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I just upgraded from a G1 to the Vibrant and I gotta say, I'm not impressed with the iphone like UI. Is there a way to install the stock android UI on the Vibrant?
I don't like it either. Give launcherpro a try...
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LauncherPro (what I'm using) or ADW will get rid of *some* of the iPhone-ish Touchwiz UI -- but not all of it. The drawer is much improved, but it leaves some of the decent Touchwiz features -- like the pull down capability to switch wi-fi, bluetooth, gps, etc.. Pretty cool, actually.
Give 'em a try.
I think the Touch Wiz UI improves on and polishes the Android UI quite as bit. I will say I'm not a fan of the app drawer nor do I like any of Samsung's included widgets. I do love what they did with the contacts menu. I think the whole swyping right to call or swyping left to text a contact is genius and original. Samsung also made it easier to navigate through the contacts. I also find the WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth and silent toggles built in to the notification bar come in handy quite a bit.
I could go on but I need to get to bed.
If you can get past the visuals in TW it really isn't a bad UI.
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I personally have no problem with it aside from the supposed performance issues and prefer it to the stock android user interface and some other custom android IU implemented by other companies.
Positives:
App drawer scrolls horizontally, which seems more natural to me(like turning a page in a book).
Wi-fi, bluetooth, GPS, and Vibrate controls integrated into the notification bar removing the need of the power control widget
Music App appearing notification area when screen saver is up removing the need to unlock the phone to switch songs
I still use launcher pro, though
Are you aware of the fact that the Launcher is NOT the only aspect of TouchWiz UI? Nope.. Stock Android is fugly.
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Are you aware of the fact that the Launcher is NOT the only aspect of TouchWiz UI? Nope.. Stock Android is fugly.
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Agreed, give another vote for TW from me. I always hated vanilla Android, on my G1 I used to change themes daily cause of it. I used LP for a bit but went back to TW. I Use that pull down toggle way too much.
TouchWiz actually had me against getting this phone before it came out. The whole "iphone-looking" app drawer icons was a huge disappointment. But being a big ADW supporter (and knowing this phone would have plenty of development behind it), I checked it out on launch day and walked out of the store with it.
Granted, I installed ADW before even paying for the phone. Plus side...the power and music controls are still there. I'd definitely give TW a thumbs up (minus the app drawer icons).
LauncherPro (my choice) and ADW are the best of both worlds. You get some of the more polished TW apps and skins, but no BS iPhone clone homescreen.
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The fact that the only thing people can complain about it is that it looks too much like an iPhone means to me that it's a pretty solid interface.
I love it in any case.
People need to get over their iPhone to Android superiority complex.
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Are you aware of the fact that the Launcher is NOT the only aspect of TouchWiz UI? Nope.. Stock Android is fugly.
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Well, to be fair, 2.2 android looks good, but when compared to touchcwiz, doesn't even compare. even on my nexus, I always run skins.
Anyway, I personally like the way vibrant looks.
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I personally don't care for appearances, I prefer having the latest features and newest versions of Android. I care more about the features that is included rather than how it looks because honestly.. skinning isn't that difficult but waiting for these manufacturers to port their custom skins take too long. Skinning is just so simple in Android with metamorphing, alternative launchers etc.
Take a look at Nexus One, it already has Android 2.2 while other phones have to wait so much longer. Or even Motorola Droid, they're supposedly getting 2.2 this week and running vanilla Android. I rather have the latest and skin it on my own. This of course will definitely all change when CM6 is released for the Vibrant.
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Are you aware of the fact that the Launcher is NOT the only aspect of TouchWiz UI? Nope.. Stock Android is fugly.
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Yeppers. Big Android fan but the default Android UI is like the default UI on a Linux system, plain and boring.
Love ADW but need to port the TW widgets over, or at least install some of the stock widgets. One of these days...
For the moment I don't set a default for either and just select whichever one I need when I press home. I know it's an extra button to press but I like the option.
