OK, here is my story. I got my first Galaxy S one Month ago, I Lagfixed the phone and ran JM8, one day, it suddenly show strange error message, after reboot, it wouldn't boot (stuck in Black screen after S). I tried every possible way (including flash with/without repartition). It turned out the Internal Sdcard wouldn't mount, and was corrupted. Since I bought it was second hand, It can't be repair through warranty. Later I found it is easy to change motherboard, so I bought a SECOND Galaxy S with broken screen. I switched the motherboard myself, and my first Galaxy S working again since 7 days ago. This time, I keep phone in pure original stock ROM, only install 6 applications. Last night same problem happens, the phone start to show unusual lag, after reboot, wouldn't pass Black screen again. In recovery mode, show couldn't mount SDCard. Tried flash with repartition, still same problem. Look like the Internal SDcard corrupted again. By the way, both phone I had Developer Mode turn on.
Extremely disappointed with Samsung Galaxy S. and I am not alone. Samsung should recall its Galaxy S due to Internal SDCARD issue
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Never heard that one before, and i doubt it is a general case so you can claim a "call back" for all devices.
I think that's a unique error that has happened to you.
You can't just say they should recall the whole line of Galaxy S phones.
Go and buy a new phone, the problem started when you bought it second hand.. do you think there was a reason the original owner sold it?
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i would first check very close what are my installed apps, and any other possible things before that claim, since you are the only one with that error.
Google Search "galaxy s bricked" result "About 343,000 results (0.07 seconds)"
Google Search "htc desire bricked" result "About 56,500 results (0.14 seconds)"
the result tell its all. I don't think I am unique. No matter what application I install (especially the second phone I have, I didn't root the phone or flash the phone). It should not have bricked in a regular/heavy use. Second hand wasn't a problem. motherboard was like new, and phone was working perfectly for 1 week each during my ownership.
desire bricked
About 79,800 results (0.17 seconds)
Samsung galaxy s bricked
About 82,200 results (0.27 seconds)
Roughly the same ;p
And of course, most of those "bricks" are not even a bricks, they are "download mode" mostly..
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+s+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"Samsung galaxy s bricked" About 306,000 results (0.17 seconds)
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+d+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"htc desire bricked" About 56,500 results (0.22 seconds)
I don't know how you get your #
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http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+s+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"Samsung galaxy s bricked" About 306,000 results (0.17 seconds)
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+d+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"htc desire bricked" About 56,500 results (0.22 seconds)
I don't know how you get your #
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Have you read all the 300,000 plus posts to see how many are due to corrupt SD cards? Probably a handful and 99% of the rest are from bad flashing of custom or leaked ROMs I would bet.
I doubt I am in that kind of bad luck, both of my Galaxy S bricked due to Internal Sdcard problem. Only difference I could see compare to regular user is I am android developer, and I always have Developer Mode turn on. These two phones were used install/uninstall/run application in debug mode. but again, all these are regular use as what phone intent to.
My last results were from PL site.
Yours were from CA site.
Now .com (international) ones:
samsung galaxy s bricked - About 309,000 results (0.26 seconds)
htc desire bricked - About 378,000 results (0.19 seconds)
Moar on the desire.
Now considering there are more than 5 million sold 120 results here puts it in perspective. (and not all of these are the internal SD some are external).
Click here:> http://lmgtfy.com/?q="galaxy+s"+"corrupt+sd+card"
First of, you can google anything with "Galaxy S", it will get mor hit on google since the device was sold more than Desire...putting this as a arguement is totally biaised and what we call a "sophism"
second, even if Samsung would recall the device, you bought it second hand. You then traded the "waranty" and return for a lower price. You would'nt be able to get either a refund or a recall on it, as samsung does servicing trough the reseller (in canada, at least)
And having the same issue two times in a row, you're either pretty unlucky or had an external cause that made it... (USB drivers, for instance)
Tehpriest nice link xD
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http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+s+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"Samsung galaxy s bricked" About 306,000 results (0.17 seconds)
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&expIds=...+d+bricked&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=5845ba0146677720
"htc desire bricked" About 56,500 results (0.22 seconds)
I don't know how you get your #
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Sorry, but.
