Related
*Compiled this list myself while debloating with TiBu, actual list may be even bigger.
*Please keep in mind, ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP before you do something like this.
*Also please note that this WILL break some functionality of apps/services/etc depending on what you chose to remove!!
Active applications
Air WakeUp
AllShare ControlShare Service
AllShare FileShare Service
ANT Hal Service
ANT Radio Service
ANT+ Plugins
Baby Crying Detector
Backup
BlurbCheckout
Bubbles
Business card recognition
Car mode
Chrome
Clock (Digital)
Clock (Digital Easy)
com.sec.android.app.sbrowsertry
com.sec.app.MIPErrorNotify
Connections Optimizer
Dictionary
DirectShareManager
Drive
Dropbox
DropboxOOBE
Dual Clock
Email
Eureka Offers
Favorite Contacts
Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
Group Play
HealthService
HP Print Service Plugin
Internet
Kids Mode
KLMS Agent
Knox
Knox Notifications Manager
Lookout Security
Lumen Toolbar
Magnifier
Messaging+
Mobile Print
Music
MusicFX
My Files
My Magazine
Nascar Mobile
NBA Game Time
NextRadio
NNL Fingerprint Passport
Phase Beam
Polaris Office
Print Spooler
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Apps
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Cloud Quota
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter
Samsung Galaxy Apps Widget
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Print
Samsung SBrowser SyncAdapter
Samsung SNote3 SyncAdapter
Scout
Share Music
Share Video
Sprint - Discover Apps
Sprint ID
Sprint Money Express
Sprint Music Plus
Sprint TV & Movies
Sprint Worldwide
Sprint Zone
Studio
Swype
Talkback
TouchWiz Easy Home
TouchWiz Home
Travel Wallpaper
Weather
Wait..does Titanium freeze apps w/o root? Its been a long while since I used it...cant remember.
Edit: Root needed.
also add bubbles [if you don't care about moving wallpapers], clock (digital easy) [if you don't care about the widget], clock (digital) [if you don't care about the widget], Group play, NNL Fingerprint Passport, phase beam [if you don't care about moving wallpapers], print spooler, samsung link platform, swype (if you use another keyboard like swiftkey)
Change Mobile Print to MoblePrintSvc_CUPS and MoblePrintSvc_CUPS_Backend to be more specific
Change Samsung Print to Samsung Print Service Plugin to be more specific
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Joe0113 said:
*Compiled this list myself while debloating with TiBu, actual list may be even bigger.
*Please keep in mind, ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP before you do something like this.
*Also please note that this WILL break some functionality of apps/services/etc depending on what you chose to remove!!
Active applications
Air WakeUp
AllShare ControlShare Service
AllShare FileShare Service
ANT Hal Service **DO NOT DELETE, ONLY FREEZE!!**
ANT Radio Service **DO NOT DELETE, ONLY FREEZE!!**
ANT+ Plugins **DO NOT DELETE, ONLY FREEZE!!**
Baby Crying Detector
Backup
BlurbCheckout
Business card recognition
Car mode
Chrome
com.sec.android.app.sbrowsertry
com.sec.app.MIPErrorNotify
Connections Optimizer
Dictionary
DirectShareManager
Drive
Dropbox
DropboxOOBE
Dual Clock
Email
[*]Eureka Offers
Favorite Contacts
[*]Flipboard
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
HealthService
HP Print Service Plugin
Internet
Kids Mode
KLMS Agent
Knox
Knox Notifications Manager
[*]Lookout Security
Lumen Toolbar
Magnifier
Messaging+
Mobile Print
Music
MusicFX
My Files
My Magazine
[*]Nascar Mobile
[*]NBA Game Time
[*]NextRadio
Polaris Office
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Apps
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Cloud Quota
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter
Samsung Galaxy Apps Widget
Samsung Print
Samsung SBrowser SyncAdapter
Samsung SNote3 SyncAdapter
[*]Scout
Share Music
Share Video
[*]Sprint - Discover Apps
[*]Sprint ID
[*]Sprint Money Express
[*]Sprint Music Plus
[*]Sprint TV & Movies
[*]Sprint Worldwide
[*]Sprint Zone
Studio
Talkback
TouchWiz Easy Home
TouchWiz Home
Travel Wallpaper
Weather
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the bolded and underlined can actually be UNINSTALLED
For ANT programs, why only freeze not delete?
Apps
It would be cool to have description to all of those...to know what exactly I am freezing/uninstalling
bigred97 said:
For ANT programs, why only freeze not delete?
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Ant Radio and plugins can be reinstalled in Google Play, they are free apps to download. I agree, definitely remove if not needed, but why say no to an FM radio!
Tapatalk Classic
Thanks for the list Joe. I'm going to have to go through this and make sure I've got all of the bloatware turned off.
crazymook said:
Wait..does Titanium freeze apps w/o root? Its been a long while since I used it...cant remember.
Edit: Root needed.
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Root isn't necessary to freeze/disable apps (freeze and disable are the same commands)
This link here http://galaxys5guide.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-how-to-guides/turn-off-my-magazine-on-galaxy-s5/ explains how to disable the Magazine app from the Applications Settings menu in the phone and this can be done for any system app on the phone.
This was a feature put in place around 4.3(?) because system apps could not be uninstalled without root; only updates could be uninstalled. So they added a disable feature to keep it from running in the background and it removed it from your App Drawer.
AlkaliV2 said:
Root isn't necessary to freeze/disable apps (freeze and disable are the same commands)
This link here http://galaxys5guide.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-how-to-guides/turn-off-my-magazine-on-galaxy-s5/ explains how to disable the Magazine app from the Applications Settings menu in the phone and this can be done for any system app on the phone.
This was a feature put in place around 4.3(?) because system apps could not be uninstalled without root; only updates could be uninstalled. So they added a disable feature to keep it from running in the background and it removed it from your App Drawer.