TW would be great if there was a way to customize things more. Like getting rid of the horizontal app drawer and changing the default home screen when the numbers of screens are changed.
I read on another post that LauncherPro might be causing a little extra battery drain. I just switched from LP to ADW to see if I can notice a difference.
The samsung video app is so much better. I had to use DoubleTwist to convert every movie I put on my myTouch but with my Vibrant almost every file I've tried works. The contacts app is nice but a little buggy for me sometimes.
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badaphooko01 said:
Agreed, give another vote for TW from me. I always hated vanilla Android, on my G1 I used to change themes daily cause of it. I used LP for a bit but went back to TW. I Use that pull down toggle way too much.
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That pulldown toggle is still there when you switch to launcherpro or adw.
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I can't stand the ugly blue tabs they put on all their apps. They look like the 80s vision of 'futuristic' (and they're way too big). Also, they hid a lot of features of the stock google apps -- for instance, you can't set your alarm ringtone in calendar.
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I have the paid version, so I like the widgets. But LP just always felt a little more well done IMO. Not that ADW is bad, it just felt a little sloppy despite all the features it had.
If u dont pay then they r equal...u can resize widgets in adw for free
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Lp seems faster and smoother, plus the widgets, can't beat it
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Lp seems faster and smoother, plus the widgets, can't beat it
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Ok.. I cant pay tho
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ADW seems slow as HELL. Launcher Pro is snappy, and I like the 3D drawer.
Who knows. I tried ADW before LP and immediately developed a distaste for it. Tried LauncherPro later on and immediately fell in love.
LauncherPro has better customization.. unless adw has implemented more since I last used it..
Being able to set your own dock background and icons is nice instead of having to chose a theme.
And LP is a lot smoother. There are settings around here to make adw smoother, but LP still feels better.
And one more reason for me, I like the 3d app drawer.
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i like LP too... tried ADW..
have not seen the 3D draw yet.. or you talking about the transition????
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i like LP too... tried ADW..
have not seen the 3D draw yet.. or you talking about the transition????
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3d app drawer is in LP
Dan330 said:
i like LP too... tried ADW..
have not seen the 3D draw yet.. or you talking about the transition????
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Menu - Preferences - Advanced Settings - Use 3D drawer.
It's awesome.
Launcher pro is 20x smoother, ADW is REALLY choppy. No clue why.
I used ADW for a couple of months and really liked it, but LP is much faster. Some of the new benefits I'm enjoying with LP are faster home screen rotation, smoother scrolling and animations when opening and closing apps from the home screen.
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I use LP just for the ease of customizability that ADW just doesnt seem to have
I use LP for the same reasons most people do. It's smoother than ADW out of the box. While on that subject, there are ways to set ADW to smoother operation but I don't want to fiddle with things out of the box to make them work.
I also prefer the 3 dock style of LP, it gives more options over ADW's slide up dock. Personal preference but the more quick launch options I have at my finger tips, the less messy my screens are. I prefer minimalistic setups.
The widget development by Fede is great. I don't make a lot of use of widgets personally but his work to make functional, good looking widgets is worth the few bucks for the program.
And I follow both devs on twitter and to be honest, the ADW dev seems a bit off. He's said a enough things about how hackish his program is or how he doesn't know what he's doing to make me wonder why I should use it.
Oh and the LP dev is working on a full rewrite to make his launcher more stable, faster, and expandable. I'm very excited for that product when it comes out.
i tried LauncherPro and completely fell in love with it. it does everything i need it to, it does it well and while looking nice.
why even try ADW at that point?
I tried both and switched between them every few days for a few weeks just to get a real feel for both of them. I really like LP much better than ADW. LP seems better for customizing to each individuals preferences and it seems faster and smoother. LP makes everyday use with my Evo so much easier and much more enjoyable...
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Menu - Preferences - Advanced Settings - Use 3D drawer.
It's awesome.
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hey thanks...
it is interesting...
I like it for the multiple docks, and the dock swipe actions.