If you look at all search results for each phone, you'll see that there are simply far more pages for the Galaxy S than there are for the Desire.
http://www.google.co.za/search?q=ga...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
146 million results
http://www.google.co.za/search?q=ht...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
13 million results.
So, the phone with 1/10 of the total number of sites, has 1/6 of the results for "bricked"
Hmm, using your "logic", the Galaxy has about a 40% less chance of being bricked than a desire.
I googled "Galaxy S banana" and i got About 1,020,000 results (0.21 seconds)
Is my Galaxy S a banana?
This issue you're having seems to to be quite rare and specific to you, I'm sure you can find a solution to it somewhere, but just because it affects you, doesn't mean it affects the majority.
Once I've got the same error when I unplugged the phone from Mass Storage mode. Galaxy said : Internal and External SD corrupted.
Restarting the phone fixed the problem.
Buggy, buggy
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I googled "Galaxy S banana" and i got About 1,020,000 results (0.21 seconds)
Is my Galaxy S a banana?
This issue you're having seems to to be quite rare and specific to you, I'm sure you can find a solution to it somewhere, but just because it affects you, doesn't mean it affects the majority.
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Spot on. What a ridiculous way to quantify this problem.
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Even tho da galaxy s may have its share of problems, its still a great fone. And a lot of da said problems turn up as user initiated errors.
Da fone is great. :-D
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Most "bricks" aren't permanent anyway. And there are plenty of people without the SD issue. Unless they isolate faulty units to a specific bunch of serial numbers, they'd be recalling a lot of working units accidentally.
Besides, it isn't so easy to recall millions of units simultaneously, because they flood service centres at once, and people who sent their phone in would take ages to get it back. That, and the unit is still under warranty anyway...
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I googled "Galaxy S banana" and i got About 1,020,000 results (0.21 seconds)
Is my Galaxy S a banana?
This issue you're having seems to to be quite rare and specific to you, I'm sure you can find a solution to it somewhere, but just because it affects you, doesn't mean it affects the majority.
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hahahaha nice one
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OK, OK, I know the "issues" folks are having with the HD have been done to death, but I just wanted to add my two penneth to the mix.
My story is unremarkable in that I've bought a HD last week as a replacement for a Kaiser (which went pop and is with HTC for repair as I type), and despite all the glitz and snazz of the huge screen, the slim form, etc, I'm rather missing my 18 month old Kaiser.
The lack of a physical keyboard is the biggest thing I'm struggling to adjust to, which might not be so bad if the software one worked properly. And the number of times the device restarts itself at the most inopportune moment would be frankly laughable if it werent so annoying.
So, I called the retailer and told them of the problems with it restarting itself (8 times yesterday - when texting, when prowsing the web, when reading a Word doc attachment, and numerous times when doing sod all but sitting on my desk!), and they offered to exchange it for me....... except they havent got any in stock!
So, to the crux of my post.... do I insist that the device is not fit for purpose and demand that my deal and airtime agreement is cancelled (I've not put the supplied SIM card in yet so I'm within my rights to cancel, it seems), and wait it out for a Touch Pro2? Or am I just a swapped handset away from Touch HD nirvana?
Your opinions and advice would be greatly appreciated!
All I can say is you may have a dodgy device as mine has never reset itself in the way you describe...
And you can get used to the on-screen keyboard (well I did anyway) pretty fast.. have a play with the different keyboard options. I use the "phone keypad" in T9 mode and am much faster than with the full Qwerty one.
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OK, OK, I know the "issues" folks are having with the HD have been done to death, but I just wanted to add my two penneth to the mix.
My story is unremarkable in that I've bought a HD last week as a replacement for a Kaiser (which went pop and is with HTC for repair as I type), and despite all the glitz and snazz of the huge screen, the slim form, etc, I'm rather missing my 18 month old Kaiser.