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Being unrooted, you can only disable only certain apps , not all of them.
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eyecon82 said:
Being unrooted, you can only disable only certain apps , not all of them.
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Taught me something I didn't know. I went through and looked at a few crucial system apps and noticed "Turn Off" was greyed out on a few of them which I hadn't noticed before.
also add
you can also add smart remote, and internet/ chrome depending on what browser you like, to this list that can be completely removed... never understood why people would remove sprint zone when it is the easiest way to do things on your account. To each their own o guess... great list too as there are a few I missed on my debloating adventures.
liqrisquicker said:
you can also add smart remote, and internet/ chrome depending on what browser you like, to this list that can be completely removed... never understood why people would remove sprint zone when it is the easiest way to do things on your account. To each their own o guess... great list too as there are a few I missed on my debloating adventures.
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Exactly, I find it the best way to track my usage as well.
I guess this is a list of things that are safe to remove, but not necessarily recommend to remove
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here are some more you missed
beaming service, 2 connections optimizer files, 2 enterprise files, 2 nearby device files, Samsung galaxy apps widget, Samsung keyboard, saumsung text to speech, screen mirroring, Sprint Installer, 2 wifi direct files
How come my titanium app won't let me backup? It says storage full, but it isn't.
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PMGRANDS said:
How come my titanium app won't let me backup? It says storage full, but it isn't.
Sent from my SM-G900P using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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If you are mostly stock then you need to download sdfix from the market. It is free. Or you can change the build.prop line yourself to write to sd with a file manager of your choice. Idk the build.prop line but you can google it and it will come up. I hope that is your issue and it helps.
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the ANT app is actually usefull
for those of us that like to bike/run/hoke or other physical activity in which we monitor our performance or heart rate, ANT radio is a big part of that.
http://www.thisisant.com/directory/ant-radio-service
Might want to investigate this site before removing completely as it uses hardware already on your phone, after all whats the point in getting the phone with all this stuff in it, if you just not going to use it.
youngpro83 said:
If you are mostly stock then you need to download sdfix from the market. It is free. Or you can change the build.prop line yourself to write to sd with a file manager of your choice. Idk the build.prop line but you can google it and it will come up. I hope that is your issue and it helps.
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This worked for me thank you!
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553
Has anyone actually removed all of these without consequence to remaining functionality?
seattleal said:
Has anyone actually removed all of these without consequence to remaining functionality?
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Honestly im not sure I can say without consequence. Sometime after I removed a bunch of these apps, I have had some issues with my phone. the screen blacks out while the buttons work. took it to a sprint store finally and they think its 'software related' but didnt really help beyond that.i am still investigating though as it could have been something else too potentially (but i havent really installed much on this phone to begin with outside of root).
i have rooted my GS5 and installed SuperSU and ConnectBot.
I would like to remove much of this bloatware and the automatic updating of certain apps.
I have no idea how to proceed with uninstalling, any help would be appreciated.
So..
I hate having bloat on my electronics.
So much so that I go far above and beyond what most people would do. (uninstalling a few of your carriers apps)
Basically I will list APK's that can and can not be removed over the next couple of days.
Will probably start on this tonight and add to the list from there..
Keep in mind this is using a custom rom (insert coin), but I will try to keep this broad for everyone using stock or custom roms as both will have a lot of the same system apps. Which is what we are looking to remove.
This is the method I am using to remove these!
http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/
You will need root to remove these!
Red: unsafe to remove
Black: unsure
Green: safe to remove
Android System: Obviously do not remove.
AppDownload
Archive Viewer
Basic Daydream
Bluetooth Share
Calender Storage
Camera
Certificate Installer
CIRModule
Clock
com.android.backup
com.android.keyguard
com.android.provider
com.android.shareds
com.android.wallpaper
com.htc.htccalendarf
com.qualcomm.time
ConfigUpdater
Contacts
Contacts Storage
Customization
Customization Setup
Data Usage
Dialer
Dialer Storage
Documents
DotMatrix: For DotMatrix cases.
Download Manager
Downloads
Easy Mode
EasyAccessService
External Storage
Extreme Power
File Browser
Flexnet: Bloat
Frisbee Contacts
Fused Location
Gallery
Gmail
Google Account
Google Backup
Google Bookmark
Google Calender
Google Contacts
Google One Time
Google Partner
Google Services
Google Text-to-speech
Helvetica Font
HTC Account
HTC Backup
HTC BlinkFeed: Blinkfeed feature
hTC Bluetooth
HTC Checkin
HTC Connectio
HTC DM
HTC Function
HTC Get Started
HTC Guide
HTC Internal
HTC Lock Screen
HTC Match
HTC MEdia
HTC Message
HTC Sense
HTC Service
HTC Sync Manager
HTC Sync Manager
HTC Weather
HtcBackupReset
HtcCupd
HtcDLNA MiddleLay
HTCMirror
HTCMode
HTML Viewer
Input Devices
Instagram for HTC
Keep Alive
Key Chain
Keyboard - English
LED Settings
LinkedIn for HTC
Location Picker
Make more
Market Feedback
Media output
Media Storage
Message Provider
Messages: I replace with Hello SMS app!
Music
Music Enhancer
Nfc Service
NfceeService
Notification Widget
Package Access
Package installer
PacProcessor
Personalize
Phone
Picasa Uploader
Power
Power Dashboard
ProxyHandler
Push Client
Ringtone Trimmer
Settings
Settings Storage
Setup
Setup Wizard
Shell
Smartcard Service
SmsBackupAgent
Sound Picker
System UI
Tags
Transfer
Transfer my stuff
TV
Update HTC
Updater
User Dictionary
View video
Visual Voicemail: AT&T Bloatware
VpnDialogs
Weather
Weather Clock
WeatherClockWidget
Wi-Fi Hotspot
Zoe: Unreleased app
To be continued.
