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Real Big Problem!!

I was running haykuros hero, i had run two optimizers and started deleting things to make space and increase performance,
I think i deleted something that now doesnt allow the phone to start.The only things i think could do this were 1, the gmail widget, this prevented the phone from syncing with my account prompting me to attempt to reflash, and 2, i had also deleted some setup app (which i thought many people had) and im guessing this is why i couldnt get past the very initial setup after reflashing.
I decided to use my card reader to flash dude 1.2 lite in an attempt to start over but it just bootloops at HTC.
I am desperate to determine what i deleted and how to put it back on my phone, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help in any way possible. I have card reader and adb but dont know where to start.

Honestly at this point, you're better off starting from scratch (ALT+W and ALT+S). You shouldn't loose anything but time. It's all replaceable (assuming any contacts u created since were all sync'd first). No worries, you'll be just that more familiar with your fone and how to flash it!
(P.S. No sarcasm intended )
Aloha-

i did alt w alt s when i flashed dude and it looped. I was just able to flash ion alright though so maybe that will be my starting point to get back to rosie...
So its the htc setup wizard im missing, anybody know enough about this stuff to tell me how i can get this back on my phone...

i would say you are gonna need to pull it out of the update you flashed and adb push it to your /system/app directory, i don't know for sure that this will help but it might

DMaverick50 said:
i did alt w alt s when i flashed dude and it looped. I was just able to flash ion alright though so maybe that will be my starting point to get back to rosie...
So its the htc setup wizard im missing, anybody know enough about this stuff to tell me how i can get this back on my phone...
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What I am saying is that since you are unable to unequivocally determine which file caused this problem after deleting, it would be easier to start over again. That's worked 4 me every time I've unintentionally deleted a needed file or something similar. It might require loading another ROM (ION is great 4 this, that's what I use as well as easy if u have a backup and can just fastboot flash it) to get the app2sd info all back in the right place on the ext2 partition. IMO this is better because u all the files in their proper place and that's a good starting point. Are you using Haykuro's HERO or one of the compacted builds that don't use app2sd?
tubaking182 is also correct if you know what files u need to replace.

Is Vogue-Android Superuser even possible?

is it possible that we can root our vogue-android phones or enable superuser functionallity? tia

simple answer is no we cannot. ive asked this and it's not possible, this is not a rom we flash to our vogues. one reason i chose to not use android right now. if you want to root your phone you will have to buy a g1 or hero, etc....

fixxxer2008 said:
simple answer is no we cannot. ive asked this and it's not possible, this is not a rom we flash to our vogues. one reason i chose to not use android right now. if you want to root your phone you will have to buy a g1 or hero, etc....
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well...why isnt it possible? i kno we cannot flash android, cant we just change something in the system.img to give us superuser?

jamezelle said:
well...why isnt it possible? i kno we cannot flash android, cant we just change something in the system.img to give us superuser?
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there are alot of things we cannot do that real android phone users can. maybe when the devs make a rom we can flash it will be possible. trust me ive looked into this and i don't think there's a way to make us superusers all the time or root the phone. what id like to see is for usb mass storage to work so we don't have to use abd all the time.

fixxxer2008 said:
there are alot of things we cannot do that real android phone users can. maybe when the devs make a rom we can flash it will be possible. trust me ive looked into this and i don't think there's a way to make us superusers all the time or root the phone. what id like to see is for usb mass storage to work so we don't have to use abd all the time.
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well i guess all we can do is hope lol thanks

fixxxer2008 said:
there are alot of things we cannot do that real android phone users can. maybe when the devs make a rom we can flash it will be possible. trust me ive looked into this and i don't think there's a way to make us superusers all the time or root the phone. what id like to see is for usb mass storage to work so we don't have to use abd all the time.
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Nonsense, adb gives you root access as do all recent ion builds. There are actually things we have that a real android phone can't easily do, e.g. change resolution, use sd for data. What you are probably complaining about is having a read only system partition but even this you could change if you wanted.

what are you trying to achieve by being superuser?