The lack of a physical keyboard is the biggest thing I'm struggling to adjust to, which might not be so bad if the software one worked properly. And the number of times the device restarts itself at the most inopportune moment would be frankly laughable if it werent so annoying.
So, I called the retailer and told them of the problems with it restarting itself (8 times yesterday - when texting, when prowsing the web, when reading a Word doc attachment, and numerous times when doing sod all but sitting on my desk!), and they offered to exchange it for me....... except they havent got any in stock!
So, to the crux of my post.... do I insist that the device is not fit for purpose and demand that my deal and airtime agreement is cancelled (I've not put the supplied SIM card in yet so I'm within my rights to cancel, it seems), and wait it out for a Touch Pro2? Or am I just a swapped handset away from Touch HD nirvana?
Your opinions and advice would be greatly appreciated!
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I would honestly have to say... wait for the Touch Pro2. It isn't that far away and you can just use a cheap cell untill that time (I could! ). If your struggling with the onscreen keyboard then the Touch Pro2 will be perfect for you, but still offering a screen size almost like the HD.
I have 1 year to go on my contract so! . But the problems you talked about are not normal, and if you decide not to wait for the Touch Pro2 I would swap it with a other one or file it for repair if you can't swap.
buy an iphone....the touch hd could have blown the iphone out of the water if ALL the specs & progs had been implemented on release.....
Trouble is HTC are now playing catch up and are releasing kit onto the mass market who in turn are really 'beta' testing hardware & software for HTC.
I used their contact helpline to notify them of a bug/glitch which many other users have as well & I asked for a resolution, bugFIX or update to sort the problem out - I actually got the official reply which basicially said thanks and my raised call was now now closed as I hadn't answered/replied within 15 days.....!!!! I replied the same day fgs !!!
I presume they have massive problems that can't be fixed and do not have any support in place whatsoever, so user & buyer beware - they are buying an unsupported bit of kit - I am now stuck in an 18 month contract with hardware (& software) that is buggy, unsupported, doesn't work properly, and has NO way of being sorted or fixed.........
I've been with wm smartphones from the beginning & HTC when they got 'big'
- now I've got a problem getting out of the contract even though the htc hd IS FAULTY & BUGGY - what a rip off......
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buy an iphone....the touch hd could have blown the iphone out of the water if ALL the specs & progs had been implemented on release.....
Trouble is HTC are now playing catch up and are releasing kit onto the mass market who in turn are really 'beta' testing hardware & software for HTC.
I used their contact helpline to notify them of a bug/glitch which many other users have as well & I asked for a resolution, bugFIX or update to sort the problem out - I actually got the official reply which basicially said thanks and my raised call was now now closed as I hadn't answered/replied within 15 days.....!!!! I replied the same day fgs !!!
I presume they have massive problems that can't be fixed and do not have any support in place whatsoever, so user & buyer beware - they are buying an unsupported bit of kit - I am now stuck in an 18 month contract with hardware (& software) that is buggy, unsupported, doesn't work properly, and has NO way of being sorted or fixed.........
I've been with wm smartphones from the beginning & HTC when they got 'big'
- now I've got a problem getting out of the contract even though the htc hd IS FAULTY & BUGGY - what a rip off......
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I don't understand how you guys buy a phone on a contract and blast the manufacturer (HTC in this case) for having a faulty, buggy phone.
maybe its because you guys don't have the foresight to see that the phones have operator supported apps and crap that isn't part of the original HTC rom.
operators put there own software on to these phones in order to link to their online homepages , etc. My HD came from Telstra and the first thing I did was remove that junk from the phone.
I don't know if you guys want to format your HTC and install fresh software on it, but one things for sure that you can't pass judgment on a product that has useless software put on it by the operator.
This forum is filled with countless happy HD users that continue to mod, upgrade their phones without such problems.
Try giving your phone a second chance by putting software that it was meant to run and not some third party crap.
It does sound like you receivd a bad phone. Every manufacturer has them cross their lineup (Apple too) as no production run is perfect.