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Also any help would be much appreciated, or if someone sees a sys app that isnt on the list that is not apart of a specific rom.
I am still on stock... And it probably doesn't need asking, but Amazon and Amazon MP3 can be removed as obvious bloat.
Also, I do not use "the Facebook" so I am planning on getting rid of "Facebook" and "HTC Facebook" which I can't imagine would be a problem... The only pause I had was that the OP has HTC Instagram listed as "unsure" to remove but that may be because he is an active user.
Edit: I removed:
Amazon
Amazon MP3 (system app)
Facebook (system app)
Facebook for HTC Sense (system app)
...so they can be added to the "Safe" list (for stock anyway).
Note: Just an FYI...when I disabled Kid Mode (I was S-On though), I lost T-Mobile's WiFi calling ability.
@PunchLick
stumbled across this today, very useful!!!!
may be worth adding that if users remove apps on rooted stock rom, they will need to restore these to apply any OTA file
exocetdj said:
@PunchLick
stumbled across this today, very useful!!!!
may be worth adding that if users remove apps on rooted stock rom, they will need to restore these to apply any OTA file
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I would suggest freezing them, rather than deleting them. You can't use that space anyway, because of the partitioning, and it is a lot easier to freeze/defrost than hunt down a backup.
jshamlet said:
I would suggest freezing them, rather than deleting them. You can't use that space anyway, because of the partitioning, and it is a lot easier to freeze/defrost than hunt down a backup.
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You can't do anything to them until you disable them first. Titanium uninstalled them, but then they reappeared after reboot.
With regard to OTAs, I am rooted with TWRP, but was getting pestered to do an update. It now has downloaded on its own.
I read elsewhere this forum that it won't update though because of the custom recovery... and may even bootloop trying to update. Anyone know what I should do with this update?
Thanks a lot in advance!
exocetdj said:
@PunchLick
stumbled across this today, very useful!!!!
may be worth adding that if users remove apps on rooted stock rom, they will need to restore these to apply any OTA file
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syntropic said:
You can't do anything to them until you disable them first. Titanium uninstalled them, but then they reappeared after reboot.
With regard to OTAs, I am rooted with TWRP, but was getting pestered to do an update. It now has downloaded on its own.
I read elsewhere this forum that it won't update though because of the custom recovery... and may even bootloop trying to update. Anyone know what I should do with this update?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hmm, it may make a difference that I am S-off as well as BL unlocked, and have been since day one. So far, TiBu works like it normally should on my phone, and I've used it to freeze a lot of stuff Sense wouldn't let me disable (system apps). It's possible that S-on phones ignore TiBu's attempt to freeze.
Since I have never spent an appreciable amount of time S-on, or run into these issues, I'll defer to a more experienced person on that.
Freezing bloat is always better than uninstalling it. The apps take up very little space. You can unfreeze if you have an issue. And you can still take an ota. Uninstalled them and you can not, until you find them and install them again, or return to stock.
Just my 2 cents. ?
I have just been disabling system apps under settings. It seems like more stuff is integrated in this version of Sense--which makes it harder to even do this though.
As of now, I have disabled Amazon, Facebook, Instagram, FMRadio widget, Lookout Security, and Set-up Wizard. I am going to experiment with disabling some more items tonight.
Anyone know what HTC Recommend (ver 2.0.772578) is? It has the option to be disabled from the app settings menu, dont think I use it so might just disable it. The same for FlexNet?
Now that root has been established and titanium is available to use, what apps are people safely removing/freezing? My last rom was on the Note 2 so a lot has changed since then for me. I assume there's a S5 list around that we can use as a base.
Edit: The list can be found on post 3.
joshuar9476 said:
Now that root has been established and titanium is available to use, what apps are people safely removing/freezing? My last rom was on the Note 2 so a lot has changed since then for me. I assume there's a S5 list around that we can use as a base.
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I'd also like to know this coming from the note 2. ?I like some of the samsung / sprint feel but i dont need it at the cost of unresponsiveness when it runs out of resources
What I have personally done:
Stock apps deleted from app manager:
1 Weather
Amazon Preloader
App Pass
Chrome (installed Chrome Beta .. actually had to uninstall Chrome in Titanium)
Ebay
FamilyWall for Sprint
Messaging+
NASCAR mobile 2014
NBA Game Time
NextRadio
Scout
Spotify
Sprint-Featured Apps
Sprint Music Plus
Sprint TV & Movies
Sprint Worldwide
Uninstalled from Titanium:
Active applications 2.1.1
BlurbCheckout 1.0
Bubbles 1.0
ChocoEUKor 1.11.56913.118627
Clock (digital easy) 1.0.73981.149261
Clock (digital) 1.0.68078.138841
Dropbox 2.4.5.10
Dual Clock (digital) 1.0
Email 4.4.2.0400 (I only use Gmail)
Exchange services 4.4.2.0100 (backed up)
Favorite Contacts 1.0
Flipboard 2.4.0
Google Play Books 3.1.49
Google Play Games 1.6.07
Google Play Movies & TV 3.3.33
Google Play Music 5.6.1623P
Google Play Newsstand 3.3
Google+ 4.6.0.76970369
Hangouts 2.3.75731955
Help 1.0.0 (backed up)
HP Print Service
Internet 2.0.341100600.89011 (use Chrome Beta)
Launcher 1.0 (use Nova)
Live weather 1.0
Lookout Security 8.35.3-347a1b6
Phase beam 1.0
Photo Screensavers
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Cloud Data Relay (backed up)
Samsung Cloud Quota (backed up)
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Memo SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Push Service (backed up)
Samsung Syncadapters (backed up)
Samsung SBrowser SyncAdapter (backed up)
Swype 1.7.9.30068
TalkBack 3.5.1 (backed up)
Travel Wallpaper 1.0.13429
TouchWiz easy home 1.0 (Nova)
TouchWiz home 1.0 (Nova)
Frozen from Titanium:
AllShare FileShare Service 2.1
ANT HAL Service 3.0.0
ANT Radio Service 4.7.0
ANT+ Plugins Service 3.1.0
Briefing 1.0.0
Connections Optimizer 3.0.9.14
Connections Optimizer Updater 2.1.4.0
EmergencyManagerService 4.4.4 (per hermeticist) - interferes with enabling Ultra Power Saving mode and can possibly cause brick
Evernote 5.8.5
Galaxy Apps 14093005.02.008.1
Knox 2.2.0
Knox Notification Manager 2.2.2
Knox SetupWizardClient 2.2.0
Mobile Installer 4.1.01.
