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Hello everyone
I would like to spread the word and inform everyone that Haykuro is looking for some $$$ to get N1. He did a lot for Android development and we are where we are now in part because of him. Check out his pledgie and donate a few bucks if you can. I figured if 50 people donate $4-5 he can get N1 easily.
*Disclaimer: Steve did not ask nor endorsed me to post this. I am not associated with him in any way. I do appreciate what he did for us though and what he still does behind the scene. I too donated as much as I could (which is not much). Please don't post negative comments here, if you don't have anything nice to say - please don't say anything.
Thank you for taking time to read this.
You've made a thread on behalf of someone you don't know, asking all of us to give our money to someone we don't know.. someone who mysteriously no longer owns the last phone given to him for free, who we have no reason to trust, and who ran away from this forum in a mood after people realised he wasn't all he was painted as.
No offense to you, but this is pathetic on a whole new level.
Haykuro may have done some good work on rooting the magic, but he is not the all-conquering god of the scene legend has built him up to be. He can buy his own phone just like the rest of us.
inb4 don't have anything nice to say.
Someone we don't know? Haven't been around long enough, have you?
The way I see it, there were (and still are) many, many others less deserving "devs" around filling their pockets with the stupid contributions. Steve pretty much got a2sd started, along with other improvements that are now standard on some roms (remember when cyanogen used to pack htc ime, camera, etc on his roms, they were originally steve's findings).
He wasn't like the copy/paste devs that plague this forum now recycling the work figured out by others, or much less, a scumbag like drizzy.
But, I have to say I agree with you saying that if he wants it, he should buy it himself. I've never been a fan of the donation things. Just don't undermine Steve, because he's done far more than most here.
jubeh said:
Someone we don't know? Haven't been around long enough, have you?
The way I see it, there were (and still are) many, many others less deserving "devs" around filling their pockets with the stupid contributions. Steve pretty much got a2sd started, along with other improvements that are now standard on some roms (remember when cyanogen used to pack htc ime, camera, etc on his roms, they were originally steve's findings).
He wasn't like the copy/paste devs that plague this forum now recycling the work figured out by others, or much less, a scumbag like drizzy.
But, I have to say I agree with you saying that if he wants it, he should buy it himself. I've never been a fan of the donation things. Just don't undermine Steve, because he's done far more than most here.
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Yea I didn't mean to come across so harshly to him.. He did some good work back in the day, but it riles me how he's regarded as the messiah by most of the newcomers to the scene. He discovered and supplied a lot things through his fabled htc contact (which was ruined for everyone by the aformentioned scumbag) and he some good ideas, but his releases were mostly a case of dropping leaked files into a standard build.. and, let's be honest, weren't that great. he's not some awesome groundbreaking coder as everyone now seems to think.
My main point in my rant above is that nobody actually knows this guy beyond twitter stalking and old forum posts.. History has shown how different people can be behind their username (scumbag again). I don't think we should be giving money to old "devs" that have been out of the game for ages, on the promise that they might do some unknown awesome thing with the new hardware.
I think its a pretty scummy thing for him to directly ask people to buy him a new phone. If anyone else without his status did that, we'd laugh at them.
I really see nothing good coming out of this thread.
Just wanted to say how much I love these forums and how great everyone is with helping out and contributing. My last three phones have all been wonderful experiences due in no small part to the work of everyone on these forums. You guys all deserve a pat on the back.
MaximReapage said:
Just wanted to say how much I love these forums and how great everyone is with helping out and contributing. My last three phones have all been wonderful experiences due in no small part to the work of everyone on these forums. You guys all deserve a pat on the back.
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Thanks brotha'
Your a part of the great community here as well so make sure to pat yourself on the back as well.
Even tho I wont meet you guys irl I really do appreciate all the insight everyone brings. Even if I disagree with somebody I still appreciate them even bringing an idea I didn't have before to my head. Its also amazing to have such a helpful community that will help each other out just for the good of the group (like a wolfpack). I continuously make people on here my contacts just so I can read up on their posts and what they had to say since I respect their opinions so much.
There is strength in numbers guys, and this group is one of the strongest out there.
Since I haven't made one of these threads in awhile either I have to say thank you guys for being a great group that I can rely upon when need be and a great source of insight
I'd also like to say thanks to all the people who've answered my silly nooby questions since Febuary. And also big thanks to developers like Enomther.
I also benefited a lot from the xds-developers gang. Thanks a lot !
It started with a HTC Diamond running Windows Mobile. I've flashed roms, modified the phone and downloaded a lot of software.