Personally I have had my HD for a number of months now and I am not overly gentle with it or to concerned about what software I load. I have never had any of the issues described here (from crashing to paint peeling).
I easily using the compact qwerty keyboard and can type faster on it than on the Kaiser. You will need to decide if you can make the adjustment. I had the same issue in moving from the Wizard to the Elf.
Totally your call. I was used to my hermes keyboard and decoded to go for the HD. At first I was disappointed with a number of things...i.e. no keyboard, no camera flash amongst others. But I knew this before I bought it!!!
It was the same with my Hermes. I got rid of the crap software, rom etc and flashed a better rom, better software and hey presto I had a better phone.
I have also done this with the Balckstone and I'm glad to say I have almost got it to exactly the way I want it!!
There is plenty of 3rd party apps out there to improve your phone, one for example would be finger keyboard 2.1 which almost as good as having a qwerty keyboard.
In the end mate, its your call.
It's your choice but:
I had to send my first one back cos I couldn't get a signal. Orange replaced it no questions and since then I haven't had to reset at all (bout 4 weeks now).
All in all i'm happy with the device and have it running reasonably well with the stock rom with the help of all the people on here. Video, once converted, is superb and high quality for such a device, call quality good, not really tried the camera as I don't take that many pics but office runs fine as I use most of the apps.
Hmmm, sounds like you have a duff phone. Send it back.
I also had a Kaiser which was good but the HD is so much better. I have NEVER had a soft reset unexpectedly.
I do not type huge amounts so the keyboard is not a big need. I do want the slim form factor of the HD.
I had for a few days an early Omnia - this did the mystery soft reset nonsense many times in the short time I had it. I returned it and bought a Tytn II.
HD is really robust, great screen, good battery, and very stable. I recommend you return the bad one you have.
Seriously buddy, I use the Phone Keypad option under SIP and it takes me way back to my old Nokia, I've gone from pissing around with a stupid slide out keyboard on my Kaiser which involved a lot of attention, to walking along touch typing on my Touch HD, the differnece is massive. Slide out keyboards sound like a good idea until you're sitting there interfacing with it like a fecking laptop, that pissed me off.
I must admit I wasn't very impressed with mine when I first got it. I copied some MP3s over to test out music playing and it crashed, and kept crashing. And everything kept crashing: phone app, mail app, music app... Not impressive in the first half hour with nothing else installed!
Anyway since flashing to a different ROM (Dutty 2.6 at the moment) I have had absolutely no problem, so god knows what Orange have done to their ROM.
As for keyboard, try fingerkeyboard and SPB's Keyboard. I can type about as fast as I ever did on my Tytn 2's real keyboard - and without the extra bulk!
(I think I've said before, my Tytn never crashed or needed an unforced reboot once as far as I can recall in 18 months; both my ipods crash regularly, one of them, daily. My conclusion is that the WinMo platform is pretty stable.)
Don't know who your operator is but try and get it changed.
Sorry to hear about your HD problems, like you I was eager to upgrade to what I thinks is a great phone, I got mine as an upgrade but fortunately mine does not have a provider rom in it, its a straight htc phone. had mine 18 days and it stopped charging. Contacted my supplier they where happy to exchange but had no stock, or i could cancell and send phone back.
I contacted HTC, they arranged pickup of phone, did repair, well no they basically replaced everything in the case and sent it back all within 5 days.
Now my phone works great, and the more I read about how adaptable this phone is the more I like it.
as for keybords i have downloaded and tried many, but I now use touchpal compact keyboard, even my large stuby thumbs mange to type quickly.
Send it back get a good one and start again I am sure you will not be dissapointed.
and while I think about it did you now that HTC phones have a manufactures warranty of two years? that means my phone is warranted past my contract period, good news........
Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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Im thinking of getting a Epic 4g when they are released but Im very hesitant on this because what I have read about Samsung devices being "locked down". First off I prefer AOSP over touch wiz or sense, and I hoping to see this possible on theses devices someday. From what I have seen this may come down to a driver issue as they are encrypted by Samsung. I also want to use Wifi Tether too. Id like anyone who knows about theses devices to shed some light on this and help me make a decision. I dont understand why manufactures feel they need to put crap onto of Android when is more usable with out it. I just wish Samsung they just gave us the option of either roms.