Messages 4.4.4 (use Textra)
Nearby Devices 2.1
Nearby Service 2.1
NFC Service 4.4.4
Samsung Account 2.1.0014
Samsung DM Service 1.10.10
Samsung Galaxy Apps Widget
Sprint ID 2.0.23
Sprint Zone 4.7.019
I will update this as I go forward.
Put this list in the OP, and then just update the OP as people contribute more safe things to install - that way people don't need to scroll through the thread to find everything and it can all be in one place.
Great work on having the initiative to start this - these are always useful especially before there's a lot roms out that already take it all out/for people who like to customize their own stock.
*Probably should just change title to
Removable Sprint/Samsung Bloatware or something since you already got started on the list
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Out of paranoia, I just freeze instead of uninstalling. My $. 02.
The more I play with this rom, the more I like the multitasking features like expanding windows. Also like one handed mode.
I would love to be able to replace the notification quick settings with AOSP quick settings, and get an AOSP lockscreen, and AOSP phone and contacts. in a custom Rom
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Basically get all AOSP features and keeping TouchWiz innovation.
I feel that if we could get rid of any Samsung market tracking apps, this phone would be even better!
monkey3ddd said:
Out of paranoia, I just freeze instead of uninstalling. My $. 02.
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I get that. The programs I uninstalled I have uninstalled for many devices and roms in the past. I just finally purchased the pro version of Titanium so I'm starting to freeze more and add those to the list. Once I see no problems after a few weeks I'll back them up and remove them.
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
hermeticist said:
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
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I have the KLMS Agent on freeze, no issues...make sure to freeze com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation too....
Edit: found New Registration and RCPComponets are Knox related, froze both, got hung up on Sprint splash screen, had to do a battery pull ( not 100% sure its related as I had done other things) but rebooted fine and running with both froze...
jauger said:
I have the KLMS Agent on freeze, no issues...make sure to freeze com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation too....
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hermeticist said:
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
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I added these to the list
How about emergency manager service?
hermeticist said:
How about emergency manager service?
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Something keeps throwing an emergency manager service error at me when I restart so let's freeze it.
Me too.
For those of you who have rooted your device and Titanium Backup can not access "Backup Folder" (can not uninstall apps), you can simply change the default backup location in the settings. Change it to something that is writable.
Since I wanted to write to the SD card I had to install the SDFix app to allow Titatium Backup to write to the SD Card where I wanted and it allowed me to uninstall apps from then there after.
I didn't have an sd card problem.
ES file explorer, and titanium backup recognized the external card right off the bat.
The only app that is acting weird is Dolphin browser refusing to let me change external sd download directories.
gpvlog said:
For those of you who have rooted your device and Titanium Backup can not access "Backup Folder" (can not uninstall apps), you can simply change the default backup location in the settings. Change it to something that is writable.
Since I wanted to write to the SD card I had to install the SDFix app to allow Titatium Backup to write to the SD Card where I wanted and it allowed me to uninstall apps from then there after.
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I too downloaded SDFix and backed up to my SDCard
What does the Amazon Preloader actually preload?
Is the connections optimizer bloat? Or is there a bug in it, it keeps shutting off location services randomly. I get it may be trying to save battery live but when you over 30% over 50% and over 80% i don't see why i keep getting notices location info was turned off. I think it still "may" serve a purpose of optimizing lte over wifi if the wifi is a poor connection and i have a strong lte spot but not sure.
Fangs87 said:
Is the connections optimizer bloat? Or is there a bug in it, it keeps shutting off location services randomly. I get it may be trying to save battery live but when you over 30% over 50% and over 80% i don't see why i keep getting notices location info was turned off. I think it still "may" serve a purpose of optimizing lte over wifi if the wifi is a poor connection and i have a strong lte spot but not sure.
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I did some research and found you can disable it from within the phone under settings/more networks/moble networks ... I went ahead and added it to the freeze list.
Yea i saw that also i was trying to avoid disabling it but it notifying me every so often it shut things down now i need to turn it back on to do something is annoying
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this list may not be complete, you can help me improving it if you want
Thanks to the following users for their help improving this list: daspex
=== Safe to remove (free up some space) ===
The following list contains app which are safe to remove to free up some space in the rom.
You can gain some hundred megabytes of free space by removing this apps from the system.
Gmail (2 mail apps are unnecessary)
Google+ (how the hell uses G+ anyways)
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Kiosk
Google Play Movies
Zinio (some random magazine app)
Amazon Kindle (good reader app, but way to huge for a system app ~100MB)
Omlet Chat
Bbbler Actors for Omlet (comes with latest OTA update)
Flipboard
Facebook (need it? install it as a user app. needs too much space)
Maps (i personally think Google Maps on this device is completely useless)
Street View
Chrome Browser (reinstall as user app if you use it, another app which eats up space in the rom)
EMusic
Contacts (why is this app actually installed?)
Gallery (default image viewer)
MyASUS (classic bloatware app)
RemoteLink
ShareLink
Mirror (uses front camera for a mirror)
WebStorage
What's Next
Google Drive
=== Safe to disable (remove at your own risk) ===
The following list contains background processes and services which are safe to disable.
