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Looking to switch back to Sense

I have been using CyanogenMod for a while now, but I want to give Sense another try. I have a couple quick questions.
- Are there any Sense ROMs that are a fairly decent balance of fast and stable? I can deal with the occasional force close if the ROM is significantly faster than another, but I'd say stability is more of a priority to me.
- I don't particularly like the Sense People and Calendar apps (I've found they're a bit slower than the AOSP apps). Can I just install the AOSP versions without major stability issues? If yes, would the Sense dialer still be able to pull from the AOSP Contacts app?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I omitted one thing. I'd say that stability is the most important aspect, followed by battery life. I know battery life is mostly determined by the kernel. Can anyone recommend a good Sense kernel as well?
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I would try WarmZ 2.2 or Incredibly Re-Engineered both of those are sense 2.0 and are stable and fast. I liked both. But it's up to you!
Kernel wise, the kernels they come with worked great for me.

SkyRaider 3.5 w/Lou's #8 - slick....
4.0 is due out very soon.

Nils business z with ziggys latest bfs wo havs kernel is very stable with xcellent battery
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Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but there's been a spattering of reports on phantom calls and reboots. Hence, I would not say they are fully stable and dependable. There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard).
In my experience, you need to stick with 100% incredible framework if you value stability and reliability. I am a huge fan of both IncROM and Magnolia. They are both very fast in my book, and everything works out of the box, so to speak. When SR 4 hits in a few days it may be great as well.
To your question about contacts...
No, you cannot simply install AOSP versions onto a Sense ROM. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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Redemption.

k_nivesout said:
I've never had any issues with swype on z roms or had any random reboots or phantom calls (I'm not even sure exactly what that refers to). I've usually used the warm z nightlies. Guess it just depends on the phone/rom.
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yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.

raptir said:
Okay, I have tried Incredibly Reengineered and IncROM. Are there any good ROMs that have more of a stock Sense look to them? I dont like all the transparency and custom colors and etc..
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SkyRaider 3.5, and then 4.0 when it is released (you can look at image previews of 4.0 through ROM manager if you wish).

Epicardium said:
yeah, the issue I'm referring to is more of an annoyance. You know, how the Sense copy/paste functions cover up the Swype word choices when you double-click a word to correct it? It's the little things....Still, I am very torn between Z-ROMs and Inc ROMs because I do like many other things about the Z.
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Oh ok, I never ran into that but I see what you mean. I think after we get the ota update things will be a lot smoother in regards to some of the z rom issues. Assuming we get an updated sense that is..
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Epicardium said:
Z ROMs are nice, and quick, but........ There are also some quirks when using some apps (e.g. swype keyboard). ............
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I use Swype. I also ask annoyed by that issue with the cut and paste option blocking the word choice/edit on MIUI. I assumed it was part of Gingerbread. Not so?
Edit- pls excuse my blunder. Of course Warm Z is not GB so that answers my question. Then again MIUI is AOSP and also has that.
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My strong recommendation would be Magnolia. Options are superb.. battery is splendid... and the developer entertains personal requests.
Best stable and aesthetically pleasing rom for me.

warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus

sruel3216 said:
warm z 2.2 nightly 4/14 is amazing. ziggys new kernel is in it and my phone has never been so smooth and snappy while on a sense rom. sense 2.0 is also a plus
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Yup
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Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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raptir said:
Okay, I'll give Warm Z a shot. I'm using SkyRaider, and while I like the ROM, the battery life is very poor compared to what I was used to with CM7. I'm looking at under two hours of 3g browsing on a charge.
Tried both Chad's kernel as well as Lou's 8, and found similar results.
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That's gotta be some kind of mistake. I've had the best battery life on Skyraider. I usually can get near 18 hours or more...

Well, what kernel are you using? Also, I did find that if I get rid of all my widgets I get better battery life, but that kind of makes Sense seem silly...
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I get fantastic battery off nils business z with ziggys kernel
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(Q) What's your default rom?best one of all you've tried?