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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This contradicts what I read elsewhere for the better Ill see if I can locate where I read this at, If this is the case why is there no custom roms besides Cyanogenmod? Where is a AOSP roms at? Or is the device just that new nothing is out yet? If this is true Ill be getting the Epic over the Evo
Wifi tether comes with the device, and I have to say I haven't had any problems with its use so far
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While trying this and putting my N1 aside, I'm surprised how much I'm missing FroYo
Any devs that would care to comment on the possibility of a FroYo port for the SGS?
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you must be mistaken there mate
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/07/samsung-releases-open-source-code-for-galaxy-s/
this was one of the biggest reasons i chose the galaxy S over the droid X and ordered it yesterday ... it appears to me that the hackmmunity will grow quite big with the galaxy s series
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in contrast to: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/content/612-bad-news-droid-x-lovers-droid-x-lockdown.html
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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What nonsense
I'm a little confused about the situation with ROMs myself, coming from the Windows Mobile world. If the entire source to the build of Android on the Galaxy S is available, surely it's possible to change anything, theoretically? It also seems that the bootloader has no or negligible security as to what it can flash.
On the other hand, I've seen claims that it would be impossible to get Froyo or any future Android updates if Samsung don't release them first (I know they've committed to Froyo). Unless the driver model changes dramatically in Froyo, which I doubt since then new drivers would be required for every phone, why would it be any more difficult to port newer versions of Android to the Galaxy S than any other phone?
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sincere advise dont get samsung GS you will be hugely dissappointed. Cancel order if you can or hopefully you will have 14 days return policy.
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Why do you say this? I purchased mine today and so far am very satisfied with
the phone.
Just testing xda app.
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No, it's just that there are different components and layers which can be considered open or "locked down", and you both use different ones.
The bootloader for the samsung galaxy is not locked.
But there is an argument by the XDA forum member psychoace that some of the drivers for the galaxy S were not open sourced, and that in earlier android devices from samsung this made it very hard to create ROMs which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
As far as I know, this argument from psychoace was never countered, and so I see no reason not to believe it. (I did not look over the sources myself yet).
So can someone port new versions of Android over to the Galaxy S after Samsung has abandoned the device? I really don't know, but I wouldn't count on it, until someone who has experience with making custom ROMs says it is realistic.
The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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The reason I state this is because other then the graphics, video playback, camera there is not much to shout about this device. The lagging is awful, it can't cope with multi tasking compared to say aswell the desire. The issue with the keyboard lagging. Internet crashing for no apparent reason. It seems as the samy gs cant handle the goodies packed into this device. No trackball, flash or led which is very useful.
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as far as i understand it, the lagging issues are just because of the touchwiz and especially the samsung-widgets. removing the widgets and replacing the luncher with luncher-pro/adw will be the first thing i do when i have the device in my hands. on the other side: the hardware of the galaxy s is very good in my opinion!
@bookwormat:
i think you are wrong! i have read in some forums that samsung has released the drivers for 2.1 together with all other code! in fact i am just pulling the code (including the full kernel) from the samsung open source center (http://opensource.samsung.com/). it's huge, 148MB ... when it's finished i will give it a look an confirm what's in there and what not.
You might just want to take into consideration the fact that the Nexus and Desire had some problems as well right after launch.
The nexus took some time ( a couple of months) to set things straight, the Desire- A couple of weeks only. But it's understandable, since it's 95% identical to the nexus, so HTC probably knew what is going to be problematic.
Also, you're taking things to major extremes. You make it sound like the device is catastrophically slow to the level of being unuseable, and crashes every 2 minutes.
Reality, well, is different. The longest lag i had personally is 1.5 seconds when loading asphalt 5. Every other lag when opening an app- less than half a second.
I'd also like you to refrain from stating one personal problem as a bug in the device, you are the only known member in this forum that is having trouble with the keyboard.