CMService & DMService* (get rid of OTA update notifications and reduce network usage)
Bubbles (if you don't care about live wallpapers disable it)
PlayTo* (never tried this out, maybe to transfer video?)
EnergySaver*
DLNA Service*
* confirmed save to remove
CAUTION: always make a backup before you remove a app in case you want to restore it later not all apps are available on the play store!
I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK ANYTHING OR END UP BOOTLOOPING! REMOVE AND/OR DISABLE APPS AND SERVICES AT YOUR OWN RISK AND DON'T BLAME ME IF ANYTHING STOPS WORKING! I TESTEST EVERY APP/SERVICE BY MYSELF AND IT WORKED FOR ME!
Hi,here are the asus and bloatware apps i removed from the .201-system:
emusic
galerie
googleplaybooks
googleplaygames
googleplaykiosk
googleplaymovies
google+
Contacts
myasus
playto
remotelink
sharelink
mirror
webstorage
what´s next
galerie
energysaver
DLNA Service
DM Client
chrome
drive
facebook
Amazon Kindle
Omlet chat
Flipboard
Zinio
i removed this app´s a few month´s ago and
no issues so far.....when they come i´ll report it here.
work with lollipop?
GhettoGirl said:
this list may not be complete, you can help me improving it if you want
Thanks to the following users for their help improving this list: daspex
=== Safe to remove (free up some space) ===
The following list contains app which are safe to remove to free up some space in the rom.
You can gain some hundred megabytes of free space by removing this apps from the system.
Gmail (2 mail apps are unnecessary)
Google+ (how the hell uses G+ anyways)
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Kiosk
Google Play Movies
Zinio (some random magazine app)
Amazon Kindle (good reader app, but way to huge for a system app ~100MB)
Omlet Chat
Bbbler Actors for Omlet (comes with latest OTA update)
Flipboard
Facebook (need it? install it as a user app. needs too much space)
Maps (i personally think Google Maps on this device is completely useless)
Street View
Chrome Browser (reinstall as user app if you use it, another app which eats up space in the rom)
EMusic
Contacts (why is this app actually installed?)
Gallery (default image viewer)
MyASUS (classic bloatware app)
RemoteLink
ShareLink
Mirror (uses front camera for a mirror)
WebStorage
What's Next
Google Drive
=== Safe to disable (remove at your own risk) ===
The following list contains background processes and services which are safe to disable.
CMService & DMService* (get rid of OTA update notifications and reduce network usage)
Bubbles (if you don't care about live wallpapers disable it)
PlayTo* (never tried this out, maybe to transfer video?)
EnergySaver*
DLNA Service*
* confirmed save to remove
CAUTION: always make a backup before you remove a app in case you want to restore it later not all apps are available on the play store!
I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK ANYTHING OR END UP BOOTLOOPING! REMOVE AND/OR DISABLE APPS AND SERVICES AT YOUR OWN RISK AND DON'T BLAME ME IF ANYTHING STOPS WORKING! I TESTEST EVERY APP/SERVICE BY MYSELF AND IT WORKED FOR ME!
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work good with lollipop?
i don't have lollipop installed by myself, but since the apps are the same you are should good to go
I CAN'T GARANTEE ANYTHING, BE CAREFUL!
deleted:
Asus Launcher
Asus Demo
No issues so far...if they come i'll post it here...
everything works well instead of asus launcher i use go launcher.
as i read the asus demo app installs the flashplayer and removes itself after entering the password no need to do that for me couse i use mxplayer and codecs.
Don't delete Asus launcher If you don't have any launcher installed and currently in use, it'll throw your device in to boot loop.
But Asus Demo is safe to delete.
I have the Lollipop .33 version as far as I tried if any app associated with quick settings is deleted, you can't go to Asus Customize settings and change the apps order anymore.
When you press Quick settings options it'll throw you an "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped." error. But apart from that it doesn't effect the system stability.
The .24 doesn't have this problem.
My suggestion is when you have a freshly and fully installed Lollipop .33 and want to delete some apps like Splendid, go to Asus cuatomize settings and change them to your liking first. Then you can safely delete system apps.
deleted:zsprovider/settings-app for zinio
deleted:googleplaymusic
deleted:asuszenui services,asusezlauncher
no issues so far....
deleted:google text to speech,google search engine
deleted:
AsusServices
(I don't know if this thread is still aktualized and confirmed by the OP.
But i will post every deletion i make in the future here and report if there
are any issues.Just to be safe:If you decide to remove/freeze System
App's make a Nandroid Backup of your System or at least a backup of the
removed system app's.I use the titanium backup app to make backup's of
system files,so if something went's wrong you can restore your system.)
daspex said:
AsusServices
(I don't know if this thread is still aktualized and confirmed by the OP.
But i will post every deletion i make in the future here and report if there
are any issues.Just to be safe:If you decide to remove/freeze System
App's make a Nandroid Backup of your System or at least a backup of the
removed system app's.I use the titanium backup app to make backup's of
system files,so if something went's wrong you can restore your system.)
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i have had no issues so far device works well.
deleted:Asus Do it later
deleted:Asus Miracast dongle tool
deleted:Asus com.provider.partner.bookmarks
(disables the pre-installed bookmarks in asus webbrowser)
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deleted:com.asus.youtubesearch
Removed those 4 music apps (musicfx , audiowizard, audiowizard service and iceservice) have no issues.
deleted: Asus filemanager
deleted:asus webbrowser a few months ago...i use firefox instead of stock browser.no issues so far.
Don't even freeze it.
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I don't have AsusService, but I do have Asus ZenUI Services and 3G internet (Wi-Fi?) was not working anymore after freezed it.
Working me70c,
AstroLaur said:
I don't have AsusService, but I do have Asus ZenUI Services and 3G internet (Wi-Fi?) was not working anymore after freezed it.
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Wich memo pad do you own?The me176c doesn't comes with 3G.
My WiFi runs pretty well.