You can become superuser, the problem lies in the fact that current system images uses cramfs for their system.img. If you use DD to create a ext2 .img file and clone the cramfs .img file into it, you can have read write ability. The .img will be a good chunk bigger though.

if someone REALLY wants an ext2 image of one of my builds I'm happy to share. PM me with which build and the reason you want it/what you want to be able to change.

dzo said:
Nonsense, adb gives you root access as do all recent ion builds. There are actually things we have that a real android phone can't easily do, e.g. change resolution, use sd for data. What you are probably complaining about is having a read only system partition but even this you could change if you wanted.
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thanks for clarifying this
zenulator said:
what are you trying to achieve by being superuser?
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certain apps need the ability

Just to add some clarification to the already fine answers that are here...
The reason we use cramfs right now is because it's read-only. We used ext2 before, but being read-write, there was too much activity on the SD card, and caused some people's cards to fry. Making the system read-only has improved this, and I can't recall anyone's cards frying since that move was made.
AFAIK, a flashable ROM is still being worked on, the idea being not only that this will free our SD cards to be true removable media, but also allow us to go back to a read-write filesystem. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
It has nothing to do with the phone not being "rooted." It's just read-only to save our hardware atm.

craig0r said:
Just to add some clarification to the already fine answers that are here...
The reason we use cramfs right now is because it's read-only. We used ext2 before, but being read-write, there was too much activity on the SD card, and caused some people's cards to fry. Making the system read-only has improved this, and I can't recall anyone's cards frying since that move was made.
AFAIK, a flashable ROM is still being worked on, the idea being not only that this will free our SD cards to be true removable media, but also allow us to go back to a read-write filesystem. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
It has nothing to do with the phone not being "rooted." It's just read-only to save our hardware atm.
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well I'm not sure if we could run anything beyond 1.5 on our flash, as they said the g1 doesnt have enough memory to run the official hero rom. I'm confused about the cheaper HTC qvga android phones that run donut but without touchflo..heres a vid a link
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/08/21/htc-click-stars-in-youtube-video/

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id like to see the system images rooted from the start, that way we can run all of the "root only" apps on the market.
devs is this even possible? if not that really sucks as it limits us from doing what others can do with real android based phones.

Undo apps2sd?

Hi all...
I've been getting a lot of suspicious errors recently (force closes and app shortcut names disappearing) and I'd like to go from apps2sd back to just a normal setup with my apps on the internal phone storage.
Can somebody please verify that the instructions here are up to date? I'm a little nervous about wiping my data (or bricking my phone).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Apps2SD
Also, can somebody tell me whether doing this will wipe out the (single) app I paid for from the Marketplace? If so, can I redownload it, or will I need to pay for it a second time?
I originally got apps2sd set up by using the recovery ROM prior to flashing Modaco's custom ROM v1.1.

The easiest thing to do would be to load the new RA 1.5.1 recovery image.
Then boot into it.
Go to Partiton SD
Select FAT EXT3 SWAP
and then set the partition sizes of EXT3 and SWAP to 0
Is there a reason you want to do this???
This runs a very very minimal chances of bricking your phone. The other method on that Wiki page has more potential to get you in trouble.

Did see the market place question.
There is a method laying around somewhere to copy all of your apps back to the phone instead of loosing them. Restoring a Nandroid backup would likly put them all back into the /apps/ directory sd card or not. apps2sd just changes the location of that directory really.
But the market does keep track of your google account and what apps you purchase, you wont have to re purchase (maybe on a totaly new handset).
hope my jiberish has made sense
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At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.