What's everyones default rom?
Best batteryy life?
Mine is mikshift and cm7

best ROM i've had is gingerbread shift deck (which i've been using for the past couple weeks), best battery life i've had was on AwesomeROM or MikShift

I'm really liking Mikshift OC'd to 1.5GHz. MikBrando GSense has an awesome look and feel (guess I'm partial to the Sense eye candy and 2.0 is slick) and it will probably be my daily driver once the kernel source is released and it can be OC'd. BrandoKC's green theme really gives it an "executive" look. On the other hand, Sense ROMs can't touch the performance of AOSP ROMs such as cm7 at equivalent clock speeds, but you pay for it with battery life. That's my two cents.
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ive been getting the best battery life on cm7. im on nightly 91 and using the stock kernel clocked to 1 ghz and i can easily go a full 2 days with atleast 15 percent left

default is cm7 stable 7.0.3.1 but lately i've been using shift deck and it's cool.

Shift deck is the very best rom imo. I love it and its better than CM7 to me.
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Miui 1.4.29, amazing speed and 24 hrs plus battery with moderate usage. Ill never go back to sense.... what's the point?
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I wish my GPS worked and I also wished my signal was better so that I could fully enjoy CM7. I keep having to go back to a sense rom to "fix" the GPS issue. I'm on Mikshift at the moment and it's sluggish compared to aosp, but at least it's fully functional for me.

I haven't tried alot of them, but I went with evervolv, I couldn't go back. Even trying cm7 after.
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Shiftdeck!!! Nuff said

I like shiftdeck, though I still don't understand what's with the bootlooping on the last couple of releases.

CM7 is the fastest, smoothest for me and I love the nightlies.
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I'm on the stock rooted rom. I loaded the speedy kingdom rom, but was too laggy and too many FCs for me, so I switched back. I'm running the X99 kernel, running at the defaults (1.2 gHz max), and it's running like a champ. I could run it at 1.5, but it runs so good at 1.2, that I didn't feel the need to go higher. Battery life is good too.

cm7 and x99 is working like a champ for me. so far nothing seems out of place, and all my aftermarket applications works fine such as youmail, gvoice, and gmail pushes as well. 2032 on quadrant :O !!!

Dread 7us said:
CM7 is the fastest, smoothest for me and I love the nightlies.
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Have you tried Shift Deck with x99. It runs awesome, even better than the nightlies. My Quadrant went from 3380 to 3900 switching to Shift Deck. All my other benchmarks went up aswell.

I love deck's ROM also, SO fast. The bootloops are because of a new kernel he is trying. Don't worry he'll have it figured out soon enough. Anyways my favorite of all favorites has to be MIUI 1.4.29. I love the UI, it's fast, and by far the best battery life of any ROM I've tried.

fifedogg said:
Have you tried Shift Deck with x99. It runs awesome, even better than the nightlies. My Quadrant went from 3380 to 3900 switching to Shift Deck. All my other benchmarks went up aswell.
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Haven't tried it yet tho I'm meaning to. Does it have theme chooser?
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Dread 7us said:
Haven't tried it yet tho I'm meaning to. Does it have theme chooser?
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Yeah, it has theme chooser. Just started running this ROM again yesterday and its pretty dang smooth.
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Before the release of a stable AOSP ROM, the best battery life for me was AwesomeRom using a 1.8g bfq test kernel. I can't remember who the dev was since its been a while, but I believe it was Bcnice20. The ROM & kernel combo made my phone pretty snappy while also giving me like 14-16 hrs of battery life through heavy use.
On AOSP, my favorite ROM has to be Kush-Deck 1.2t so far. I just flashed Scary's Stable Kernel v2 last night. I have min at 245MHz, max at 1209MHz, and the governor set to "Smartass". I'm hoping those settings will give me the best experience in terms of performance, stability, & battery life.
I had been rawkin' an older version of Deck's ROM with the stock Kernel for a bit but after a while my battery life started going down hill. Before that i had been on different versions of CM7 for a while since RC 1 but battery life was even worse on those.
I've been pretty stoked on Deck so far and think I'll prolly keep rawkin this for a while. Especially since everything seems to be working well for me including GPS, Wi-Fi, 4G, etc.
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I also use deck's rom with the newest x99 kernel. Miui is also nice, but I always find myself flashing back to an aosp rom after a day or so.