NOTICE: I HAVE PERSONALLY TESTED THE DELETION OF THESE APPS USING TITANIUM BACKUP WITH NO SYSTEM ISSUES. HOWEVER, I TAKE NO LIABILITY SHOULD ANYTHING GO WRONG. ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR DEVICE, AND DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK! SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME AND WILL BE ADDED TO THE ALPHABETICALLY ORDERED LIST
AFTER YOU DEBLOAT, YOU MAY LOSE SCREEN ROTATION. THE FIX IS EASY AND OUTLINED HERE
RED = LOSS OF PRIMARY SYSTEM FUNCTIONS (Ex: Screen Rotation)
GREEN = LOSS OF RELATED SYSTEM FUNCTIONS ONLY (Ex: Touchwiz Launcher, Knox)
WHITE = LOSS / REMOVAL OF APP ONLY (SELF CONTAINED. Ex: Flipboard)
Safe To Remove
AllShare FileShare Service
ANT+ DUT --------------------------------------------| The ANT list of services relate to health / fitness tracking equipment that do not use bluetooth. Do not remove if you use these kinds of items
ANT HAL Service -------------------------------------Same as above
ANT Radio Service -----------------------------------Same as above
ANT+ Plugins Service--------------------------------Same as above
App Widget
Backup and Restore
Backup and Restore Agent
Basic Daydreams
BBCAgent
Briefing
Bubbles --------------------------------------------------A live wallpaper
Car Mode ------------------------------------------------Samsung Car Mode Feature
CarModeRemote ---------------------------------------Related To Car Mode Feature
ChocoEUKor --------------------------------------------Custom font, I use the stock one
Clock (Digital) ------------------------------------------TouchWiz Widget, I use Nova Launcher
Clock (Digital_easy) ----------------------------------TouchWiz Widget, I use Nova Launcher
CoolEUKor ----------------------------------------------Custom Font
Drive
Dropbox
Dual Clock (Digital) -----------------------------------Touchwiz Widget, Not Applicable To Other Launchers (Like Nova)
Easy settings -------------------------------------------Dumbed-down settings for the technologically illiterate customer buying a Note 4
Email -----------------------------------------------------I use the GMail app
Evernote
Facebook
Flipboard
Galaxy Apps
Galaxy Apps Widget
Gear VR Service
Gear VR SetupWizardStub
Gear VR Shell
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
Hancom Office 2014
Hangouts -----------------------------------------------------------I use the stock messaging app
Health Service
Help
Kies Application BnR
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX SetupWizardClient
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
KnoxFolderContainer
Live Wallpaper Picker
Music ------------------------------------------ You will lose the ability to listen to .AMR files directly (Ex: Visual Voicemail Sent As An MMS With .AMR Extension)
My interests
My Places
My places
MyKNOXSetupWizard
Pages Manager
Peel Smart Remote -----------------------------------------------------------Note 4 can function as an IR Remote. This app can be re-downloaded from Google Play however
PEN.UP
Phase beam ---------------------------------------------------------------------Live wallpaper
Photo Screensavers
Photos
Print Spooler 1
Push To Talk
Quick connect
RoseEUKor - a different font. I use the stock font
S Finder
S Health
Samsung account
Samsung Billing
Samsung Content Agent
Samsung Galaxy
Samsung keyboard ---------------------------- I use google keyboard
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push Service
Samsung setup wizard
SamsungDLPService
SamsungSans
SapaMonitor
Scrapbook
Slow motion
suretap Wallet
TalkBack
TMobile TV -----------------------Disabling or Removing May Also Delete TMobile Visual Voicemail
TouchWiz easy home ------------------------------Launcher portion of Touchwiz (Easy Version)
TouchWiz Home-------------------------------------Launcher portion of Touchwiz
Weather----------------------------------------------Stock weather app, I use the "Okay Google" command
withTV
Unsafe To Remove
Launcher - Causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to break, and "EmergencyManagerService has stopped" on every reboot
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Briefing
Car Mode
CarModeRemote
com.facebook.appmanager
com.facebook.system
Email
Facebook
Flipboard
Galaxy Apps
Galaxy AppsWidget
Gear VR Service
Gear VR SetupWizardStub
Gear VR Shell
Hancom Office
Health Service
Internet
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX SetupWizardClient
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
KnoxFolderContainer
Launcher
Lookout
Magnifier
Messages
Music
My Interests
My Places
My places
Nearby devices
Nerby Service
New Registration
Peel Smart Remote
PEN.UP
Personal Data Management
Photo Studio
Photos
Quick Connect
S Beam
S Finder
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Milk Music
Samsung MirrorLink
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push service
Samsung text-to-speech engine
Samsung+
Samsung DLPService
Scrapbook
Slow Motion
Smart Manager
Studio
T-Mobile
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Movile TV
TalkBack
TouchWiz easy home
TouchWiz home
Video clip studio
Virtual tour
Visual Voicemail
Voice Recorder
Weather
withTV
Just a heads up, that rotation issue can be resolved by replacing a file that gets removed when Facebook is uninstalled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140. One additional step I had to do was set permissions for the file to -rw-r--r--
How do you debloat ?
nostreborderaj said:
Just a heads up, that rotation issue can be resolved by replacing a file that gets removed when Facebook is uninstalled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140. One additional step I had to do was set permissions for the file to -rw-r--r--
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Thank you for this! I will do another debloat test tomorrow and add this to the guide! Great Info!
kyoji001 said:
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Thank you for the great list! I will test all of these out tomorrow and update the main post. Your feedback and contribution is appreciated!
PS: One common issue I have found is that you get the error "EmergencyManagerService has stopped working". This also causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to stop working correctly. Does anyone know what is responsible for this?
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WaterMan! said:
kyoji001 said:
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Thank you for the great list! I will test all of these out tomorrow and update the main post. Your feedback and contribution is appreciated!