mkhopper said:
At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
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The possibilities of bricking the phone are very slim, but they still exist. If a phone is truly a brick, not even RUU can help. RUU has to be able to detect the phone is there in Windows, so if its beyond that RUU is useless.
Nothing to worry about as long as follow the *usually* very well written step by steps across the interweb.
If it makes you feel any better I have only heard of one or two people to brick the Hero. Most things are recoverable.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't expect it would brick the phone so much as badly mess it up - like if it expects to run apps from the SD card and they aren't there I could see the phone being tough to use as a phone, but it wouldn't really be "bricked" in the sense of not responding to user input at all.
As far as why I want to do this, I haven't really seen a huge need for apps2sd yet, and when I was recently helping an app developer to debug their app it was just one more weird variable that seemed like a possible source of problems. I'm also hoping to start developing apps myself soon, so having a more vanilla phone seems like a good idea. (I also was influenced by the Fresh ROM apps2sd rant, to be honest.)
Anyhow, thanks for your replies. I'll probably repartition the card from RUU and then restore from Nandroid at that point. Will a repartition wipe the card filesystems out, or is the partitioner smart enough to preserve the existing data?

What I did is RUUed back to 1.2, OTA updated to 1.6
Flashed to the 1.5.1 image
(At this point I went to mess with the partitions and there was no ext)
Flashed to Fresh 1.0

Nand Backup for cloning

I would like to know if it's possible to make a Nand Backup via recovery screeen and then recover it in another Tatto, so I can export the ROM, with apps and settings to a friend's tattoo
If not, is there any other way?
Thanks in advance

Zriel said:
I would like to know if it's possible to make a Nand Backup via recovery screeen and then recover it in another Tatto, so I can export the ROM, with apps and settings to a friend's tattoo
If not, is there any other way?
Thanks in advance
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i did that...it should work...for me all right

Sure it's possible! Since you have identical HW he will get an exact copy of your device (don't know if cache partition is cloned though, could be necessary when using custom ROM using cache as dalvik cache...)...

samsung
Do you think samsung is better ???
they may answer but some thing like "we know it is a problem, but we are working on it, and can not help you now..."
john

Well, I have to say that it hasn't been any success, so it seems not possible. Maybe there's something I gave made wrong, but it says that Nand backup is not possible.

Zriel said:
Well, I have to say that it hasn't been any success, so it seems not possible. Maybe there's something I gave made wrong, but it says that Nand backup is not possible.
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you have to copy the content of HT99****** into your device's HT99°°°°°°°°
don't copy the HT99****** folder because that is the code of the phone backupped...it is compared with the device to restore and they doesn't match ...
so copy the subfolder of the desired backup to your /HT99°°°°°°°
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New way of sharing ROMs?

Hey.
I have a question that is about sharing ROM's for our Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). We all knows that the normal way of sharing a new ROM is to wait for a ROM maker / developer to release a new ROM with new modifications and stuffs.
But what i'm thinking on is another way of sharing current ROMs. What this is about is to install the ROM of your choice and theme / modify it like you want it and then take a whole Nandroid (TWRP) backup of the whole ROM and then compress the nandroid backup files you have on the SD card or internal memory into a RAR file and then upload it to a sharing webpage like MEGA, Google Drive or any other good sharing pages.
Now i'm not sure if this is possible / legal to do and if this kind of question is asked before. But would this work to share a ROM this way and then download the nandroid RAR file from others with the same phone as me and unzip it and put it on the SD card or whatever and then run a restore from the TWRP recovery on our phones?
Or is there other things that will make this impossible to do?
I'm sure this have been asked before, but i can't find anything about this by searching, so that's why i'm just making this topic where i'm asking about this.
And i hope this section was the right place to put this kind of question in?
Greetings from Tom-Helge.