Now that I have a N1 coming up in a few days, I'm busy learning about Android and understanding the N1 to make the most of it. On xda-developers of course !
THANKS - THANKS
I too would like to say a big THANK YOU ALL!!!
If I win the lottery I'm going to build a huge developer center and get every dev on overtime... Well compensated of course lol
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I have been a member of this website for quite a few years and just wanted to leave a note for all the devs in the epic community. Those of us who have been around for quite some time can and always will be patient waiting for finished products. I started in the htc touch forums and there were issues with NFSfan and some of his roms. THANK YOU DEVS OF THE EPIC!! Hopefully I can donate a beer to each one of you and especially WHOSDAMAN for all his great work in the past. I just wanted to say thank you with no complaints!
Welcome
I appreciate all the devs for there time and dedication for giving us some great roms. Thanks!
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Epic Proportions
I joined in February when I got my Rhodium and wanted to break it loose and begin flashing.
The drama as of late in THIS forum is pointless drivel IMO.
Thanks to noobnl, Firon, whosdaman, evilpeople, mammon88, schizopunk, ACS syndicate and everyone else that's not fresh in my memory (lmfao.. sorry) for all the work you have all done thus far.
Too much 'entitlement' and bickering and not enough thanks for what we currently have.
"Thanks for what we currently have, and for what we'll have tomorrow, or next thursday, or whenever it comes"
Now put that out or pass it my way
YAR
Thanks Devs!
I have gotten into Android and Samsung mobile development soley because of the progress made here and around the community for the devices that I own. I have been programming here and there for years, writing code for fun, but for a novice programmer looking to jump right into the field.. the unofficial support provided by everyones ideas and solutions has made it a great transition.
I for one think that this kind of stuff is a blast, its my FAVORITE hobby. My line of work fortunately provides me with free time during my work day, and at home I can do more collaborative work. I would love to add some hours of freelancing to the projects.
Right now other priorities and holidays will keep me hibernating and tinkering alone, but I definately look forward to joining the community as an active member at the end of this year
+1 love u devs
daddymikey1975 said:
I joined in February when I got my Rhodium and wanted to break it loose and begin flashing.
The drama as of late in THIS forum is pointless drivel IMO.
Thanks to noobnl, Firon, whosdaman, evilpeople, mammon88, schizopunk, ACS syndicate and everyone else that's not fresh in my memory (lmfao.. sorry) for all the work you have all done thus far.
Too much 'entitlement' and bickering and not enough thanks for what we currently have.
"Thanks for what we currently have, and for what we'll have tomorrow, or next thursday, or whenever it comes"
Now put that out or pass it my way
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I'm touched, someone actually remembers me from the Vogue. I was pretty good if I don't say so myself haha
(Ahhh the glory days....)
dekeMX said:
I have been a member of this website for quite a few years and just wanted to leave a note for all the devs in the epic community. Those of us who have been around for quite some time can and always will be patient waiting for finished products. I started in the htc touch forums and there were issues with NFSfan and some of his roms. THANK YOU DEVS OF THE EPIC!! Hopefully I can donate a beer to each one of you and especially WHOSDAMAN for all his great work in the past. I just wanted to say thank you with no complaints!
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Thanks
Yes, thank you devs! Drama or not, I still appreciate the work you do. My Epic runs so much better because of you all.
I was reading punkkaos's twitter and noticed that he had CM6.2 already running. He was just debugging.
Anyways, thank you ivory cruncher for your donation to him.
I would also like the non devs to be more thankful as the devs have no obligation to you. If you donate, that is what it is a donation... When you request, be appreciative and thankful for their work. Jt, bird, and others has put some serious work into this phone. Be thankful instead of the crazy attitude and sense of obligation. Otherwise, you can develop your own rom...
Anyways, thanks to ivorycruncher.
RacerXFD said:
I was reading punkkaos's twitter and noticed that he had CM6.2 already running. He was just debugging.
Anyways, thank you ivory cruncher for your donation to him.
I would also like the non devs to be more thankful as the devs have no obligation to you. If you donate, that is what it is a donation... When you request, be appreciative and thankful for their work. Jt, bird, and others has put some serious work into this phone. Be thankful instead of the crazy attitude and sense of obligation. Otherwise, you can develop your own rom...
Anyways, thanks to ivorycruncher.
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well said
the "right of entitlement" attitude of some people is ridiculous.
personally, I'm very appreciative of all the dudes that have worked to make the SF more tolerable
RacerXFD said:
I was reading punkkaos's twitter and noticed that he had CM6.2 already running. He was just debugging.