Survey roms

who is the best rom for you ?
For that speed , custom interface,options,battery , whatever

I like the good one with the nice battery and the fast kernel.
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I was gone for about a month once the entire time just using MIUI, very stable ROM with a great kernel
My daily driver now is MikG though...battery life is ok...but the UI on the lock screen from sense 3.0 is perfect for me.

Running MikG 1.03 here. Seems solid so far, loving the Metal skin and the various sense 3.0 touches. Would be nice to be able to overclock it a bit, but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. I'm fine with waiting for the kernel source and however long it takes people to build an overclockable kernel.

EOD v2 by Mag, using Savage Zen 2.1 cfs kernel has no problem going 24+ hours on a single charge. Everything works flawlessly from camera to gps.
"Hell I don't know anymore"

selders59 said:
EOD v2 by Mag, using Savage Zen 2.1 cfs kernel has no problem going 24+ hours on a single charge. Everything works flawlessly from camera to gps.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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So he got the 4g working on v2 I didn't know might have to check that out.
I'm also on mikg.
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Best rom for battery life?

Right now I'm using ultimate droid latest untill that project crashed and burned, and the battery lasts forever on 100% but after that its like a slow leak.. any other roms for great battery life that is Gingerbread? I don't want any launcherpro roms or adw roms those annoy me
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turphed said:
Right now I'm using ultimate droid latest untill that project crashed and burned, and the battery lasts forever on 100% but after that its like a slow leak.. any other roms for great battery life that is Gingerbread? I don't want any launcherpro roms or adw roms those annoy me
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You mean you want a Rom with the stock aosp launcher. I recommend trying virtuous G-Lite. Read the instructions in the OP, for info on how to get the stock launcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076786
G-Lite has the best battery life of any Rom I have ever tested.
And are you aware that you don't need to stick with the launcher that comes with a Rom? You can install which ever is your favourite and uninstall the one that comes included with the Rom.
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Stock Rom for sense and virtuous G-Lite for asop

Once again I reccomend meXdroidMod PreGhostChilli. It is a very fast asop build that has waydownsouth's tweaKr script built into it. So as long as you use the included kernel you can set profiles for your processor via tweaKr script that react MUCH faster than any app (like setCPU). You can also undervolt your processor, tweak your i/o, and install the smart cpu script; all of those things will do wonders for battery life. I can squeeze an entire day of HEAVY usage out of my phone, and nearly two days of moderate to light usage (and I have an almost bad battery), just be sure and take the time to properly calibrate your battery after flashing the rom.
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Okay, so suppose I wanted a rom exactly like this one any ideas because I live gingerbread yet I'm not a fan of sense
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AOSP: Virtuous G-Lite hands down, it's a 2.3.3 version that is very stable. Comes with LauncherPRO and is as stock as you can be. No lag anywhere and can be overclocked as well with the included kernel, though, now i think RMK and team included a script that automatically overclocks up to 1.2GHz for you by default. About 1 day of heavy use on a charge, just less than 2 days of light use on a charge.
Other: MIUI Official English, it's a 2.3.4 version that is incredibly stable with the CRT screen off animation. Alittle weird to use at first, but it's really easy to pick up on. Overclockable to 1.5GHz using CPUTuner or SetCPU. Lasts about 3 days of light use on a charge. About 1.5 days of heavy use on a charge.