I love Lp, so much better than ADW, I tried both for about a week & was more comfortable with Laucher Pro because its easier to customize, i like the dock that you can put apps where you want them, plus the additional swipe actions, love the 3D draw, all my friends say its so cool. And now the widgets that he has added are even beter. Plus a complete rewrite comoing soon, so he can better customize it with our ideas we give him.
What's everyone using and why? I ran launcher pro free before I rooted long ago. After that I switched to adw ex, I love adw! The options for screen transitions are awesome, seems to be very fast and light. Recently ive been trying aosp launcher, which I just can't seem to fall in love with, doesn't seem like there is any options for customization, mainly for the dock, as I don't like having the browser on my dock. What other options are there? I don't really remember what launcher pro was like, thinking about buying it to try it out. Whose still using touch wiz?
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I'm using Launcher Pro, I was using touch wiz untill I discovered that you could change the dock with LP... that's what sold me really. Cosmetics lol. Another feature I like is being able to hide apps in the listing.. it's nice if your using the bloated froyo, like I am at the moment, and don't want to go through and uninstall everything.
I was loving adw ex as well ... then launcher pro added the screen transitions in its last release. I REALLY like the Widgets it comes with . And you can download a modded version on xda that changes the look of them making them much more attractive.
I still have adw ex installed. But probably won't go back unless it adds something new. I just find launcher pro to be smoother. And being able to make your own dock really makes it your own.
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I'm still rocking the TouchWiz. I've tried out several of the others, but I just can't stand the vertically scrolling list (it makes it much harder to find anything IMO). I just hugely prefer the horizontal pages (a la iOS). The homescreens themselves I really don't have much of a preference about, they're all fairly similar in how I use them (basically just the Google News & Weather widget at the top, Android 2.3 music player control under that, then browser/gmail/camera/battery widget under that, and FB + LED Torch widget on the bottom right (with 2 empty spots). I switch around applications too frequently to really be able to have a list of apps that I use a lot that wouldn't really end up being most of my apps.
Every time I try something else out, I keep coming back to LauncherPro Plus -- in no small part due to the absolutely awesome widgets.
ADW used to run a little quicker than LP, but ADW seems to have gotten slower over time as more features were added. ADW EX was supposed to be a big improvement, but I don't think it actually is (and it's more confusing to use).
At this point, the only thing ADW (both regular and EX) has that LP doesn't is the TouchWiz homescreen re-sorting interface. That doesn't bother me at all, though, as once my homescreens are set up they stay that way.
And, the LP developer is working on a complete, from-scratch re-coding (all the current launchers are based on Google's launcher code with modifications and stuff added on, so there's only so much they can do to them) that's supposed to be dramatically speedier and more flexible... so I don't see myself switching to ADW or any other launcher in the near future.
Launcher Pro <3
I bought the plus version but mostly as a way to support the developer. I don't even bother unlocking it half the time
ADW is nice, too, I just prefer LP. Either is worlds better than TWiz. The latest version of LP adds several transition options, and a major rewrite of the whole thing based on newer code is in the works (at least that's my understanding)
Launcher Pro is my favorite so far. I tried ADW but like being able to side scroll and have transparent shortcuts on my homescreen. The only thing I dont like is that I'm not able access ALL widgets on my phone. I kinda liked the buddies now rolodex. Maybe its user error on my part. Does anyone know about accessing all widgets with LP?
I think I answered my own question about other widgets, in the launcherpro forums is says that some of those TWiz widgets do not and will not work, guess I need to get the donate version. Why not, I love the app.
LP, but people on DL30 might want to try out TouchwizGTG, a modded replacement for Samsung stock. It should let you use all the TW widgets.
I bought launcher pro plus, I like it alright, id be in love if I could do transparent drawer
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And if I could make a swype down gesture open the notification panel
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I'm on Launcher Pro with DL30. Running it for a few days and like it over touchwiz. Before updating to Froyo I was using Go Launcher on DL09 and that one was decent too.