A little search in MoDaCo forums reveals that some users are reporting slight problems with the keyboard, but it's limited to Firmware JG01 only.
It's sad that instead of taking a moment to see if you can solve these problems or helping others find a solution, you preffer to bash the device in every occasion.
For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
For me it's really an awesome phone that comes with some minor annoyances that seem entirely caused by the fact that it's brand new. So far it appears that Samsung is putting a lot of effort in maturing the software and I expect the issues to be solved within a matter of weeks. In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Battery life is very good after the first initial cycles.
GPS doesn't work right you may all ***** about that.
I'm sure I would be happy with the new HTC's, or even the iphone 4 (the thought of buying into apple's nasty attitude does make me cringe a bit) but I would still choose the SGS again providing they fix the gps.
Perhaps I'm being over critical but there are serious flaws with this device, there is no denying this.
GPS not working - there doesn't seem to be a solution, can't use copilot or googlemaps.
Lagging/freezing - changed to launcher pro not as bad but still occurs.
I hope the boys at samy are working hard to find fixes for these problems. If there are solutions then please guide me to them.
Don't get me wrong this device has potential and there alot of good features but due to issues mentioned above it just ruins the users experience.
I paid good money for this device not so that I could put it down but to use it. I'm just stating my experience for the benefit of others who maybe considering to buy this device.
If there are solutions wonderful p
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For some reason Riz is really down on his SGS and to such an extent that it seems he's got a grudge against the device. Sell it or trade it in if it really makes you that unhappy.
In all reality it would take about 10 minutes to setup a new phone and have it operate well without even upgrading any firmware. A simple switch to launcherpro followed by a root with update.zip and then installing autokiller (i use strict profile) will solve 99% of the lag problems.
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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I really dont uderstand all this gps not working talk.I use co pilot a lot and its extremely accurate and keeps lock in all weathers.Googe maps works indoors to within a house or so and out side gets me within 15 feet or so.I did have gps issues initially until I flashed firmware and factory reset.My i8910 hd had better gps but that was an exeptional phone for gps
Okay - could you please give me link to guide on rooting.
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Download the update.zip file from this thread.
Or direct link here
Copy the file to the internal storage card of the phone using Kies or whatever method you like.
Disconnect the usb cable
Turn off the phone
Press and hold these buttons at the same time: volume up+home+power, keep them pressed until you see the samsung logo.
Use volume rocker to navigate to update.zip and then press home to select.
Phone will reboot and you are now rooted with superuser.
The whole process takes less than 5 minutes.
I'm not responsible for anything
I like the phone but there are problems
1.keyboard has dup presses... solved with HTC keyboard. Also l key in portrait mode doesn't always work.
2. Gps lock not as good or reliable as my I 8910
3. StallING.. fix fixed it the only program that has a lag to load is sygic.
4. Image resizing not working well in gallery and web.
5. Still doesn't always switch back to 3g from edge. Jg1 is better than previous.
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I've noticed recently that the HD2 forum is becoming inundated with hardware problem threads. While this is obviously one of the functions of the Q&A forum, it does give an unbalanced view of whether or not the HD2 is riddled with problems, and some people are just assuming that the device is problematic. Since no-one is going to post a thread that says "My HD2 has no hardware problems", I decided to make a thread where we could try and get a more balanced view.
Please try and refrain from saying you have hardware issues if it's really a software issue as the whole purpose of this thread is to try and get a real ratio of people with hardware problems against people with no problems. Also, PLEASE don't include accidental damage as hardware failures!
Feel free to discuss, but if you view this thread then please vote one way or another.
Thanks
Edit: At the moment there's been 179 views and only 23 votes. PLEASE do the poll above if you visit the thread. Thanks.
Yes, I sent mine back to HTC, and the problem was the whole antenna was broken,
There is a more indepth poll * HERE *
Not only does it try to find out the relative amount of hardware failures, it also is trying to determine if it is primarily the 1024 or 512 LEOs and if the reset button (presumably a bath issue) has a contributing factor.