PS: One common issue I have found is that you get the error "EmergencyManagerService has stopped working". This also causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to stop working correctly. Does anyone know what is responsible for this?
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Hey Waterman,
No, I haven't received any errors like that. I just tried Ultra Power Saving mode and it seemed to work fine!
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Hey everyone! Post here all the apps that you have successfully frozen, or removed, without any issues. If you know what they are responsible for, post that as well. I will keep this post updated in Alphabetic order!
After a couple days of debloating, messing up the system, and restoring, there are clearly some apps that cause major issues if removed. For example, the Facebook app causes the screen rotation function to permanently break, if it is removed. There is also another app that results in screen rotation breaking, I have yet to identify it, but I suspect it is one of the KNOX-related apps.
*UPDATE* We have some new information folks! I will be doing a very large debloat tomorrow and this thread will get a huge update
RED = LOSS OF PRIMARY SYSTEM FUNCTIONS (Ex: Screen Rotation)
ORANGE = LOSS OF RELATED SYSTEM FUNCTIONS ONLY (Ex: Touchwiz Launcher, Knox)
WHITE = LOSS / REMOVAL OF APP ONLY (SELF CONTAINED. Ex: Flipboard)
Safe To Remove
Safe To Freeze (No Loss Of Functionality If Frozen, LOSS OF FUNCTIONS IF REMOVED)
-Facebook - Results In Loss Of Screen Rotation
Unsafe To Remove Or Freeze (Loss Of Function If Removed / Frozen)
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This fixes the screen rotation issue with Facebook.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140
Oops didnt see @nostreborderaj's post. ;p
Nice thread ?
Hey everyone,
So I compiled this entire list and did it myself. I was doing it in batches. The last portion was after Phase Beam, and that caused an error in the system
"EmergencyManagerService has stopped working"
This causes the error to come up on every reboot, and breaks ultra power saving mode functionality. At this point I am going through them one by one and trying to identify which app breaks this when removed. This may take a while ...
Here's what I've personally removed:
system/app/AccuweatherPhone2014_T_MMR
system/app/AmazonShopping_TMO
system/app/AntHalService
system/app/ANTPlusPlugins
system/app/ANTPlusTest
system/app/ANTRadioService
system/app/BasicDreams
system/app/BBCAgent
system/app/BookmarkProvider
system/app/Books
system/app/ChocoEUKor
system/app/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
system/app/CoolEUKor
system/app/DigitalClock_MUPG
system/app/DigitalClockEasy_MUPG
system/app/Drive
system/app/Dropbox
system/app/DualClockDigital_MUPG
system/app/EasymodeContactsWidget_RECT
system/app/EasySettings
system/app/EasySetup
system/app/ELMAgent
system/app/Facebook_latest
system/app/FactoryCameraFB
system/app/FBAppManager
system/app/Flipboard
system/app/FlipboardBriefing
system/app/GameOptimizer
system/app/Kies
system/app/KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
system/app/KnoxAttestationAgent
system/app/KnoxFolderContainer
system/app/KnoxSetupWizardClient
system/app/KnoxSwitcher
system/app/MobilePrintSvc_Samsung
system/app/Music2
system/app/Newsstand
system/app/PartnerBookmarksProvider
system/app/PENUP
system/app/PlayGames
system/app/PlusOne
system/app/Post_T_Promo
system/app/RoseEUKor
system/app/SamsungAppsWidget_BannerStyle_common
system/app/SamsungDLPService
system/app/SamsungSans
system/app/SamsungTTS
system/app/SamsungWidget_ActiveApplication
system/app/SBrowser_4_LATEST
system/app/SecEmail_K
system/app/SecExchange
system/app/SecurityLogAgent
system/app/SLocation
system/app/SnsImageCache
system/app/SPrintSpooler6
system/app/talkback
system/app/UniversalMDMClient
system/app/Videos
system/app/Vvm_TMO
system/app/WeatherDaemon2014_T_MMR
system/app/withTV
system/priv-app/AccessTmobile_TMO
system/priv-app/AdaptClient
system/priv-app/AutomationTest_FB
system/priv-app/DiagMonAgent
system/priv-app/EasyLauncher2
system/priv-app/ECID-release_TMO
system/priv-app/FBInstaller
system/priv-app/FotaAgent
system/priv-app/HancomOfficeEditor
system/priv-app/KLMSAgent
system/priv-app/LocationWidget_M
system/priv-app/Lookout_TMO
system/priv-app/MILK_US
system/priv-app/NoiseField
system/priv-app/SAMSUNG_PLUS
system/priv-app/SamsungLinkPlatform
system/priv-app/SecMyFiles2014MUP
system/priv-app/SOAgent
system/priv-app/SNS_v2
system/priv-app/SPPPushClient_Prod
system/priv-app/TouchWizHome
system/media/audio/ui/PowerOn.ogg
so far haven't had any issues
Thanks for the topic/lists @WaterMan! & @kyoji001, I loves some debloating... wait! I... don't care for bloat... Err, both! :silly:
Are you guys using a particular tool for uninstallation or doing so manually? I've used TB with filters in the past but have encountered some (minor, but semi annoying) issues in the past. I had planned on using System App Remover on my next fresh install based on recommendations/friendliness wrt lib files but then an update added a location permission, which set off my sketch alert and put me off of that app.
Ok, this is going to be long... feel free to skim :good: I did an interesting test last night, although I'm still running 5.1.1 (TEKxodus 7.4R2). I had removed about 200 unwanted system apps along with their data via TB a couple of months ago. Like I said, issues were minor and sporadic (mostly various GAPPS fc's). My phone's been running fine, so I didn't bother trying the following until last night, mainly just in the interest of contributing to this discussion, although I can't say yet whether or not this is "safe" on MM... if you think it might be problematic for any reason, please chime in! The steps that I took are here: extracted the system/lib directory from my current ROM's install archive, cut & pasted the entire original system/lib directory into the same directory on the active TB debloated ROM skipping present files and replacing those that were missing/deleted - I skipped subfolders at first then checked my install to see if any of them were missing files which they weren't, next I wiped cache & dalvik in recovery and optimized databases in Synapse (for good measure...), step 4) ????, 5) Profit!(?)
