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so ever snice i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
I've been running DC off and on for almost a month now and have had excellent battery life. My awake times fluctuate (right now I'm at 13:30 Up time and 8:37 Awake time) but it hasn't been crazy.
Just curious, what is considered a "good" awake time/up time ratio? Are there better numbers on any of the other ROMs?
before if flashed it. lets say my uptime would be 50 minutes. my awake time would prob only be 2 minutes if i didnt use my phone at all. but now that i flashed it, my uptime would be 50 minutes and my awake time will prob like 40 minutes.
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
Warrior 3000 said:
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
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it shouldnt be totally different, but even if it isn't it works...or you could live with your battery life.
I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
doojer said:
I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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yea after a search...weird i didnt think it worked...i found that this complaint is on almost every rom by at least one person. There are quite a few fixes. biggest one is disabling stock messaging app if used and using handcent or chomp.
Also you can go to settings, about phone, battery, and see what is using the battery.
This isnt for you dooj just quoted on your statement.
Warrior 3000 said:
so ever since i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
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I had that happen recently to a friend. Try just doing a factory reset.
Settings -> privacy -> factory reset.
Your phone will still remain rooted and the rom will still remain too.
This fixed it for him.
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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go to messages, then press menu and go to setting. uncheck auto-retrieve, and uncheck received notifications.
edit* i did this to my wifes phone a few weeks ago as she was having a problem on another rom and her awake time still shows high but her battery is much better and she quit hitting me.
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
Warrior 3000 said:
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
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rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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It is mms.apk.
I have been running the stock messaging with no problems.
sdotcarlisle said:
whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
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My time without signal is 0% or non-existant.
mrinehart93 said:
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
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As for the current Damage Control ROM having a wake-lock issue, what IS the latest version? I am running v2.07.2 (the one before the TrevE mod) and I have no wake-lock, random reboots, or time without signal.
I have not found it to be the rom that is keeping things awake technically. I have tried to figure this one out, and all I can say it seems to be tied to some apps that I have downloaded that starts to throw the awake issue off.
This has happened to me on all 2.1 roms.......after a couple weeks of downloading some apps.
I only use root explorer and mixzing for now and have not had a problem with just those two.
I think I even confirmed that Pac-man was keeping the phone awake, although this is probably not the only one.
anyway, hope it helps.
ok so this will happen quite often to me after messing with customizations or just using different apps. I exit apps that stay running correctly (at least ones I know I need to). my ram will fill up, or almost up and then the phone will freeze for a few seconds. when it comes back up I open system panel and close all inactive apps and anything else I feel needs to be closed. this will leave me with 50% or less free.
usually i'm not concerned, but twice now my phone has rebooted due to this. this happened once back in june and now just today. I had navigation up and when I knew where I was going I woke up the phone to exit it, but the phone was frozen. so I put it down and it actually keeps giving me directions. then I heard the start up tone, I didn't bother to look just put the phone in my pocket. a few minutes later it reboots again. again I didn't bother cause I did not need it. when I did need it I found it with no cell or 3g reception and no icons loaded up. reboot the phone manually and all is fine.
I am rooted with the latest fresh rom. but I have only been rooted for 6 days and I have been getting this memory issue the whole time I have owned the phone(release day purchase). including one reboot before rooting.
I keep reading that we should not have to worry about memory and that android takes care of it by closing apps when new apps need the memory. is this really true?
usually I keep it free by using system panel but I forget sometimes. I haven't used task killers as I read mix reviews and I like some things manual anyways.
so, is this normal? am I doing something wrong, or is there a setting I need? do I just need to go get a task killer?
what are the best task killers? and is there any programs I should not kill? or whats the optimal way to set these up?
thanx for any help you can give me
Try using Advanced Task Killer (there's a free version in the Market) and change its security settings to low, then start killing processes you don't need.
While Android is supposed to have good RAM management... Well, as you can see, it's not that great. Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
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Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
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me too... when I remember .. lol
cool I'll try out ATK
whenever im out running listening to the radio the FM radio always shuts down after about 25-30 minutes. It will restart ok once I reopen it but its still annoying having to stop. Does anyone know why this happens?
yeaaah!! I have come across this, but normally when i hide the radio app in the background to use another app. Is this what you do? I think it may be something to do with Android's memory handling, but it's worth taking note of; maybe it's not completely unavoidable...
if you use auto memory manager off the market, the One with the fish logo, you can white list anything that you want to stay alive.. that will help if it's the android system killing the app..
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Yeah I use ATK. Whitelisting is normally the first thing I check though I'm unsure at the mo and not able to check, but will do so as soon as I can to make sure it's whitelisted...
ste.. auto memory manager works with the android memory manager, so you can stop the built in mem manager from shutting it off, through that..