Anyways, thank you ivory cruncher for your donation to him.
I would also like the non devs to be more thankful as the devs have no obligation to you. If you donate, that is what it is a donation... When you request, be appreciative and thankful for their work. Jt, bird, and others has put some serious work into this phone. Be thankful instead of the crazy attitude and sense of obligation. Otherwise, you can develop your own rom...
Anyways, thanks to ivorycruncher.
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I completely agree. Thanks a ton to Ivorycruncher.. you guys that had an eris like me, you will know the sorts of things we have to look forward to with punk.kaos.. I love our devs already, and now that punk.kaos is here, we're really beginning to gain momentum on the fascinate. As racer has already pointed out, kaos already has cm6 booting, and everybody is working on gb.. I think we really have some awesome stuff coming to look forward to.
And beyond that, thanks a bunch to the other devs like jt1134 and birdman and nemesis2all's that are always working to make our phone better. Without you guys, our phone would suck!
-wilshyre
Sent from my OTB 1300mhz black magic fascinate.
Aw, shucks.....
Yeah, it was kind of a big chunk of change, but I really wanted to have Kaos give us a hand. After seeing what he did with the Eris, I couldn't wait to see what he could do with a high-powered phone like the Fascinate.
And quite frankly I was getting tired of seeing all the people who whine and complain about not having any fancy ROMs, and also the crazy ideas people come up with to supposedly help accelerate the process. I saw the "X prize" idea being presented a couple different times, and lots of people were like "yeah, I'll donate," and then it went nowhere.
That is simply the wrong way to do it, because you're giving your money to an unknown third party that (no offense) can't be trusted, and sorry, but without the money in hand to buy the phones to dev on to begin with, it kind of defeats the purpose. The devs will dev for the heck of it, as long as they have the hardware in hand (though donations are always welcome), so the idea of an incentive to get them to dev just seems wrong to me.
I decided to go the other direction and instead of donating for the work after the fact, or to some crazy cash prize incentive, I coughed up the cash to actually put the hardware in his hands. And yeah, we now have a CyanogenMod ROM getting what appears to be dangerously close to a V1 release, with a GB ROM in the works too. What stuns me is the fact that Kaos has had the phone in hand for less than a week, and has already gotten this far.
I'm actually now thinking that going forward, I'm going to start figuring the cost of a dev phone into any new phone I buy, so I can toss one over to Kaos. However, the Fascinate hardware is plenty good enough for me for now, so once I get some decent software from Kaos, I'm probably gonna keep this phone for a couple years.
Thanks, ivorycruncher! You are a gentleman and a scholar!
jv
Big thanks ivorycruncher!
I would also like to say that when kaos/birdman/jt start releasing some Froyo or GB ROMs, I expect to see some healthy donations from you guys too, since their work is worth far more than what that phone cost me.
Oh, and btw, you can call me ivory.
I usually have nothing to say do to the fact that there are plenty of posts that have covered all the questions and issues I've had with my SF. The fact that ivorycruncher did everybody a huge favor and got punkkaos involved with the development with this phone is truly awesome. Thank you ivorycruncher. Thank you as well to all the fantastic developers who give the time and effort they do to make this a really fun device to own. You geniuses have given me a great escape from the monotony of every day life.
Hey thanks for taking the leap of faith ivorycruncher! Also thanks racerxfd for bringing that to the board.
Thank you Ivory! You really do make it worth having this phone! So do all the other Devs that work on roms and theme's for us. I would like to get into theming and other programing so that one day I can contribute as well!
Cheers!
Haha....I was just looking for ivory's last post so that I could thank him for donating the fascinate and came across this thread, perfect! Thanks ivory, we are all in your debt.
Cheers
Thanks a lot Ivorycruncher !!! All Hail THE DEV : Kaos !!
Thanks so much for moving this pda forward.
Now that we have cm6 and gb roms on the radar more dev's will come!!
Move dev's means more fascinate features.
Thanks for giving us just a little hope for the fascinate.
Ivory I'm sure if you post a donate link you will regain some if not all of your investment..I know I will buy you a 12 pack
orion421 said:
Ivory I'm sure if you post a donate link you will regain some if not all of your investment..I know I will buy you a 12 pack
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Same brother. I'm more than down to help offset your cost.
Yeah have to say thank you Ivory. Really awesome what you did for the whole community.