You should try Virtours G-lite, best of any ROM I have used. 1 thing is more Free RAM to play ^^

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You should try Virtours G-lite, best of any ROM I have used. 1 thing is more Free RAM to play ^^
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can you use theme chooser with the g-lite rom?

crevis24 said:
can you use theme chooser with the g-lite rom?
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No you can't, but you can use UOT kitchen.
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i cant speak for virtuous but ive had great luck with mexdroidmod...namely because of tweaKr. full day of heavy use.....and im talkin heavy
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Can Virtuous G-lite handle any apps you throw at it? (e.g. Angry Birds/Cut The Rope/Robot Unicorn Attack?)
Or does it sacrifice performance for battery life?

Hahutzy said:
Can Virtuous G-lite handle any apps you throw at it? (e.g. Angry Birds/Cut The Rope/Robot Unicorn Attack?)
Or does it sacrifice performance for battery life?
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Performance is perfect, there is plenty of free ram, so even the most intensive games will run perfectly.
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Where Can I get it?
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casron said:
Where Can I get it?
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The Dev sub forum
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G2 Slim Or Virtuous G-lite

I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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masterleron said:
I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)

prairie-dad said:
I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)
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I second this, for ICS either elitemod or Andromadus mimicry. Apex launcher.
Though for gingerbread, I'd say elitemod CM7 or g2slim.
Also for an even faster and lighter launcher there is lightning launcher.
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prairie-dad said:
I know I've seen your name in the forums before, but forget what you're using now. Have you tried either of the EliteMod versions (one CM7, one ICS?) I'm using the latter now and very happy with it for speed, battery and UI (Apex launcher.)
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Yeash, I must ask a lot of questions then, lol. I am currently on Gen. Y Vision B5. However I have found it very slow and buggy. I have also tried Andromadus Mimicry. It was the best i'd seen, but I wanted something which had better battery life.
Will have a look at EliteMod Now.
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ILWT for me...

MIUI
Better battery life + Good Look = its definitely MIUI
from my experience MIUI has the best battery life.. abt 2 hours of music, txting, wifi, browsing and total of 30min calling, yet i always come home above 30%

Dryize said:
Better battery life + Good Look = its definitely MIUI
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I know that I've asked this before but does these ROMs set the phone's CPU to a default speed? Or do you do that yourself by using something like the SetCPU app?
I'm in the process of rooting my phone and will be looking at GB ROMs such as MIUI, ILWT and CM7.

GrievousMcG said:
I know that I've asked this before but does these ROMs set the phone's CPU to a default speed? Or do you do that yourself by using something like the SetCPU app?
I'm in the process of rooting my phone and will be looking at GB ROMs such as MIUI, ILWT and CM7.
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MIUI doesn't have a built in feature to set CPU speeds. But most other CM based roms does have such option built in. Look for something like Performance->CPU in settings. There you can set a CPU governor too

I thought MIUI was discontinued for our devices?

It is confusing because of the several Miui sites. But that is the impression I get, too. I just spent a certain amount of time looking, and failed to come up with anything current.
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Yes they discontinued support for the vision after gingerbread. Anything found that is android 4.0 or higher will be ports, not to say they will be good or bad but they won't be specific to our phones
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kbeezie said:
I thought MIUI was discontinued for our devices?
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Yes it is... But it is stable and it has every feature needed. I have used MIUI without restarting for more than a week. No glitches though. But sure can use extra stuff like miui_bulletproof_pack, though Im not using it.
Its a stable rom + with super cool look + good performance and good battery life. What else do we need

masterleron said:
I was just wondering which one is better for speed, battery life and their UI's. I have given up on the Sense roms, too slow and buggy.
Thanks
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I've tried both and performance and stability wise I'd go with glite not that slim isn't good
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Tried G-Lite, however it had some simple bugs such as the screen timeout not working. .
Back to Mimicry.
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masterleron said:
Tried G-Lite, however it had some simple bugs such as the screen timeout not working. .
Back to Mimicry.
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G-light hands down its fast stable gives you the option of choosing kernels before flashing (conservative HTC kernel or full featured kernel capable of 1.4ghz Oc) . As for issues their ain't none I've been using g-light since it came to play . The screen issue must of been a bad flash
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