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Go Launcher
Try Go Launcher
I found out about this a little while ago and Its awesome. Its like a little of everything with the best parts of everything.
I tried Go Launcher briefly, but went back to Launcher Pro. Why? Well, the ADW-like features made it tempting, but I immediately missed the widgets. I found some third party ones that are essentially a ripoff of the Launcher Pro ones, but they clearly inferior. Also, screen transitions were much rougher, and its method for adding app icons to homescreens is not very user friendly. There were pluses as well, but overall, Launcher Pro feels much more polished, so I'm sticking with it. I have not tried ADW Ex yet, and it looks enticing, but I'm back to no LP widgets again. I'm content to keep using LP, knowing that a major rewrite is on the way with lots of new features.
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Launcher Pro Plus calendar widget... done
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The calender widget is awesome, screen transitions seem smoother as well. Can't wait for a transparent drawer, and maybe some more transitions.
I like having just one home screen, and a simple app drawer, that way it's easy to find everything. So for me it's Launcher Pro.
If u havent tried it, go get it! The best. Grab it in the market for free.
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Go sms pro is pretty phat too.
I think it's hands down the best launcher out there. The Honeycomb theme is awesome with it.
Very nice!
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I loved the launcher, but ended up trying out others for a second time when they were already bundled with ROMs. Also, as far as I know, GO Launcher EX doesn't allow for higher grid settings on homescreens, which is absolutely essential to my current setup. If this has changed, I will surely go back, as I loved how smooth it was and how much customization there was elsewhere in it!
Also, I second GO SMS Pro (was just GO SMS, just added features in Pro, like the long-awaited, at least for me, support to check drafts! and is still free).
They update a lot, and not in a bad way. They're usually adding more and more features. Ever since I found out about the GO Dev Team when actually looking to use Handcent or Chomp SMS, I've loved 'em.
I just hate using free launchers cause I have ones I paid for. :-/
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I just hate using free launchers cause I have ones I paid for. :-/
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That's kind of how I feel, too.
Go Launcher EX is the business. I think so many people are loyal to ADW and Launcher Pro though(why, I can't figure out). I'll bet you that most folks who have tried all three will tell you that Go Launcher EX is superior. The fact that it's free alone sets it apart. And the regular updates are a nice plus too... If you haven't tried it I suggest you do. Then come back here and give an honest opinion of it.
I tried it but can't remember what it was that turned me away. I admit, it has been a little bit so I'm sure it's better.
Does it have it's own widgets. gesture swipes, resizable widget option, able to change app icons on your homescreens, ability to choose any dock you want? These are some of the things I love on ADW ex/ LPP.
It may very well have some of these things now, it has been a bit. I'm on a Sense kick right now, but I'll give it another look.
I love go launcher but I need to reload the icons when I come out of the browser our youtube.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying go launcher is superior that's a little much eh? Its good but its not great. I've used almost every launcher out there for more than a weeks at a time each and I always come back to adwEX.
I'm interested to see what this complete rewrite of Launcher Pro...whenever it happens....will bring to the table.
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I loved the launcher, but ended up trying out others for a second time when they were already bundled with ROMs. Also, as far as I know, GO Launcher EX doesn't allow for higher grid settings on homescreens, which is absolutely essential to my current setup. If this has changed, I will surely go back, as I loved how smooth it was and how much customization there was elsewhere in it!
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I tried it but can't remember what it was that turned me away. I admit, it has been a little bit so I'm sure it's better.
Does it have it's own widgets. gesture swipes, resizable widget option, able to change app icons on your homescreens, ability to choose any dock you want? These are some of the things I love on ADW ex/ LPP.
It may very well have some of these things now, it has been a bit. I'm on a Sense kick right now, but I'll give it another look.
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The answer is YES to all of your inquiries, execpt for the 1st one(it's own widgets).. Atleast, I dont think it has it's own widgets, but it has so many add-ons, so there might be one. But YES, it has gesture swipes, you can resize the widgets, app icons can be changed on the desktop and in the dock, you can change your dock, the dock is scrollable and supports up to 15 apps, etc...