I used Root Explorer to do my lib directory manipulation, and after copying the missing modules, I selected all files in my actual system/lib directories to get a count then did the same in the folder I had extracted which then contained all of the files that were already present and therefor skipped. There were 7 more files in my active lib directory, so it seems that's how many modules my debloating had removed.
I wasn't really sure if/how I'd be able to tell if restoring the modules had any positive effect since the only problems that I had with my phone were so sporadic. I did however run a bench (Antutu) before and after (this morning after the phone had been back on overnight and I had used it a decent amount). The main reason that I was curious about bench scores is that I expected to get higher average scores after debloating, but was surprised that my bench scores stayed exactly where they had been (always somewhere between 68,000 and 69,200. I always screenshot the detailed results with all of the sections expanded (scroll-capture :good: ) after running a bench and jot down any factors or settings that might have some impact on performance on the image before saving it.
Well, it turns out I was... very possibly... right to be suspicious about the lack of an increase in my average bench score. I made sure to use my phone some before testing after my dalvik/cache wipes and such - played a game for a bit, did some web browsing. So after some pretty surprisingly consistent scoring within a pretty narrow range, this morning I hit 72,871(!) with all of the extra points attributed to the (surprisingly, I suppose) 3D tests... some of the other results that I saw in the detailed section were actually a bit lower compared to my test from last night, but all within 500 points of my previous average, i.e. "normal". I'll test again in a week or so or before updating to MM (whichever comes first).
So to wrap this up, I would cautiously recommend this technique for debloating. Summarized: uninstall unwanted system apps however you want, then restore your system/lib directory to it's default install state from the extracted folder from whatever ROM you have installed. Do so at your own risk, of course, particularly if you're on MM. I'll follow the same steps that I posted after doing the update and report back on the results.
Thanks again for this thread and the bloat lists. This type of thread is always a super helpful resource!
The list I compiled is what I personally removed, and tested, using Titanium Backup. No side effects other than the app in question being deleted obviously. I just moved the list around, I have one last chunk of apps to go through. One of these causes the error "emergencyManagerService has stopped" when deleted, and also causes ultra power saving mode to stop working. I will have it done by tonight, and find exactly what app is doing this!
WaterMan! said:
The list I compiled is what I personally removed, and tested, using Titanium Backup. No side effects other than the app in question being deleted obviously. I just moved the list around, I have one last chunk of apps to go through. One of these causes the error "emergencyManagerService has stopped" when deleted, and also causes ultra power saving mode to stop working. I will have it done by tonight, and find exactly what app is doing this!
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Hey Waterman,
Looking at your list my bet is on something to do with the Launcher. Ultra Power Saving replaces your default launcher with a special BW launcher; I'm thinking that its just a skinned Touchwiz launcher.
kyoji001 said:
Hey Waterman,
Looking at your list my bet is on something to do with the Launcher. Ultra Power Saving replaces your default launcher with a special BW launcher; I'm thinking that its just a skinned Touchwiz launcher.
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Spot on! Post has been updated! Seems like my list is practically complete I may do some more tweaking here and there, but that is the vast majority of it. Thanks for the great info!
Never mind. I found the S7 clock apk and it works fine.
Umm...I accidentally uninstalled the stock clock app Could someone possibly upload that apk?
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Spot on! Post has been updated! Seems like my list is practically complete I may do some more tweaking here and there, but that is the vast majority of it. Thanks for the great info!
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I don't know if its worth mentioning in your first post, but the ANT HAL services all have to do with basically fitness wearables. If you use any that aren't BT and remove the ANT+ packages I imagine they will stop functioning.
How do you actually go about removing thsese items?
What are the steps for debloating?
Thanks!
Personally I like some of the Samsung apps & features otherwise I would use a non-Samsung ROM like Resurrection Remix.
I love SHealth and have a Gear VR. I'm surprised if you have a Note 4 and don't use SHealth with its cool heartrate, pulse ox, UV, stress level and other monitoring features. Also think the Samsung photo editor is actually one of the better ones.
Never used CarMode is but it seems like something useful.
Not sure what happens with any of these if you remove Samsung Account and Galaxy Apps I think they may be necessary at least for updates to these apps and for storing the SHealth data.
hehehaha123 said:
How do you actually go about removing thsese items?
What are the steps for debloating?
Thanks!
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I used Titanium Backup. There are other apps out there as well, or you can even do it manually.
kyoji001 said:
I don't know if its worth mentioning in your first post, but the ANT HAL services all have to do with basically fitness wearables. If you use any that aren't BT and remove the ANT+ packages I imagine they will stop functioning.
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Yes that is true, and that is exactly what ANT+ does. 99% of people will never use it, I know I personally will not. I haven't yet posted what everything does, but I will. I have been busy and out of town
Aethera said:
Personally I like some of the Samsung apps & features otherwise I would use a non-Samsung ROM like Resurrection Remix.
I love SHealth and have a Gear VR. I'm surprised if you have a Note 4 and don't use SHealth with its cool heartrate, pulse ox, UV, stress level and other monitoring features. Also think the Samsung photo editor is actually one of the better ones.
Never used CarMode is but it seems like something useful.
Not sure what happens with any of these if you remove Samsung Account and Galaxy Apps I think they may be necessary at least for updates to these apps and for storing the SHealth data.
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Again, you may use it, but that's a niche. I would never use any of those features. Note 4 is way too big to work out with, nor would I want to. I have never touched the Photo Editor. Car Mode does nothing practical other than neuter phone functionality when driving. Proceed with caution, and don't delete anything you use.