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if you use auto memory manager off the market, the One with the fish logo, you can white list anything that you want to stay alive.. that will help if it's the android system killing the app..
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ill have to give this a try. No idea whats causing it but its around the same place on my run each time no matter which route I take, always after about 25 minutes
I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
blackhawk said:
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
Shaamaan said:
Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.
Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
Shaamaan said:
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
blackhawk said:
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
Shaamaan said:
I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.
I got Tab S5e a month ago. It was a 128 GB/6 GB version. Okay, since the day I picked it up, it works great and functions very well but it restarts randomly like twice a day.
What can I do to prevent this?
Clear system cache and try a hard reboot.
Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app.
Any recently installed or uninstalled apps or updates?
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Clear system cache and try a hard reboot.
Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app.
Any recently installed or uninstalled apps or updates?
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I only have Telegram, Twitter, Keep Notes, Groove Coaster, Mario Kart, Mana, and Discord installed.
Still on UI 3.1 and Android 11.
kokoroanime said:
I only have Telegram, Twitter, Keep Notes, Groove Coaster, Mario Kart, Mana, and Discord installed.
Still on UI 3.1 and Android 11.
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I never allow any social media apps to be installed... they are malware by their very nature.
Check for memory leaks. That could cause that type of behavior.
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I never allow any social media apps to be installed... they are malware by their very nature.
Check for memory leaks. That could cause that type of behavior.
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I've installed Telegram, Discord, and Twitter on my Tab A 9.7 and I never had the problem.
kokoroanime said:
I've installed Telegram, Discord, and Twitter on my Tab A 9.7 and I never had the problem.
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You do now... and malware is a potential cause.
You are what you load.
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You do now... and malware is a potential cause.
You are what you load.
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I want to know how to Clear system cache and try a hard reboot on S5e and how to check for memory leak?
kokoroanime said:
I want to know how to Clear system cache and try a hard reboot on S5e and how to check for memory leak?
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Google for the button combination.
Clear system cache is found on the boot menu.
A hard reset is sometimes called a soft reset and stimulates pulling the battery. On many Androids it's done by holding the power button down for 20-30 seconds until it reboots.
I've never seen a memory leak on an Android and once on an Apple app. More common on Window machines. The ram usage will kept creeping up until it runs out of ram and reboots.
The app causing it will show it in its memory usage in Developer options. Pretty easy to spot.
A poorly coded 3rd party app is usually the cause.
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Google for the button combination.
Clear system cache is found on the boot menu.
A hard reset is sometimes called a soft reset and stimulates pulling the battery. On many Androids it's done by holding the power button down for 20-30 seconds until it reboots.
I've never seen a memory leak on an Android and once on an Apple app. More common on Window machines. The ram usage will kept creeping up until it runs out of ram and reboots.
The app causing it will show it in its memory usage in Developer options. Pretty easy to spot.
A poorly coded 3rd party app is usually the cause.
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I already did clear system cache which was successful and I gave it a day to see if it worked out but it didn't. It's still rebooting random every 6 hours especially when I'm not on it.
kokoroanime said:
I already did clear system cache which was successful and I gave it a day to see if it worked out but it didn't. It's still rebooting random every 6 hours especially when I'm not on it.
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Does it happen in safe mode?
If so either the firmware is corrupted or it's a hardware failure. How old is the battery, it's current capacity? Did you check for a memory leak?
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Does it happen in safe mode?
If so either the firmware is corrupted or it's a hardware failure. How old is the battery, it's current capacity? Did you check for a memory leak?
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I haven't set it on Safe mode.
How old is the battery? I got it off Amazon one month ago. The battery is just good and the battery life lasted so good and it never drains. I never used the tablet while it's charging.
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I haven't set it on Safe mode.
How old is the battery? I got it off Amazon one month ago. The battery is just good and the battery life lasted so good and it never drains. I never used the tablet while it's charging.
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Return it if you can. Twist their ears...
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Return it if you can. Twist their ears...
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Is there another way to prevent this?
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Is there another way to prevent this?
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You really want to go through Samsung warranty?
Better get while the getting's good. Run through the Amazon
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You really want to go through Samsung warranty?
Better get while the getting's good. Run through the Amazon
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Oh yes, my S5e would stay up to about 11 hours until it restarted itself randomly.
And sometimes it restarts suddenly for like every 2 hours.
So I've switched it to the safe mode to see if it happened in Safe Mode or not but unfortunately, that tablet was up for 5 hours during Safe mode until it restarted itself again.