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I wouldn't go as far as saying go launcher is superior that's a little much eh? Its good but its not great. I've used almost every launcher out there for more than a weeks at a time each and I always come back to adwEX.
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The main reason I called it superior is because it's FREE.. and the other two that are comparable are not(ADW EX and LP+). Of course once you put price aside, the opinions are gonna vary as to which launcher is better. To me the 3 are very comparable though.
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I'm interested to see what this complete rewrite of Launcher Pro...whenever it happens....will bring to the table.
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Same here. I'm a LP user 100% of the way. ADW has a lot of flash but poorly designed, Go Launcher is actually okay but performance isn't all that great. LP is very well designed and very fast. Can't wait for the rewrite.
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I just hate using free launchers cause I have ones I paid for. :-/
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Yeah I'd hate to not use ADW EX simply because I paid like $3 for it
Only thing that's pissing me off is adwEX hasn't been updated since beginning of January. I hope anderwebs is cooking up some hot features, buts I've purchased adwex, launcher pro plus, and launcher 7. I like to switch back and forth. Go launcher being free simply doesn't make it superior; what's 3 bucks when you can buy 2 launchers for the price of one Burger king combo lol. I bought them to try them all and go launcher simply isn't that impressive. You need to try some paid launchers man I bet you won't find yourself saying that anymore.
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They added the feature but the max is 5x5, combine that with the fact it does not support shuttered dpi and I have to say LPP is still my favorite.
It's cool and neat but far from owning the competition at this point.
I have Launcher Pro plus, ADW Ex. I've always liked ADW Ex better because -
- lockable screens. Can't tell you how many times I've accidentally moved stuff or even dropped and deleted (or had a friend do that while looking at my phone)
- performance especially with the homescreen transitions
- easily edit and resize icons/shortcuts
- I have Pure calendar and Beautiful weather widgets, so I don't really miss LP widgets.
- got tired of waiting for the "re-write" (not a criticism - I just itch for new stuff)
Go Launcher
Pros
- Matches everything ADW Ex does
- Unread Notifications even on the dock (not on ADW, even with notifier)
- Much easier to manipulate entire screens
- discovered go sms - it's gorgeous!
Cons
- Haven't seen a "lock" feature yet. Need to explore.
- Performance doesn't have the same "snap" to it as ADW Ex, but I need to explore and tweak that a little more
Pretty pleased with Go Launcher Ex so far, I'll use it for a while and check.
If there is a thread for this, I'm sorry in advance...... what launcher does everyone use on their dx? I'm using lpp but I put go launcher on my gfs optimus and its pretty sweet.... I'm just hesitant to switch to go launcher cuz i've spent so much time using lpp.... with all these launchers out now (lpp, adw, regina, zeam, go launcher, spb) what's everyone using?
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I used LPP for a long time but recently switched to Launcher 7. I've also used ADW, ADW EX, Go Launcher, etc. I've enjoyed LPP and 7 the most so far.
I've been happily using LauncherPro Plus for a long time.
I've used other launchers such as Go Launcher Ex, ADE Ex, and Launcher 7, and they're all work exceptionally but LauncherPro is always the best for me, and I don't see why I should fix what's not broken.
One day I may go back and try other launchers and decide on a different one, but for now I'm staying with LauncherPro.
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I switch between launcher 7 and adw ex
Nothing is as fast, or uses UI caching as well as, LauncherPro. I keep going back to it even though I've tried like, every other launcher in existence, lol. I'd love it if LPP had more options, Go Launcher Ex has a ton of awesome extra stuff but I don't use it because it's just not as snappy.
Google REALLY needs to build hardware GUI acceleration + caching into the core of Android. It is becoming a hindrance to the growth of the operating system. Plenty of people still pick the iPhone just because the UI feels silky smooth, and there's no reason Android can't natively have that.
