FIRST, then it drastically cools down. Did an Antutu and it didn't even heat up. I swear, heat isn't an issue.
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Thank you for your clarification, i feel much better now :victory:
Mine got hot today as well. It was downloading my apps. A little more past 100 apps from the Play Store. It's not a constant issue since I have been using the MXP
I've had this phone for 3 days and it has not calmed down. Still gets hot and this screen destroys battery time. It has nice standby but when the screen is a battery hog. The temps get high with any real usage. My Nexus 6 has been much better with temps and battery. Wondering if it's a bad faulty batch or if this is the processor/screen.
It's a shame because this phone is a dream besides all that. But I am suspect to keeping this with the overheat and battery drain.
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I've had this phone for 3 days and it has not calmed down. Still gets hot and this screen destroys battery time. The temps get high with any real usage.
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Could you try this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp and inform us about your cpu and battery temperature when it gets hot on regular usage (no gaming).
I encourage others to do the same so we could see what are we dealing with, thank you :fingers-crossed:
I will install. FYI... I don't game.
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I will install. FYI... I don't game.
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It's yours, I haven't had problems since the first couple hours. My benchmarks have been above average than others, so I might have a better build than most though...
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