Actually I agree that people have a sense of entitlement. I expect jt1134 to get naked and dance on me....will it happen? Prolly if he knew how sect I was! Lol jkjkjkjk jt. Alot of people don't know how much time has been spent behind the scenes and in irc coming up with the nods we have. And I have personally spoke with jt, adryn, bird all (except for bird not as much) for extensive periods of time and they work on this shot as much as google themselves. So be thankful. Without them your phone would still blow
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After alot of the negative posting I had seen for awhile I stopped coming in here alot.
Been working on a very minimal ROM similar to SonofSkywalker's builds. Sadly its on temporary hold until I get some RL things taken care of.
Hoping to have it more AOSP than I have it now on the bench. But with our current devs and now punk on board my nubbish skills may not cut it.
Thanks Ivory for getting punk on board. Thanks to all the devs pouring their heart into the phone.
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Yes, another thank you thread. This is the one topic that justifies more than one thread. I recently pm'd a developer a lengthy compliment and received an interesting response.
As I read through the development forum I see too many posts asking for eta or complaints of bugs and *****ing about this and that. There is simply not enough thanking these guys for what they do FOR FREE!!!! we take for granted how much time and effort they put into their work and simply want want want and expect them to deliver like it's their dang job or something.
Instead of continuing to ramble, developers thank you for your time, free products, free labor, free mods, and I wish I had the power to banish those who ***** at you or put demands on you.
Guys, respect what our developers do and next time you think about asking about an eta or think about complaining, just say thanks.
From the big ole Note
Could not agree more. Thanks guys! (that includes gals in my book).
As a developer myself, although not in this arena, I know how much work it is, even though we would probably do it anyway just because we're wired that way!
I know the developer I spoke with was very appreciative of the message and stated that he wished there was more appreciation around. I just can't believe the audacity some people have to fuss at a developer or complain to them over trivial things. Obviously they should offer support but that is not what I am referring to.
And your reply reminded me that I did leave out the ladies! Thank you too lady devs! You're all the more sexy
From the big ole Note
There are always some aholes around. XDA is pretty big so by the simple probability there are bound to be few jerks around. You can ignore those people most of the times.
What I dont like that sometimes other members make too big a deal out of simple complaint in the developer section. Lot of people just flame someone because he asked something that has been asked 20 pages ago in thread or complained about something. Those are equally bad.
And then there are few developers themselves who are sometimes very rude to people who are just trying to help by pointing out some things or passing some suggestions to the developers. I wont take names but one developer simply told me that I dont need to give him any advice and I should stop using his work if I dont like the way he does it when I simply suggested something regarding the way he was managing files, that too via PM.
Its all part of the community though.
I agree respect definitely goes both ways. I also never have and never will agree with anyone flaming someone for asking a noob question even if it's been asked a million times. We were all noobs once and Lord knows search is a pain sometimes. And what does flaming a new kid accomplish anyway? Nothing.
Yes I've seen developers have bad attitudes also so you are right it does go both ways. I just hope that this place can begin to become more family and community like and less flame friendly although it's hard as it grows and the members get younger with no manners or respect.
I came from and still occasionally visit the evo 3d forum and it is way worse than this one as far as childish flaming and trolling.
From the big ole Note
Couldn´t agree more, thanks for the thread!
XDA Developers is so much fun! It so much became a hobby of mine, to read through the threads, to try out this and that, to flash roms on new devices (tablets, smartphones).
It was such a great experience to see my old XDA compact (HTC magician) getting reborn again every quartal after cotulla published a new rom for it.
Nearly 383984 devices later (feels like that^^) I´m on my second Note now. And it´s still so much fun to be here and to enjoy the work others are doing for free!
To all developers out there: Thank you so much for giving me that kind of entertainment AND professional support in the same time! Thank you for being allowed to be a part of this incredible community (and with community i refer to the hundreds of devs here, not the millions of users like me ). Thanks for your efforts and time!
If I was a millionaire I would definitely be donating to all of you whether I used your products or not.
And as a side note I wish there was more sharing and helping among some people. Some are too proud, I've seen some in other forums set others up and other dirty stuff which is ridiculous. Pride comes before the fall
From the big ole Note
Without the developers hard work, we all be stuck on using un-rootable slow often horrible looking stock UI from the manufactures with inconsistent update. I’d be better off using an iphone or a Nexus if that is the case.
Been able to run root apps and flash different ROM is what keeps me buying Android devices instead of an iphone.
Also it is great fun leaning how to root devices and flash ROMs.
So BIG thanks to all the developers on this forum for their valuable time and hard work.