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Nothing is as fast, or uses UI caching as well as, LauncherPro. I keep going back to it even though I've tried like, every other launcher in existence, lol. I'd love it if LPP had more options, Go Launcher Ex has a ton of awesome extra stuff but I don't use it because it's just not as snappy.
Google REALLY needs to build hardware GUI acceleration + caching into the core of Android. It is becoming a hindrance to the growth of the operating system. Plenty of people still pick the iPhone just because the UI feels silky smooth, and there's no reason Android can't natively have that.
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I hope that once the dev is finished doing the rewrite of LauncherPro that he will incorporate more features and options. Plus, after the rewrite it will probably be speedier and snappier (hopefully).
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Launcher Pro, hands down best launcher. Fast, clean, and most importantly snappy.
Yeah, I do hope the rewrite for lp is good, it is taking him quite a bit of time to do it so hopefully its worth the wait...
Used go launcher for a lil bit last night, was back on lpp in an hour
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I hope you all have purchased LPP! I have even though I still use none of the paid features, lol. He deserves it.
Launcher Pro is the best.
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I used Launcher Pro for a long time, then they came out with an update that seemed to "brick" mine and my wife's phone and helped push her over the edge to going back to an iPhone. Ever since then I've been using ADW and have been very happy with the results.
I've been using LP for a couple of months and love it. I downloaded ADW a couple of weeks ago, but didn't realize it's not easy to switch back and forth, even with Homeswitcher. Tonight, I decided to play around with ADW, so I cleared the preference and switched over. I have to say that LP is WAY better than ADW except for the thousands of themes available for ADW. Does anyone know if I can use the ADW icon theme packs with LP? I found some really awesome free themes tonight that I want to use with LP. ColorWarp ADW, Eyefold, Fluxed ADW Theme, Crack, Shag, and y0rk's green and black ADW themes are all really beautiful. I like LP because you can do much more with it like change the docks with custom docks, have 3 pages of docks, and use custom widget themes. If I could use the ADW icon theme packs with LP, I would be in HEAVEN! lol. Would it work???
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I've been using LP for a couple of months and love it. I downloaded ADW a couple of weeks ago, but didn't realize it's not easy to switch back and forth, even with Homeswitcher. Tonight, I decided to play around with ADW, so I cleared the preference and switched over. I have to say that LP is WAY better than ADW except for the thousands of themes available for ADW. Does anyone know if I can use the ADW icon theme packs with LP? I found some really awesome free themes tonight that I want to use with LP. ColorWarp ADW, Eyefold, Fluxed ADW Theme, Crack, Shag, and y0rk's green and black ADW themes are all really beautiful. I like LP because you can do much more with it like change the docks with custom docks, have 3 pages of docks, and use custom widget themes. If I could use the ADW icon theme packs with LP, I would be in HEAVEN! lol. Would it work???
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why yes i believe you can >> http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/1...erpro-beta-includes-app-drawer-icon-skinning/
Is anyone else running LPP with the leaked 5.88 having tons of forceclose issues? I LOVE LPP but when i try to show off it makes my DX look like a clunky P.O.S. - not cool!
Really?when I had the .588 leak it worked fine?? I've moved up to the .596 now and its buttery smooth.
swyped with one thumb on my DX.
I use adw ex and I love it. So much customization.
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why yes i believe you can >> http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/1...erpro-beta-includes-app-drawer-icon-skinning/
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I started using Open Home 6, and it's WAY better than any of them! It's the only app I've found that lets you take screen shots without rooting. Plus, it lets you customize each icon and all of the fonts for everything..
What's the fastest launcher? And most customizable launcher
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What's the fastest launcher? And most customizable launcher
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I'd say Open Home 6. It's way faster than ADW and super customizable. You can customize fonts and individual icons
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I started using Open Home 6, and it's WAY better than any of them! It's the only app I've found that lets you take screen shots without rooting. Plus, it lets you customize each icon and all of the fonts for everything..
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Only good thing about open home 6 is the screen shot is built in, but it transitions to slow
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