Thing is, how do you leave the personal stuff/apps/app settings out & just keep the stuff you want ? (what stuff exactly are you wanting to share in this way? ?) I can't see how you'd do that. I mean, it wouldn't be a huge stretch for someone to put malicious apps in the nandroid. A lot of people don't even look @ Su toasts, they just hit grant without giving it a thought.
I think you need to explain what you're hoping to achieve out of all this a bit better, and why your way would be better/easier/whatever than the current way people do things.
Edit - Also, I think what I'm getting at is, the way things are at the moment, people have complete control over what goes on their phone. You have to flash a rom/kernel/mod/whatever, and you decide what theme you want, what apps/app settings you want. I can't really see the appeal of what you've proposed in the way you've initially explained it at least (though that may change if you explain it a bit more fully).

MistahBungle said:
Thing is, how do you leave the personal stuff/apps/app settings out & just keep the stuff you want ? (what stuff exactly are you wanting to share in this way? ?) I can't see how you'd do that. I mean, it wouldn't be a huge stretch for someone to put malicious apps in the nandroid. A lot of people don't even look @ Su toasts, they just hit grant without giving it a thought.
I think you need to explain what you're hoping to achieve out of all this a bit better, and why your way would be better/easier/whatever than the current way people do things.
Edit - Also, I think what I'm getting at is, the way things are at the moment, people have complete control over what goes on their phone. You have to flash a rom/kernel/mod/whatever, and you decide what theme you want, what apps/app settings you want. I can't really see the appeal of what you've proposed in the way you've initially explained it at least (though that may change if you explain it a bit more fully).
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Well, it's a more easier way of getting a themed / modified ROM that already exist that might suit you better and might save you alot of time to configure the ROM.
It's pretty much the same way of making a ROM of your choice as the ROM developers do. The ROM developers choose what they want to have in their ROMs and how they want to theme it. While this is sharing a modified ROM after you have installed that existing ROM on your phone.
The concept would be in the same way as the Themer Beta app is. There you can download preconfigured themes and use them the way they are or change them a little after you have downloaded them.
And as for putting malicious apps into the nandroid backups, it would be easy to find out if someone does that and if this type of sharing would be possible and allowed to do here, then the devs always have the banhammer to bust those who have bad intentions towards others here.
I hope this clears a bit more up on what i'm asking after .
EDIT: As for the personal stuffs on your ROM. The way i'm thinking is to install a ROM of your choice and then only modify / theme it the way you want it and leave out the personal stuffs until later when you have created the nandroid backup. Or you could simply remove the accounts and the personal stuffs from the ROM before you creates a backup to.

Ahhh OK, I'm with you now. Still seems like a really convoluted way of doing things to me though. Some people might like it, but if you're the sort of person who roots/mods your phone for the control you have over it, I'm not seeing how a person would be interested in what you're proposing. The people most interested would be people who are time poor or, more likely, people who are too lazy to set their phone up themselves.

MistahBungle said:
Ahhh OK, I'm with you now. Still seems like a really convoluted way of doing things to me though. Some people might like it, but if you're the sort of person who roots/mods your phone for the control you have over it, I'm not seeing how a person would be interested in what you're proposing. The people most interested would be people who are time poor or, more likely, people who are too lazy to set their phone up themselves.
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Well, it will work. The only thing we have to make sure is to not include any apps that cost money to buy. That's very important.
Like now, i can just take a whole nandroid backup of my current OS as it is now. After that i could just remove any apps that's not needed to be included and then remove all of the accounts and stuffs.
When the ROM is like i want it to be, then i can make a new nandroid backup of the ROM i want to share and then just upload it and share it. Then peoples can download that and run a restore from TWRP recovery and install it. After that i can just return to my main ROM that i took a backup of before i started to modify the ROM to be shared.
So if peoples likes the way i have set up my ROM and want to use that, then they will download my nandroid backup.
Ofc, the peoples that downloads my nandroid backup needs to install the other applications they like that's not included in the nandroid backup.
But yeah, it will work, but it really depends on how much interesting this will be to others.
If peoples are intrested in this, then we can make a topic about this and when we share a nandroid backup, then we have to specify what ROM we use, what apps that are included and have several screenshots from how the ROM is looking and so on.