Maybe if a 'non-touchscreen' and a 'stuck at bootup' threads were fixed at the top of this board, this would stop folks creating new threads and have just one place to look. Maybe even the initial poster creating a step by step fault diagnosis guide - which could be amended as different symptoms appear.
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Thanks a lot. That's a different poll completely and I'm aware of it, having voted myself. If you disagree with the reason for this poll then simply stay out of it.
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I have no problem with the poll, and have voted.
I do understand the reason for it. If I was going to buy an HD2 for the first time and did my research then I would surely ended up here. With all the faulty this and that and not booting up postings, I would doubt that I would buy the phone. But viewing this site, since I got a brand new T-Mobile Compact III (UK), I knew that loads of faults got reported but that was minute in comparison to the numbers that were busy away flashing their phones.
The only fault I have had with an HTC phone was my Compact IV (Diamond) and that was the USB not being able to communicate, but I suspect that was due to a surge when it was charging from a rental car when the car started up.
No problems with mine owned it since march 2010, I would say it is clearly
my favourite phone.
No Problem with both Phones.
1st HD2: February 2010
2nd HD2: August 2010
also the display bright is on both phones still the same...
I bought my HD2 late 2009, out of one of the first shipments my dealer received.
In the meantime, I flashed a gazillion times, WinMo, Android, WP7... the only thing I changed was the memory card.
Also, since summer 2010, I preferred Photon style usage, means I started to use the hardware buttons extensively. No problems at all.
In the sum, my device is a real workhorse... properly fed thanks to xda.
Not really, I just have a bit of backlight bleeding.
I've had my HD2 since november 09 and im happy to say I haven't had a single issue........ yet lol
Hardware problem
I got my Hd2 in March 2010. I sent it in for repairs two weeks ago. I have just got it back. They replaced the motherboard.
Seems to be working fine now.
I've had my 512MB Leo since May 2010. So far so good. I wish i could say that same about the headset but i guess it could have been worse.
Phone was bought in June of 2010, and I brought it to a repair service here last Friday as the digitizer gave up on me unfortunately. Now I can only hope it will be returned soon
According to the poll I created here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925673) so far there seems to be no correlation on 1024 or 512 Leo, the color of the reset button, and hardware failure.
Maybe all of these are coming up now as most of us got the HD2 back in March, and its coming up to a year for a straight swap (well some operators are doing that)
My phone became faulty back in the summer and i just lived with it for a while, maybe other have being doing the same.
I have a mainboard issue, affects the screen and cuts out completely now and then
mayurolla said:
According to the poll I created here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925673) so far there seems to be no correlation on 1024 or 512 Leo, the color of the reset button, and hardware failure.
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I've been watching that, and all you can tell for sure so far is that 2 people either don't know the difference between red and yellow, or they think their T-Mobile device isn't T-Mobile at all!
Good Idea this Poll.
Certainly for new users/future users who will buy one.
But honestly, I must say the HD2 is as far I know one of the best device. But like every electronic device there is a march of issues. Most of the devices will works well and correctly, some not.
But we can alway's ask us the question; Where started the problem!? A construction/fabric Error on the device ore a wrong manipulation of the user!?
I'm sure if people would read more the manual, ..... well we all knows what than.
i have a dead (bricked?) HD2 in hand right now;
i just can't flash it pass 8%; and it vibrates 4-5 times when it reaches 8% and then it gets stuck there.
i tried both USB flash and SD flash with stock and custom ROMs but none work so far;
need help btw.
thanks
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I've been watching that, and all you can tell for sure so far is that 2 people either don't know the difference between red and yellow, or they think their T-Mobile device isn't T-Mobile at all!
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I made it multiple choice in case people had multiple devices which often is the case.
2 hd2
i have two hd2's both have had the screens replaced and one has had the internal speaker replaced.
i notice these phones seems to have bad life for the screens according to all the people having touch screens die.
and when i call htc they don't really ask any questions about it, I'm assuming they know its a problem.
I don't know if I am just suffering from correlation is not causation but I feel like the memory usage of the Pie rom was what just caused my phone to boot loop and then green screen. I just decided to use a Pie rom last week and despite seeing information in the threads saying there were issues with memory usage and other stuff I thought I would dive in. I loved the rom, it was working perfectly for 2 days and I enjoyed it. Then all of a sudden it just started having wifi disconnect issues, crackling speakers and finally one time when I was changing the volume on the phone it just BAM... restarted and got stuck at the google screen. I wasn't able to get back into recovery so I tried reflashing that using the BLOD method. That worked long enough to get a stock rom on the phone. I thought maybe I could just use my device like that but now it started going into a green screen and it wouldn't even power up. It did lead me to find information about getting my phone replaced. I think thats the only positive to come out of this for me. Obviously YMMV and flash at your own risk... but in 10 years of flashing I have never had an experience like this. Even with WM devices. I have kept an eye on both the Pie threads in Android Development and I see similar comments to my experience... I just suggest caution to people like me... who might only know what you are doing based on guides.
TLDR - I tried both the pie roms that were available. I decided on the PixelPie Rom. My phone started bootlooping withing 2 days. I think its the maxed memory usage.
Update: I just got an email that LG has fixed the board and they are mailing my phone back. I was afraid they were going to turn me down for one reason or another. I should get the phone in 2 days. I did personally speak with an LG rep over the phone about it since they were mailing me the same phone back. She said she would not be able to opt for me to receive a new phone because that is always based off the determination of the person repairing the phone. She said that if I ever have any more issues with the phone it will be covered by warranty since I am in the system. I would just have to mail the phone in and go through the same annoyance.
LG was nice enough to fix my phone... They also repaired the cracked screen free of charge. I am happy... I am sticking with stock. lol
As I know, there's a way to incrase your RAM sending motherboard to China (or just buying new from Ali) to install up to 4Gb. Can't precisely tell the prise, but something around $100. In some cases that can be a nice way to give your phone the second life.
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As I know, there's a way to incrase your RAM sending motherboard to China (or just buying new from Ali) to install up to 4Gb. Can't precisely tell the prise, but something around $100. In some cases that can be a nice way to give your phone the second life.
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Yeah, I paid around $100 for mine like a half year ago. Works very smoothly with Pie.
My phone started having more issues after the warranty time started running out. The screen isn't working right, the phone is freezing up all the time, its also giving me memory errors. luckily this happened within the 90 days of extended warranty they gave me. Will they ever just completely replace my phone? sigh... heh
Well, it finally happened. My first no joke, hard brick. I've had every nexus phone, a few HTCs, some motorolas, no hard bricks. But today was my day. :laugh:
I was originally having issues with the device not booting to system on reboot, sometimes it'd boot to bootloader instead.
I thought I'd just do a full reset, BTS, and see if that helped. Nope. Couldn't find partition, max size allowed reached, fail to write, all that.
Looked around, ADB/fastboot out of date? Ripped out windows drivers, uninstalled, drivers from device, used brand new platform-tools. Nada.
Tried different cables, USB ports, and googled modern tech wizardy. Nothing.
Finally got it to write TWRP to both partitions (somehow), thought I'd reboot to recovery and be in the clear. WRONG.
Device started to reboot, windows showed device as "OUSB Bulk" and then my PH1 went black. Unresponsive. Kaput. Donezo.
Brick.
It was real, it was fun, but can't say it was real fun.
I LOVE this phone. Honestly, it's perfect for me. Size, weight. The lot. But it's dead now...
Well, I leased it through Sprint, and as it happens my lease is now up so I can get something new. A bunch of Samsungs and Apples, what to get?
Tbh, I'd get another for exactly the reasons you give. Especially if you can one for a good price.
I'm currently using an op6t as I need a dual SIM phone while working abroad. As good as it is, I can't wait to get back my ph1. I've not seen anything that is a real upgrade.
We have a special topic for questions about choosing a new phone and you should only ask them in it.
Here it is.
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